Hardest JRPG Boss of All Time? • SMT: Digital Devil Saga • |Demi-Fiend Boss Fight| - Montage
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With Demi-Fiend being one of my personal favorite SMT characters & hearing you could face him in Digital Devil Saga, I couldn't resist the challenge to face him.
Then hearing he's arguably one of the hardest JRPG bosses ever made, made me want to face the man even more!
Times I have failed this fight...too many to count.
Would I do it again? Hell no...
Man, I swear that when I did it was almost the same. first I didn't have idea how tough he was and I run with null skills. After learning my lesson I face him several times but I failed. After that I leave the game for many months but I had promised myself don't play dds2 until I beat Hitoshura and it was unevitable at the end. So here we go one more time I was doing great but I killed Pixie near to the end and then shit got real. I won.
If you don't believe me I record the instant czcams.com/video/IvZ4XpuNbc0/video.html anyway thanks for upload the saga, is one of my favorites sagas of all times. Maybe is nothing coming from a guy from Venezuela but you earn a new subscriber. Keep it up
Why do he have his theme song you ask? because you are just a random encounter to him lol. anyway good job
Still easier and less-terrifying than Elizabeth
Especially since P3 has a difficulty slider with a much-wanted Hard Mode
ネミッサ an attendant who rules over power itself? You are forgetting how for Elizabeth specifically most players will rely on using Armageddon to end the fight a hell of a lot sooner, otherwise battle an opponent who may never actually go down, that and forced-solo makes it far less forgiving than satan or demi-fiend
Not to mention how with Demi Fiend you can actually just stall MP loss for his companions and take him out before any of his demons if you want to, really easy then, especially since he doesn't have a timer unlike elizabeth where she'll crack out Pixie.
Then Satan just has one rule to follow where you have to hit em like four times with a specific move to prevent being OHKOed; Elizabeth's set pattern, and the existence of Armageddon are what make her possible; otherwise there would be no actual real method of combating her; hell Satan and the Demi-Fiend both become extremely easy if you use the party member who is weak to ailments; particularly the demi fiend.
Though; doesn't Satan also follow a particular pattern as well?
ネミッサ mediarahan doesn't function without MP, all of his demons can run out of that, the downside to having set MP values
This is SMT/Persona though; outlasting the Demi-Fiends Demons isn't exactly exploitative, and neuters him pretty effectively, and again turning damage taken down heavily does weaken elizabeth, but there still is a general timer before that stops mattering, even Satan's move-restricting is actually part of how he has to be approached; since he actually follows a set pattern where he will either start his turn with an OHKO or the move Temptation, I forget which turn pattern it is he follows since it's been a while, but his moves are set and he is DESIGNED to be approached that way or he will OHKO; I don't know why they took that design approach but they did
I would also like to mention how the Demi-Fiend isn't ACTUALLY as canonically powerful as he is made out to be, even when he "beats" Lucifer it was obvious Lucifer wasn't going all out; that and the Demi-Fiend also is apparently supposed to die to Raidou by mistake (That's the name right?) in order to even show up in IV Apocalypse's *Canon* DLC
This is a bit different than Elizabeth who can fight the manifestation of all of Humanity's wills to die and Oneshot it, and do remember that in SMT and Persona alike the wills of even a few humans could create or neuter potentially omnipotent gods, that's how you kill YZHZ in IV Apocalypse to begin with
The beings who rule over power itself are a *bit* tougher than given credit; specifically Elizabeth
You ask why does the normal battle theme from Nocturne play when fighting Demi-fiend? Simple, because for him you're just another random encounter.
Suck for demifuend cause he still died
This is the equivalent to Dr strange and him only seeing 2 times where the boys win like holy shit
Pretty accurate since random encounters are able to fuck you over in his game
True. You may be a random encounter to him...
But even in his home game, he could get wrecked by random encounters that just so happened to counter his current setup...
1 out of 100 is normal win/lose for Demi-fiend
"Why do I hear his music?"
>Demi deals almost 9999 in a game where you don't get 4 digits
Okay, the fact that Serph's gun fucking *Crit* Demi is hysterical. He just did not expect for you to just shoot him with a fucking pistol of all things.
There are only two men who had the guts to do that to him, and he only meets one depending on which version you’re playing.
He should be used to it with Dante doing it so much
To Jerome, it was a battle of life and death, an experience worse than hell itself. To Demi-Fiend, it was Tuesday.
Jerome: FUCK! THIS IS A HARD BOSS!
