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I noticed this too. If I disagreed with someone on the right, I was wrong. If I disagreed with someone on the left, I was a terrible, pathetic person who needed to be censored.
Because the left identifies as the group that “truly cares about people.” So naturally if you disagree with them, you’re simultaneously “not caring about people.”
My grandfather is a conservative fundamentalist Christian, and in my opinion, undiagnosed autistic. He sees the world in black and white, no middles. He can't seem to comprehend that difference in perspective exists.
I think both ends of the political spectrum can be wild, when they are followed by wild people. I myself am very conservative, but in his mind I'm just another tree-hugging hippy. Both sides of politics are equally capable of thinking in boxes, and being close minded.
I'm anthropologically a Kennedy Liberal...ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. The left have completely gone off the rails
@@Shambagawhat do you mean by "there's nothing equivalent to that from the left" ?
Didn't you read what the original comment said? When you disagree with the left you get cancelled. The people on the left are basically saying "if you don't agree with me then you deserve to die"
Perhaps those mentioned on the Left & Right were not schooled on how to think. Generational brainwashing by academia, politics and media have been successful in dividing us.
I never saw myself as either a conservative or a liberal. It wasn’t until I started voicing my opinions that society automatically placed me in the conservative box. I find this to be true for many people because I’ve seen a lot of people who’ve written about similar experiences.
Conservative and Liberal, Left or Right, are purposefully false dialectics. The only paradigm that matters is the Individual vs the Collective.
I was conservative, but kinda drifted towards the middle/left in some issues. Still would be classified as conservative which is interesting with the plenty of disagreements I have. Politics is oddly treated as black and white when it's really not. Rather it's black and white, and everywhere in between.
You're also considered a "terrorist" and "white supremacist" if you dare disagree with them on anything. You're automatically a heretic and they must burn you at the stake, in the name of love and tolerance. 🤪🙃
Amen.
Absolutely. But, for me, I used to be way more left. Like many, “the left left me.”
Freedom of speech is freedom to offend, as there is nothing more free than being able to voice your opinions in spite of the system wanting you to shut up.
RFK J. 24
TELS.
GAB.... AS VP
The problem, as I see it, too, too many people don't know how to still themselves...know how to truly listen. For any discussion to have worth and synergy, there has to be the open willingness to listen to other ideas. Otherwise, the participants are only hearing their own respective voices and nothing else.
I agree to a point. Intending hate, fear, and manipulation will never lead to a strong culture. Free speech is like individual cells in a human body interacting with each other. You’re free to express anything that won’t harm the whole body, but of course there’s cancer cells whose ‘speech’ does nothing but kill the patient. Consistent poisonous speech is death to any cultural organization.
Someone recently wrote to me that he thinks freedom means the right to get rid of someone who who is considered a menace. He used it in the context of your home or business as he said it's part of the US Constitution. I suppose that's why they popped off Jesus.
Correct. Anyone claiming anything they don't like is "hate speech" is essentially saying "i have such a monopoly on morals that I can decide what you can and can't say, and you have no say in that. Your morals are invalid and mine are superior" and where does that get you?
"Walking on eggshells" is basically what it feels like to be a modern man.
Especially in the workplace. Straight, white, conservative males are up against weaponized HR departments.
Your toxic masculinity is showing. 😉
DON"T!!! Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
Meanwhile my best friend saying and posting the most outlandish shit known to man
I'm a woman and please don't feel that way. We need our men. Stay strong ❤
I've worked both in private sector and public sector. I've experienced big corporate culture as well as government culture. This video is 100% accurate. The culture has gone mental. Pretty pathetic actually.
Social engineering, by the deep state to keep people focused on the trivial whilst they undermine their freedoms.
It's almost like when you give power to idiots, that things become idiotic.
Until we rise up, as directed by Jefferson in the preamble of the Declaration, and "...replace it with one that will..." This is fixable if We the People" seriously enough want it to be fixed. As an observer of behavior, I sadly have to say, people seem to love bitching about, more than stopping to think how to fix it, let alone willing to fix it.
It's not so much pathetic as it is frightening. So many companies and organizations are adopting DEIB departments in order to give the workforce the warm fuzzies that their opinions will be heard and that they will be respected and welcomed as a vital part of the organization. These soon evolve into the same restrictive barriers and chains which are mentioned here which suppress creativity, personal freedom and free expression. Anyone outside of the LGBTQ+ cabal and the climate change alarmists are ferreted out, labeled, and segregated from the rest of the workforce, which accomplishes the exact opposite from what the DEIB department was designed to do. These excluded employees are labelled as dangerous and unwelcomed for not fitting into the new "inclusive" values of the company, and eventually asked to leave.
@@haydenwayne3710 People are sad cowards.
I'm an ascetic hippy and this woke cult drives me crazy.
I resonate a lot with what Jordan said in the beginning of this video, I never expected to be grouped together and to be able to talk better with conservatives than with those who call themselves liberals.
Liberals today are socialists and communists who want to destroy the free market of ideas and economies.
@meg2844 Much better and stable than the brain dead moronic crap the left is swimming in with their pathetic ideology
Oh the irony! I've had to watch what I say when around Christians my entire life! My older brother's a Reverend and entire family very Religious.
They'll flat out tell you you're going to burn in H for eternity if you say the wrong thing. I wouldn't pat myself on the back so much about your new friends JP.
Welcome to reality.
You've nailed it there, my standpoint entirely. I feel alienate from the liberal people I associate with and it scares me how that they can't/won't see Woke for the manipulative and destructive force that it is.
