Darren Till vs Jorge Masvidal

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    Chael Sonnen talks UFC Fight Night 147: Till vs. Masvidal
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  • @KAIROSMMA
    @KAIROSMMA Před 5 lety +417

    Chael is Ben Askren’s more mature older brother.

    • @wiikidblades6505
      @wiikidblades6505 Před 5 lety +8

      I agree but his last Tony tweet was kinda cringy if Tony really losing his mind..

    • @herecomesthecrimsonchin239
      @herecomesthecrimsonchin239 Před 5 lety +4

      Wiikid Blades its hard to lose your mind when your mind is already lost

    • @John_Greek
      @John_Greek Před 5 lety +9

      Chael is his daddy

    • @readcastor2977
      @readcastor2977 Před 5 lety +5

      @@John_Greek Exactly. Chael showed him the ropes he is his dad

    • @AkamapD
      @AkamapD Před 5 lety +5

      Juan Greco Wrong, Ben askream has the dad body so he is chael's dad 🤔

  • @sammydelta5610
    @sammydelta5610 Před 5 lety +33

    Who’s here after Masvidal just KOd Till lol

    • @jasont7814
      @jasont7814 Před 5 lety +3

      Sammy Delta spoiler alert. Wow, I like Jorge. Big win for his career.

    • @SeeDiss300
      @SeeDiss300 Před 5 lety

      HaHa yipp exactly

    • @gidmanone
      @gidmanone Před 5 lety +5

      @@SeeDiss300 Sleeeeeep Caroline oh ohh ohhh))

    • @dayra6425
      @dayra6425 Před 5 lety +3

      Most are here after he served a 3 piece combo with a soda

  • @MrCaptainSalami
    @MrCaptainSalami Před 5 lety +28

    Masvidal clapped back with a power left to solve Till riddle

  • @ryanybaz2230
    @ryanybaz2230 Před 5 lety +94

    Chael “my voice goes looww when I say a point” sonnen

    • @NicolaMaxwell
      @NicolaMaxwell Před 5 lety +7

      And higher when the point is coming... lol

  • @whoisthatsound
    @whoisthatsound Před 5 lety +145

    Masvidal is a real dude 💯👊

    • @MrOasis316
      @MrOasis316 Před 5 lety +5

      whoisthatsound they both are to be fair

    • @whoisthatsound
      @whoisthatsound Před 5 lety

      MrOasis316 👏👏👏🤷‍♂️

    • @567dirt8910
      @567dirt8910 Před 5 lety +4

      I'm sure he is pleased to have your certification...

    • @richardmorris7063
      @richardmorris7063 Před 5 lety +4

      He used to fight in the streets of Miami like kimbo slice.hes a likeable dude.

    • @meankronen8217
      @meankronen8217 Před 5 lety

      Yes he is real, in which he exist. Thank you for noticing.

  • @AzadSinghFitness
    @AzadSinghFitness Před 5 lety +70

    Can't wait for Till vs 'George Masvibidal'

    • @SoKrayzie
      @SoKrayzie Před 5 lety

      Dont play smart ass, Jorge calls himself George

    • @robby9297
      @robby9297 Před 5 lety +1

      bro I knew someone was gonna catch it lol

    • @chalky_white
      @chalky_white Před 5 lety +2

      @Selling Silverman 😂😂😂😂

  • @whyishow
    @whyishow Před 5 lety +76

    Heart says Masvidal, head says Till

    • @schnoz637
      @schnoz637 Před 5 lety +1

      This

    • @tradecraftsecrets
      @tradecraftsecrets Před 5 lety +3

      Ben M listen to your heart

    • @nathanielchristman8252
      @nathanielchristman8252 Před 5 lety +2

      Head says masvidal tbh. It's a 5 rounder if masvidal makes till work he does have the gas advantage and grappling advantage.

    • @luperomero8739
      @luperomero8739 Před 5 lety +3

      @@nathanielchristman8252 masvidal has lost 13 fights...Till has only lost to woodley...My money is on till all day

    • @muhammedaliaydin8977
      @muhammedaliaydin8977 Před 5 lety +2

      @@luperomero8739 Masvidal Fought 45 Fights so way more experienced than Till.
      In Your Logic Nate Diaz is shit as Well because he lost 13 Fights, Fights Matt doesnt work.

