Volvo Plug-In Hybrids Get A Huge Upgrade! I Drive The Facelift XC60 T8 For The First Time (450hp)
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Kyle is driving a pre-production 450hp PHEV Volvo midsize SUV, the XC60 T8, joined with Klas Olsson, Manager - Battery System Design of Volvo Car Group, in Brussels, Belgium! This car will be entering series production in a few weeks and the updates to the new PHEV system are strong. In this video Kyle compares his thoughts with the previous generation T8 powertrain compared with the new udpated 2022 T8 system with the 18.8kWh (gross) battery pack.
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0:00 - Hello & Welcome
0:44 - Exterior & Interior Tour / Specs
4:20 - Setup / Upgrades Over Previous T8
7:26 - Low Speed / One Pedal Driving
11:19 - Highway Driving
17:13 - Hybrid Mode
19:55 - Power Mode / Acceleration
21:37 - Final Thoughts
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You all know I'm a huge Volvo fan and with the new updated T8 drivetrain coming to the US sometime early next year, this makes these cars even more enticing! While Volvo is gunning for ultra safety, they aren't forgetting the Swede speed enthusiasts and will even put this drivetrain in the refreshed V60 T8 Polestar which is truly one of my favorite daily drivers. While I'm all for BEVs becoming the solution, I actually do wonder how a PHEV would fit into my life. Do you think I should run one for 6 months to a year and see how much driving I actually do on electric vs combustion? This is a topic I've been very excited to cover.
It might be something to get range anxious family into the EV-esqe fold... though I could be tempted by a V60XC PHEV
My problem with driving the Honda Clarity PHEV was that I was annoyed whenever the engine had to come one. I hated every gallon of gas I used. Even my all time mph was 70 which is not bad. The Honda had an impressive all EV range. However two years ago I thought there was no choice to go long distance without having a Tesla. Now with Electrify America the reason for a PHEV is going down with every new station. In two years the US will have a similar Charger network like Germany or Norway.
I always loved SAAB, VOLKSWAGEN'S and VOLVOS . Simple , straight forward ,form follows function logical engineering. I especially like the cars from 1980s 90s in DIESEL engine .
Some people have charging at home and a public charging network nearby that means BEVs work, but odds are a PHEV is the best choice for like 80% of people today.
I'd like to see you driving many of the PHEVs and BEVs that you review for 1-3 months and then reporting on your experience with them over weeks and months. That would be very valuable, yes. I'd rather see you do shorter periods of time and more vehicles, than 6-12 months each with fewer vehciels. (if that's possible)
Volvo design is beautiful. Simple, premium, and pleasing.
I appreciate these in depth review formats 👍
Great video. We’ve owned several Volvos and really like how the XC60 T8 has evolved.
Great to see this next gen T8 and would definitely consider it as an interim step on the way to an all-EV. Excellent video, very helpful, terrific detail.
Great review Kyle! Thank you very much for this in depth review. This spec is the one that i am exactly looking for my next company car (Thunder Gery is perfect colour for R-Design trim :))
Almost bought the "2022 version 1" of this car till I saw your video a few weeks ago. Now my Extended Range XC 60 should come in April! Thanks for saving the day!! Great video!
I largely bought my 2022.5 XC60 T8 ER because of this video, but the 2022.0 pre-ER version was never going to be bought by me. I test drove two or three of them, and their power band sucks in comparison -- lethargic and really pathetic all-electric range (only about half the range of an ER, from my test drives).
The pure electric tribe will be angry but I used to drive a volt and loved it. Now I have a Tesla but my wife still drives a v60 polestar. Daily ev driving and the assistance of gas on longer drives or to get more power is a great thing . When I go on a long drive alone I take our Tesla but when I take the family I take the Volvo. Why? Well a driver needs a break on long trips. The passengers have all day to watch Netflix or CZcams on their phone. Stops for charging are inconvenient for them.
I work at Volvo and T8 drivetrain is far and away my favorite one to drive. Even more than the pure EVs because I like the complexity lol.
This is an order of magnitude better than any other Volvo XC60 PHEV video I have seen ! You have a new subscriber ! I love that it was done in Belgium where my wife if from. I recognize the Airport parking lot :-) Even though this is a couple years old, the drive train described is still the same one as I will be getting in my 2024 that I have special ordered and currently being built in Sweden. I saw you at the Cybertruck launch event as well, and a lot of great commentary there as well. The EV community thanks you for your service !
I totally agree, why no upgrade to the internal charger?!? My current XC60 T8 already has enough electric range for our daily driving but once you've made good use of that hybrid drivetrain and taken a long journey to another city I want to be able to drive around in that city on pure electricity again. Sadly most hotels don't offer charging so can't charge over night. So can only plug in at public chargers that might be in the correct place for what we are doing. Those stops are rarely longer than an hour or two which unfortunately only generates 7-14 miles of real life range with this measly 3.7kW charger. A built in 11kW charger would generate 20-40miles in the same time. Which would cover pretty much all city driving in a day. I don't mind burning petrol on the highway as much.
