Phoenix Trinity Hero Grip Install - Staccato P 2011 / Springfield Prodigy / Nighthawk
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- Phoenix Trinity Hero Grip Installation on Staccato P.
Disclaimer: No firearm sales. I take no responsibility for your installation. Product should be installed by a qualified gunsmith.
I am an FFL / Gunsmith at Asgard Arms in Crete, IL. USPSA Open Division Master and NROI Range officer as well as an NRA RSO.
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Order your Hero Grip at Phoenix Trinity
ptrinity.com/product/hero-grip/
Description:
The hero grip is the ultimate upgrade for your 1911 double stack.
Designed to fit other manufacturers double stack frames (Nighthawk, Staccato, Prodigy) without having to mar the finish on your existing grip safety! Made from certified aerospace grade 7075 aluminum plate, the Hero Grip, boasts the durability to handle with polymer grips can’t. 
Modeled after our NEW H-PRO grip, the Hero Grip texture gives the best possible positive retention no matter the conditions. It is smooth when rubbed along skin and won’t snag or catch on your clothing when drawing your gun. With the highest level of machining available the hero grip is a true upgrade option without blending required. The Hero grip also allows you to choose between keeping your grip safety functional or making it non-functioning by simply changing the mainspring housing. Plus, our grips do NOT require proprietary mounted magwells.
At Phoenix Trinity we ensure that our customers have the ability to make their own choices. Don’t wait any longer! The Hero grip is the ultimate upgrade that you need for every double stack gun you own!
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I've been working on 1911's for 40 years, a quick tip. I go to Wal-Mart and buy 100 count bags of bamboo teriyaki skewers, they're only 2 or 3 dollars and 100 will last a LONG time. They're pointed on one end and flat on the other, they make a great tool for moving the sear/disconnector, leaf spring, etc around and can't do any damage. What they're best for is depressing the thumb safety plunger to put the thumb safety back in, they will never mar your finish. I never use a metal tool to push the plunger in, you'll scratch the finish and it's always visible. When you work on someone's hugely expensive custom 1911 you always take every precaution never to leave a mark.
Great tip. I also have a delrin pin that I use also. But most of the guns I work on are competition guns and usually more beat up than anything I could potentially mar on the guns. 😊
@@tacticalbert
Please help me understand the following, I can't find anything on this question...
I lost my Grip Frame Screw on my Girsan Witness 2311 (they call it a Trigger Bushing and screw)... what does it do, what is it for?
I lost mine while shooting and didn't realize it until a day or two later.
It doesn't look like it does anything, just a sleeve with a male/female screw that doesn't screw into anything but itself. Is it still safe to shoot without that screw?
Thanks in advance, love your detailed information you provide on your channel!
@@gfunk1775 It just holds the grip to the frame. the front ones don't do much. but here are some extra parts: ccgunworks.com/grip-bushing-kit/
@tacticalbert Thanks so much for the response. Thanks for the tip on where to get them as well. EAA responded, (they needed proof of purchase and a Srl No.), but they haven't provided any kind of update since then. Thanks again.
There’s a plastic screwdriver for this that cost 5$ and will never need to be replaced
I know this is an old video but I appreciate your detail and my grip and trigger went in flawlessly 💯💯💯 Thanks man!
Glad it helped
Great video. I'm a student at Sonoran Desert Institute for gunsmithing and learned more about 2011s from this than any of my classes.
Yes, there are a couple of things I show that SDI doesn’t teach. Wait till you see what’s needed to install SVI triggers. Most of your learning is going to come from experience when you start your career. Good luck to you!
SDI is mostly a scam tbh, it exists to get government education money from vets.
How do you like the school so far?
It was good while I was deployed. Once home I lost interest. I did 3 semesters and had a good time. Once I was getting into required courses for how to run a gun shop I lost interest. I'm just doing this for fun and to grow experience.@@cheyenneobregon184
AMAZING video!!
Thank you for uploading ..
That was a great and detailed video man.. you did a fantastic job explaining everything for anyone to understand!
Thanks! Feel free to share
Bro, I don’t know how to thank you enough…this video helped me sooooooo much when taking my Staccato P apart! Thanks again for the great video!
Thank you so much for creating such detailed video. I don't have Hero grip but I am using this video as a full tutorial for 2011 grip module takedown.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Thank you very much for the bery detailed video.
Extremely good video. You can actually see everything you're doing and you explained everything well. Thank you, please don’t ever take this down. I might need it again and if anyone I know needs it I'll share it. Thanks again.
That had to be the most detailed & informative “how to video” I’ve ever seen. Amazing job with the fine details & technique. Watch a lot of 2011 videos but this by far the best and should be shared and viewed by all double stack enthusiasts. Hope to see move videos!