  • @alpach9923
    @alpach9923 Před 5 lety +97

    People are sleeping on Masvidal foreal
    Edit: told yall

    • @johnnymac2952
      @johnnymac2952 Před 5 lety +2

      Al Pach wonderboy made him look like an amateur

    • @gamessportsandmore3371
      @gamessportsandmore3371 Před 5 lety

      @Fony Terguson people are stupid.

    • @sammydelta5610
      @sammydelta5610 Před 5 lety

      I had masvidal too

    • @bladebrown8261
      @bladebrown8261 Před 5 lety

      JohnnyMac Wonderboy fought how your suppose to fight Masidval, Till engaged in a brawl which is what Masvidal wants , Till should of played it safe

  • @alex-poeppel
    @alex-poeppel Před 5 lety +178

    I dont want either man to lose but i cant wait for this fight

  • @potsomelawyer3034
    @potsomelawyer3034 Před 5 lety +197

    Chael runs UFC someday.. it’s that simple..

    • @nathansmith4529
      @nathansmith4529 Před 5 lety +33

      If not then it will be the greatest mistake in UFC history.

    • @lroncupboard5187
      @lroncupboard5187 Před 5 lety +6

      He would be a great Pro Wrestling booker/promoter

    • @johnnymac2952
      @johnnymac2952 Před 5 lety +6

      Potsome Lawyer i think your joking but dana white said 4 years ago that cheal might be ufc president some day

    • @potsomelawyer3034
      @potsomelawyer3034 Před 5 lety +1

      JohnnyMac Nope. He is the man to get the right attention to the sport . Glad Dana alluded to the idea

    • @nycitylifeandhistory
      @nycitylifeandhistory Před 5 lety

      will they put a convicted felon in charge

  • @kadesayre1562
    @kadesayre1562 Před 5 lety +1

    Stoked to watch you scrap again Chael. Thanks for all the quality content.

  • @stevenakers4918
    @stevenakers4918 Před 5 lety +1

    Chael your outlook on fights is always spot on. Keep up the good work. I enjoy your commentary. You bring a great approach to the sport.

  • @KingDomsKingdom85
    @KingDomsKingdom85 Před 5 lety +12

    You know it's a good Chael video when he's regularly offering us things including intangibles. The hero we need but most certainly don't deserve.

  • @cgtysoninnocent5472
    @cgtysoninnocent5472 Před 5 lety +131

    The question remains! Just how good is the first comment of this video? And where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this?

    • @anthonydidonato5655
      @anthonydidonato5655 Před 5 lety +2

      Kevin Lee is lightweight I think

    • @anthonydidonato5655
      @anthonydidonato5655 Před 5 lety +1

      He is lightweight he fights at 155. This fight is welterweight my dude.

    • @MJ-kn7cc
      @MJ-kn7cc Před 5 lety +3

      I offer you this, Had juicy hired Lee and Rumble he would have gotten away with it

    • @balddonaldcerrone7930
      @balddonaldcerrone7930 Před 5 lety +3

      Anthony DiDonato oh look there it goes, over your head

    • @tylerdurden9970
      @tylerdurden9970 Před 5 lety

      Tony Ferguson the type of guy who just beats his wife up

  • @FILMkijkertje
    @FILMkijkertje Před 5 lety

    Deliberately listened to this one after the fight .... And damned Chael you nailed it on this one

  • @highburyful
    @highburyful Před 5 lety +3

    Very clear and concise breakdown of fighting elements, pressure etc, absolutely on the money. Post fight proved spot on. Impressive Mr Sonnen

  • @lwwarren9485
    @lwwarren9485 Před 5 lety +26

    I’ve been watch Jorge since he fought Ray!😂

  • @martinjames6148
    @martinjames6148 Před 5 lety

    Never stop Chael!!!

  • @barberlifts
    @barberlifts Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome breakdown as usual chael

  • @DeadTrigger87
    @DeadTrigger87 Před 5 lety +25

    Hands down that people are overlooking Masvidal. Again if he does bring the fight to the mat, Till won't last long in my eyes.

  • @kwmong21
    @kwmong21 Před 5 lety +2

    Jorge vs Ray 1&2
    Masvidal has been defying Odds for the longest

  • @johnrico6117
    @johnrico6117 Před 5 lety +1

    You just can't explain it Better than that. Great Job Chael.

