Classical Composer Reaction/Analysis to DIRE STRAITS: ROMEO AND JULIET | The Daily Doug (Ep. 730)
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm observing Valentine's Day on the channel by listening to Romeo and Juliet by Dire Straits. While it's not quite an obvious happy ending, we do get much less death and destruction than we get in Shakespeare's original! I enjoyed this one, and I hope you do as well!
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MK: I can't do a love song, like the way it's meant to be.
Me: Mr. Knopfler, I beg to differ.
"All I do is kiss you, through the bars of a rhyme" - brilliant!
Many years ago, I praised the writing in that bridge in another comment section and got told to "Take your meds, old man".
I read somewhere that when Bob Dylan heard that line he knew he wanted to enlist Marks help on his next album which became Infidels
a prison & paradise
Yes, one of my favourite lines of all time!
..and I bet and you exploded into my heart….is my favourite line. Genius
One night back in about 81 my soon to be wife and I were driving from Canberra to home in Sydney. This song was on a mix tape and I had to pull off the road because I was a blubbering mess so absolutely and completely in love with that girl. 43 years later and we're still married and this song still gives me goosebumps.
What can I say but AH!
It really is that kind of song.
Beautiful
This song is autobiographical. Mark Knopflerdated a girl in a punk band named Holly Vincent. They broke up and she said in an interview When asked about him said "I used to have a scene with him" the words he used in The song. Knopfler felt like she used him to become more well known and that's what the song was about at least partially
"How can you look at me as if I was just another one of your deals?" you can feel the intensity of how much that relationship stung.
F'ing brilliant.
Almost all of his songs are
“Why Worry” by Dire Straits is one of the prettiest songs that you will ever hear.
@stevenewcomer8837. You may have already seen this. Saw an interview with Mark Knopfler before his guitar collection auction recently. When asked about “Why Worry”, Mark said that he had written the song in too high a key for his voice - even back then and then dubbed his own tune “Why Bother”! I believe Mark wrote this song with The Everly Brothers (RIP) in mind. Don and Phil did actually sing the song on a show Mark did with Chet Atkins called “Certified Guitar Player” back in the last century. Stay safe and well.
I totally agree. One of my absolute favorite songs.
Used to work in a kitchen at an Australian footy club as a teenager. The publican on Friday nights played this album without fail.
"When we made love, you used to cry." What an amazing line.
One of the greatest attributes of MK and Dire Straits-every song is even better live. Every single one.
You are mostly wrong The songs on Alchemy Live, for instance, are pale shadows of the studio versions. There are a few exceptions. The Mandela Concert versions of this and Brothers, for instance. I saw them live a couple of times. Mark had a disconcerting need to improvise everywhere without the cameras in attendance and ignored signature phrases that fans had travelled miles to hear. Studio versions all day for me.
@thunderroad5127 agree. They belonged to a race of rock musicians (nowadays almost extinct) that enjoyed playing around their songs in a live setting so they became something else. In the case of Knopfler & Co. they succeeded in improving them. For instance, there are some songs out of "Brothers In Arms" or "On Every Street" I never quite enjoyed in studio, and love their live counterparts in "On The Night", like "Your Latest Trick" or "Calling Elvis"
@@sillysausage4549 Thank you for your baseless opinion.
@RideAcrossTheRiver why is it "baseless"? Because it differs to yours? I saw them live. Twice. They were crap both times. So grow the fuck up.
@RideAcrossTheRiver why is "baseless"? Because it differs to yours? Being a fan of their music, and attending two disappointing live shows, is all the license I need to voice my opinion. If you disagree, fine, but your comment was utterly narcissistic, much like the OPs.
