Melee Hunter Phase 3 Full Guide - BiS - Gear - Rotation - Runes - Consume - Talents - Spec - Pet

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  • / naturetvz • Rock Apes #8 World Sun...
    Ranged guide! • Hunter phase 3 Ranged ...
    Thought i cought this in editing: update! the Two fist wpns are BiS now even for orc, after update you can swap the fast offhand fist wpn for a 2.6 AS on ZG isle
    Timestamps:
    Professions - 0:26
    Hitcap - 1:44
    Gear - 2:30
    Enchants - 8:06
    Talents MM - 9:44
    Talents BM - 13:30
    Runes - 16:21
    Rotation - 18:49
    Pets - 20:06
    Consumables + WB - 21:33
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Komentáře • 74

  • @matthewdunann
    @matthewdunann Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for this! I am gonna be rocking your MM melee build , seeing that no one else wants to go ranged and brig true shot aura. Appreciate all the info.

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem +1

      yeah i rocked this the other day and was able to parse 99 still (granted i went all out w/ prep and consumes) but it still pumps hard.

    • @tiltnmafks
      @tiltnmafks Před měsícem

      I brought it this week and my war/sham went NUKE

  • @Riyaniwow
    @Riyaniwow Před měsícem +1

    Delivering as always!

  • @RN-nl1iy
    @RN-nl1iy Před měsícem +1

    Do you think it is important to equip the thrash blade in the main hand as our prebis? for example there is an axe with slightly higher dps from brd but it is a mainhand weapon, putting the thresh blade in the off hand. does the thrash blade rely a lot on the extra swings from raptor strike and such?

    • @TRDesings
      @TRDesings Před měsícem

      I was asking myself the same thing, since raptor strike should trigger trash blade (due to dual wield rune). I'm new to wow and have trouble figuring this out, if anyone more experienced can give an opinion here it would be much appreciated!

  • @MrOrmanley
    @MrOrmanley Před měsícem

    Do the weapon bis pieces include the 2.6 speed version of the fist offhand option? does the sword proc outdo the set proc?
    Also, does weapon speed in offhand even matter? Raptor is normalised 2.4/2.4 speed, right?
    Flanking only hits with mh, and wf procs only on mh too, right?
    Does anything stop us using a dagger?
    For pets, does the comparison factor in Stormstrike and oh fist weapon debuffs?

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      after update combo of fist wpns is better.
      Flanking strike is 100% wpn dmg (main hand only) along w/ windfury being MH only, so you can put a wpn enchant like shadow oil or dense sharpening stone on OH
      Raptor strike is normalized all wpns are 2.4 yes, but daggers are normalized faster (i think it's 1.8 AS) so they are not typically good for us, since our RS will hit like doo doo w/ them.
      pets, no that was not factored in for this content.

  • @niishyb
    @niishyb Před měsícem +2

    Will you be dropping a ranged hunter video any time soon? :)

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem +1

      czcams.com/video/qzCFn7cLZNI/video.html got it out!

  • @Ynwa1892Udry
    @Ynwa1892Udry Před měsícem

    Yo, the darkmoon:sandstorm card will probably be worth getting even for some time in P4 and even later right? It giving around 30-60 DPS each boss will still work against higher mobs or does the DPS decrease on lvl 60? Considering picking it up on my feral to have an AOE ability and the DPS increase.

  • @AIPALADINI
    @AIPALADINI Před měsícem

    When ya gonna make a guide on how to improve parsing as hunter? :D

  • @stevelycan2962
    @stevelycan2962 Před měsícem

    Do we swap to Trap Launcher for the Atal'ai Defender fight?
    Or just Feign Death/ Trap cast macro to CC them?

    • @IceDeadBamby
      @IceDeadBamby Před měsícem

      FD is 30sec CD, you wont be able to perma CC one, so if you're in a chill raid, swap to Trap Launcher

  • @sebastianbergstl4423
    @sebastianbergstl4423 Před měsícem +1

    hmm. is dragons cry bis, after the option to swap the 1,5 speed Strikers fisty one to a 2,6 one on zandalari island? considering the setbonus as well, i find that odd. id love it if it was, as i have dragons already - but i doubt it?

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      dual weapons are bis after update.

    • @sebastianbergstl4423
      @sebastianbergstl4423 Před měsícem

      @@Naturetvz yea. and dragons cry is pretty meh tbh. the dragon ONLY attacks i the wearer has aggro, so pointless in pve for a hunter, solo and raiding. the proc, is, worthless.

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      @@sebastianbergstl4423 ah didn't know that, that's a odd mehcanic LOL
      - does it work if you take aoe dmg, or just won't attack unless you have aggro?

    • @sebastianbergstl4423
      @sebastianbergstl4423 Před měsícem

      @@Naturetvz aoe dmg does activate it, but thats just a few fights and not constant, so unless u proc it as the aoe hits, its just there for 15 sec, and dies. so typically, u get abt 1-2 hits from it before its gone.
      really strange designfor a proc, must b they made a mistake designing it tbh. it should just support yr attacks, like it more or less promises...or, its designed only for tanks.