Demi-fiend: Fuck! Why are so many random encounters in this room? I'm fine with these demons, now, LEAVE ME ALONE!
@@franconunez925 "Let me get to the fucking save point!"
I love when he attacked Pixie the first time and he saw Gaea Rage he was like “I’ve made a horrible miscalculation.”
Truly, that scream at the end sounded like you had just conquered hell itself.
Liam Sharp it was much worse than hell I can tell you that much about this fight lol
Oh it's just him turning into his atma avatar, no worries
It sounded like he came in a really weird and visceral way
I can tell, it actually was that... No hyperb
When did people start calling Fire Emblem Awakening Lunatic+ hell? 😆
Gale sleeping through the apocalypse is everyone's spirit animal.
I just hate how random it is. Lost a few times where I almost won because Gale stayed awake...
Didn't play this game in ages, was there a passive skill to make Gale dodge 90% of the time while asleep? I bet there was but I can't be sure
@@kevinsephiroth First, that passive skill is called Null Sleep, second, it was 100%, not 90%
"Death's vastness holds no peace. i come at the end of the long road............neither human, nor devil. all bends to my will. At the end of all things i wait, an army at my back and a king at my side. To the final battle where my true enemy awaits."
So he does speak, afterall
@@spiralviper8158 Smt 4 Apocalypse dlc pretty much confirmed it.
@@DEEKPro Well, he also speaks in the game, through the dialogue options.
He grunt
@@bigdingus9333 "Hmm!"
Demi Fiend, when summoning demons
7:07
Now I get where that "Pixie is Demifiend's waifu" meme comes from lol. I find hilarious how developers added such a triggering event to the battle.
Ultra instinct Gale when he's at sleep
The reason his battle theme plays in his Superboss?
You're not worth his time. you're just another mook to him.
BlitzkriegOmega take a shot every time you read this comment on this video
More like "NO REASON"
Any mook can kick Demi's ass if he underestimate them.
I know this, because i lost count how many time random mooks keep one-turn kill me with light and dark element when i'm grinding.
He still got his ass beat and mooks are not to be underestimated in Atlus games
Almighty God...666 likes...
Next Target: Satan
Location: Digital Devil Saga 2
26 attempts. Took you 26 attempts and you killed him on the 27th attempt. Congrats, Jerome.
RacingJon2010 only 26?
@@Kaisogen Yep. It was around 26 attempts. I was there when he streamed this.
RacingJon2010 impressive
The only boss I could never defeat. Also my favorite protagonist, from my favorite game of all time.
ALSO: Demi-Fiend isn't really there, it's just his data.
Hmm so shin megami tensei was ahead of the curb again before kingdom hearts even touched data
I lost my deeta, but I had an antivirus!
@@bigdingus9333 proto moment
And the data show that Demi-fiend will kill a motherfucka if they had the balls to attack Pixie too.
Also, Hito is actually sandbagging hardcore. He wasn't using items, didn't have Dante, never used Freikugel nor Divine Shot, etc.
Ultimate Scrub i'm just glad he didn't have Deadly Fury lmao
Ultimate Scrub not to mention he never brought one of his fiend friends.
janluis333 I mean didn't he KILL the fiends lmao
He could've brought them because he can just fuse them back (thanks mido :) )
Ignore Reasons oh no not the fiend succ!!!😨😨😨
These stream sessions aged me by about 50 years, seeing Demi-fiend finally fall was pretty damn exciting, also nice job with the editing and music, loved that you used the Reason theme for the opening lol. Nice touch with the DBZ theme and montage at the end as well, nice way to wrap up the video, now just waiting on that Satan montage :P
do you know what the music at the end was?
@@avikdas9910 Pandora's theme, right? From persona
thanks
7:06
Demifiend:"you hit my waifu, I end your laifu"
SMTV: *_You ain't seen nothin'' yet!"_*
14:19 Top ten sounds that humanity still haven't understood.
PS: GALE, KEEP SLEEPING.
Yeahhwoooeh
Gale: I do not comprehend
He sounded like the clones from us
smt has actually started off as digital demons in the real world. basically Digimon in reverse
Sob digimon in later seasons? Lol
SMT came first
"Demi Fiend! I have come for your ass!
"I have come for yours."
And thus both walked away from each other, awkwardly.
Thank God we don't have any shippers in this Fandom.
Demi fiend X serph would've been utterly awful
So you basically drained all of pixie mp using her as a loop to prevent healing sweet.....