You’d LOVE Telegraph Road, it’s long and complex and just poetry
I first heard this song in the movie Can't Hardly Wait back in 98, and I insta fell in love! My girlfriend and I watched it in Cinema in Cincinnati, OH when we were still in high school. There's no mobile phones back then, I had to write the lyrics in a tissue paper when we ate at McDonald's after the movie. I was onloy able to write "romeo-juliet song with guitar". I found which song it was only in 2002. Now, it's in my spotify and in there forever. Thank you Jennifer Love-Hewitt.
Agreed. For me these lyrics are some of the smartest you'll find in rock. Brilliant poetry.
Another super breakdown of a classic tune, Doug. Mark Knopfler is a wonderful songsmith. It would be great if you had a listen to "Private Investigations" on the Dire Straits album 'Love Over Gold' - it's a wonderful moody and dynamic piece which I'm sure you'll find very interesting🙂
or to love over gold (the song). That album is a masterpiece, from start to end
@@ivansanchez143The chords in Love Over Gold are crazy for a rock guitarist. Mark's one of a kind.
I still remember the girl I was with when this came out, something happened and she was in tears and I said we were forever...we weren't but for that moment we were. Can't hear this song without seeing her face. What more can you ask of art?
An absolute all timer. The Indigo Girls version is spectacular also.
Hi Doug, You should immediately follow this with Bruce Springsteen Jungleland. It starts with the same riff but on piano. Bruce's piano man Roy Bittan plays on both tracks. It's Bruces take on West Side Story which is Bernstein's take on Romeo and Juliet. Of course Mark closes the circuit by referring to Theres a place for us. Loved your analysis.
I never listened that closely to Jungleland to get the West Side Story reference, but I definitely agree that Doug should listen to it.
Didn’t think of that!!!
"I can't do everything, but I'd do anything for you." -- One of the best lines ever written.
The live version, from "Alchemy", is much better!
The version of this song in their live performance "On the night" is the absolute best.,
Oh yes! Totally awesome.
My fave is the version at the Mandela concert -- killer sax solo.
That sax solo…
The introductory guitar part is played on a 1930's era National Resonator Guitar. If you've ever had the privilege of holding one of these guitars, they are works of art. It's the same guitar as pictured on the Brothers in Arms album cover. Knopfler has since gone on record as regretting putting the guitar on the album cover, as it resulted in prices for original National Resonators climbing up into 6-figure territory. It's an incredibly distinctive guitar part. Played in Open-D tuning. An absolutely gorgeous song.
Absolutely. Duolian resonator from National ( i owned one in 2014, not from 34’ of course)
Mark played this in Open G with a capo at the 3rd fret putting it into B flat.
One of my all time favorites. Watched lots of reactions to this….You’re the first reactor that caught the West Side Story/There’s a Place for Us reference! Love that part!
The West Side Story reference, both musically & lyrically always jumps out at me &lifts the song too.
Flip to 'Tunnel of Love', the guitar 'solo' by Knopfler at the end is just unparalled in its build break and beauty...
Agreed. Tunnel of love for me is one of their best tracks if not, THE best. The quiet section in the middle that gradually increases in loudness and tempo and then the fade out guitar that could go on for another 10 minutes for me and it would not be enough
Greatest A side in music history.
the pinnacle of their work. doesn't get better than this
"You'll fall for chains of silver. You'll fall for chains of gold. You'll fall for pretty strangers, and the promises they hold". Mark Knopfler the poet!
One of two songs that bring a tear to my eye. This for the loss of my first love and, Mike and the Mechanics’ The Living Years for the death of my father.
making movies is a real classic album. another underrated song from it is 'Skateaway' and 'Les boys
If you listen to the piano during the coda; he starts dropping the intro hook melody for "Love Over Gold" into that repeating 4 to 5 ostinato. They used to use that as a way to segue from one song to the other.
Are you sure?
This song gives me the chills.
This is one of the best drums ever recorded! Playwise and soundwise..
I've been in love with this song for some decades now. Great to know your thoughts on it.
"A Place For Us" was a song in West Side Story
Which is based on Romeo and Juliet by The Bard.