You are what birthed the left. They came from people like you. Not conservatives.
Even if I don't agree with everything he says, I love how driven and motivated Peterson is. How boring would the world be without people like him? He's beautiful.
He's an adult in the room. Highly educated, AND someone who has seriously proven that he cares!
Amen! This is a clear example of personal contact and dialogue, not the two-dimensional ell phone which has captured and destroyed an entire generation
What's life without passion?
your comment is unequivocally right
ikr!!
Just remember that as much as the culture war is a broad fight against wokeness, it is also an individual fight to maintain integrity and to do the right thing when other people are watching, even when it is not easy to tell the truth.
AMEN. If we become just nega-them, we have lost our way.
@@jladdyost exactly. It should be a subversion of their politics via the high road instead of an all out war on the low road, because far too often when we fight on the low road we are consumed by falling rocks
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who is in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
@@haydenwayne3710 Truth, compassion, and resolve are all very powerful tools. Someone who hears the truth without ever having heard it before often can be swayed with logic, someone who feels compassion for the first time often can be swayed with emotion, and for those who can be swayed by neither can be overcome with resolve.
Amen!
Carl Jung said "People don't have ideas; ideas have people."
1000000% I’ve told this people and they look at me crazy.
We are living in an era of cultural psychosis (woke culture), which Jung called "mass psychosis".
Yes, if their unconscious and lack perception.
@@JasmineDaisy111 maybe they should ask "where did that idea get you?"
Yes. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
Remember being a teen in the 80's, we sat in parks with our friends, went roller skating, had all kinds of opinions on everything. Now, there are only 2 options for a teen, (wake up and immediately tell your brain to not think for yourself) . Or wear an invisible militant mask, and set about canceling everyone. What a sad sorry state of affairs for our young people to be in.
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who is in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
Human contact is everything. Virtual??? You might as well be dead
@@haydenwayne3710 Problem is, the people with the solutions are not the ones in charge. For that, you have to discover who the men behind the curtains are.
@@haydenwayne3710 Depends on the person. Some people like me, gave up on human interaction a while back. I became a loner, and never been happier.
I'm on the same boat as JP. I'm not a conservative person. I'm very much open and accepting. But ideologically and metaphysically there's just truths and things that are productive and virtuous. These are traditional values and ways of living. It's better for everyone, including the outcasts, if done in a balanced way.
Which is why you are now categorized as a "Far-Right Conservative"
Either you obey the Cult or you become their enemy (they'll call you a Right Wing Christian Conservative extremist regardless of what you really are). We just don't share the same dictionary with them anymore.
I feel the exact same
im generally curious - what do you mean with traditional values being productive and virtuous? i feel like just now do people get a chance to behave accordingly with their true selves. How would traditional values in practice be better for everyone when historically it has never been the case? Despite many flaws with current social system (like the raising stratification) it has literally never been better for the masses (both materialistic and moral wise). I am talking about the western world ofc
although i have not experienced communism myself, i too am from a post soviet country so those ideas are close and ever surrounding the debate. Capitalism indeed makes people "richer" but it obviously has its limits, which are taking shape right now - westerners can enjoy the riches of capitalism at the sake of slave labour across the globe, which sooner or later will be cut short (climate change and mass exploitation of the earth might play a huge role - mass climate migrations are about to start). What's more the distribution of wealth is getting more and more unequal, proving that the rich get richer, but it does not neccesary mean that the poor get their piece of the cake (even on national scale, not to mention worldwide). Long story short - global capitalism does not balance itself, despite what theoretics assumed for years.
This being said, i had the idea that we were talking more about cultural changes, not economical ones, I am all for personal freedom of expression, based on tolerance and i think that conservative values only benefit the majority that wont stand out - and the core of democracy is to follow the majority, but consider the minority (otherwise it would be tyranny of the many)
"We have to stop consuming our culture, we have to create culture. Don't watch TV, don't read magazines, create your own road show. If you're worried about Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton or somebody else, you're disempowered, you're giving it all away" - Terence McKenna
You can't really foster a genuine relationship with someone unless you can speak to them without the feeling of being muzzled, otherwise it's just acting. If you can't tell a friend what you truly think without a filter, they aren't a real friend.
I'm a reformed anarchist, this whole cultural/political flip is humbling for those of us who have noticed
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who is in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
How does one get to anarchy, out of curiosity? The lack of control feels the same as excess of control imo.
Reformed anarchist? I set myself on fire every day
@@SkylearJ Two reasons. In anarchy, you aren't punished for being strong. Even if there is someone stronger than you, you had a chance.
Second reason it becomes appealing: You see the hypocrisy in all the current systems or you see that well-intended systems are not achieving what they are supposed to. You get frustrated and just say, "fuck it."
@@SkylearJstart reading murray rothbard's view on t@xation is how it began for me
I grew up under Bush telling us criticizing him was "supporting the terrorists." No. Eveyone has the right to speak their mind. So when the left started telling me I couldn't speak out on issues unless I had the right skin and sexuality, I was equally repulsed.
*"We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us."*
- Vladimir Lenin
...and know at the demonic seeds he DID sow and all the subsequent pain and suffering he unleashed. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
On an individual level - I find it super weird that someone does or doesn’t act a certain way, or commit a certain deed because it might be seen as “left” or “right”.
Slavery comes in many forms
Rephrase it as right or wrong and maybe you'll understand it better.
I love rainbows and I hate the fact that the Alphabet People are trying to steal it! It belongs to God! Amen!