Champ Gary I think it's called the Red Star plan. It's a tough ass plan though, you'll have to get mad lucky. Cause there's a counter for her casts except for Dekunda. If her casts hit the 30 turn marker she completely heal Demi-Fiend. Recarmda basically and a new demon takes her place in battle. Utter BS
What is the name of the music that started at 10:43 sounds pretty dope.
Champ Gary Persona 1 - Pandora
Also fun fact, his Arahabaki only has Standard Boss Immunities (TM), so he's actually *weaker* defensively than standard DDS Arahabaki
And Demi Fiend is not even with 3 demons hahahaha.
Jerome, think about it from Hitoshura's point of view. Since Serph and friends are just a random encounter to him (hence the normal battle theme), he's probably thinking that YOU'RE haxxed AI. I would've ran after a while, because the XP just wouldn't have been worth it.
Ultimate Scrub I wanted to do this for well to kick the all powerful demi-fiend & since I was streaming this & Satan, it's great stream material since few have conquered both Satan & Demi-Fiend.
@@JeromeTelos no running in hard mode
I seriously wish SMT brought back Demi fiend in their other games
He is playable in one of the Apocalypse DLCs.
He came back a handful of times
He's in 4, and he was a boss in the Shin megami tensei MMO
He has returned more powerful than ever, now he's fully High Definition.
A High Defi Fiend
@@smileytlj23 yes
Hell is actually just being forced to fight the Demi-Fiend for the people in Heaven's enjoyment.
Getting the True Demon Ending is a secret qualification for hell then, if God is like the SMT God XD
1:37
Demi Fiend: Oh another random encounter.
Ded
This fight really just shows how fucking powerful and badass Demifiend is.
This battle has scarred me for life.
And to think half a year of reflection later you took him down lol. Can't wait to see how you fair against the other optional bosses in the the franchise, though some of them will be less of a headache to an extent.
All of them will be less of a headache. That was basically the ultimate battle. Even Lucifer in SMT Nocturne isn't as hard as the DemiFiend.
"How is Demi-Fiend even in this game" a-amala network ?;;
No its just a crossover like dante in nocturne.
Amala network makes anything possible in this series
@@Vitor20XX But Dante's appearance in Nocturne is cannon in official DMC lore.
@@jakoski link
@@jakoski gunna have to ask for sauce on that as well. Outside his and Vergils DT looking SMT styled cuz of the artist involved theres never been any hint that dantes involvment in nocturne is canon. That would fuck over the SMT canon of nocturne too
Hilarious video! It's always a pleasure to see Demi-Fiend kick ass. It's really too bad we didn't get to see your reaction to having his HP fully healed.
Actually he did do it on me during my run last year. Chat was dying while I was despairing & per usual, reseted the fight cause F that lol
You see its kinda cute when pixie is the main source of terror from the 1st half of the video. Well but i digress we are all know and love that megidolaon pixie XD
Nah, how about the Pixie that knows the skill Armageddon in the fight against Velvet Room attendant Elizabeth from Persona 3 FES?
@deathwindgames Jesus fuck just imagining something like that makes me shiver in fear
Demi-Fiend is back, baby
The reason demi is there is because he's a dimension hopping badass now and is on the prowl for strong opponents
Universe hopping, nit dimension hopping. Maybe even multiverse and time hopping as he appeared in SMT: Imagine and that appeared to be around the time of SMT 1.
18:09 guy drowns and imitates a motorcycle
This is the best comment ever.
@@zombyjano is it? ive seen other comments that are way better than mine
I mean it perfectly describes the noise he made.
he should be alone
Dude is too f****** powerful and awesome to need help
well maybe with his waifu pixie
11:26 Bro the ps triple layout... It gave nostalgic chills of getting the non consential by Demifiend's nape spike.
7:07 You attacked his Waifu, so he ended your Laifu. Simple cause and effect.
18:53 ok. The Demi-Fiend just became top 3 Anime Characters of all time with that!
noice job killing him, it were 48 attemps for me, and did it without draining the mp of pixie (it were like 2 or 3 hours) but it was glorius the moment when i saw him in red (there was a attemp were the first mamudoon whiped out all my party)
smt5 he's back
And he's apparently harder there than in this game. Hoo boy
Loved that you used Pandora's theme from PSP Persona 1!
This is the funniest video I have ever seen in my life. You're excitement is contagious.
"all bends to my will"
That's actually true for every Human, and most people don't know it. But there are many laws that come into play and affect things, like Karma (own action in relation to the law of Cause and Effect)
Featuring demi-fiend from the smt series
dem beautiful eyes of gale
This was.. Just.. Absolutely enlightening. LOL. You truly are a god.
