Lapped Hill Holds Up Schumacher and Lets Frentzen Through
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- Poor sportsmanship from Hill as he holds up Schumacher not for position but being lapped in a desperate attempt to hand the title to his old team Williams at the conclusion of the 1997 season.
arrows were 6 seconds off the pace in the first race, and by the end of the season were capable of finishing in the top 6. Quite a turn around
Tom Walkinshaw at the helm, so I would hate to think what they would find if they really investigated the car. Walkinshaw would have had Lawyers on the spot threatening to sue the FIA if they touched the car, that's how he rolled.
You don't go from midfielder to beating the 1997 Williams and Ferrari in a half year without a few "tickles" here and there.
a lot of it was down to tyre problems
I think Hill acted this way in order to take some kind of revenge on Schumacher rather than helping a team that dumped him a year earlier.
Yeah and he threw the 1995 title away because of it as well. Schumi always lived rent free in Hill's head. Hill was the first one to initiate a crash between each other btw. Back in 1993. Even before a title fight.
Imagine the hatred if it was the other way around. And the crying of the British commentators.
....Schumacher got his just deserts for his awful driving. The British media didn't have to do anything
@@zimbabwedarts "his awful driving" - hm?
@@maverick8697 yep. Cheating on 94, cheating in 97, ramming Frentzen off the track in Can 98. Not to mention all his other cheating in 94. He was a disgrace
@@maverick8697 SCHUMACHER crashed in the track walls in Australia in 1994, purely his error, he was leading 10 seconds. He was leading the race, while Damon is chasing him. Upon the next corner he blocked Damon's car, causing them to crash, both of them DNF; the only difference, is that by that race's end, Schumacher is world champion. He deliberately crashed Damon Hill to ensure that Damon Hill won't win, so that Schumacher himself will be the world champion. If SCHUMACHER didn't crashed into Damon, Damon would win the race, and he'll be world champion. Learn history first before judging.
@@aaronwestley3239 Poor, petty Hill, robbed by Schumacher. Any proof about Schumacher deliberately crashing into Hill?
Almost forgot to watch this today.
From a purely neutral point of view here, why wasn't Damon given blue flags to force him to let Schumacher through? From a purely personal point of view, there will never be anyone to replace the enthusiasm on the mic when it was Murray Walker holding it.
Was my thoughts too oO Imo this was clear a situation for the blue flag. I remember this race a bit but i was damn young at this time.
I think this is the incident that led to the blue flags being made mandatory in 1998
@@Adam-pu6jg The blue flag rule definitely existed long before this race. At least 1993 Australia.
Even if you conclude the 94 Adelaide incident was Schumacher’s fault, Hill more than got his own back at Silverstone the following year. This just tops it. The British media sadly were quiet on the latter two incidents and only focus on the 1994 one…
Don't forget that Hill already crashed into Schumacher before 1994, back in 1993. Yet Michael was painted as the bad guy, when it was Hill who kept having grudges against him since before they even fought for a title. 1994 Adelaide wasn't even Michael's fault either. Clear divebomb from Hill.
The awful truth is that Hill was a bad wheel to wheel racer. He proved that one final time with his constant crashes in 1999.
that rivalry made F1 so good. Always something to argue about
With Schumacher there are always a lot of things to argue about
Damon may have been deliberately holding up his then-arch nemesis, but there is no way he was trying to do Williams a favour. Why? Because thanks to them, he was sitting in an Arrows.
thanks to them he was world champion and not someone like Pedro Diniz
May have? What is your Iq?
Higher than your ability to apply fundamental context to a sentence. 👍
Love murrays attempt at a German accent. Lol
BEAUTIFUL DRIVING BY HILL
its dumb driving. only schumacher HATERS will say this.
F u
@@Sunotmy only Schumacher cheat fans will say this
@@diehard21000 cry more ;_;
@@Sunotmy Don't need to cry, karma sorted it out
As alonso would say “Karma”
Hill was and is a sore loser.
no u karma
@@jigglediggle29 Actualy, not really, I think he was spurred on by the hysteria a bit at the time, but speaks very highly of MS as a driver and a person otherwise, and has continued to do so to this day.
The sounds off those engines is glorious. On board with Schumacher it sounded brilliant.
"Damon Hill makes me sick"
😆😆✊🏻
Jim Clark said:" Lapped or not, you must overtake me (if you are able to)"
I dont think blue flags existed during the times of Jim Clark.
A part of me tells me Michael silently accepted this, if you consider an certain 1994 adelaide gp
Bullshit.