@@7th_CAV_Trooper Nobody with a triple digit IQ would think in binary like that.
@WalterHildahl rainbow's are light interacting refracting water and creating the full (human) visual colour spectrum. It's really nothing divine. It can be done other ways. It's physics. So, I respect your deeply held views but the way you express them, getting angry about people using 'rainbow' colours, is futile and miserable and must be very frustrating for you. If you follow the Bible, aren't you supposed to be enlightened? Shouldn't you pity the godless and pray for them? Or is this something you like to lord over people that annoy you when it suits you?
Spot on!!!! When I was eleven, I campaigned for John Fitzgerald Kennedy and remarkably got to shake his hand. My family were Liberals...Kennedy Liberals. I have not changed one iota of my philosophy, not one...and am now considered an arch conservative.
Are you going to vote for RFK? I'm pretty thrilled to have the opportunity to vote for a Kennedy liberal!
I hate to say it, but none of the great politicians of the past would be considered liberal OR conservative by today's standards. Leaning in one direction is fine, but if you find yourself nearly 100% in line with either the left or right orthodoxy as it is defined in today's world, then you have changed and you're part of the problem.
@kevincassidy7233 I'd argue no individual voter 100% falls in line with either party.
@@kevincassidy7233 Not so sure about that...
I'd absolutely agree. Nothing , as it were, it 100%. Politics is politics. Science is science. I prefer the latter. Thank you for reaching out! My best to you.
My grandparents played their own musical items at home in the 1920's.
I was born in 1973.
Very few people play their own instruments at home now, it was a family thing pre-1940's.
Sick of music from the 2000's onwards, I took up the harmonica.
For a small musical item its helped me emotionally, physically and mentally.
And still does.
I just have to use my breathe..... And I'm away.
It's the standing still equivalent of running a half marathon except our stand still and exercise your lungs and clear your head and have fun bringing out tunes and melodies on the spot.
As a society we've become lazy and let the money makers produce it for us...... Leaving us Less skilled and less family connected.
I grant you, the 80's were good.
But learning the harmonica has helped my breathing as I used to suffer from hyperventilation which has virtually gone now, and I'm sure it's due to this.
We must try to make, do and produce things together as families and people.
To take OUR CULTURE back, to keep us, the real us.... Alive.
I'm often called a "fundamentalist conservative christian" because of my traditionalist/teocratic and monarchist views. I never understood why people think it would be hard to talk to us or to question us. We consider ourselves to be the upholders of objective thruth, and our mission is to help all those who are seeking the thruth, as Peterson is. What we often do not tolerate are intelectually dishonest scholars or ill intended ideologues who never had any intention of having a fair debate in the first place.
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
"objective truth"
Yeah well you’re a monarchist, so stop talking.
@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT trying to silence people who you disagree with? Not very democratic of you
I agree
“Ideology always leads to atrocity.”
- Terrence McKenna
Thanks Dr. Peterson for calling out these sociopaths and their dystopian nightmare agenda. Let freedom ring.
It's not a surprise that Dr. Peterson has moved to a more traditional view on certain subjects because his world is to heal, and healing is a matter of steering people to what works, what is reliable, what has long term success, what has been learned to be true. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE CONSERVATIVE! Learn what works and "conserve" it.
And on the point of the cultural orthodoxy, what is very telling to me is that ideologies with NO history of a proven truth or workable, or even right (ie. the many thousands of people who have gone through transition and are regretting that choice) is pushed out as if this is absolute, correct or even workable and ANY debate is immediately shut down. That is the style of the Nazie's, the Soviet Communists, or Mao's China, or North Korean leadership. Push it so fast no one has the chance to say "hey, wait a minute. Does this make sense?".
Well. Some of the ideas have never been tried in a European or North American setting.
Many ideas have been working in Eastern countries for generations. When one says "conservative eastern", you could take it to mean taoist or some sort of socialist. Its been used for so long - thats just the accepted way of doing it.
Traditional is only as good as the underlying resources that support it. If the world is at peak oil, conservative is the single worst thing to try to maintain or expand upon. 1,000 civilians want their space picnic on the moon at 2 million pounds fuel per trip? It was always a titan dream. The 1,000 space picnicer will force Peterson to give up his combustion car to cover the expenses faster than ones using fuel to survive.
Capitalism often ending up in that Titanic end.
You are using Conservative in the wrong definition and re-writing history. The 1 st time its is used Is in 1500s during the Elizabeth 1 era . Bishop Richard Hooker he defined as National Conservatism . To Give Britain a National religious Identity because of the transition from Catholic to Anglican . And how the Old Ideas especially the Monarchy could still work under the new religion. Then the Rebutable of that in the 1600s with John Locke . What is known as Classical Liberalism Locke drawing from his Calvinist roots . To promote that the State didn't need to Govern religion . And that All People are created equal under God and therefore all are Equal under the Law. Refutes Divine -Right of the Monarchy or a institution Such as the Church . WHich then our Founding Fathers took a step further , To promote that the State didn't need to Govern religion and Religion didn't need to govern the State.
@@roboparks You have gone to a definition adopted for a political discussion, I am using a common literal definition. To conserve... to preserve from loss or decay or injury. And then logically to conserve what is good, what works. So a conservative is one who acts on this. Mr. Peterson is very, very focused on healing, which involves both prevention of further loss (new habits) as well as healing the loss or decay.