Thank you. I tried to be thorough.
Very informative video, I have learned a lot from it. I subscribed so keep them videos coming.
Excellent video brother. Much appreciated.
Thank you. Well laid out video with details you can use...
I just watched this video for the second time in a month, from start to finish lol. This is got to be the best video on the 2011 grip install/ parts install that I've seen it out there. Nice leisurely pace, detailed showing all the angles, showing all the details, showing all the little tricks. Bravo. I can definitely do this now. Thank you
Glad I was able to help pass along the knowledge.
Excellent step by step disassembly. I like that you explain why you're doing what you're doing. Most videos they breeze through it and disassemble so fast you have to go back and watch several times to understand why. I am wanting grip work on my C2 and this video made me feel more confident about removing the grip module. Thanks
That grip is fantastic looking.
Nice.
New Staccato owner here.
This is a perfect video for me; I can't truly be comfortable carrying anything that I can't break down like this.
Thanks for the great video.
Great video!
Thank you so much!!!I worked on installing a new mainspring housing last night for hours. I kept getting hammer follow. Your video solved it. Keeping the trigger pulled with the hammer all the way down solved it. Thanks again.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of videos out there or gunsmiths overlook this small detail that helps get the main spring housing installed
well done, highly detailed, thanks man!
Mine came in last week, I have it installed. It looks and feels awesome
That grip is really good looking.
Great video. 👍🏻
Great video! Thanks!
Hey man , you saved my butt lol , great video and guide. I was able to put my LFA Apollo back together and working again lol 💪😎👍
The magazine button is a plus. I have three Icarus Precision modules where I had to purchase those buttons separately.
Excellent video.. Vrey well filmed and explained.. Ive been working on gins for over 25 years just never 19/2011 and with this vid i feel i could take it on np...
Well besides all the other vids i watched on parts that need custom fitting (filing) main safties, n sometimes trigger fitting (which for me u covered enough to understand...
Thanks n now ill sub👍
I love the look of the Hero and Villian grips. Just with they were polymer instead of metal.
very nice video bro.thank you
Great video realize it is a bit old great instructions, what size are the Allen wrenches for the trigger guard screws?
GREAT VIDEO!! i am new to 2011s and Staccato and this vid makes me comfortable with how everything works and goes together. Thank You!!!
Also, Did you only switch because the Hero is Alum or is it a little smaller too??
What’s up Albert 🔥🔥🔥
Here he is! The man himself. The one who made this all possible.
Thank
You for this video. Does that grip module use the C2 120mm 16rd mags?
Great video. Definitely one of the best how-to videos. Just a question, did you need to remove the safeties? I just did a new grip install on one of my 2011’s and I didn’t need to remove the thumb safeties in order to change the grip.
It helps to get everything installed correctly under the grip safety. And you can’t take that off unless you take off the thumb safeties.
I want the dragon scale grip!
This video was extremely informative, thank you. I ordered a PT Hero grip and swapped it onto my Staccato XC and the grip safety would no longer engage. Looking at the internals, it looks like the grip safety isn't making contact with the trigger bow. Any idea where to go from here? My gunsmith couldn't figure it out either.
A couple of things have to happen here. If you adjusted your pretravel too far back, your grip safety will not engage. So reset your pretravel on the trigger bow. Next is to make sure you have the right most finger on the sear spring calibrated (bent) outward a bit to give the grip safety some tension.
Can you feel the difference when shooting with the new grip? Any shooting footage?
Great video. Two things, wish you would have compared the weight of both grips. And second you can mention that the sear and disconnector doesn’t have to be removed in order to remove the frame from the grip.
Correct. Sear and disconnector didn’t have to be removed but I wanted to show people a full disassembly of the frame and grip. I have my slide sent out for an optic cut. It wouldn’t be hard to weigh them now.
Hero grip is 4.6oz and the staccato / sti grip is ~2.84oz (depending on which grip you have).
great video. What type of gas pedal is that? apologies if you already mentioned
Shooting sports innovations nitro fin 2.0
Great video. Could you tell me which grip safety you have? Been looking at replacing the square one on my staccatos. Thanks!
Stock staccato grip safety
Is this a more narrow grip than what comes stock on the staccato?
Amazing video. I'm sure you already know this, but you don't have to remove the safeties, grip safety, sear, etc to change the grip. I've gotten to where I can change a grip in just a few minutes since you don't really have to remove all those things.
Yes I am well aware. I did this video to show a basic (complete) tear down in case anyone wanted to see my process.
What’s needed to take just the grip off? Obviously pins holding the frame, mainspring housing and trigger. Anything else?