I think Silverstone 1995 was quite enough atonement
@@NotSteveCook Damon said that his move 1994 in Adelaide was a silly move! A maneuver like that was something he hid on a motorcycle, because nobody would try to close the door.
Frentzen has never accept the Michael supremacy in
F1 and here showed to all his anti sportsmanship..
@@NotSteveCook and Monza 1995.
Just desserts!
Some lovely comments, thanks everyone!
Reading all the comments below, I must be the only person who likes and rates both Schumacher and Hill.
Schumicheater
@@azeitonavelha8374 no seven times world champion. :)
@DeadbeatXT I take it you are referring to Irvine holding up Panis?? That was for several laps as far as i can remember, i may be wrong, but i think it was for a longer time than this...
Hahaha well done Damon, revenge is so sweet and he held Frentzen up for no time whatsoever. Those days were far better than now, they at least raced unlike now.
He had revenge Monza 1995 and Silverstone 95
schumacher still won the race. cry more loser
"revenge"... LOL
Damon ended his career in a hopelessly slow car, fighting for the third or fourth row, while Schumacher proceeded to win 5 more WC titles since then...
@@AnthonyWebber-fe1eu yep, and he lost another world championship in doing so ;)
@@Sunotmy was he your boyfriend, sweetheart
What goes around, comes around!!
Love it.
He was like "get him bro"
Surprising after the way williams treated Damon Hill I would of thought he would of held up Frentzen.
I don't think Hill really had any ill feelings towards Williams, Michael on the other hand
I think any Ill feeling towards Williams is dwarfed by his feelings for Michael.
Damon had no ill will towards Heinz-Harald, that must've overcome any anti-Williams feelings.... anything to stick it to Schumacher, lol
When it comes to Shumi, most drivers had more reason to want to fuck with him than anyone else on the grid.
Schumi was a legend but he wasn't above cheating to win. That's the one thing that I give Max over Schumi, Max doesnt care if he crashes but he doesnt just whack into people on purpose.
Would HAVE
Everyone complains about Schumachers unfairness. Well, this is just an example of how other drivers aren't much better then him. Seems to me as those complaining is motivated by envy.
Schumacher got schumachered by Hill. haha
@TheD2JBug You are joking about Adelaide 94 right?
lol if anyone knows the history behind these two you will know full well why he held him up.
I would do the same too!
MrAckers75 Schumacher was very ruthless yes, and took it too far a couple of times fighting for his own titles. But he was never childish or stupid enough to interfere with somebody elses championship like hill was doing here.
Yeah because you're also a piece of shit like Hill
Rossi the Bossi so crashing into some one to get the title is fine but blocking some one is much worse
@ Track Talk Ehm, I suggest you go look back 2012 Brazil when Alonso and Vettel were fighting for the championship. When it came to Alonso, Schumi didnt just let him pass, but when Vettel came from behind, he happily gave way for his countryman.....
Also Schumi did much worse than Hill ever did, so we can just end this discussion right there.
Indeed...
94 was a race incident, Hill tried to pass him from the inside, he gave schumacher no space , that was ruled out as racing incident....Schumacher was disqualified in 97 i guess
i love Schumacher but he has many times been an assh towards Hill and they had quite a history togheter with crashes and provocations ... so its no surprise that Hill did what he did . i would have done it too
Jean .valjean I'd have taken the fucker out and ruined his championship. Just to see how he likes it.
Schuhmacher crashed into Hill once of where you could argue that it was on purpose. Hill has fucked him over like three times after that as a revenge.
Chris Purolover he cost him the championship that one crash was worth a million fuck overs imo
Hill is a bitter loser, nothing else.
Michael became a victim of the british media that really chased him everywhere and dented his image as much as they can, and all of this happened bcoz of his dominance over damon at that time and even ever after against mostly britsh teams, it became evident that Michael is more like having a phobia from the brits and being around them, as he never accepted to drive for a british teams after benetton. he is human and he has intellect as much as everyone of us, his reaction to the F1 british media is the only way this could fold out.
haha i love that even 13 years on, people still cry about it. it happened, leave it at that and enjoy the moment.
That Williams is one of the most dominant cars ever and the arrows wasnt that bad.
AWESOME!!!
well done
This was Japan and not Jerez the actual last race (conclusion) of 1997.
Yamaha engine!!! man, I forgot they were into this
1:58 ROFL Murray Walker you're hilarious.
