Threading and changing the Leather on a Bow

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2021
  • Every now and then you need to change the threading of bow. To do that you always have to change the leather as well. I do this on my self-made threading machine.
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Komentáře • 65

  • @rossthefiddler5890
    @rossthefiddler5890 Před 2 lety +1

    Again, another good example of making jigs & tools to make life easier & to produce a quicker & better outcome. I made my own winder too as it certainly makes it easier than twisting the bow to wind the wire on (as I've seen others do). I have found the masking tape to go rather tacky over time when I've taken it off other bows (from known current bow makers 'downunder') so I prefer to cut plain paper & glue it on with white glue instead. I usually just use white glue for the leather too but have tried the starting edge with superglue out of frustration with the leather not staying put in its starting position (it works OK when gluing onto plain paper). I usually use a 15mm Swiss steel knife to chamfer the leather but that razorblade idea looks quite effective. If I'm doing my own bow I have been known to continue the wire the full length under the leather, but silver wire costs, so I wouldn't do that normally for others (& if being particular about balancing the bow).

  • @Lancer0047
    @Lancer0047 Před 3 lety

    It turned out beautifully. Thank you

  • @LadyTigerLily
    @LadyTigerLily Před 3 lety +2

    A very fascinating video, Maestro! These kinds of disassembly and repair videos give me such an appreciation for a luthier's work and also for a better understanding of my instrument.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Meghann! Good to hear the you liked it!

  • @mrgolftennisviolin
    @mrgolftennisviolin Před 2 lety +1

    Never knew my bow needed eyeliner! 😉
    Seriously though, cool video! Never knew how that was done.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 2 lety +1

      Everyone can be pretty!!!
      Goot to hear that you like it!

  • @AmandaViolinGirl
    @AmandaViolinGirl Před 3 lety +1

    Looking forward to seeing the next part of seeing the hair being done.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +1

      That video is already one! You can see it here: czcams.com/video/wWwvGOKC6K8/video.html

    • @AmandaViolinGirl
      @AmandaViolinGirl Před 3 lety +1

      @@maestrokimon I have seen it but was also hoping to see this one being rehaired too.

  • @jonathans1541
    @jonathans1541 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the video! Yes, a video of how the jig is made would be wonderful. What do you use to clean the bow and the winding?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +2

      Hello Jonathan. I will probably make a video about the machine. I use a product to clean silver that is used for jewellery as well.

    • @jonathans1541
      @jonathans1541 Před 3 lety

      @@maestrokimon Thank you!

  • @wouteranthierens
    @wouteranthierens Před 3 lety +2

    Hi maestro, again wonderful insight in the art of bow making! I play cello, and always wondered if the silver wrapping has a purpose other than esthetics. weight balance ?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Wouter. The silver and leather part are there to protect the wood of the bow. As you know the leather part is where your thumb goes and the silver is for the rest of the finger (approximately!).

    • @maferhernandez5889
      @maferhernandez5889 Před rokem

      Muy .pero muy buen trabajo sobre todo el arte de un bueen laudero felizcidadadedes

  • @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan
    @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan Před 10 měsíci

    👍patreons🍒

  • @FiddleCzar87
    @FiddleCzar87 Před 3 lety

    Can you share they type (chrome tanned - veg tanned) and weight of leather you use for your wrap?

  • @michaelwhisman
    @michaelwhisman Před rokem

    Please make a video of your wire winding machine.

  • @marthinusvanderwesthuizen4010

    Good do's. Where did you get the pipe clam with the metal thumb screw?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety

      Thanks Marthinus! I bought it at a local DIY shop like Gamma or Praxis. I don't remember anymore...

  • @Pracownia_Lutnicza_Warszawa

    Nice video, but i am waiting for episode, when you explain how many wire go get to bow if we have not old wire markings and general about calculating center weight point in bow. Please !!!

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you. I will see what I can do about this topic.

    • @Pracownia_Lutnicza_Warszawa
      @Pracownia_Lutnicza_Warszawa Před rokem

      @@maestrokimon hello, i want to remind about this topic. I hope to see episode about it. Greetings!

  • @RAkers-tu1ey
    @RAkers-tu1ey Před 3 lety +1

    Very informative, Thank You! Is the specific diameter of the wire important? What is the gauge or diameter of the wire you use? I have 3 bows to repair / re hair / regrip. Do you think making a jig will be worth the time?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +2

      for violin I use 0,25mm and cello 0,3mm. I wouldn't know how to do it without the machine. I think that it would be more trouble.

    • @RAkers-tu1ey
      @RAkers-tu1ey Před 3 lety

      @@maestrokimon Thank You for your wisdom. I will make the machine!

    • @Deluge4000
      @Deluge4000 Před 3 lety +1

      @@maestrokimon thanks! I was also curious about the wire diameter

  • @JonAhlquist
    @JonAhlquist Před 3 měsíci

    1:53 What kind of liquid did you use with a paper towel to clean the part of the bow where the wire and leather will go?

  • @predragsavatovic2464
    @predragsavatovic2464 Před měsícem

    Hello Sir, would you be so kind to inform me, which kind of glue Titebond, you use ?

  • @jadielsonpedro4337
    @jadielsonpedro4337 Před 4 měsíci

    Ola, esse fio e de niquel? E 0,30mm?

  • @violinworker3156
    @violinworker3156 Před 2 lety

    Are you using all silver wire or copper wire? If with a copper core, how long this working until the silver is out to copper? And I also wanted to ask. Some manufacturers of violin bows cover the winding with transparent tape. How much is right? Indeed, when playing it is more difficult to keep.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 2 lety +1

      I mostly put back what the maker had put on it. If it is pure silver, that's what I also put. Otherwise silver plated copper.