  • @thenewsocietyoftoday4488
    @thenewsocietyoftoday4488 Před 5 lety +9

    EVERYBODY WAS DOUBTING GAMEBREAD TYRON DIDNT EVEN KNOCKOUT TILL COLD LIKE THAT 🔥🔥💪💪GAMBREAD VS USMAN

  • @kennyitsme
    @kennyitsme Před 5 lety

    love listening to chael before this fights.

  • @antonioaguiniga7507
    @antonioaguiniga7507 Před 5 lety +1

    Really like how chael breaks it down point a view of a real fighter

  • @Renaissauced
    @Renaissauced Před 5 lety +1

    GREAT point about pressure. I remember in my first couple fights growing up I would feel like my lungs were so heavy, it even fatigues your arms a little bit. Only way to get over it is more experience!

  • @artman6976
    @artman6976 Před 5 lety +1

    Hey Chael. Do you think that the same type of pressure applies to Boxing? I hear a lot of boxers talk about having an advantage fighting in front of a home crowd. But its still one on one combat like MMA. What's your opinion on this?

  • @showerfeels3974
    @showerfeels3974 Před 5 lety +33

    Darren Till may be a lethal southpaw who's a technical striker, and poses problems for Masvidal as he hasn't faced a southpaw before. Till is also bigger and Jorge is a lightweight, so Tills footwork and Muay Thai combined with his size may pose problems. But the most important question is....... where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this?

    • @kevinp665
      @kevinp665 Před 5 lety +1

      Lmao who cares about kevin lee, irrelevant

    • @gonufc
      @gonufc Před 5 lety +4

      @@kevinp665 But it begs the question- how good is Kevin Lee?

    • @MotleyStu-gv2tb
      @MotleyStu-gv2tb Před 5 lety +8

      @@kevinp665 but the question is just how much do you watch Chael Sonnen? Clearly not enough.

    • @wyattgburlock
      @wyattgburlock Před 5 lety +7

      Masvidal has fought southpaws before lol

    • @NicolaMaxwell
      @NicolaMaxwell Před 5 lety

      Kevin Lee? I'm baffled... why's he in the mix lol...

  • @josephgamez1952
    @josephgamez1952 Před 5 lety

    You the man chael

  • @billliktor
    @billliktor Před 5 lety +22

    Chael is always offering things

  • @jaguaron007
    @jaguaron007 Před 5 lety

    Chael can you do analysis the big ten and the NCAA wrestling tournament?

  • @yeslad5879
    @yeslad5879 Před 5 lety +9

    oh uncle chael i knew you were smart enough to not overlook masvidal.

  • @ProductProbes
    @ProductProbes Před 5 lety +1

    You called it Chael.... you tha man

  • @worldsgreatestdetective926
    @worldsgreatestdetective926 Před 5 lety +13

    Masvidal used to run with Kimbo Slice's backyard brawling crew.

    • @stephenhartley2853
      @stephenhartley2853 Před 5 lety +1

      backyard bum fights are not real fights

    • @hewhoisn8214
      @hewhoisn8214 Před 5 lety +3

      He was like 16 throwing down with grown men say it’s not a real fight if you want but getting punched in the face in the backyard hurt just as much as getting punched in the face in a ring I promise

    • @worldsgreatestdetective926
      @worldsgreatestdetective926 Před 5 lety +1

      @Scottie M it wasnt a flex of any kind im just saying what he used to do back in the day. It shows how enthusiastic and gifted he is at fighting, if you watch him street fight you can see his using technique and throwing knees and shit, you can see his passion for it. Take my comment how you will I guess i just thought it was cool to know for someone who didnt.

    • @worldsgreatestdetective926
      @worldsgreatestdetective926 Před 5 lety

      @Scottie M how the fuck do you take that as a flex? Are you a Darren Till fan or some shit? The only thing weird is how you took a a pretty simple statement. lol I aint your buddy, guy. And you aint my guy, buddy.