And why remove the drive mode wheel?!? Its one of the few physical buttons in our Volvo and we use it pretty much every time we drive off in the car. I don't want to have to mess around in the touchscreen even more. That touchscreen only interface is my least favourite part of our current Volvo. Don't force us to use it even more and remove another button. I have tested the XC40 P8 and found the google system slightly better but still you can't really use it in town or on twisty country roads as it requires way too much attention from the driver. But I can always turn on the massage seats to the setting I like in two seconds regardless of traffic situation. Because that is physical buttons you can operate without looking at them. Also please let us use the blanked out button under the screen (the one that changes drive modes in the regular XC40) as a customisable button where I could turn on and off Battery Hold.
Otherwise the overhaul to the electric drivetrain had me go and enquire at a Volvo dealer about trading in my current one and order this new one to carry me over until the EV fast charging networks gets expanded enough around my part of the world so I can go full EV smoothly. I did ask if the integrated charger had been upgraded to which he waffeled something about it depends on where you charge but eventually when pushed for a figure he told me it was upgraded to 11kW which I now know is a lie. Probably why he hasn't come back to me answering some other questions about configurating the new car where I put it in writing that it was due to the upgraded charger I was interested in getting a new one.
Really clear, user frendly video. thanx
Good to see this PHEV get the improvements that make it a buy for those in this market.
I just wish they included fast charging it would be cool if you get somewhere and want to top up while you drive around town.
Thanks for this very informative review.
I just decided to get one in Feb 2022 when it will be available in my country
Yep. PHEVs are getting more interesting. LandRover (Defender) has already added DC charging capability, and (not only because of legislation, at least in Europe) the pure electric range will reach 100km (62mi) on most of the new offerings.
Nice to see Volvo doing lots of right things!
Great review and great to hear from an engineer from Volvo. Really glad i cancelled my old V60 order and moved it over to this new updated model as the improvements seem to definitely be worth it
You will have way better range, my granddad just bought the 2021 model, but he only had like 25km of range realistically. Thats was disappointing for me. Now lets hope it will be around 50km
I got 33 km pure electric range from a 2018 xc60 t8 here in Finland going 80km/h when it was -18° centigrade. The xc60 is heavier, less aerodynamic and has a smaller battery capacity (10,4 kwh compared to 11,6kwh) so I don't know what you're on about with the 25 km range. At summer I got 53 km of electric range on the same route.
I'm a very contented owner of the 2021 XC60 T8 Recharge, and found your in depth video of the upcoming upgrade to be extremely interesting. Instead of purchasing my 2021 T8 when it comes off lease I will seriously consider leasing the updated T8 at that time. Two questions: 1. how does braking/deacceleration of one pedal driving differ from currently using adaptive cruise control (ACC) to brake the car when driving in PURE or HYBRID modes (using only the electric motor)? My understanding was that DCC also employs regenerative braking (kinetic energy) and only makes use of the hydraulic brakes in rare instances. ACC also keeps the car stationary once full stop has been achieved on a flat roadway, so I'd assumed that hydraulic brakes were engaged at that time. 2. I currently use a level 2 (220v/20amp) charger for the 2021 T8 (11.2 kwh total capacity) because the battery will only accept a 3.6 kwh charge (approximately 3 hrs. for maximum charging). Your video mentions the updated battery's 18.8 kwh total capacity battery pack. Will the new battery also only accept up to 3.3 kwh charging (5-6 hours to maximum charge) or will it be capable of faster than 3.3 kwh charging? Any additional information would be greatly appreciated!
Great video! Love to see how the T8 engine has been improved! I didn’t like how Volvo hid the real exhausts, got rid of the paddle shifters, and drive mode selector (that wheel was super cool!) but this bump in power is serious. Those Polestar Engineered versions are going to be MONSTERS with this new power train and better competition to the M340i etc while also acting as a mid point for those of us who don’t want to go full electric yet. Especially on the lighter weight S60 and V60 T8 Polestar Engineered versions.
Google interface has it’s bugs but I’m sure those will be worked out soon!
The engine was really only improved by the deletion of the supercharger. It's the electric motors' extra power and extra battery range, plus the smoothness of the ICE working with electric, that makes this a masterpiece. I love how Volvo hid the exhaust pipes; no Volvos ever had good-looking exhaust pipes (they always have looked really cheap, especially the dual pipes; look at Porsches and Corvettes if you want to see the only way that exhaust pipes should ever be shown). Yes, paddle shifters would be good for shifting ICE gears or for regen changes (or drive-mode changes, as there is no physical drive-mode switch now).
Theysignificantly improved the transmission changes. Now I want this car. Surely on my shortlist.