@@neverquit9599 a common literal definition??. If you are truly conservative the common literary definition. would be the historical meaning. Because in context this is a political discussion not a discussion on to conserve water in Southern Ca, preserve from loss or decay or injury.
Many things that are pushed as "cool" when you are young are in fact BAD FOR YOU
I mean yeah, most of what's cool is fun, and past a certain point of risk taking, what's more fun is also more dangerous, it almost seems like it's straight up 1:1 sometimes. And why wouldn't we? Our parents and honestly their parents did a terrible job at pitching the whole religion thing to us so as far as we're concerned we die at the end so culturally there's no good reason not to be nihilists/absurdists and just do whatever you want.
Roller coasters are great because they're very safe but give you sensations that would normally require extreme danger to experience.
@@otoyoto7153 Who's "we"?
By those who can only bully minors. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
The anecdote to openness and art was pure genius.
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who is in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
Yes. As a artist, I consider my work to be nothing more than the documented proofs of my meditations...a legacy for all to explore
So much truth and knowledge. I love listening to Jordan.
There are two interesting factors; liberals these days appear to be really high in neuroticism as well as really low in conscientiousness, combine that with high openness and you end up with an explosive mixture. They are really creative at creating enemies that aren't there and feeling bad because of whatever their brain can concoct, like not being called the right pronouns, then add a no discipline on top to create a massive frustration because they lack the discipline to get out of their personal hell.
I'm really high in openness and the reason why I started consuming conservative media it's because they are willing to discuss ideas which is highly entertaining and nurturing for my personality, unlike liberals that, as Rolf said, have been saying the same thing for years, for people that are high in openness it gets exhausting, and that's something that should be pointed out, they aren't doing anything creative at all, it means they are willingly throwing themselves into an emotional abyss and the only "solution" they've found is to grasp as hard as they can to this ideology that gives them everything they are lacking; purpose, creativity in how they identify and present themselves, and a place where they can feel safe.
This reads like it was written by a bot who consumes nothing but Jordan Peterson content.
@@adamgates1142 Bot or not, it's pretty relatable to me for the same reasons. I think there are just so many liberals who have seen or heard about the toxically extreme right that they'll convince themselves even against their own reasoning to put all their faith into the liberal agendas. And they are so religiously into it that they can't see the toxically extreme left is just as dangerous. This is why we need to be open to discussing ideas deeply, regardless of whether the ideas are conservative or liberal. We need to figure out together how to integrate right and left policies to maintain a stable and long-lasting strong nation.
@@adamgates1142 Reads to me like it's from someone who has thought a bit deeper than many do: if you don't agree that is fine, but rather than make an offhand and essentially useless comment, why not engage academically and logically and thereby give us all another perspective to consider?
As I've repeatedly said, I was, and my family were proud liberals. I campaigned for and ultimately shook hands with John Fitzgerald Kennedy, my hero. I have not changed one iota of my philosophy and am now considered an arch conservative. Anthropologically, it's shocking to me how, not only further left the pendulum has swung, but how intransigent it prides itself. By it's own example, frighteningly ignorant!!!
Same here. I’m extremely high in openness AND consciousness but very low 4%, in neuroticism. I got tired of hearing the same BS nonsense rotating in circles so I sought out other ideas. And that landed me on conservative thinkers who were willing to discuss and challenge with guests of all kinds.
1:07-1:09: "The iron law of unintended consequences..."
Bravo! Standing ovation!
Yet by the same metric Jordan Peterson’s Benzo defective brain can’t wrap his head around the unintended consequences of radical conservatism in art. Produces garbage,
Yes. I've been saying this for YEARS.
THANK YOU JORDAN!
It feels like, since the end of the 80s, something was just slowly going wrong.
Agreed
I'm really high in trait openness, and I've always been pretty right leaning.
Huh that is pretty strange. do you consider yourself traditional? Because those who tend to be pretty right leaning are concerned with preserving tradition and someone who scores high on openness is much more open to change which is exactly what political conservatism is against- change . I scored 90 for instance and I dont care what people do with their lives as long as it doesnt effect me, I love talking to people with different political views even when it gets heated and with the right facts and reasons I can even be persuaded. Does that sound like you?
Are you right leaning for financial reasons, "a classic liberal" Reagan era type? Chances are you are in your 60s or a dying breed
Right on!!! Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
I loathe being force fed ads when trying to listen, no option to skip.
Turn the volume down 'cause fuck em.
You can Just skip Forward in the timeline of the video
Get CZcams premium. Best money I ever spent
@@0987__ I used to, but now I struggle to come up with the 12 bucks to spend on that :(
It’s called “premium”. Upgrade to premium and you won’t be “force fed” ads.
Just love all the fantastic knowledge that comes out of your conversations
This is absolutely true and it's been true for a long time. Most memes (and CZcams) are corporate created but made to *look like naturally occurring
(EDIT: I work for these guys and down the hall there were people whose literal day job was making memes. So yes, most of the memes you see circulating about current events are a new way of the establishment curbing current opinion.)
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who is in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
Stay gold and document the process
@@haydenwayne3710 wym bro, of course I " *won't* " document anything 😉😉
I'm completely with you Jordan. As a classic liberal, I now need to lean towards conservatism as a counterbalance to all this BS.
Is because the liberals are not longer the ideological majority of the democrats or liberals in canda
As a conservative, I feel I am now leaning toward classic liberalism. All of the intellectuals and talking heads that I really pay attention to are classic liberals. It really is quite astonishing.