    • @worldsgreatestdetective926
      @worldsgreatestdetective926 Před 5 lety

      @@stephenhartley2853 have you seen those stree fights? And like thenother guy said he was fighting guys way older then him. Does it make him the greatest? No. Again im just pointing out what he used to do, and besides that hes an amazing fighter whos proven himself in the ufc. If this was his debut and i said some shit like that and you replied with what you said then i would get it. But honestly....shut the fuck up bro

  • @stevendemoniac
    @stevendemoniac Před 5 lety +3

    Masvidal needs to be given more respect for all he had done.
    He truly wants to fight, and it shows.

  • @jingweileong9803
    @jingweileong9803 Před 5 lety +2

    Uncle Chael rocking that popped button

  • @sleazysid253
    @sleazysid253 Před 5 lety +4

    Can't tell what has higher peaks. Chael's voice when he's making a point, or the biggest arms in West Lynn, Oregon.

    • @sleazysid253
      @sleazysid253 Před 5 lety

      @Camarokingsftw Your support is appreciated.

  • @SeeDiss300
    @SeeDiss300 Před 5 lety

    U are a sharp man chael sonen

  • @danielquinn312
    @danielquinn312 Před 5 lety

    Nice talk about stress and pressure, there is the saying "I feel like a weight was lifted off of me".

  • @bananeneter999
    @bananeneter999 Před 5 lety +8

    Chael I love you. You´re the uncle I never had.

  • @knowsmebyname
    @knowsmebyname Před 5 lety

    Chael Sonnen is good at this shit. love to listen.

  • @vinnievega9843
    @vinnievega9843 Před 5 lety +22

    Masvidal is a very live underdog.
    I will be backing him to beat Till.
    I like Till he's my countryman but l like money more.

    • @rossr1804
      @rossr1804 Před 5 lety +2

      RIP your money, Jorge vs Till is a tough fight and its a pickem but I believe Till will win, he has activity, size,power on his side, and the fact he just lost to Woodley, he's hungry to prove he still means business

    • @vinnievega9843
      @vinnievega9843 Před 5 lety +1

      @@rossr1804 sort of hope your right.

    • @vinnievega9843
      @vinnievega9843 Před 5 lety +4

      @@rossr1804 sorry mate I'm not wrong that often.

    • @rossr1804
      @rossr1804 Před 5 lety +3

      @Sharp, haha. Nice KO by Jorge and nice win mate

    • @Eaglesfan4life352
      @Eaglesfan4life352 Před 5 lety +1

      put 25 on masvidal I'm so fuckin happy@Selling Silverman

  • @keenkeen92
    @keenkeen92 Před 5 lety

    Chael has a gift. And it isn’t losing in big fights. It’s talking. All seriousness.

  • @alexcorral4640
    @alexcorral4640 Před 5 lety +4

    Nobody over looked Lawler and home cage advantage has always been real as judges have historically always favored the native fighter.

  • @e.a.c.437
    @e.a.c.437 Před 5 lety

    This guy is a fucking veteran to recognize this shit... Mad props

  • @Borkybaby
    @Borkybaby Před 5 lety +15

    Askren will also ride till... and chant USA on his back! Hahaha

  • @ggggrggggr9353
    @ggggrggggr9353 Před 5 lety

    I love Chael Sonnen

  • @phillipmoses2513
    @phillipmoses2513 Před 5 lety +1

    Pressure is definitely something that impacts you like Chael mentioned. In training, you could hit all the benchmarks and think you're ready to perform like in training. But at the start line, or the moment the clock ticks, the race in your heart and in your breathing begins. It could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your level of experience in lowering your heart rate, and slowing your breath, but if you don't get that under control you will tire faster. Your body needs oxygen to move, less oxygen you have, the stiffer you get, the less movement you'll have, and well, you know the rest.

  • @dksix1905
    @dksix1905 Před 5 lety

    Watching this for the second time sounds like Cheal nailed this one.

  • @NicolaMaxwell
    @NicolaMaxwell Před 5 lety

    Wisdom from the man 👏👏👏

  • @teamgitusome
    @teamgitusome Před 5 lety +5

    6:15 speaking to why khabib is actually so good

  • @winslowlord3294
    @winslowlord3294 Před 5 lety

    When you're right, you're right. Very impressive.

  • @geschicktehande2719
    @geschicktehande2719 Před 5 lety

    Now there's some brilliant hindsight insight for you!

  • @atumeyssmaniii1758
    @atumeyssmaniii1758 Před 5 lety

    Chael is an analytical genius.