*Me reading the description:* Damnit, Kyle!
I just know Alyssa wrote that description.
I got 5,2-5,3 0-100 on my stopwatch. That is very impressive for wet road and no break boost. 4,9 declared should be achievable.
So good looking and love that color !
It is wery dificult to find reliable information on the new 2022 XC60. This is one of wery few who give us the facts. Thank you :-)
Very nice video!
I'd love to see a V90 Cross Country with this powertrain in the U.S. in the next couple years.
I think the one-pedal driving on the Opel Ampera (Chevy Volt) were pretty good.
Wife and I were planning to purchase a new xc60 phev. So this car(with new engine) will make to USA next year? If so I'm just wondering if we should wait for the new engine xc60 phev.
Kyle, you do some great work on your channel, but I think if you could go the extra step and answer some of your followers comments below. For example what is the range I’m that you experienced during your test drive?
I totally agree here, as other CZcamsr car reviewers including Autogefühl do take the time to read and respond. I can understand how time-consuming it can be to read so many comments and comment on even just a few of them, but it really can add to the value of the videos, and after all, these guys all apparently do this for a living. Kyle also seems to have people that work with him, so he's not a solo act. As a bare minimum, I suggest that CZcams car reviewers have a checklist of the most important things that they should cover in every review (if they don't want to read and respond to viewer comments). And, yes, things like range, along with more details on the maps in any given vehicle, some visibility information out the rear window, and how much glare is reduced or can be reduced by sunroofs are things that should be included in any review.
Superb video, made so by the conversation that you have together, with lots of really good information here -- more than in practically any other EV video I've ever seen concerning just battery and power issues. I do have one big question for you: you say that the drive modes are Pure, Power, Hybrid, Off-Road, and AWD -- but does that mean that there's no Charge function (in which you can charge up the battery with the ICE)? Both Toyota and Porsche have Charge modes in their PHEVs (from personal ownership experience), and it's a very useful feature to have when you're on trips where you can't charge via an electrical outlet but you want to drive in EV mode in various low-speed situations. I thought that Volvo PHEVs had this feature also, but maybe not? I'm also sad to see the stupid oil droplet still in the instrument panel; you didn't provide a close-up of the instrument panel as you drove, so it's hard to see what else is there, but is there or is there not some graphical depiction of how much battery is being used vs. how much regeneration is being captured (as in other brands' PHEVs)? This is a very useful feature to have. Also, you indicate that there's an electric motor between the drive shaft and the transmission (if I heard that right); is there a way to drive in either Off-Road mode or AWD mode in electric only? Or is there zero electric power going to the front axle?
I bought this same car (different color, but R-Design) in June 2023, so I've had it over three months now and can answer some of my own questions above. This review by Kyle was the huge impetus that got me to seriously looking at, and eventually special-ordering, my own XC60 T8 ER, and I've been very happy with it so far (despite the infotainment system, which gets a "D" grade in my mind). There is a Charge function that you can use to charge the battery while driving. You can see regen on the right semi-circle in the instrument panel, but only when in "Pure" (all-electric) or Hybrid modes -- not in Power or AWD modes when the engine is constantly on, which is unfortunate. Also, you can see electric vs. ICE power in Pure and Hybrid modes but not in Power or AWD modes (when all you see is a semi-circular tachometer given in RPMs). Both of these are unfortunate omissions (I'd like to see regen and full ICE tach all the time, as is possible in Porsche PHEVs, and in diagram form in Toyota PHEVs). But I'm consistently getting 40 miles of all-electric range in warm weather in local driving (i.e., speeds < 45 mph) -- perhaps 30 miles at 65-70 mph. The one-pedal driving is amazingly good, and I keep it in one-pedal now even when at highway speeds; you get lots of extra regen and extra range with one-pedal driving, it seems to me. The driving aspects of this car are so good that that helps to counter the horrendously bad screens (both the infotainment screen and the instrument-panel screen, the latter of which lacks many basic things such as full-time odometer, tire pressure in psi, phone display of any kind, 12-volt-battery level, engine/coolant level, diagram showing amount of power going to each wheel (this kind of diagram is present in both Porsche and Toyota PHEVs, as are almost all the other things I just listed). Of course, this car is missing a spare wheel/tire, which is bad. And I wish that Volvo would offer all-metal roofs as standard, lower the MSRP, and then charge a ton to people who want the option of a glass roof.
Dear Kyle,
Supercharger was great for engine sound when speeding. Could you please confirm what was your feeling about engine sound ? Is it still so nice (even without supercharger) ? Thank you in advance.
Who cares about the damn engine sound!!! It's not "muscle cars" 1950s era anymore. Most people (especially if they have a dog) find the silly exhaust sound irritating. Listen to the 1800 W system instead. Pretty soon, all the exhaust noise fanatics will die off because it is such a silly thing. Just like people who wouldn't buy quiet vaccuum cleaners. The exhaust sound has no relationship to speed anymore.