This was the hypest shit I've ever seen honestly
And that's why Demi-fiend is a secret boss from some SMT games.
Since he is Lucifer's creation, that's make him the most powahful protagonist in the franchise.
I love this part 4:02.
What is the name of the song that starts at about 10:45 ish, that and the one when he finally takes out Demi-Fiend?
6:18 Here’s the fun part. She’s still with him in SMT V. That’s right. HE CAME BACK AGAIN.
…they nerfed him though. He doesn’t use Gaea Rage if you have resistances. Probably because you both have demons you can summon. But…he has Chaotic Will which can instant kill all your allies (even if it misses it cuts your Press Turn icons down by half) and Freikugel which doesn’t hit AS HARD as it used to…and he also has Gaea Rage. There is a rare chance he will use it. And when it happens, you best have Enduring Soul or you are FUCKED.
But still is harder than Shiva
Sera, your song is very much needed!!
Demi-Fiend: All your asses finna get ate... **proceeds to spam Javelin Rain**
Aaaah, Demi-Fiend, the sole reason why my young self was so afraid of playing the game...
Fuck that guy. I used to think I was such a badass in this game until him.
Adloquium Dubious after going through Nocturne on Hard & the Digital Devil Saga series, all this has done was making me hope Nocturne gets like a straight Remaster. That would be GODLIKE.
JeromeTelos And with voice acting if possible.
Adloquium Dubious What the hell did you just say about me?
@@JeromeTelos guess what lololol
What was the song playing called?
It's funny that the main way to beat him... Is to use the element which wasn't in his game.
0:57 - 1:26 I had tears in my eyes from laughing too hard. You're a very funny dude!
I'm pretty sure that in the smt lore that's just a projection of the demifiend with a fraction of his power in dds1
Can't say he didn't earn that power.
Did you play DDS in PS3? Cause after watching this video, I want to play it and want (read: try) facing Demi Fiend.
Yes. I played all the ps2 smts on the ps3 cause well it was the only source I had to get decent quality
Isn't it called 'DDS' because *spoilers* they're living in a simulation? That shouldn't be the real Hitoshura then.
Demons are made of data, that's why you can summon them with the demon summoning program
ahh you went with the redstar strat........honestly i used it too :)
Well shit, Demi Fiend is much harder here to fight than he is in Shin Megami Tensei 5.
Demifiend: “oh you think shit’s sweet down here”
Are you gonna play nocturne on switch or PS4?
What’s the song playing at the end as you defeated Demi Fiend?
Months!? Omg congratulations man!
Uhm, that's the sound track that works from 10:45? anyone knows the name?
Pandora from Persona 1 PSP.
Jerome: *Attacks Pixie*
Demi-Fiend: DEATH IT IS THEN.
One of the hardest JRPG bosses i know of is the Unsealed Pringer X! From Disgaea 2. Only because it takes so long to grind to be able to fight them. One guy i know took 3 months of grind to get the levels and gear.
What's the theme that is playing at around the 11 min mark?
Pandora, The Last Battle - Persona 1 (PSP)
You're just a random encounter lol
Can I ask the names of the 2 tracks use in the video? I know they are definetly from Megaten as well but I can't remember where exactly
The one at around minute 10 is Pandora's Theme from SMT: Persona I
(after you die, look at the camera) i love this game
15:00
4:02 Ah yes, Demi-Fiend's only "weakness" and the real reason Dante was such a thorn in his side... Guns!
Must be that human half.
bro REEEEs outloud when he sees demifiend
I want a persona game this challenging
The closest to this is probably Elizabeth
@@cry9297 that's exactly what I said to a different comment on this video too.
Elizabeth without telos is fun
How about Margaret?
@@fermosquera69 Margaret is nothing compared to Elizabeth and Demi-Fiend NOTHING
Imagine how hard that would be if he were using the best Magatama
He Nulls everything from III (Gun, Earth and Almighty can damage him, nothing else will), so he is already using it.
What is the name of the song 13:12 ?
Never mess wit Demi fiends pixie
Does anyone know the song playing at 11:55 ? Sounds good
Persona 1 ,,Pandora'' (PSP version): czcams.com/video/c_Kyku9ubKY/video.html
I’m actually surprised that Dante just lost to this guy until I realized he wasn’t even serious lmao 😂
Unfortunately dante is nothing compared to demifiend
@@ardipithicus4660 in his first meeting dante is stronger
Later on hito is far stronger than him.