@chapmana22 0:52 but it's covered by the timescreen
@blainyrules but if he was a brit you would love him with all your heart
And this was the man criticising Max Verstappens driving in 2021, talking about driving standards 😂😂😂
*Applause*
@Westwoooooooood Maybe in adelaide... But in italy and silverstone in 1995 hits him for frustation... Damon was a good driver, but not enough to be competetitive with schumi
bahahahha...poor Schumi...attaboy, Damon!!
Where were the blue flags? Seeing as Hill held up Schumacher for an entire lap, that should've at least been some form of penalty.
Back then drives didn't have to dive out of the way when they were being lapped. It was the responsibility of the driver lapping to get past. Drivers are spoiled these days, lapping used to be an art now it's just blue flags and get off the road.
@JONICRACHATLEITAO I agree about 97 after seeing it again that Shumacher was to blame. As for 94 when Shumacher became champion for the first time I still don't agree that Shumacher was totally to blame, he went off the road and damaged his car then came back on track, Shumacher then had to take the corner, if only Hill had waited a few more corners then Hill would have won.
who crashed at 1:44?
@TBCZiggo yeah i noticed it after @Morthelion mentioned it. I'll say that it is not exactly obvious to a racer who is trying to focus on a difficult corner up ahead...
Hill would've loved that . Frentzen hit like I'm sure
Well it happened In shanghai last year almost 50 times and if i remember Suzuka is a hard track 2 pass and.
@sean19922k7 Schumacher's first GP win in Belgium had nothing to do with Hill. He was testing for Williams in '92, and wasn't even racing that day Schumacher won.
@SilEightySEK I do see your point... Although, Hakkinen and McLaren were pretty damn good too, and Shumi was beating them
@chapmana22 Look again at 0:52, Its fairly short but quite clear to him.
people act like damon deserved to be in the title fight in 1994 and he was robbed by Schumacher, in reality he needed his teammate to die then the FIA to ban Schumacher for multiple races for something very small specifically to allow him to catch up
Hill deserved to be taken out of that race and people should feel sorry for Schumacher because the FIA forced him to win the title that way instead of by 20pts+
Hill won every race Michael was deservedly banned from in that Williams deathtrap except for the one where the Japanese lad ran into the Englishman. he beat Coulthard as soundly as Schumie beat much the less talented Jos aka maxpoppa. Hill was careful and got points in the car until the upgrade. it didn't hurt Hill that Benetton didn't care about the second driver or they would have kept Brundle until Alesi and his big Austrian friend came along in 1996. Schumachers ban coincided nicely with Hill not really having a car for 5 races.
@@adampetten5349 lol you are the type of person I was referring to, you even act like the Williams was not the best car in 1994
it didn't hurt hill that Benetton didn't care about the second driver, lol of course it didn't hurt hill, im going to put that on the list of things that helped hill in 1994
*best car
*teammate dying
*over the hill and rookie replacement teammates
*Schumacher banned for tiny violation, if it happened today it wouldn't even be a stop go
*Benetton not caring about 2nd car so hill didn't have another car to worry about
@@MrRodzilla Teammate dying would put dual pressure on a man groomed to be elite second driver to legends. One: knowing car is unsafe; but also whispers in his own mind that he is not his father's son. Mansell was still a powerful driver. Jos Verstappen eventually became mediocre but was terrible in 1994. Tiny Violation?🤣😂🤣😂
Only to Kool Aid drinkers. Hill still beat drivers like Alesi and Berger to Win races when Schumacher was banned. Katayama helped Michael with his own incompetence.
Schumi banned 3 races and stil won that counts
Wrong dude. Schumacher wasn't DQ'd and he did win the championship. It was the end of 94 season.
As for this video, Hill had no place getting involved with this and should have just moved out of the way.
Was a little bit funny though knowing the history between them. :D
@terga1 Oh right so if Senna rams someone of the road to win the championship its not cheating because he said so before hand but if schumi does it its cheating. Thank you for proving the point that people are just butthurt of Schumi destroying every record there is in F1.
Why not?
I didn't see this race. loved the video. exactly what Schumacher deserved.
Hill is dirty and not so skillful driver. MOnza, and Silverstone in 95 and Adelaide 94. Even with a damage car, Hill with that louge on Schumacher he would hit him.
I misheard that as Demon, not Damon..
@SilEightySEK True, but even if we ignore the cheating, he had some damn good races and a lot of talent
Someday Alonso will be holding up Petrov like this. ;)
would michael have done the same to damon? we will never know because michael never was in a poor situation like damon in this case :D
Dirty german 94,97
Remember Villeneuve , 1997
Mind you the car Infront should have right of way and hill was the car behind in adelaide
Well done Damon!!!