If Volvo put in the new 204hp C40/XC40 P8 rear electric motor they'd boost power up to 514hp. That would be fun! Recharge T10 model?
Hope to see real test for the 18.8KWh can drive how many km?
This is a damn positive and nice video to watch the same day as ordering a new Volvo V60 T6 Inscription!
Stoked to see that its such an upgrade! 🥳
The new XC60 models have a lot of problems with the Android system and there is no information yet when they will be solved
crazy to think, in pure electric mode, the 2016-2019 chevy volt still has by far, the most range at about 50....
Is this single pedal ride coming to the V60 model as well
I do like the XC60, but not the R-design. The Inscription is better suited. The biggest downside is the price. It has gone up so much it is now above budget.
Any thoughts on whether a driver would ever be caught off guard by the change in driving dynamics when shifting from RWD (battery only) to AWD with all 4 wheels being driven? Is this just the same effect as any typical vehicle engaging additional wheels on slip? In winter driving in Pure mode if there's wheel slip, does it jump to Hybrid mode to start driving the front wheels as well for additional traction?
two weeks later and no reply... I think that Kyle doesn't follow up on comments to his videos that are older than a few days, most unfortunately. But maybe he'll take the time to read these comments before again reviewing this vehicle in the US, and answering some important questions here. It's too bad that Volvo doesn't provide a lot more information up front and leaves it to CZcams reviewers like Kyle to provide more in-depth info. Many of these questions are make-or-break for a lot of us who are trying to decide between, say, PHEVs of different brands. For example, it sounds like you can only keep the car in EV ("Pure") mode if it's in "B", from what they were saying -- though it is not at all clear; if that's true -- that you can only keep the ICE from coming on with one-pedal driving (== B, by definition??), that's very unfortunate for those of us who don't really like one-pedal driving and would like to accelerate rapidly in "D" (non-one-pedal) mode without the ICE coming on. Or, perhaps I totally misunderstood what they were saying...
I have a question: Is it ok to charge it from 0-100 or it is best to use it between 20 and 80 SoC (State of Charge) because it is a Li--ion battery??? I am asking because there is a 3KWh buffer from the factory.
Does this mean that supercharger is/will be gone from the Volvo model line if the base 4 cyl turbo makes over 300+ hp?
Yes, also deleted on T6.
Not to brag, but I have been doing one pedal driving for three years now in my 2019 Fusion Energi PHEV....
Honestly, the V90 Recharge Inscription is the best Volvo to buy. Period.
This update is not on the US dealer's radar, at least not here in Southern California. When I asked about it, the typically very knowledgable senior sales consultant had no idea this is coming to the US market, and of course there's nothing on Volvo USAs website giving any inkling of this significant change to the model's capabilities
There are a couple of issues. The UI leaves much to ask for, it’s impossible to tweak it to you liking. The digital gauge cluster is useless as you can’t tweak it. There’s no possibility for hi def audio input which means the bowers and Wilkins speakers get tanked with lossy content. Sensus system had Audio through USB. Also according to what I know the driver assist simply shuts down if you’re incapacitated instead of coming to a complete stop, which this car’s competition can accomplish.
No, the cars with the google infotainment system and the new ADAS will come to a complete emergency stop if the driver is incapacitated when pilot assist is engaged. Simply check out his video on the new C40 where he demonstrates that feature.
@@felixderagon4758 Yes I saw it now. It’s a great addition.
What is the limitation on audio transmitted over bluetooth?
@@rzu7120 When you have really a really high end speaker system such as the Bowers Wilkins system the audio source may limit the performance of the speakers. Furthermore bad sources will sound worse on high end speaker systems because you can hear the imperfections more. It’s a bit like watching a VHS on an old little TV. It looks okay. But if you watch the same VHS on a big screen 4k tv then the resolution of the VHS isn’t good enough and you will get a blurry image. To get the most out of high end speakers you need a lossless streaming service e.g. Tidal master or Apple Music. Tidal master has a bitrate of up to 9216 kbps whilst Spotify “high quality” is only 320kbps. In addition you have to deliver the audio to the sound system without losing the resolution. Bluetooth will degrade the resolution to around 300kbps whilst USB will preserve the full resolution of the audio file. Since the new OS on Volvo doesn’t support music through USB, this becomes a big problem as you have high end speakers that you can’t input music to properly. Hopefully Spotify will release high def subscription later this year and perhaps the Spotify app in the OS will support high def streaming.
@@rzu7120 Bluetooth and hi-def are not words commonly used in the same sentence when it comes to audio quality. Not to sound snobbish because my kid frequently streams his music into the car via iPhone but if one were to plop over USD $3000 for an audio upgrade over the standard OEM stuff Volvo installs then it can matter esp. as it relates to the sound signature that one is expecting. With MP3 and other lossy formats it's no big deal but it's another think with people who run their music in FLAC and DSD.