Yeah sorry but no. End game demi fiend slams Dante now
There is something clever about realizing that enemies has their own sp bars too. Which then becomes funny when you realize if you take full advantage of that mechanic in any megaten game that features that, it becomes funny when you full on cripple an enemy.
Well that was fun
Should i play devil summoner or nocturne first ? Only played persona 3 so far...
Guitar Hero do not start Nocturne lmao you'll wanna pull your hair out in only a few hours. If you have a 3DS I highly recommend SMT:Apocalypse. Nice place for beginners take my word. But if you don't have a 3DS I probably might recommend...Digital Devil Saga 1-2.
DDS1 is good but kinda slow (do not play the ported version, it's a terrible port but if you do cause that's all the access you have then you have been warn lol) plus once you beat DDS1 you're able to port over some data to DDS2 which runs 10x better than the DDS1 port.
Only then have you played either one, you'll be able to play Nocturne. The game is that painful
JeromeTelos lol ty for the tip...i hope they got good stories ...
Guitar Hero Digital Devil saga 1-2 has the best SMT story. Nocturne has an amazing story but you literally have to work for it. It's bullshit
@@JeromeTelos I started with Nocturne and loved it. Considering they just announced a port of the game to PS4 and Switch, it is probably a perfect opportunity to try it out.
WOW you did it! Once I saw Pixie could run out of MP (and thus not heal Demi-Fiend's team to full HP (Mediarahan) or remove debuffs (Dekunda)) I knew it was over. I didn't know enemies could run out of MP in that game. IIRC buffs and debuffs last the whole battle too right?
Its been a hot minute but I think so??
Jerome: GALE KEEP SLEEPING! GALE KEEP SLEEPING! GALEEEE KEEEEEP SPEEEPINGGGG! GALE KEEP DOING IT!
Gale: I do not comprehend :/
What's the song playing in the background?
1. Reason boss theme from nocturne.
2. Persona1 - pandora
What song is used at 19:11?
Ginyu’s transformation theme from DBZ
is demi-fiend harder than Satan. Cause i faced Satan and got wiped because i didn't do enough damage to him fast enough at the end. I miss counted my charges. i only used charged twice and i though i charged 3 times. ending in a wipe.
IMO, they're both up there in difficulty.
But I lean Demi-Fiend is harder just cause it REALLY relies on luck why Satan relies on calculations. Literal math
@@JeromeTelos you are right Satan only really hard if you don't prepare, you don't max out your charges and if you don't nuke him after he reach a certain amount of health. i have plenty of secret boss videos but when i lost to satan the first time i some how saved over my progression. using an emulator. so i can get to it again but its a grind. i was streaming it so i think i have to do like shiva the bosses after that. think i did the frost jack boss. on DD1 i have to play the hole game over lol.
Its not just null attack. Its any null skill except for null sleep and null critical. Resist skills are safe though.
Damn should have included what OST you used
I still wanna know too
Reason battle from Nocturne
What music did you use in this video?
Which one?
He’s even harder in smt v
They done it
They actually done it
Idk how but the mad men at atlus made one of the hardest jrpg bosses even HARDER
Not only is he harder to fight but also harder on the wallet this time too
Nah they found a way to cheese him since for some reason, Atlus made him suspectible to ailments. DDS version is the real painful deal.
Did you collect your prize in DDS2? Several things carry over between 1 and 2, and if memory serves beating Demifiend gives a ring equipment in part 2.
Yea, I beat all the SMT games that I could on Stream years ago.
Only things I can’t capture is my 3DS cause that requires mods so bump that
Now its a waiting game for them to port over the 3DS SMT games
@@JeromeTelos SJ, Devil summoner and IV are great. I'm not into Srpgs which is the only thing keeping me from doing the survivor games. I didn't bother with PQ or PQ2, and I wasn't a fan of apocalypse.
What I meant was that beating Demifiend nets you a ring in the second game. It seemed that you had done months of hiatus between some of the attempts from the type in the vid and had likely completed DDS2 by that point. I was wondering if you had restarted you DDS2 play through for no other purpose than to receive the ring you get as your prize (like I did).
"Fuck you demi-fiend"
**Bro casually takes zero damage**
Whats the name of the second theme that plays in the background after the months you go after first trying Demi-Fiend and then get Gaea rage'd?
If you're talking about the one at about 10 minutes, Pandora Theme from the PSP version of Persona 1.
@@espurrseyes42 thanks
Pandora's Theme from SMT: Persona I, you may be searching for?
Hard is a strong word for such things in JRPGs.
Bro I really hope that atlus will remaster dds and dds 2 sometime. This game is so good.