  • @tonoosterhoff
    @tonoosterhoff Před 3 lety

    Why is the silver thread looking black and silver in the beginning and what did you use to clean it?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Toon. It is a bit black because it was oxidised. I use a product to clean silver that is used for jewellery as well.

  • @TXCrafts1
    @TXCrafts1 Před 3 lety +1

    This was a very helpful video indeed, I will build one of those rigs for winding. Question where can you buy the silver wire?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety

      Good to hear! You can buy the wire and other supplies at dictum.com

  • @kanatsizkanatli
    @kanatsizkanatli Před 3 lety +1

    Why do we need silver winding? Wouldn't a plastic material be more protective and give better grip?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +1

      There is also plastic winding but it is more of an aesthetic mater that protection or grip.

    • @Deluge4000
      @Deluge4000 Před 3 lety

      Thick (2mm) plasitic windings exist as 'imitation whalebone'. Vinyl is common on cheaper thumb grips, but does not last as long as leather.
      Some silver windings come with a protective layer of clear tape to slow the speed at which the silver tarnishes.
      Silver is much heavier than plastic, so plays a role in the weight, balance and 'feel' of the bow.

    • @Adrian_AdamViolonDiGerma-tm3nq
      @Adrian_AdamViolonDiGerma-tm3nq Před 7 měsíci

      For example, there are plastic and wooden violins. Also an Original KFC and a faked product.
      Why not choose a plastic violin which is more durable And cheap fake KFC when a real violin is very sensitive And real KFC is tastier and more expensive?
      We're talking about authenticity, Quality, Beauty, and what is desired. Not just functions, cheap cost, and copies.
      VSO is not permitted here

  • @Tostra1997
    @Tostra1997 Před 3 lety +2

    Say this was a new bow that had never been wound before, or you didn't have wire of equal denisty to the one on the bow originally, how would you work out the amount of winding needed to balance the bow? I imagine you could also change the balance significantly by continuing the winding all the way under the leather or use a different density or thickness of wire? I always find this tricky, especially trying to predict the final weight of the bow when the hair is missing. That's one reason why I rarely dare to touch a bow mysself...

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +2

      Hello Tobias. The weight of the wire is a very small portion of the weight of the bow. Threading one centimetre more or less won't change the balance significantly especially because it is weight added to the side where you keep the bow with your hand. Adding weight to the tip has a much bigger effect. The thickness of the wire varies between 0,2mm and 0,3mm, that 0,1mm more is also not significant enough in my opinion.

    • @Tostra1997
      @Tostra1997 Před 3 lety

      @@maestrokimon Well thank you, that's nice to hear. I can't say if I think it makes a difference, but what you say certainly gives me a bit of courage to try rewrapping a few bows and see what I think :-)

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +2

      @@Tostra1997 As always, try ona cheap one, if you mess up, no regret!!!

    • @Tostra1997
      @Tostra1997 Před 3 lety

      @@maestrokimon Oh, don't worry! I never touch anything nice before I'm confident I can do a good job. Besides, I don't have many good bows, so... :-P

  • @violinmaster2011
    @violinmaster2011 Před 3 lety

    with what clean the thread?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety

      I use a product to clean silver that is used for jewellery as well.

  • @kentuckysmallbatchstrings4569

    How’s the Pochette coming along?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety +2

      Today I'm staring to film the upcoming video that will be online the 11th of July!

  • @earlcollinsworth4914
    @earlcollinsworth4914 Před 2 lety +1

    /////please show us how to build the machine.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 2 lety

      Probably, I will. Thank you for the sugestion!

  • @majidmoghaddasi
    @majidmoghaddasi Před 2 lety

    What are Differences between violin and cello bows?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 2 lety +1

      The cello bow is shorter, heavier and thicker.

    • @majidmoghaddasi
      @majidmoghaddasi Před 2 lety

      @@maestrokimon Is it possible to use the cello bow to play the violin?Or not the right thing to do.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 2 lety +1

      It is not the right thing to do. A cello bow is to heavy for the violin. You will have problems with your arm if you do so.

  • @annemaija
    @annemaija Před 3 lety

    Do you sell used bows?

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 3 lety

      Yes I have some bows for sell, can you send me an e-mail?

  • @barleybandito
    @barleybandito Před rokem

    You should clean the silver wire with steel wool before it wraps around the bow stick. It'll look cleaner. Sure you cleaned it up but it still looks kinda dirty. Also, you didn't go into taking into account weight and balance of the bow when deciding the length of the winding. Probably because it's too complicated for youtube. Gonna teach a whole bunch of Grandpa Guarneris how to mess up their bows 😬

  • @AmandaViolinGirl
    @AmandaViolinGirl Před 3 lety +1

    First to view

  • @lgyqchen5074
    @lgyqchen5074 Před 6 měsíci

    In my opinion, the end of leather is too close to the frog. 6 mm distance should be better. So that the thumb will never touch the leather.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 6 měsíci +1

      The thumb should always toch the leather! The leather is there to protect the wood! Otherwise, the wood gets used and damaged.

    • @lgyqchen5074
      @lgyqchen5074 Před 6 měsíci

      @@maestrokimon Actually when the bow is tightened, there will be a space between the end of leather and the frog. So, the thumb will always touch the wood stick, rather than only touch the leather. I believe the point finger should rest on the leather, rather than on the metal threads. Therefore, there should be enough space between the leather and the frog.

    • @maestrokimon
      @maestrokimon  Před 6 měsíci

      It definitely is for the thumb as well. I have seen bows with a used leather where the nail had caused significant damage to the wood of the bow. And once there is a groove at that point, you can't repair it anymore, and the bow loses its value.