Would your foot not get tired during long drives using 1 foot operation? Or is that just for town driving?
On long highway drives you should use cruise control to give your foot a rest. In city driving, especially stop and go traffic, one pedal driving can be less tiring than constantly switching your foot from gas to brake.
sad surprise - more batteries in central console mean you can't have 4-zone AC in xc60 PHEV :(
as owners of xc60 can we change our battery from 12 to 18.8? and what would be the cost?
no you cannot, at least not now, maybe in the future.
If you’re going to talk about a PHEV vehicle then please provide details about Full Charge time, quick charge time, range battery only, range battery+gasoline, range gas only. It’s why we’re here.
you can't DC charge a PHEV... only 120- and 240-volt charging. PHEVs generally charge at around 3 miles per hour and 1.2-1.5 kWh per hour -- across all brands -- so you can figure it out yourself. With a usable 15 kWh, this particular vehicle should charge from empty to full at 120 volts in about 12 hours, and at 240 volts in 3-5 hours.
@@panameradan6860 I own a 2016 Chevy Volt and it’ll full charge in 4 to 5 hours on a level 2 240v charger. 11 to 12 hours on a 120v. Either way no quick charge about it. The future must be DC Charging and who can get to a full charge will put themselves ahead. This “…we can get an 80% charge in 40 minutes doesn’t really cut it on a long road trip where every stop needs to be a full charge which takes much longer for that last 20%, or they need to work on their range so the 80% really counts.
What was the reason for having a supercharger and how is that function replaced by not having a supercharger now?
Volvo says "Superchargers deliver low-end torque and response." The electric motor has stronger power now, so the supercharger is not as important. Removing it helps reduce cost and improve reliability.
Today on Between Two Ferns, we drive a Volvo.
Kyle, you could have given us an estimate of the all electric range
Does this "start" in pure mode? Or does it start in another mode when you push engine start and then you have to cycle to pure(which turns off the gas engine)?
in the car's settings, there's an option to have the car start in pure mode. The car from this video is pre-production and doesn't have the feature, but if you look at reviews from March 2022, you will see it.
@@fbp452 Yes, my XC60 T8 ER, which was built in April 2022, has the feature to always start in Pure mode, which I keep on always because that's why you buy a PHEV.
Look at that , PHEVs getting better and cleaner. And so many people * cough * BEV cultists * cough * said it couldn't be done...
I wish Ford would have a simulare drive pack availabe in their SMAX/GALAXY. .
Please tell me the Godawful crystal transmission lever is gone for the Inscription T8?
I realize this video is a pre-production but noticed the crystal was gone and I’m jubilantly rejoicing that my soon-to-build will NOT have that horrendous crystal shifter
90% sure this video features the R Design which doesn’t have crystal shifter.
@@fbp452 yes... the Inscription apparently retains it
It has the crystal shifter, which I like. I currently have an XC-90 Inscription, my new 2023 XC-60 will be called an Ultimate in the USA and will have the crystal.
So so so frustrating that they ditched the mode selector dial, exhaust outlets and the paddles. Especially in the S60 and V60 which are supposed to be sporty vehicles. Love the upgraded power and range, but these little things are honeslty fighting me from ordering a 2023 v60 T8 PE. I feel like the 2020 model year will be the more special car, guess time will tell.
I love the invisible exhaust pipes -- which I think are ugly and look absurd in the Volvos that have them (exhaust pipes only look good on cars like Porsches and Corvettes, seriously!). But I'd like paddle shifters and a drive-mode dial on the steering wheel, for sure. There also is no phone button on the steering wheel, so you have to reach over to your phone to hang up a call, or the phone or touch screen to make a call -- stupid and unsafe. The Volvo T8s pre-ER really suck -- horrible power band, horrible all-electric driving power and range, not worth it at all. But these ER versions are superb, as Kyle says in this video.
Quick question. What is the stated range on the new 18.8kwh version of the xc60.
Ive been looking everywhere and im getting answers from 19miles up to 51miles. Even Volvo in my country gave me 2 different answers.
Ive seen Volvo International's website states 79kms electric only range but they dont even have an official spec sheet for the new car. Every media outlet is stating lower than this for the new 450bhp cars. Perhaps they are taking stats from the old 11kwh battery?
anyway.... if anyone know please enlighten me.
motortrend article from Oct 2021 says 32 miles. 19 miles is the range of the older 11.6kwh battery.
Volvo had a UK press release where they said 56 miles, but doesn't specify which car. I would guess that is the range of the S60 Recharge. Hope that helps.
@@fbp452 Yes, I think that your first two sentences are correct. No way that the S60 (or any Volvo PHEV) will go 51 miles on all-electric. I test-drove the older S90 and XC60 PHEVs to focus on all-electric range, and they got nearly identical results in my careful testing (yes, the S60 is smaller than the S90, but not by much).