This was true f1
Why am I not surprised, considering what they went through in 1994? Still, I would think Damon would get into trouble with the stewards for not letting Michael through right away when he should do.
What's the problem with 1994? A mature man would not have a problem with 1994, like Prost and Senna after 1989 + 1990. But Hill ... oh boy, like a little girl.
Japanese Grand Prix - 1997
@Davetheravepow HAHA who won the race
@keithmoon1947 you make it sound like he smashed into coulthard on purpose. Schumi was dominating that race, driving brilliantly in the difficult conditions. he built up an enormous lead and crashing into a backmarker who was being lapped was certainly not the plan. the visibility was very bad and it was an unfortunate incident. i can understand his frustration afterwards especialy when that win could have made the difference in the championship. oh and btw dont forget he was disqualified in 97
What's Murray doing trying a Japanese / German accent?!
kkkkkkkkkkkkk 1994 vibes
Live by the sword …..
@curlyafroninja if cheating is legendary.
senna, prost, mansell and piquet are real legends
Suzuka '97
Some real team orders 🤣
Whats that old phrase? Turn about is fair play.
@keithmoon1947 I never said Schumacher didnt cheat,but this revealed Hill of any right to complain about what Schumacher did him and puts him into the same league of "cheaters". Look at Villeneuve - he always gave Schumacher a hard fight,but never did something like this...
I could not see any blue flags being waved by the marshals.
@chapmana22 in spain, irvine received a penalty almost immediately after a blue flag.
Damon what who is it?
You are too young to remember Damon Hill :)
Wyatt 889 thank you. Come on dude 😂
Bit of a dick move from Hill, but utterly fair considering what Schumi did to him in 94. Met Hill a couple of months ago, and he is a supremely nice bloke.
maybe that's why he couldn't drive?
@@numsig Hungary 1997 says otherwise.
Hill is a complete trash and disappointment compared to Schumacher. Schumacher is a 7 world champion.
@@justrandomguy1288 Hill should be a 2 time world chamption if Shumi hadn't rammed him off the track. So that would be Hill 2 time & Shumi 6 time.
No one is disputing that Schumacher is a better driver, but that doesn't mean Hill isn't a great one, its just Schumacher was exceptional.
Honestly if you think Hill can't drive, watch Hungary 1997.
@@ceirwan Hill would have been undeserved champion 1994. Schumacher was light years better that season. He got disqualified for 3 races, the reasons were absolutely ridiculous. And of course Hill won all of them. Without that, the season would have been a piece of cake for schumacher
0:52 xD
Lol this is hilarious
imagine if it was vettel in Schumacher's place. he would be so angry
@Enri1989
It wasn't intentional, just overoptimistic. Why would he intentionally knock himself and schumi out of a race when he needs to gain points?
hahaha true, that will shtter their Morale lol nice one :D thnx
@heavyaby003 Fairplay to Damon really got the moral high ground, hes the better man, but it has to be admitted and it hurts me to say this, Schumacher was always the better driver.
he took out hill and was disqualified, he dint get the title, and that was a genuine mistake, even Hill said that it wasn't Michael's fault.
@neoduke007
When did schumacher crash into hill 3 times??
And this didn`t bite him in the ass he still won the race !!
yeah I hate blue flags, this was brilliant.
i dont see hill holding up shumacher. shumi still won the race right?
There was a blue flag before the hairpin at 53s, probably more, we're looking at the cars while the flags are being shown in front of them.
Good work Damon, he must have been the only person to give Michael a taste of his own medicine.
You don't have a clue, knucklehead.
@TheD2JBug
No, I didn't call it a racing incident. I said if you ignore the fact that Schumacher had just driven into a wall it could be considered a racing incident (although even then the onus is on Schumacher). Given his car was damaged, the move was plain dirty. I don't base this judgment on Schumacher's subsequent shady behavior either - I watched the event live and felt the same way about it then. You seem to have a serious chip on your shoulder about Hill.
Pay back...
Wow, very original!
Schumacher is a 7 world champion. Hill is one time. Hill is complete trash and failure.
@Mattaroony hill had the best car in 1993, 1994, 1995 and 1996
thats why frank williams fired him
@hhJACK92 Good one, Jack :D
the cars sound so much nicer in these days
Blue flags, blue flags (cit.)
@MartinJamesStanley
no , I'm not . Hill tred a low percentage move and paid the price.
The popular myth is just a myth
@TheD2JBug
Way to have no idea about anything.
but didn't in 97 vileuve win the championship?