My favourite DS song. There's just something about it that plucks my heartstrings the right way ...
I think this is my favorite Dire Straits song.....endlessly jockeying for position with Sultans of Swing.
This is such a beautiful song. So many songs of theirs are works of art.
I've never heard this song before either, and I've worked their concerts before as security. This is intriguing to me! Thanks for playing this.
This my favorite Dire Straights song. The feeling of pain, loss and resignation in it is palpable.
I love all their music, some more than others but this is my favourite for sure.
Thanks Doug, really enjoy your program.
On Live Alchemy, the song stretches to about 8:30. Most everything on that record takes its time getting there, and for good reason.
Great analysis and dissection!
Always loved this. The dobro guitar sound speaks of the aching heart, and Mark Knopfler's liquid lead phrases at the end are heroic and bluesy at the same time. You just can't escape the romance of this.
Such a great song… lots of emotional layers, smart lyrics, and the playing is stellar as you’d expect with Dire Straits
The Romeo and Juliet story has had so many different variations on it and this is right up there with the best. If he were alive today I think Bill would approve!
Dr. Helvering, greetings from the UK. I wish to commend you not only for the fine choice of material you select for reaction but also for your thoughtful, attentive and intelligent approach to them. Moreover, unlike most Americans (if that is indeed what you are) you are able to talk without saying the word 'like' constantly and unnecessarily. Others might have said, "That was, like, F sharp major which is just above, like, F major, and like totally great and stuff." It is refreshing and a pleasure. Fine work, Sir. I thought a helvering was a fish of some sort but I'm not quite myself today.
One of my all-time favorite Dire Straits songs. I love, love, love, the live version, off of the Alchemy album.
Roy Bitton on keys .. on hiatus from Bruce’s estreeters.. he also did stellar work on meatloaf’s ’bat out of hell’ Bruce calls him the professor.. mark knoffler could play guitar, but could compose a great tune.. great sense of timing
Started listening to dire straits aged 7 and still listening aged 47!!. Great to hear your thoughts. Knopfler great on guitar but also a fabulous songwriter.
A great song from a great album.
Doug did you saw them playing live ? It was one of my first concerts... all these songs were there... Romeo & Juliet, Tunnel of Love, Telegraph Road, Sultans of Swing...
My favorite Dire Straits song, even though it came out 3 years before I was born, it just really spoke to me during my first big break up as a teenager (this and Black by Pearl Jam)
Really nice analysis Doug. MK's lyrical bent has always been so clever, mixing his personal history with contempary and historical themes. From the very first album his trademark humour and powers of observation shine through. There are so many of his songs that would deserve a close look, but it would be great if you found the time to do the title track from 'Love over Gold'. There is so much going on in that instrument wise that sometimes you overlook the sheer beauty of the song itself.
I love his use of the resonator guitar on this. It's so lonely sounding and really fits the feeling of the lyrics.
This entire is really good. Very underrated.
One of my Dire Straits faves. Thank you. May I suggest a track that (I humbly predict) you will love? Van Morrison singing Into The Mystic. It's very layered, with plenty to get your teeth into, including the beautiful piano that you really have to listen out for but which, once you've heard it, you feel is integral and the song would be hugely diminished without it.
Dire Straits is one of my all time favorite bands. Anything by them is worth checking out; can’t go wrong.
"Mark Knopfler has an extraordinary ability to make a Schecter custom Stratocaster hoot and sing like angels on a Saturday night, exhausted from being good all week, and needing a stiff drink, which is not strictly relevant since the record had not yet gotten to that bit, but there will be too much else going on when it does, and furthermore the chronicler does not intend to sit by with a track list and a stopwatch so it seems best to mention it now while things are still moving slowly." -- Douglas Adams ("So Long and Thanks For All the Fish")
"...that bit" is either "Romeo and Juliet", or the guitar solo from "Tunnel of Love", also from the same album.