What is the electric only range?
The Volvo UK press release says 56 miles, but states that range figures vary per car model.
QQ: I have a 2022 T8 Recharge XC60 on order in the US. Am I getting this version with the upgraded battery and 450 hp?
Depends on production week. After week 47: yes.
I would confirm. If not, it truly may be worth canceling and waiting on this significant upgrade.
Dealers here in the US are telling me that the "Extended Range" XC60 T8 (as they are calling it) will start arriving late February and March 2022... It'll be listed on the Monroney label, which will give 18.8 kWh for the battery pack and a turbocharger but no supercharger (plus the upgraded hp and torque numbers). The older version will have a supercharger still.
In my mind the plug in hybrids are losing the necessity in the US with Electrify America ramping up their network. Just replaced my Honda Clarity PHEV with a XV40 EV. Did you ask when the electric V60 comes out?
Good luck in any 500+ miles roundtrip, especially if you have passengers. EV still has the problem of having to recharge every 2 hours and being unsafe (due to lack of chargers) between 9PM to 7 am. Even under best condition, the best one can hope for is 200 miles of range in 49 minutes of recharging. Even for the 300+ miles range EVs you have to realize that you will still need to stop every 2 hours to recharge because the rate of charge decreases once it is less than 1/2 filled. EV is great for people who don't drive more than 100 miles roundtrip, otherwise, it's slower than horse buggy.
20:46 you will detect half a smirk
what is the pure electric range?
36 miles in the USA
Will this be a 2023 Model in the US?
For sure the upgraded battery will be on MY23 in USA. Rumor is the USA MY22s will get it early next year, as Kyle mentioned in the video. No official announcement from Volvo concerning the US market. Volvo press release from September says "The updated Recharge models are on sale in the UK now, with first customer deliveries expected in Q1 2022."
Would you prefer this XC60 or the new BMW X3 ?
Great paid commercials! I'm loving it!
Will this be the 2023 model year?
Answering myself: Actually its being called the 2022 mid cycle refresh. All custom orders of xc60 phev at usa volvo dealership will be this new battery configuration. Expected delivery date is early April for orders placed in December. Pricing is not confirmed yet but expected to be 3-4k higher.
You need to make aware of which markets is this upgraded model sold. I’m here in Middle East GCC country and the Volvo dealer here doesn’t even know about the upgrade
they made it more powerful ??! xD
What’s the all electric range?!?
78 km
Never gonna get the 78km for sure, i think its around 50km, older model was 25 i know because my granddad has one
@@MrSepox I got 53 km of pure electric range from a 2018 xc60 t8 in the summer here in Finland going about 80km/h, so I don't know what you're on about with the 25 km range.
@@matsuzy14 dude ur talking about going 80 km/h, which is an ideal speed... im talking about general daily use.
@@MrSepox It's interesting because volvo claim otherwise for the pure mode in their manual. They say that 50km/h is the ideal speed for the electric motor. But nevertheless you surely can get the electric range down to 25km if you smash the throttle at every traffic light.
Forget the hybrids, when are they going to get a fully electric out?
Next year according to Volvo for the XC90. This all-new, next-gen BEV will not be called an XC90, however. The xc60 has to wait until probably late 2025/2026 before its replacement come out.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Indeed. The new XC90 is likely to be called the XC100.
@@AndrewLumsden No. It won't be called XC anything. Volvo is dropping the XC/S/V naming convention. They said they will call the car a "name" but haven't said what name it will be.
They already have 2 EVs out, but you are thinking XC60 size or bigger?
@@christianolsen9781 I currently have a V70 and need the same boot space without having to go SUV. I test drove an EV6 the other day which has a similar load capacity but the infotainment system is not very user friendly.
so there have no supercharge on xc60 in 2022?
for MY2022.0, they do; for this "Extended Range" version (MY2022.5), they will not (i.e., turbocharger only)
What kind of battery is used? Should not they use LFP in PHEVs? LFP batteries handle cycles well, including 0-100% and vice-versa. A bit heavier, but that does not really matter with PHEVs, since the relatively small capacity.
I have an 2022 XC90 Recharge on order that arrives in a few weeks and I can’t get a straight answer from my dealer about whether the upgraded battery will be coming for the 2022 XC90 Recharge. Does anybody have any idea? Is it a mid-model year upgrade or will it be on the first 2022 models to arrive at the dealers?
My dealer in MN also said bigger battery XC90 would arrive March sometime and be an additional $3,000. Why would Volvo make a change a few months after the initial 2022 model year arrives? Also if it is true that it is $3000 more, I can’t imagine the additional range would ever make up for that price increase. Then again, the tax credit would likely go up to $7,500 and save an additional $2,000…
I have a fresh 2022 XC90 model and it still has the old battery in it. max range is 21 miles. super disappointed.
