wood burning stoves - super efficient rocket mass heater
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- čas přidán 20. 02. 2012
- See Ernie and Erica in a 4-DVD set about rocket mass heaters richsoil.com/wood-heat
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Ernie and Erica Wisner have created over 700 rocket mass heaters, quite probably the most efficient woord burning stoves made. Ernie and Erica moderate the wood burning stoves forum at permies.com and help thousands of people build these stoves.
This video is of their latest wood burning stove. They've had snow on the ground for months, and have seen a fair bit of sub zero temperatures. And they stay warm all day with just one small fire each day. We talk about how warm we feel indoors 19 hours after the last fire was burned.
This wood burning stove has some enhancements over other rocket mass heaters in that it has a barrel top that will come off, plus the barrel has an extension at the bottom. The heat riser core is made of firebrick. After a couple months of use you can see the ash build up inside.
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Erica made plans for this very popular rocket mass heater here permies.com/t/40984
It's hard to tell where the exhaust is. And how the piping is set up.
I think they live close to where we are. Someday I hope to see one in person.
im looking to possibly build a rocket stove to heat vats of water for breeding tropical fish - in Tennessee, in a greenhouse - i really need some advice on how to do this. I was thinking of running pipes under or around the breeding vats. not sure if this will work though. the vats will be heavily insulated and covered to retain heat.
I do not want to boil my fish.
@@ShotgunAndAShovel To retain control of the temperature it would probably be better to move warmed water around rather then moving heated air. I am imagining something like the rocket heated hot tub concept and then pump that heated water into the tanks as required to achieve the temperature you want. That way any overheating or heat fluctuations occur in the hot tub and not in the tanks.
@@jaseastroboy9240 i thought about this. im worried ill boil my stock. how would i prevent too hot water?
@@ShotgunAndAShovel I imagine there would be some sort of water movement for filtration etc. So adding a tempering valve to that circuit rated to deliver the temperature you require may do it. The water from the fish tanks would be the "cold" water and the water from the rocket heater heated tank the "hot" water. The tempering valve would mix the two as required to get the rated temperature and that mixed water would then return to the fish tanks. Other than the pumps to move the water there would be no electronics/electrical required. The tempering valve is purely mechanical. To this you could optionally add some sort of over temperature alarm/shutoff if you wanted more peace of mind.
I just wanted to share that I just finished my first rocket mass heater (after much research --most of it penned by Ernie and Erica-- and almost as much hesitation). It was a bit of a scary experience because I didn't (not really, anyway) know what I was doing, but I was overjoyed (almost getting emotional) when I went outside this morning to inspect the exhaust coming out of the chimney pipe and I discovered that there was literally no smoke...just STEAM! (which was obvious because steam disappears into thin air instead of floating away).
This is on top of the fact that after its' first burn yesterday (about 6 hours), our house was still toasty warm this morning, over 8 hours after the fire went out last night. I had heard the claims, but I have to say that the experience is borderline miraculous when you have a little success of your own with it.
Thanks, Paul, Ernie, Erica...and thanks to all others who help put this information out there. (P.S.- Just a warning to those who try it for the first time...the cold, wet cob takes a long time to warm up, and the draft is sketchy at first, but once it dries out it's awesome!! Just give it a day or so before thinking you did it wrong).
I watched it without sound and I'm not disappointed. 😁👍
I had the privilege to meet Ernie and Erika last month. We are in the process of building a strawbale cabin two hours South of Ernie and Erika - these are genuine people who are so smart. They are excellent teachers - don't judge
both husband and wife should receive innovation award
My barrel got some radiant heat. Thanks for sharing
A cord of wood is 128 cubic feet.
If one burns 2 cubic feet of wood per day like Ernie says he does,
they will go through a cord every 64 days.
At that rate of consumption the cord would last just over 2 months,
not the 4 months they thought.
And that doesn't cover the really cold days where they say they use 2x wood.
Therefore they probably use right around 3 cords every winter, give or take a bit.