You’re a liberal that’s the problem
I try not to identify myself like this anymore. I'm just a human who wishes to make life easier for my future family and their future family. I want to make life easier for those around me because it makes it easier on me. I worry a lot about others, and even in my short life I've seen the decline of relationships in the real world. Saddening to think about, and if thought about for too long it can be quite maddening.
@@jomiguides so you're a classic liberal then
I was a maoist rebel who fought a dictatorship together with my peers in my teens.
Now I'm a born again conservative. Life is funny 🤣
It just makes the most sense.
Amen sister.
Would love to hear the story of your journey. That is quite a change.
I also was a communist for a few years, and am now a baptized Catholic.
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who is in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
@@run4cmt
Llllooonnngg. Tale. Maybe my sister would write portions. She just had her first novel contracted for publication. 🙏
I consider myself to be relatively fundamental in my Christian faith (I avoid the term 'fundamentalist', because I don't understand the 'accepted' definition at this time of history). I think the reason partly that Peterson can have robust debates with those who have a fundamental view of their faith is that :
1. We tend to debate rigorously amongst ourselves, from scriptures to society. We often disagree, but we realise, for the most part, it must still be done in love and with a sense of fairness.
2. There is room for debate within our faith, so to listen to, and debate others, is a natural expression of ourselves.
3. If we are sincere, we know we are required to love those we disagree with. If they are unsaved, we recognise that the souls of the unsaved are precious to God - for we were also once unsaved - people have intrinsic value to God.
Morality is morality. Goodness is goodness. Spirituality is spirituality. How one chooses to get there is their own personal business. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
This was a really value-rich clip. Thank you.
"They Live was a documentary" Rowdy Roddy Piper, another Canadian hero (RIP).
I love you guys for this opportunity 😊
“Listen with an open mind and an open heart”
And a lot of people learn so many great things along with you. 👍👏
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
This might be one of the single greatest and most important pieces of content that jbp has put out. Well done sir.
Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who is in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
He's brilliant and very wise, from years of clinical witness and personal study.
Everything he has to say shows considerable thought and compassion, let alone an educated illegence.
My despair is about what’s become of “good” English, proper grammar, vocabulary, etc. I hear “must have went” or “could ‘of’ did it” coming from news reporters, everyone. It’s become rare to hear someone say “I think”; it’s almost always “I feel”. Even those criticizing the woke, feelings-based culture have managed to adopt the perpetual phrase “I feel like…”. I THINK this is the dumbing down of language. That’s a THOUGHT, not a feeling. Do we still have think tanks, or have they become feeling tanks?
It's like I don't like, know what you mean. Do you like know what I like mean?
Truth me. There are many of us who pride the power of the word. Social media has allowed the seeming endless numbers of illiteracy to overwhelm us. Stay literate and learn. You makes ya bed, ya sleeps in it. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
I think it's important to become bilingual between the languages of thought and feeling. Thought is a cold, exacting scalpel. You use it when you have something very specific to say, usually at the risk of being parochial and pedantically over-fixated on the wrong things. Feeling, by contrast, is a hot, thunderous hammer. You use it when you have something very general to say, usually a value you want to express and champion. Feelings are expressed often at the risk of oversimplifying the world, thereby leading to an inability to ever make real progress in dialogue with one's opposition.
So there's a push and a pull going on here. We often start from the broad intuitions of our feelings, and then try to get at any deeper reasons that might justify those feelings using our reason. When this relationship is toxic, we enslave reason to our passions, relegating it to the role of daily confirmation bias. When this relationship is healthy, we begin a dialogue between our reason and our passions, where reason accepts its liability to become pretentious and pedantic, and the passions accept their liability to paint in such large brushstrokes that all the important complexity of the world is washed out.
@@Larknok1 Thank you for replying. I appreciate it.
I don't agree with your bifurcation.
Conscious is. Nothing would be able to occur motor neurologically without it. How could one possibly speak without thought. Yes, we live in a world where, more often than not, people speak without thinking., as it were. The big question is, are people ready, let alone able to still themselves enough so to process the information at hand and then respond accordingly?
Dear one. Bless you! Don't despair. There are many of us who pride the power of the word and are documenting our revelations through our writing. That there is a growing illiteracy...I hardily agree. However, if I may be forward...find a different circle of colleagues who revel in the power of language and thought. It will change your life. Write down your thoughts and refine the compilation at years end. It will surprise you how you have documented your evolution. It's wonderful!!!
I 100% agree that it’s annoying to watch every word. It’s also annoying when things are renamed because they apparently use offensive language. The most recent example in my domain (software engineering) was a version control system (called Git) that renamed the “master” branch to “main”. Now, I wouldn’t really object to that if it wasn’t for the _reasons_ they did it. Saying the word “master” is offensive because of slavery is outright stupid. I remember someone asking in a programming language forum if they rename the master branch as Git intends. The overwhelming answer was: “No, this is just a political plot.” I was so happy to see reasonable people not falling for a loud-minority demand.
Wow. I have huge memory issues now but that Master to Main thing on Git is something I've noticed now that you mention it. Never put two and two together that it was SJW appeasing BS.
so do those offended who "main-minded" this idea now get a "Main Degree" instead of a Master's Degree?
Same thing in real estate. The master bedroom is now the principal bedroom or some such nonsense.
@@azimuth5620 I haven't seen them complain about “primary master”, “secondary master”, ”primary slave“ and ”secondary slave“ nomenclature, which has literally a master-slave distinction. The Git branches have no connotation with slavery whatsoever.
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Agreed, I think that’s why I’ve had such a strong connection to history and anthropology despite being a business student.