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      @@sebastianbergstl4423 ahhh yeah, that's not very good lol

  • @krispe2512
    @krispe2512 Před měsícem +2

    I cant wait to see ranged guide. The quality of these videos is S tier top quality!!!!!

  • @peterlouismller2393
    @peterlouismller2393 Před měsícem +1

    New slow off hand better than sword now?
    Also is it worth Bow swapping old STV bow and new STV bow? I checked, and both buffs can be active at the same time, tho it does take a GCD to swap, and i forgot to check if it resets swing timer

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      Great question!!! new bis is the fist wpns - added in the description after release of the video thought I edited the change prior to release but it is what it is! lol
      also massive question, first i've heard or seen on swapping the two bows. we'll test and figure it out!
      if you get info feel free to dm naeture#1776 on discord.

    • @peterlouismller2393
      @peterlouismller2393 Před měsícem

      @@Naturetvz i can test it on dummy in tanaris. i got screenshots of me with the stats changes but not sure if the Swingtimer resets and if its worth it if thats the case

  • @matthewdunann
    @matthewdunann Před měsícem

    For melee hunter , if we have the 3 piece set bonus, wouldn’t the rapid fire head slot rune be better than catlike reflexes ? Ty for your time

    • @Burlehmangus
      @Burlehmangus Před měsícem

      honestly, only for a the first couple weeks with the nerfs to the raid, and getting some gear, fights will become sub 3 minutes (my dad guilds already at like 3 min 10 sec for longest fight). once you hit 3m15s or shorter fights, it becomes useless.

  • @trevsguitarstash4967
    @trevsguitarstash4967 Před měsícem +1

    Is darkmoon sandstorm actually bis for bm melee? All the bis addons are showing just using the owl/150 ap trinket/plagues
    Is sandstorm just situational for aoe moments or actually single target bis too after hotfix?

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      Great question!!! well it depends on kill times under 60 seconds yes the 150 AP trinket is bis, over 60 seconds is Sandstorm atm.
      The problem you're probably running into is sims will automatically default to 60 seconds.
      what's not factored in for sims is trinket swapping so the true min max is to pop the 150AP on pull then swap to a static trinket such as sandstorm.
      this is single target ofc, for multitarget sandstorm becomes more valuable
      - and further Sandstorm is based on perfect conditions, it's a odd trinket as it oculd be utilized better depending on the hitbox of the boss/AOE affect etc

    • @trevsguitarstash4967
      @trevsguitarstash4967 Před měsícem

      @Naturetvz neat! I've been feigned death swapping after using conductive belt 150 ap trinket , epic gloves helm e.t.c. for first 20 seconds or 30 if belt lands head, then swapping to static ap gear. Between that and having 15x all consumables, my inventory is full, but the dps is worth it to be competitive. Sometimes, i just switch my quiver for an actual bag since im never stopping to auto shot more than a multishot and 1 shot anyways and a running serpent.
      May have to get sandstorm too..sadly its a 50+ dollar trinket with eight of dunes going for 800g on living flame horde since fair returned to thunderbluff.. wish i got it earlier.
      Atleast at lvl 60 we can also get the improved feign death to reduce chance of failure in gear swapping

  • @Chrenno
    @Chrenno Před měsícem

    Is the soft hitcap for all melee classes and range hunter 6% at lvl 50? Skull lvl bosses in ST are they 53 or how does this work at low lvl raids ? Best hunter guide out there btw !!

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      good question, basically yes in SOD boss' are factored at 2 lvls above, making them a yellow mob to us instead of a orange mob, i believe the idea here from the devs was to make it so wpn skill plays less of a factor that way ppl could play whatever race they want instead of feeling boxed into orc or human as melee.
      the +2 lvls has been consistent in all raids in sod, BFD, Gnomer, ST.

    • @Chrenno
      @Chrenno Před měsícem

      @@Naturetvz thanks a lot!

  • @datafreak911
    @datafreak911 Před měsícem

    what about edgemaster's handguards ?

  • @shawnferraro4527
    @shawnferraro4527 Před měsícem

    if i have axe of the atalai executioner and dragons cry, which do i want in the mainhand and which in the offhand?

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      MH is atalai - OH is dragons cry, but right after the video they did a update and dual fists wpns edge those two out, so not a bad idea to go for dual fist wpns even if orc atm.

  • @descente101
    @descente101 Před měsícem +4

    the new slower oh fist weapon is mint

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      this is True!
      ty for the update sir, put in description

    • @descente101
      @descente101 Před měsícem

      @@Naturetvz yeah im pretty cut by this lol we got both in week 2 and i won both as it was our first set and as a set they simmed highest for me being the only set vs the axes/dragon sword, after looking at it being a 80dps upgrade for me vs the 400dps upgrade for the warrior i gave it away lol 2 days later the patch and bame rip lol

  • @noble61483
    @noble61483 Před měsícem

    How big of a dps loss is it to use a 2handed weapon like khan's as a melee hunter?