Upgrade is for MY22.5, starting production week 47 in 2021.
@@ScoobyFermentation Dealerships in the Boston (MA) area are telling me that the "Extended Range" XC60 T8 will start arriving in late February or March 2022; I'm surprised that they don't just make those MY2023, because this way there will be two hugely different versions of XC60 T8 for MY2022, meaning very confusing to buyers (many of whom won't know to wait for the newer version). I hadn't heard $3k extra, but that does not surprise me. I'd pay the extra $3k for the convenience of being able to drive more EV miles in my daily commuting; savings in fuel cost isn't the issue (vs. the $3k extra up-front cost) -- rather, the convenience of not going to gas stations nearly as much plus saving wear-and-tear on the ICE is near-priceless. And you'd get the $7500 federal-tax credit if the EV portion of the BBB Act doesn't pass before you get yours (after it passes, with wording currently as in the House-passed version, means that all PHEVs like this will get a maximum credit of only $4000, not the current $7500).
Why was USB drive stick audio taken away out of interest?
I don't think "taken away" is the right phrase. It just doesn't exist yet, they have to program the software for it for the new AAOS. No USB audio for polestar or XC40 recharge, which both have the AAOS. They just didn't prioritize it since most people use bluetooth, and the car comes built-in with streaming music. Some 3rd party programmer made an app called AudioWagon that works, but is open beta. I assume standard USB audio is coming at the same time as they get Apple Carplay, as they both work as data over USB.
@@fbp452 Sorry not to use the right phrase but you understand what I am referring to. USB audio is very relevant in that you used to be able to load up a USB drive with your own music in high quality. Using Bluetooth is an optional method but doesn't allow high quality files.Volvo have apparently quoted a customer in the UK that USB audio isn't going to be implemented so I guess that's been taken away. Hopefully loading high quality audio files on an iPhone will be playable though thats a bit of a shame to have to use the phone. Also a shame not to be able to use the B&W system like that. Has the equaliser disappeared too? I see the battery capacity increase is now available as it seems that was implemented in September for the Europe market. Its a good looking car. Thanks for the tip re AudioWagon.
Why has all the new Volvo cars a 180 km/h speedlimit? No other brand has this…..I wonder if it can be removed
It's a new Volvo policy announced a couple of years ago. They're known as a top safety brand. There's no need to ever go 180 km/hr unless you're on the Autobahn in Germany, so it's a reasonable limit. They may remove the limit for police cars (some countries like Sweden use Volvos for police cars).
Is the 90 getting this upgrade?
I'm waiting for this answer as well! I've become obsessed with the S90 T8 and I am holding out for this update.
In Europe all 60 and 90 cluster PHEV’s, so think so too for US. And XC60 + S90/V90 will get One Pedal Drive.
This improved power electric motor will be better when it's total power is at least 50%-60% of total ICE power, and even better when it can produce up to 90% of ICE power so that it can reflect a true transfer of power from front to rear wheels like normal SUVs do transferring up to 90% to rear wheels with traction when fronts are slipping.
For now, it's an improvement in the right direction, but not good enough! Add more horses to the electric motor, then we shall talk again.
While I in theory agree, when you really need more E power?
@@mho0 when wanting to remain in Pure mode and in need of that power and when the front wheel pull is slipping
@@1NG_ OK. yeah that happens in slippery conditions like in show/ice.
Also torq steering would be less, which in certain conditions is a small problem (at least with older models).
While I also think that 40/60 (front/rear) would be more nice. Smaller gas engine and bigger electric motor, it would required bigger batteries -(like 30kwh or such to get 250hp epower) > quite a bit of redesign -> most likely not financially doable at this point of time.
@@mho0 But T8 has no spare wheel, and the space between suspension compressors in the spare wheel area, can be used up to extend the battery. Yes, it'll be a little heavier but not as bad and since Volvo has learned to compress/compact battery cells, I think it's doable without changing much of the design. At least, let them consider it in the next new model we are eagerly awaiting to see. Though I'm not a fan of 180Km/h speed limit. 200km/h at least :-)
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Any info on range?
motortrend article from Oct 2021 says XC60 Recharge will be 32 miles electric only range.
The window sticker on the 2023 I’m taking delivery of next week says 36 miles EV range
Might be noted that here in Sweden(and Europe)where we are moving fast towards EV only cars, we are quite worried about Volvo falling behind fast on Electric only cars.
Once the XC90 replacement is out, then the next year a smaller SUV is out, then an xc60 replacement by 2025. It's just taking a long time for Volvo to get the xc90 replacement out. On the Polestar side, the Polestar 3 seems to be ready to test and will be out in 2022/2023, then the Polestar 4 then the Polestar 5. If the SPA2 Volvo and Polestars are great, then the PMA versions, then range should improve, charging speeds, and Volvo is competitive.
well, they're doing better than GM and Toyota right now (neither of which has a BEV for sale as of February 2022)...