The first time I heard this was a cover by Indigo Girls. While a bit overwrought, I felt the pain more in Amy Ray's voice than I do in Mark's, which has always struck me as a bit cold and monotone. Regardless, a great song!
"Can't do everything, but I'd do anything for you" is my favorite lyric. He's just a genius both as a lyricists and a guitarist.
Thanks for this Doug. Great choice for today. Great reaction.
Have to admit I miss the old Daily Doug intro.
Making movies was a great album. I think you would also really enjoy "Skateaway" from this album.
Hey for next Valentines, consider reacting to Leonard Cohen, "Dance me to the end of love"
I even remember the video they made for this release. Very stylish.
Dire Straits always reminds me of summer holidays... This album was on in the car when I was a kid and I once lost all other casette tapes except Brothers in Arms during a road trip with a friend. Later on when I went on my first trip with my girlfriend I wanted to at least have some Dire Straits in the car. These guys have been on many trips with me...
I have no idea why, but this song makes me cry hard every time I hear it. I'm not even a fan of Dire Straits. It's just gorgeous ❤
One of my favorite Dire Straits songs! I also enjoy the cover version done by the Indigo Girls.
This came out in 1980 when I was dating a girl that summer. But that fall she went away to college and my job took me away to another place. We met one last time before the final split. This is the theme song of our romance. It was just that the time wasnt right. And this song haunts me to this day.
43 years ago and I can feel your emotion reading that 😢
Yep. This is why we have the good fortune for music like this to be the placeholders of these big events in our lives. Its what makes these songs so precious.
This and The Bug are my favorites from Dire Straits. Great band!!!!!
Song still gives me chills. Happy VD everyone ❤🤘🏻
venereal disease?
@@palloslevente lol. Hopefully not
I love this song. Don't forget those drums. I'd say this song has some of the percussion in popular music.
I used to work with a guy who lived in the town where the lady on whom Juliet was based also lived. He told me she was none too happy about the song. You would love Private Investigations by them
Great pick! I first heard this song as a cover by The Killers and loved it immediately. Whenever you're feeling like gaming music again you should definitely check out Megalovania from Undertale (both the chiptune original and the orchestra version). Also, I would love it if you took a look at a great Canadian group, Walk off the Earth. I would recommend their original Farther We Go (acapella version), but what they're really known for is their amazing covers where they use a wide variety of instruments and every object to create an incredibly rich acoustic sound.
This is one of the first finger-picked guitar pieces I ever learned as a young teenager - I spent hours learning this note perfect! Yes it isn't a complicated piece but it's a beautiful song to listen to and to play. I recorded it on cassette tape and transcribed it note by note as tablature (I didn't have the actual music). More people should sit down and do that (these days) as it allows you to appreciate the subtleties of the composition of the piece. It actually sounded better on classical guitar (rather than 6 string metal stringed acoustic) as I didn't have a resonator guitar! Mark is such a wonderful guitarist and a kind and patient person. "Local Hero: Going Home" is a fabulous guitar instrumental to play as well.
His live performances of this, after Dire Straits dissolved, from his solo career are even better. You can tell the real-life emotions behind the song have started to either register in his own heart or he has realized exactly what the song means to his fans... My personal favorite version is from his 1992 live performance from the BBC televised concert "A Night in London."
I always thought, and still think, MK remembers the “seranade” parts at the beginning and end of the song, with third person telling/ singing those parts.
…the amount of times I had to play this song on the guitar at the request of a girl at a party (Dust in the Wind and others as well of course)… 🤣
i really enjoy watching your videos!! i love pink floyd so it made me happy to watch your pink floyd videos. so i have a few requests for you to react to!!
1- gorillaz - demon days or plastic beach
2- rush - signals
i don’t know if you’ve heard these songs or have reacted to them in the past, but i would really like seeing you react to them!
You gotta listen to Once up on a time in the west-alchemy live version!