If people only spoke out when they were ACTUALLY offended, instead of intently listening for you to say something they could pretend to be offended by, as a means to control you and the conversation, then we wouldn't have to walk on eggshells all the time. Most people are just looking for a reason to bitch, because as long as everyone is pointing their fingers at you, no one is pointing at THEM.
What does it mean to be actually offended?
I believe it is a choice rather or not something offends you. And like anything, the more you choose to do it, the better you get at it.
Either you will control your emotions, or your emotions will control you. That's what I believe the real line is.
@@viperstriker4728 I think whether you are "actually" or "theatrically" offended would be irrelevant, if we could ever get back to a place where "being offended" didn't mean the whole world had to give a shit. When you were offended, you were just offended. You dealt with it and moved on. The whole world didn't have to bend over backwards to accommodate your fragility. We need to get back there.
@@AV8R_1 Fair point, and I definitely agree the world should go that way.
But at the same time is has been observed many times that lying to yourself sort of not possible. People start to believe their own lies and they become what they pretend to be. An extreme example is method actors going crazy, but the same effect happens to everyone every time we lie. It might be theatrically at first, but eventually it will become actual. But suppose the fact remains that it won't have any justification behind it, which might be what you were getting at.
Dr Peterson, I appreciate your honesty and your maturity in being able to change your opinion; or, as you discussed moved from liberalism to more conservativism. Awesome, Dr!
Love Jordan! Awesome thinking man.
Yes indeed. We are blessed to have him amongst us!!! Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
Love this guy!
Annie are you ok? Are you ok? Are you ok, Annie?
" ... You are either a servant of salvation, or a victim of revolution .. "
Louis Veuillot
I have to believe revolution is a necessity, as long as it is for the betterment of all. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
“Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.” ― Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
The greatest freedom obtained is through discipline. The only liberty is free thought.
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I used to think I was liberal… or used to be, I guess…now I’m reading the Bible for the first time and find myself appreciating voices on the Right MUCH more than leftists 😣
Same thing happened to me. I am at peace with God now. ☺️
leftist extremists are actively trying to "dismantle" society so pushback seems natural to me.
When you look at Christianity with honesty, you begin to realize that the ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are all based on virtues laid out by God.
Well you certainly sound like a follower
"A wise man’s heart inclines him to the right,
but a fool’s heart to the left."
Ecclesiasties 10:2
I HEARTILY agree with what C.R. said about the free thinkers of the 60’s who broke many boundaries attempting to break out of what they believed to be a stifling structure. We were looking for deeper truths, I guess. Many of us found stability in Christianity. BUT what HAPPENED? Now our “love” has been replaced by division. Our ability to think for ourselves has been hijacked by “thought police.” HOW did this happen. We were COUNTER-CULTURAL not WOKE!
Counter-culture is already spreading again. Self-righteousness always sparks some corrective movement. :)
@@NotaNazgul It can’t come soon enough!
Read the book Homage to Catalonia. It's the story of the anarchists in Spain from the perspective of the author. Sorry to spoil the end of a historical event, but it goes from anarchist to full authoritarian in a single night. It seems shocking how it happens, until you realize a few things about people, then you start to think this could never have ended any other way.
It's from the same author as Animal Farm and 1984. Both tell the story of Catalonia in an abstract way.
@@viperstriker4728 That disproves the leftist assumption that man is basically good. Thank you. George Orwell is a prophet, to put it mildly.
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Bless you
A golden convo here ..makes the ad worthwhile 😃
Amen! Love the straight forward talk.
Dude says when he moved out of the city into a smaller town, that's where he felt real freedom and free thinking could happen.
And sure, it should be the case, less people equals less group think and less authority.. But that's not true. Try growing up in a small town where everyone knows everyone's business. Not much room for making even the most arbitrary decisions for yourself, if it happens to be against the hick town code.. Such as: You can drink alcohol and get violent but you better not smoke a plant that makes you calm.
Yea, feel like it leaves out a lot of potential nuances.
It's great listening to two people talking sense instead of lefty woke rubbish.
I came off of suicide watch Monday for this kind of stuff. I reached out because I said I would, if it ever got that bad, then i got taken to hospital so "they know I'm safe", it felt so unsafe. People scoffing when I ask them to stop virtue signalling. Telling me I'm loved cause family is here. I know. I called em, not you. 😂
100%. These GenZ kids just repeat woke corporate slogans And think they’re actually doing something sad
Totally agree with you Jordan. An example of declining art is comedy. Not much to laugh about nowadays.
Thank You ❤
With you Jordan.
When someone decides to live in reality they start on the road to be centre right.
The path of Truth and Accountability are not political. They are synergistic essentials to become Human. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
The Lion and Fox analogy lit my eyes.
it made less sense than the phrase 'lit my eyes'
Earth 2 is fucking weird
When I became a Libertarian, my Democrat parents made horrid accusations and have been angry with me for years. When my husband and I moved our family from Southern California to a small town in the mid-west, I notice those few who disagree with me are more polite about it. Your last words made think of the Goddess Athena Woman of Wisdom and Warrior for Right! Thank you for the interview! ✌🏾🫶🏽
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Thanks @DrJordanBPetersonClips
Interesting conversation
Artificial Conundrum
Values are hard to overlook when it comes to the potential of someone being a friend. Next would probably be beliefs because both of these determine how a person acts in the world. And these two things can’t lie because the action will be incongruent with the professed values/beliefs.