  • @KiwiAntz56
    @KiwiAntz56 Před 5 lety +10

    Darren really loves bantering with Ben.

    • @edmontoncleaningmonsters7799
      @edmontoncleaningmonsters7799 Před 5 lety +1

      They building the storyline

    • @KiwiAntz56
      @KiwiAntz56 Před 5 lety

      EDMONTON CLEANING MONSTERS yeah deff, I really don’t believe any of them take it personal, both love the banter and take it

  • @loganodinson4661
    @loganodinson4661 Před 5 lety +4

    Home field advantage has to do with the judges not the fighters.

  • @jatrodai8921
    @jatrodai8921 Před 5 lety +5

    I really like Tills chances but way to many people are sleeping on Masvidal

  • @KAIROSMMA
    @KAIROSMMA Před 5 lety +20

    I think if I heard a Brazilian crowd of 10,000 plus chant ”uh Vai morrer” (you're going to die) it might get to me just a little....

    • @littleuzi2775
      @littleuzi2775 Před 5 lety +1

      KAIROS MMA that would be amazing. I would love that.

    • @nelsonruth9432
      @nelsonruth9432 Před 5 lety +10

      Brazilian crowds are so cringey

    • @gusbus643
      @gusbus643 Před 5 lety +1

      Only if you speak Portuguese

  • @MandoLarian007
    @MandoLarian007 Před 5 lety

    Only Chael can have a monologue and make it seem like he's discussing with a co-anchor

  • @xcoolthefoolx
    @xcoolthefoolx Před 5 lety +2

    Chael knows he should be taking over London with Ben! You can see it on his face xD

  • @Michael94
    @Michael94 Před 5 lety

    On game day I felt like I couldn’t get tired .. idk what you’re talking bout chael lol

  • @jamieosullivan955
    @jamieosullivan955 Před 5 lety

    You was spot on

  • @nehmanator333
    @nehmanator333 Před 5 lety

    Chael calling out Till's home fight stresses before the fight results. nice call

  • @aidanfilms702
    @aidanfilms702 Před 5 lety +1

    Masvidal with that left hand knocking Till back to Brazil to take care of his child.

  • @mysticnovelbro
    @mysticnovelbro Před 5 lety

    It honestly doesn't matter in mma, the home advantage only works in team sports, even then, it accounts for less than 25% of the winning segments.
    It helps, but that's it. A helping hand

  • @scottbanks6415
    @scottbanks6415 Před 5 lety

    Still can't get over the fact I couldn't put my finger on who Benny Askren reminded me of from my childhood. After watching Benny in London or wherever going back and forth with the crowd and hes trying to tell them how to roast, and then you finally hear it. "HeYyyy yOUuuU gGuuYys!" I almost died. Also the fact Ben laughed and said good one....Goonies reference it struck a cord you know he wax teased about that by his friends in the past.....and it was then Sloth realized he was BOOM Roasted! To think he watched over a young Thanos in the 80s....

  • @gravelgirls
    @gravelgirls Před 5 lety +2

    Masvidal's stock just set up his grandkids' future.

  • @dreddykrugernew
    @dreddykrugernew Před 5 lety +8

    Ben Askren looks like Mrs Doubtfire

  • @Bobby_Duncan
    @Bobby_Duncan Před 5 lety

    Cowboy is like the main boss u have to beat to fight in the main event

  • @joshferrie2517
    @joshferrie2517 Před 5 lety

    Chael “he hit me so hard” sonnen

  • @jlindell6532
    @jlindell6532 Před 5 lety

    Chael best talker in UFC

  • @bronzypearl
    @bronzypearl Před 5 lety

    So on it!

  • @IronReef77
    @IronReef77 Před 5 lety +4

    They say every now and then that even God will kneel down and pray...the question is does Chael ever answer?

  • @flaco5088
    @flaco5088 Před 5 lety

    ok chael is a fucking genius.

  • @anthonydidonato5655
    @anthonydidonato5655 Před 5 lety +9

    Agreed. Masvidal and Till both destroyed Cowboy. This is gonna be a slugfest.

  • @zachcoleman3357
    @zachcoleman3357 Před 5 lety

    I'd really like to see some dual commentary with Jimmy Smith

  • @Ben77769
    @Ben77769 Před 5 lety

    Home cage advantage is real when it comes to judges scorecard

  • @itswakke
    @itswakke Před 5 lety +5

    It’s pronounced (HORE-HEY) for god sakes. He’s Cuban.