This is just like Billy Joel's Scenes from an Italian Restaurant, in the way the protagonist's end up. Brenda and Eddie end up just like this version of Romeo and Juliette!
Mark wrote this about his relationship with Holly Vincent, she broke up with him after she signed a record deal and Mark felt like she used him, she said in an interview "Mark Knopfler?, yeah, I used to have a scene with him"
Glad you enjoyed the writing. Knopfler was a lecturer in English for a few years before his music career took off
One of my favourite DS singles.
I always put Mark Knopfler and Colin Hay in a similar category. In hugely popular bands in the late 70s/early 80s. Long singer/songwriter career which was probably less profitable, but highlighted the immense talent of the lead artists.
Always loved the song and then it went and spawned one of the greatest covers ever recorded by The Indigo Girls.
Ah, Making Movies is my favorite Dire Straits album. This song has always been difficult to hear since the person with whom I associate it is no longer there. But it's a wonderful album and a perfect song for today's Daily Doug.
One of the best contemporary love songs ever written in my humble opinion
Love this album, I was there with the first three albums. I felt things were getting a bit laboured by Love Over Gold but they were still much more subtle hear.
As a guitarist, that was always the focus of my attention but I don't think he gets enough credit as a wonderfully expressive singer.
The video to this song is crazy.
A truly bittersweet symphony.... I was a big fan of Pick Withers' drumming. And Roy Bittan was borrowed from Springsteen's E Street Band....
Oddly enough, Romeo and Juliet is - as I understand it - mostly about getting over an old love and moving on. Happy Valentine's Day!
Roy Bittan from the E Street Band on Keyboards 😀
Doug ,remember that Mark lectured on writing ( taught ) at a university in the UK before he started his music career.
Love these videos - please do Skateaway
This is a short list of songs from VERY VERY skilled bands with different genre
Unexpect - Desert Urbania
Unexpect - Megalomaniac tree
Animals as leaders - CAFO
Animals as leaders - Ka$cade
Planet X - Quantum factor
Planet X - Desert girl
Pomegranate Tiger - Cyclic
Jason Richardson & Luke Holland - Tendinitis
Pomegranate Tiger - Entities (album)
Snarky puppy - Outlier
Cloudkicker - Beacons (album)
Planet X - Ataraxia (just put it at 5:47 lol, its 3 times 15/16 followed by some wizard stuff lol)
Songs about love affairs gone wrong are always the best!
Love the live version with Emmylou Harris brilliant
My favorite version.
Would love to hear your review of "Industrial Disease" as well as "Private Investigations" both by dIRE sTRAITS.
These songs don't get enough exposure in the review format and are both excellent although different from anything else done by the group.
I'm sure you will enjoy them if you don't know them already.
OZZY OSBORNE - SUICIDE SOLUTION (off the live album "TRIBUTE". Features RANDY THE SOLO
Love all of Knopfler's and Dire Straits' stuff. But this song has a special place, because even though Roy Bittan's piano gives Tunnel of Love and Hand in Hand a distinctly Springsteen vibe on this album, R&J is unabashedly Dylanesque in style and lyricism.
The Indigo Girls cover of this song is amazing!
Brilliant! I only only only wish Mark had written that last line to be... Juliet steps out of the shade and says "you and me babe how about it? “❤
I'd love you to look at Killers 'Human'
this channel rocks! Have you ever thought about analyzing musicals? I would love to see your gears turn listening to the genius that is Stephen Sondheim or Claude-Michel Schönberg
I've seen you dip into some gaming music. I would highly suggest giving the Prologue of Shadow of the Colossus a listen, still one of my favorite introductions to a game ever.
I was wondering if you would catch the West Side Story reference. The melody in this song is also quite close to the way it’s sung in West Side Story.
Oh Doug. Their story is absolutely over.
Great song and lyrics Indigo Girls also did a great cover of this track