Social avatars are artificial and they’ll lead to artificial trust, artificial friendships…on and on as the future unfolds. There’s not much balance in the online world.
That’s why we see fringe ideas sweeping social media like fire but when they manifest in the real world, those fringe ideas tank at the box office, tank corporations, and basically devour themselves (you saw this coming).
They took on an artificial life which had no real world value.
Selah.
Many things can act as a substitute for the real thing. I think that poses some amount of danger. What's the plumb line and will it be tainted with untruths as well? They're saying now that the government needs to implement checks and balances for what's real and what isn't - God help us all if that's the case.
Artificial Intelligence is altogether a different kind of beast that spews half truth, half lie and it will not discern properly for you which it’s speaking; and what part of the truth is a lie, and what part of the lie is truth is unknown. It’s the serpent in the garden whispering in the human's ear, ‘Surely, you will not die’…
It spoke a half-truth. But doesn't that, like leaven, make the whole lump a lie?
Friendship cannot be properly cultivated over social media, in my opinion. We forge allies - which in turn have the potential to become friends if taken into real world contexts. I could be wrong about this.
True relationship/friendship is reciprocal but also observational - real world observation not digital observation. Regardless, if it’s easy to walk away, you don’t have much. If a relationship is easy to maintain, ask yourself what exactly you have, and what that person wants from you. Chances are, if you are putting in no effort, but you consider them a great friend, they have other intentions or ulterior motives in mind.
Or that person is really a good person but you’re displaying narcissistic traits. Because that’s the only kind of relationship a NP wants; zero effort but all the love, praise and attention with no challenge or criticism.
Artificial life is online, but ‘they’ will go to great lengths to change our mind about that, to accept it as the most real thing. They will even - eventually - change the name ‘artificial intelligence’ so as to mask the lie. An image behind the image. It will be renamed Super Intelligence or something of the like.
“The Singularity has happened, we no longer have artificial intelligence but a new species of Super Intelligence!”
When AI has gained rights by law, ‘artificial’ will be a hate crime to speak, punishable in a court of law. You wait :-P
I'm sorry to say you're right.
@@debra1363 It's sad. The whole thing makes me sad.
Eloquently expressed. Thank you
ChatGPT?
@@Ghosty_cat_ Do you think? I hope not.
Social/Psychological engineering. An aspect of psycho-political warfare. PS: Did you see the FBI groomers?
Ignoring Matt Gaetz and Andrew Tate intensifies.
Jbp such a great listener.. Respect..
True...refined even more so through his profession.
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Its a cult. You dont question the cult or its leaders. If you deviate even a little bit then you are the enemy.
Many of us have lost lifelong relationships to this cult.
I believe one of the reasons for the difficulty is that the person you are talking to internalizes any statement of criticism, whether it be of society, the conduct of another, the reason someone close to them chose to do something that seems to you to be wrong for them. Because they take it and internalize it it becomes a criticism of themselves and they either react passionately or they go silent and refuse to engage in any discussion.
Its exhausting to try to talk with a leftist. It’s like walking into a minefield.
Before you know it, you’ve stepped on one and the thing’s exploding.
You're describing unstable, highly volatile narcissism; people who have no inherent stability and require, or even demand, the acceptance and approval of others as a form of stabilization. It's all about them to such a degree, that any deviation is seen as life threatening, and requires an almost panic response because it's seen as a life or death moment. Any single word, any action, even a look or body language... _anything_ can be perceived as a threat to them. To me this comes across as dramatically infantile. This can be managed if it is an actual infant, but it becomes very dangerous when it's in a full grown adult.
@@markd3250ding ding. They're not developed. They're insane, irrational, and dangerous people
Why is it people in power cannot be like JP?? just full of common sense, we are heading for very dark times.
Thanks, Dr. P. ❤🦞
I hear you, Jordan!
Thank you for your work and your voice Dr. Peterson! God bless.
Spot on i say
thank you, 💯
My father is a street preacher. He went to a college campus to reach out to the students/teachers about ab0rtion. There were some counter-protesters there in response.
A journalism student came up to my dad. The student wasn't reactionary and asked my father why the counter protesters were so angry. My dad suggested that the student go over there to ask them himself. So he did, and after some discussion, he returned to my dad. Dad asked how it went. The student replied, "They make your case for you."
The things I always sensed but couldn't seem too verbalize.
Imagine being a real artist and someone sells a little dot for millions.
yep, I understand completely
Such a great outfit, Professor ❤️
DEI = KGB
They're doing this all on purpose
Aren'y we all!
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2:08 I've read Christopher Rufu's works in the City Journal over the past few years. His articles are super interesting with thoughtful, articulate writing. I've learned a lot from reading his stuff.
Social liberal financial conservative. Over the past few years I’ve walked away from many “friends” that I got along with great so long as I kept my mouth shut. Not worth the energy. Thank you Dr Peterson for bringing the Bible back into my life.
quite simply, culture creates art. art, like thought and products, are a free market. anything else is propaganda, I.E. art creates culture, politics creates speech, and the government creates economics more commonly called totalitarianism.
The power of the word is our ultimate proof of expression...our ultimate expression of democracy. That said, it comes with major responsibility:..not to, as it were, scream "fire" in a crowded theatre, but the absolute adherence to the Truth of Science. To be Human, one must continually learn as much as one can. AND, all exploration should be predicated upon goodness and love.
Traditional values and religious values were always held in the highest viewpoints by schools, government and society for centuries in almost every country. Today in first world countries the traditional values and religious values are being treated as wrong or oppressive... resulting with backwards evolution.