    • @bitchniggakid2896
      @bitchniggakid2896 Před 5 lety +3

      Papa Chael said his name is George, so now his name is George

  • @RudeBoySka216
    @RudeBoySka216 Před 5 lety

    I used to hate Chael Sonnen in the times when he fought Silva. Years later after seeing him on JRE and other interviews I realized he’s actually knowledgeable and cool & not a dick like he perceived himself originally. Now on his podcast him talking about different fighters I think is perfect cause he’s non bias and knows what he’s talking about

  • @Samuel-lb2st
    @Samuel-lb2st Před 5 lety +8

    Chael's the kind of guy who'd name his kid Robbie Lawker Jr as a sign of respect.

  • @cheese56218
    @cheese56218 Před 5 lety +25

    Till will win by controversial split decision

    • @backbone93
      @backbone93 Před 5 lety +1

      It will be a decision but as jorge is not going to wrestle, it wont be controversial

    • @cheese56218
      @cheese56218 Před 5 lety +2

      @@backbone93I think Jorge is going to box till up.

    • @therobulus
      @therobulus Před 5 lety

      @@cheese56218 lol

    • @backbone93
      @backbone93 Před 5 lety +1

      @@cheese56218 i would love to see that, but till has good ellbows, nice left and good body kicks, if masvidal is still gamebred he will put on a good fight, if he is old he will get KOed. We will see
      But cant really see him winning to be honest.
      But askren will maul till and there is nothing till can do about it

    • @richardmorris7063
      @richardmorris7063 Před 5 lety

      The crowd is going to get crazy every time till throws a punch.i hope this doesn't influence the scorecard.

  • @taylor_o
    @taylor_o Před 5 lety

    "size being one of them" -- Chael "size disadvantage" sonnen

  • @theclips2093
    @theclips2093 Před 5 lety

    judges can be home town advantage

  • @ryan4760
    @ryan4760 Před 5 lety

    The Undefeated Champ.

  • @austinhuber3131
    @austinhuber3131 Před 5 lety

    The home advantage manifests with the judges. Especially in the UK.

  • @saiyanw7144
    @saiyanw7144 Před 5 lety

    Jorge gave Darren that goodnight sleep

  • @go4truth533
    @go4truth533 Před 5 lety

    Darren " i set out to be the Greatest, i still going to be the Greatest" Till

  • @brandoloudly9457
    @brandoloudly9457 Před 5 lety

    might be the adrenaline but pressure works too

  • @chestersykes5124
    @chestersykes5124 Před 5 lety

    I'd like to see Chael fight Askren next at UFC Stupidville.

  • @bladebrown8261
    @bladebrown8261 Před 5 lety +3

    Now the real question just how good is Artem Lobov

  • @herecomesthecrimsonchin239

    pretty much everyone thought darren till was going to beat cowboy the thompson fight was the one that surprised people

  • @macwagg
    @macwagg Před 5 lety

    This has fight of the night written all over it... They are gonna stand and throw hands till someone drops is my prediction... Also think jorge is getting little overlooked... He likes to brawl check out his old backyard fights...badass!!! No quit in him

  • @christ-claudemowandza-ndin4973

    Chael: HHHHHorhhhhe H's friend, please

  • @timslee0618
    @timslee0618 Před 5 lety

    Where is the 3 piece and a soda video ?

  • @zach008vs
    @zach008vs Před 5 lety +1

    Uncle Chael

  • @jordanyounger5939
    @jordanyounger5939 Před 5 lety

    Till looks like a large middleweight I'd love to see him make the move up sometime see his performance when he doesnt have to cut all that weight

  • @rusty5019
    @rusty5019 Před 5 lety

    Pressure is what made Tito tap

  • @DonjulzAgy
    @DonjulzAgy Před 5 lety

    If Chael Isn't The Einstein Of MMA I Don't Know Whos The Runner Up!!

  • @DDooMRooMM
    @DDooMRooMM Před 5 lety

    Lol "George." ...oh Chael.

  • @cheapshic
    @cheapshic Před 5 lety

    chael calling ppl out for incorrect bold predictions is more than ironic