@@benjaminsmith2287 Yes, the Polestar 3, which is about to be formally announced now (Oct. 2022), will presumably have 800-volt architecture (so really fast DC charging, unlike the current Polestar and Volvo BEVs). But Volvo will continue to have problems selling BEVs because of the horrible Google OS vertical-screen infotainment system (should be horizontal screen, which allows many more things to be shown simultaneously) and because they've moved too many things that should be in physical buttons/dials into the touch screen (audio, climate, phone, drive mode). People really want buttons and dials to do many things more easily and safely while actually driving.
So what’s the estimate on the all electric range?!?!?
The Volvo UK press release says 56 miles, but states that range figures vary per car model.
36 miles in the USA
I passed on an XC90 Recharge a few months ago because the battery takes too long to recharge from AC. I forget the exact number but when you plug it in, it only recharges at the rate of 1-2 miles of range per charging hour. That seems silly. The electric range is about 25 miles, so with the average suburban, errand running lifestyle, being able to recharge the battery from empty to full in less than an hour would be ideal. I'd want to use it in the morning, come home for a bit, charge it for a while, and have 25 new EV miles to use for the afternoon. The Audi Q5 does exactly that. C'mon Volvo - give us a more usable PEV.
Is this model improving on that charge rate! That seems crazy!
I think it's more like 3-4 miles per hour in charging time. That seems to be pretty standard at 120 volts for PHEVs generally (it's certainly true for the two non-Volvo PHEVs that we have had).
In EU (=240V) with old battery it is about 2.5h from 0 to full if you use 16A charger. New long range I guess about 4.5h. So definitely much more than 1-2 miles/h ... but I guess you are from US with low 110V...
6:08 I don't really like being pulled off at max speed 😐
Will the new car have DC fast charging????
you know I have to decide about my new car and... I ws thinking at XC60 Hybrid but I've read, in official Volvo forum, about HUGE amount of problems from Google integration, especially from failed maps auto-upgrade with ALL the systems inside the car becoming unusable, just a black big hole in the middle of the cockpit... no climate control... no map... etc. Even the Android integration is not well working... is it because of chip problems or other reason it is not important... What are we talking here about? A car in the range of more then 70.000 euros with unacceptable problems. I would like to choose this but... and by the way, please less B.S. ... the OTA are ONLY for maps and minus upgrade, for major upgrade, like critical firmware upgrade, you have to go in any case at Volvo assistance, OTA is not reliable enoght
I recently noticed this glitch as well on another video, it's not very encouraging seeing all the displays just shut down while the vehicle was still rolling down the road. At 10:10 - czcams.com/video/ks24MbhKtHg/video.html&lc=
Doesn't sound that much different than my Polestar trim
I keep reading about erad failures......
I HAVE AN XC60 T8 plugin 2020
HOPE IT WILL ARRIVE
TO ISRAEL
PHEV VERSION. The singular most disappointing aspect of the charge system is it inability to set a charge timer either through the car or app. So unless you have a smart home charger people like me on an economy 7 tariff need to be nocturnal to benefit from off peak charging. Volvo UK offer no solution. A retrograde step from earlier models and spoiling my enjoyment of a brand new car!
Limited to 112mph! Wtf
only matters on the Autobahn in Germany... nowhere else...
I’m noticing some comments have been censored.
CZcams does automatic censorship but we don’t actively censor comments unless they’re spam or contain personal attacks - OoS
This car is 5 to 10k more than the XC40 Recharge full EV. I'm not sure I would pay that extra money for a half assed hybrid type system. Thanks for the review though.
Good news, more Volvos with Android means they will improve the one for the XC 40 Recharge faster like implementing Apple Car play. Also I don’t think Android is ready for the masses. XC 40 Recharge drivers are probably all early adopters.
It's a shame that these are so brutally unreliable
So you were actually filming yourself driving over 30 km/h more than allowed as you were accelerating. It's probably better to pixelate the speed meter before you get a ticket based on that. Belive me, such things happen very fast.
Depends on how serious legal system you have. A real court wouldn’t accept the car’s speedometer as valid proof of which speed it’s travelling. So then they would have to start guessing what speed you were going at which point they will dismiss the case.
No law-enforcement agency has the time or interest in running down CZcams video violations of the law, unless somebody is hurt or physical damage is caused...
GELVO Chinese car, no premium....
Out of curiosity, what is then premium?
Hybrids suck!!!!!
why do I do this to myself I want all the EVs and now this phev 🤧😪🥲😂
Maybe I missed it, but how does the 60% increase in battery power increase range? Also 60%? So more like 30 miles in EV only mode?
motortrend article from Oct 2021 says XC60 Recharge will be 32 miles electric only range.