  • @remyd8767
    @remyd8767 Před měsícem

    Doesn't the 3 piece from st a ranged set. The bonus is for ranged right

    • @bobbilling1095
      @bobbilling1095 Před měsícem

      3 piece bonus makes rapid fire give a melee attack speed boost

  • @eldenanchor8179
    @eldenanchor8179 Před měsícem

    What you're saying about Trueshot Aura can be a bit misleading, unless I am misunderstanding. Hunters only get additional rAP, not additional AP. Everyone in the group gets 150 AP. And the hunter gets and additional 150 rAP.

    • @justinhinsberger3672
      @justinhinsberger3672 Před měsícem

      Pet scales on ranged AP, so it’s still a double dip super strong

    • @sebastianbergstl4423
      @sebastianbergstl4423 Před měsícem

      he said 80-140 dps, not ap. the benefit of 150 ap is the dps. ranged hunter gets 300 yea, but he is ranged and doesnt scale so welll with ap so the benefit is less, proportionally

    • @eldenanchor8179
      @eldenanchor8179 Před měsícem

      10:09

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      @@eldenanchor8179 i think the confusion is coming in because Trueshot aura was buffed two-fold, not only does it do double AP from original classic so for example rank 2 which is what we use at lvl 50 used to do 75 AP, now it does 150 AP - in addition it's x2 for ranged hunters, so it's actually 300 AP total for ranged hunter.
      so to summarize my comment was meant to be about how it's x2 from original classic - however your comment is how it's x2 for ranged hunter in SOD
      this is just semantics.

    • @eldenanchor8179
      @eldenanchor8179 Před měsícem

      @@Naturetvz Oh, I see.

  • @darklurch
    @darklurch Před měsícem +2

    Lurchy approves

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      lol wadup my hunter turned boomy friend :)

  • @stagnacja1
    @stagnacja1 Před 28 dny +1

    So are you sure when you go MM and have hunter with lion in raid better go as lonely wolf rune ? You loosing 10 proc stats + pet dmg .
    Thabk you for this amazing huide

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před 28 dny +1

      it kinda depends on your run and what your doing.
      however lone wolf is gonna scale with multitargets. So per sims lone wolf is behind single target, but not by much at all.
      - however on multitarget it'll always be better and it will scale the more targets involved. So for overall dmg lone wolf is huge.
      #1 prio as always is to make sure the raid has lion so it's really only a option if someone else is running lion or kings.

    • @stagnacja1
      @stagnacja1 Před 18 dny +1

      @@Naturetvz SO what you suggest on bosses if you going MM for group and got Lion from onother hunter . Lone Wolf or pet ?

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před 18 dny +1

      yeah for Boss single target Marksman build + Lion on Chest or Marksman rune are BIS - Both of these runes are pretty equivalent, Marksman rune could outshine if you ever have any mana issues, which we prob won't have this phase.
      For any multitarget or for Overall dmg, Lone wolf is BIS

  • @brandonkruse6412
    @brandonkruse6412 Před měsícem

    Hope I can hit 50 before the Cata pre patch because I need to play my Cata Hunter again 😅

  • @gstar1838
    @gstar1838 Před měsícem +1

    Cptn approved

  • @christopherbreland7933
    @christopherbreland7933 Před měsícem +1

    how we looking after small BM and raptor fury nerf?

    • @Naturetvz
      @Naturetvz  Před měsícem

      melee hunter is still really good, it kinda just goes w/ blizzards statement of balancing the two to make melee equal to or a tiny less than ranged
      - we'll know more tomorrow once EU receives the updates and everyones logs are in after restart.
      as of right now you just see a lil jump up in ranged vs melee on overall WCL stats sod.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2009/#sample=1

  • @Mexi99
    @Mexi99 Před měsícem

    Is serpenmnt striker not good at all then?

  • @sniperdps
    @sniperdps Před měsícem

    No way is that helm better than the gnomer helm. Or did I misunderstand you? The rank 7 helm has 2 more agi, but gnomer has the on use, AND +3 weapon dmg, which is huge for melee.

    • @sniperdps
      @sniperdps Před měsícem

      And the paranoia shoulders are bis. Is this because you're not LW?

  • @Genero222
    @Genero222 Před měsícem

    I recommend a light on your desk. Can’t see your face cause of poor lighting.

  • @plasticbudgie
    @plasticbudgie Před měsícem

    Looking forward to ranged one x

  • @mrexoticelf422
    @mrexoticelf422 Před měsícem

    you can still melee with marksman skill tree too?

  • @kyeema-of-the-shadows
    @kyeema-of-the-shadows Před měsícem

    So sad some of our BiS is greens and level 40 gear as well as leather gear

  • @hodorgergely6387
    @hodorgergely6387 Před měsícem

    ah, SOD, blizzard's very own private server style "all in broken as fuck we dont even try to look like we care" expansion

  • @rodgoesinya9947
    @rodgoesinya9947 Před měsícem

    Imagine needing a guide to melee hunter lmao. Yiur rotation is literally raptor strike. And you're a hinter so you roll on every weapon In the game regardless of stats