Man i never new 1911/2011 had so many screws .
thank you very much for this video. its going to be a lifesaver for me when i change my trigger. is the hero grip slimmer than the original gen 2 staccato grip? short fingers :)
Hero isn’t significantly slimmer. Just barely but it’s not a noticeable difference.
Appreciate it!
I’m thinking of putting the same grip on my XC. What trigger model did you install? Did you have to file anything to make the trigger fit?
Put the short cheely on but I think they’ve been out of stock forever. Just get the PT short trigger. No filing on either.
Doesn't look grippy enough what happened to the evo grip ?
Im gonna probably get a prodigy for my next gun ive been shooting glocks but i do have a safe queen that is a kimber ultra carry 45 and the ultra carry 380 but i really have wanted to shoot a 2011 but i have know one i know who has one seems like you can upgrade prodigy the same as all the other ones i would love something from the US but hey you some times have to take it ware you can get it .
Hi, you mentioned new generation Staccato magwells, can you tell me who sells them. All I have been able to find is gen 1 magwells, thanks.
There’s really just one gen. They didnt have more generations. It was said in error. What I meant was they had different designs back in the day when they were STI compared to the designs they have now on staccatos
Are you able to slide lock with the Nitro Fin? I have one installed on my Prodigy but can't make it go to slide lock. Any comments? Thanks.
Yes. I can slide lock with my nitrofin on all my 2011’s. I don’t have a prodigy at my store to test. You might want to ask shooting sports innovations for that answer.
@@tacticalbert thank you for your prompt reply.
Can I buy your old grip you changed out?
Hold your new grip up to a light..and see where the light passes through it..you shouldn't see light in those areas..you're welcome
What kind of holster do you use with the gas pedal?
Red Hill Tactical makes holsters for 2011’s with a nitrofin.
Are you able to use a Safariland holster with the Nitro Fin?
No. Most likely not.
Thank you.
This came up on my feed the same day that I bought a hero grip for my 2011... Is somebody spying on me? I have not searched anywhere about putting it on yet. Just ordered it today.... And ordered it from an email from Phoenix Trinity. No Google searches or anything. This is too damn weird....
I’ve been watching you the entire time.
What holster can you use that's compatible with that pedal?
Redhilltactical is one of several brands that accommodate the nitrofin
For shooters with smaller hands. How is the size compared to the replaced grip?
It’s actually about the same. I have small hands too
Also if you’re ever thinking about selling that 2019 Staccato P. I’m looking
I have a feeling this one is a keeper. But you’ll never know.
What’s the weight difference with the Hero and the plastic grip?
Thanks
Hero grip is 4.6oz. The staccato / sti grips are around ~2.84oz depending on which grip you have.
Do you find the Hero grip to be smaller than the Staccato grip?
I think it all depends on the grip… the dragon scale looking sti grip I had on mine seems a little thicker than the current gen2 staccato grips that come on current guns. The hero grip is close to the current staccato grips.
@@tacticalbert Have you tried cheely grips? How do they compare in size to Staccato or hero?
Yes I have owned and installed cheely e2(?) grips on my sti open guns. Those are a little wider.
Do you know if this would fit a LFA Apollo 11?
If the Apollo normally takes STI grips or staccato grips, then I don’t see why not. This is something you might want to ask LFA. I have had an Apollo come through my store, and it looked like a standard grip.
@@tacticalbert Thanks 🙏😎👍
Did you special order it in black finish. Mine was ordered when they first came out and it was unfinished raw aluminum? Also do you know if the machine works low pro magwell fits?
They finished it in black directly from PT. Yes the machinewerks low pro should fit but like I said in the video, that might be one that looks like it doesn’t line up until you give it a couple of whacks with a rubber mallet from front-to-back. It’s tight but should line up.
Will it work with the C2 16 round mags?
Nope
how's the slide to frame fit at this point?
It’s not bad. Fitment is pretty good with no major gaps. It’s definitely an upgrade from the factory staccato that’s for sure.
UM K ala south park!! Dump the tab bending and use a Red Dirt trigger!!
I check the website everyday and it’s always out of stock. 😢
Back in stock again. Check often or sign up for their emails.
Price?
$500-525...
New drinking game, take a shot every time he says "mmk"
Don’t watch then
Dudes wearing gloves. 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah, he is, what’s wrong with that? 2011s are typically pretty wet with oil. Whenever I work on mine I wear gloves. I don’t want oil all over my hands.
You can make this installation really easy by just installing the main spring housing first, then installing grip safety and thumb safety.
I have a method to my madness
You do realize the grip safety has to go under the main spring housing right?