Which is roughly what my buddy uses to heat his home in northern Alberta where it can hit minus 40 C. He’s using a sealed wood stove.
"It's stopped focusing"
"Well, so have we, so. . . " LMAO Permies have the best spirits.
Love it.
Hey, enough about body parts, this is about their stove!!! Just be glad they shared it with us!! There are other sites that would welcome those comments but they have no place here!
well said.
Booooooooo freedom of speech
We love Ernie and Erica. My husband Dan did a summer class with them this year & was so inspired. We're planning our stove now for a spring build. Hubby had lots of video from the class and I wish I could have been there. E&E are so knowledgeable but still very easy-going and funny. They are an amazing team and played off each other in subtle and playful ways that kept the class fun. We'll be re-watching our videos as we finalize our stove plan. Thanks for sharing this, Paul.
he doesn't require much heat - his sweet eyebrows keep him warm
That dude looks like Groundskeeper Willie, from Springfield Elementary.... The Simpsons!
I was trying to think of some kind of description,,,a really strange appearance ,but Willie is good
Busted
More like a gay, Irish, missing link 😖
Much Respect Ernie and Erica!! my dad and I have dedicated ourselves to building a RMH the right way... all masonry, equal cross sectional area, rough surface for turbulence, smooth as possible elbows in mass bench, go vertical near barrel for extra draw,etc........ I have several hundred hours research invested by now and would like to pass on to everyone who is interested, that you will find no better mentors for RMHs on the net than Ernie and Erica Wisner. I would have made endless mistakes and wasted countless money if not for there wise instructions. thanks a million E and E
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I do "like this sort of thing," but love the very real people you introduce us to. Thank you Ernie and Erica!
You Guys / Gal are FANTASTIC!!!!!
Thank You for sharing!!
I just joined the forum today! I promise to read first and ask questions ONLY! after I could not find it!
I am sure you are busy with other people!
I think that it is AMAZING!! that you ALL contribute and share to help everyone!
Thank You!!
That guy is permanently surprised looking
Lol browse gone wild
i notice that too. he could be a great actor!
holy shit..best comment ever..I went into a hysterical fit of laughter when I read it..keep up the good work (still laughing) wtf
You should see him in one of his workshop guys photo. He looks like he could rip a tree out with his hands. Great video. Thanks guys.
Thanks for the information, man. :-)
i am now fan of that guy! LOL
Send me please the link. :-D
Ernie and Erica ! I just wanted you to look through these comments and see Warmest Regards from all your friends in Northern New York, and especially from Allen and Martha Lumley - Erica give the ' Elderly Naval Man ' a hug from us !
People here in New Zealand and Australia love this keep it up guys.
We would like to have these people as our next door neighbors.very refreshing people.
Nice to hear from people who REALLY know exactly what they're talking about!! Good video!
Paul I love your videos, and I love seeing the progression that the Rocket mass heaters have made in the year I've been watching! I'm gonna do it!
We are planning on building a rocket stove within the next week. Thank you so much for being kind enough to give us all this information:)
Whoa...look at all that snow! Brrrrr! They look cozy, though!
WOW!! I am VERY impressed! The design, the efficiency, the temp in your house at the time. Very good stuff! Way to go!
Look at them 2, they are happily in love.. We need more videos like this!! Canada is so Awesome!
I couldn't help but notice that he must be the luckiest guy on the planet! (Btw, nice work on the stove and thanks for the video.)
Thanks! I'd never seen this take on masonry mass heaters before, this is really cool.
Thank you for this excellent post, Paul. You are kicking ass and my partner and I LOVE and are very grateful for your wonderful efforts in sharing all this great info. THANK YOU.
I get such a kick outta this vid. Erica showing us the wood they use, wonderful! And Ernie's layed back/unibrow style is comforting, except....I hafta ask, is he a WareWolf? Love the video! Keep up the great work
Thank you for making so many quality videos showcasing self-sufficient lifestyles. It's really an inspiration to those of us who want to live outside of mainstream society. We are building a house that will be heated with wood. I would have loved to do a rocket stove, but the inspector balked at that idea. Definitely going to experiment with one in a guest house or outdoor kitchen.
Just subbed. Thank you for sharing. Love this rocket mass heater. Shared this video ;)
Great idea and to not have to split so much wood is nice. It's cool to see people just living their lives...we're stuck in the city just scratching everyday for our place on this planet.
I'll read the links instead of pestering you with any questions. I hope Ernie's leg gets better and never worse. ~Peace!
Thank you for all you've done with the rocket stove concept...I really like the idea of removing the top to do a clean out of the heat exchanger. I will definitely go with this idea on my next stove.
Very cool design! Thanks for making and uploading the video!
Brilliant! Thanks for uploading just the info we needed.
Awesome job guys - thanks for the ideas! Love the writeups on them too - reading through them now :)
I really like this video and especially the real people in it.
Impressive cans! Oh yah nice stove too!
That was mighty kind of you to share your really awesome stove with us. And thank for taking the top off of the can so we could see the guts of rig. The science of rocket-mass heaters is amazing, and good for the environment, too. You can't beat that combo! Stay warm up there in the mountains! (I'm sure you will).
These folks would fit right in with the hippie culture of 1970s.
Thanks for sharing this info...I am now intrigued by this form of heating!
I love your life style. I'm in Canada,Quebec so it's very cold. I'm going to use a RMH in my greenhouse. Love your ideas.
Tell you what ,im divorcing and have to face starting over with little money and two bum knees and this thing is looking better every day ,thanks for sharing ,i wasnt always for in house rocket heat but looks like im gonna go that route soon : )
Ernie certainly didn't look comfortable with the interview to the camera situation. But once he was able to demonstrate aspects of the heater he came alive. Definitely appeared to be somebody who can teach a topic but isn't comfortable talking about themselves. Erica has the easy smile that makes you want to smile with her. And from the many admiring comments it is clear she can also attract a crowd. I think attracting viewers with a very nice thumbnail and then being able to keep them watching the whole video is an amazing effort. Shows that your topic and delivery was interesting even to those viewers that may not have initially been interested in rocket heaters. Well done.
what an interesting looking couple
There is someone for everyone.
They seems so sweet and happy to share their experiences.
I was perusing the internet for new and exciting ways to burn your house down, when I came across a video on rocket stoves… a couple hippies did a three minute presentation on one and boom I was sold, eh!
@@NegativeBodhiImage it's actually safer than a conventional open fireplace. They're still hippies, though. Love me some hippies
You both look very happy, and we like your video, thank grins and smiles.
Nice video, thanks for posting. They remind me of the people I grew up around in the seventies who were going back to the land.solar panels made out of pop cans and food coops...everyone was eating buckwheat bread and rolling their own butter and picking eggs great times
Very, very nice... My friend from work wants to make one this summer, for his lodge, where he is hawing bee hives. I recommended him to see Your videos.
Best Regards,
Goran
P.S. Thank You all very much for sharing.
I've never heard of something like this before but you've definitely caught my interest. Great video! Thanks.
Dude clicked cuz of the tits
Nice video, thank you for posting it. Seems like a stress free lifestyle:-)
thanks for sharing this info. also what a great couple !!
These two are great. And I do mean Ernie and Erica....I built a rocket mass for my shop after watching their years of experience. You can check out the vid of mine running and heating a 960 square foot shop on a cold minnesota night. "KCs Ranch rocket stove build". There are some shots of the build in the 6 part vid as well as info about the space heated. I tried to cover the questions that i had and give a complete rundown of the design build and performance. Thanks to the whole youtube community for sharing. After my first winter wood use was down from 6 chordes to 2. Check it out at kcs ranch rocket stove build
Good work! Inspiring!!
I built my rocket heater last sept,15 8" steel pipe 3/4 wall with sweep 90's I used a 55 gal barrel and a half of another 55,
The up tube was10" steel tube with refractory batting wrapped around the tube,
The first 6 years I heated with wood stove used 5 or 6 cords per winter, this year I used scrap wood from a cabinet shop,
2 or 3 fires a day, my heater has yet to be cleaned out,
Located in the coldest part of Utah, way below zero for weeks, I do not have a heat storage bench yet, My heater roars. This was the warmest my home has been
Love the videos and the simplicity of this heater. The language in which you respond is more than questionable. Grace and heart go along way.
Peace!
awesome video guys. looking good.
What a fantastic video....
great stuff i love it! thanks guys!
Impresive Mansory work done! Hope that I can do one of does in the future! Right know im doing just a metal one... lol! I hope it doesnt melt "that fast" Thanks for sharing your work!
excellent video,thanx. very informative, in an easy sociable manner.
If you looked at his leg, you would see real reasons for the crutches. He walks without them sometimes because the dude is one big gob of muscle. But every time he walks without it, it fucks up his back. Oh, and his leg got smashed while he was volunteering to help people learn about this stuff.
This guy got hurt saving the world and you thought you would give him a kick in the nuts from over the internet.
In my book, ernie is a fucking superhero. And you're just icky.
very cool stuff, thanks!!!
4mos/cord is fantastic. Great area where you guys live, I've been up there fishing.
Thanks Paul, for continuing to rock... btw, I thought the out of focus thing was a cool outro. I think that should be your new signature.
Good job, enjoyed your video
It is vented to the outside. The chimney is inside the barrel. Details are at the article at richsoil.
Wow that is really cool.
EXCELLENT... thanks for sharing.
super kool ,thanks for posting
Interesting stuff. Thanks!
Great last comment.. "So have we." last words.
I love this dude's eyebrows. And rocking the pajama pants at 2 pm...nice. :)
OMG Erica is GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great system. I build one. Extremely efficient. Minimum lost of heat to out door. Everyone should have one to heat the house to reduce fossil fuel consumption.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN
I am going with a 55 gal. drum after all. This video, as I have the fire brich heat riser seals the deal for me.
Well said, She is what the old timers would say " one to ride the river with"
Combined with a couple solar air heater window boxes, the wood needed to heat the house would be reduced even more. Very efficient and clean :-)
@RonRay THAT makes sense! That camera seems to go stupid with focus about 20% of the time. I was about to get rid of the camera, but now I'll try to figure out how I might be screwing it up.
Very nice video Thanks :)
WOW! I feel like I just went back in time (1968?)
Did you look at all the stuff in all the links in the descriptions?
Thank you!
this is very cool!!!
They're some pretty cool people.
Very interesting. Thank you.
There is a spirit in that house with them, Not that anyone cares but just thought they would want to know !😇
Good or bad?
jksatte IDK if it's good or not, I can see it in there tho. I would think if it were bad these PPL would know by now !!
Have any of the videos you watched mentioned visiting the forums at permies.com?
Nice folks!
How hot does the barrel get when you have a fire? Also interesting you have a vertical instead of the more traditional horizontal fire box?
That's a real nice looking 55gal drum in the house. Everyone needs one of these in their living room.
It would go nice with my oriental rug
Last part, it's not focusing anymore... Then they say neither are we... LOL! XD
Vera Vera cool people- love the video
Hi, I am a newbe. I collected some things to build a rocket heater, one being a heavy round steel pipe for the manifold. It is 4" pipe, I was then going into a 6" pipe exhaust. Will this be a mistake for drafting? Another thing is the combustion chamber, what is a good material to use? I had some heavy container but I am seeing failings with them. Thank you so much
Cool!
Good work thank you
thanks for the service @ 2:22 ;)
excellent!!!
Awesome! Thanks.
i have just started looking at the basic videos...Permies keeps turning up as one place to go for more info, and i see also cover other subjects, such as gardening. i have a stack of chimney brick and some other materials to build one of these, but would like ideas where people actually use these on a daily basis to heat their homes. winter is hitting here in Montana, and i don't want to pay Northwestern any more than i have to.