That’s not how the free market works lmao. If you had a true free market there would be 2 “products” of art to purchase from, and odds are they would be cheap and suck. You dogmatic conservatives are so blinded by your fat stomachs you don’t get that conservative propaganda, or liberal propaganda is what destroys art. Art can be a product of culture, or it can not. There’s no “box” to put that in. And believe me if there was we’d have nothing but daily wire failed movies to watch all day.
@@haydenwayne3710 i disagree on some points actually. democracy and government in general, is only of value to human experience in so far as it affects it. which, as it where, must remain virtually null else you find yourself in the tyranny of totalitarianism. on that point, human growth is limited both to individual potential and within the subjects relevant to the individual. science only has value so long as it expands human potential within the confines of current social need. once science leaves social need it becomes worthless, or even toxic. however this is not to say the direction of research will never have value, but rather to remember that life is about the day to day and the subjects of legitimate relevance.
No matter how one wishes to spin it, WE are the government. It says so in the instruction manual. Special interests have always been around and the FoundingFathers, as flawed as they may be considered by today's standards, created an intellectual hypothesis that considered the power of the word to be the greatest demonstration of democracy. The checks and balance created have ever since then been attempted to dismantle by the banks, the corporations and those who centralized financial power.
Creative people need boundaries and limitations, for these are the very things that facilitate creativity.
More importantly they need structure. Creatives are being held hostage by their marxist sponsors/masters, and most of them probably aren't even aware of it.
As a creative person this is interesting. I think this type of approach simply results in a certain type of creativity, something very fascinating happens when there are no boundaries but its not for everyone..
@@tcrijwanachoudhury
Examples?
Thank you for caring for all of us who cant fight .
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It makes perfect sense to be able to communicate with ppl who accept reality as it is and are less likely to be perpetually trapped in a childish, eccentric ideology bought about by cowardice and an innate lack of self discipline!
Perfect
I believe balance is the key to harmonic relationships.
Yin and Yan. Very simple design but harboured deep philosophy and wisdoms.
I will be a student of that until the day I died.
Maximize your synergistic potential. Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
@@haydenwayne3710
100% agree. All the best.
Bless you!
@@xbman1 We'll make this work. What's important is that we stay in contact with all souls who embody this light and discipline to expand their consciousness, thus Humanism. I look forward to our continuing dialogue
@@haydenwayne3710
Yes, each of us around the world do our little parts and drive for harmonic relationships. Many good things will come about. I believe it will happen.
There are 2 of us at the moment. Anyone else want to join us? :)
what you are saying is that you need to have a mindset that is neither left nor right, but all-encompassing. unbiased.
The artist who attends to the universal won't be so stifled by the "correctness" as those who only operate within superficialities. The standard for what is classic never changes. Whatever works survive through the obstacles -- and maybe also whichever obstacles survive the tests of those works that might prove classic -- will hopefully prove universally relevant. Like a sonnet: freedom within constraint. The universal truth will prevail(we should hope).
Here's a great example of freeing yourself. Once you understand that the "State" and "Government" are just words created by people, coming into mundane manifestations by people helps free people sometimes with their thinking that they are slaves to other people's thinking. If you don't care if you are going to get what people call "Cancel Cultured" by another individual, then you have power. If you have greater knowledges like martial arts, how to discern and critical thinking skills, knowing the laws and how to use them, communication skills and many others, then you can use them on others who try to implement their so-called "Will" upon you. Some may say you have to abide, cause I'm the "State." You take that person to court and see how fast their I'm the "State" nonsense is going to hold up in court if they are breaking laws. Big thing is you can't be afraid of other people's nonsense, narcissistic ideologies/thinking and cancel cultureing. You take the bull by the horns and say what you want, be what you want, do what you want without doing harm and don't be afraid if others are offended. You think those others are going to care if you're offended? Absolutely not. There is then no reason to care or think how they are going to feel. These people come and do business as one wants to call it with you, then they better be ready on how you do business and quit acting like a sensitive Susan about how you are when they do business with you. If they don't like you, then they don't need to be around you.
God Bless Everyone
this man is simply, brilliant.
The adult in the room. We are blessed to have such a soul! Don't ever forget, those who pride being Human, predicated upon learning all that's possible and continuing to be a solution, not the problem, are truly who are in power, if we awaken ourselves to this resolve. Thank you for responding
Me and my family are orthodox people. My sister was also an orthodox like all of us...but she stumbled upon a book called 'conversation with god' and she completely changed. She says there is no such thing as bad and that she is a refraction of god and everything is true. I feel like I am losing her. I would really appreciate it if you took a look at this book. I don't know what to feel about it My self.
My best advice, get it much US dollars as possible go back to your homeland
There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but the view is the same.
What makes you think her path is incorrect, and yours is correct?
@@sicsempertyrannis4351 because she is talking moral relativism which is Marxism. That’s why she is lost.
@@sicsempertyrannis4351 Because anyone who claims there is no such thing as bad and everything is true is ipso facto an idiot. Ya got that, genius ?
@@HannahHarbourDeep Listen here... Orthodox anything is no better than Marxism. A cult is a cult is a cult. Most orthodoxies support slavery. Believing in the virgin birth as a historical fact is no different than believing men can be women.
You don't get to just decide "well this religion is bad" and "this religion is good" without having some objective reasons.
Morality IS relative, just look at Islam.
God says slavery is okay in the bible, but our modern morality in the west says slavery is bad. Are we wrong, and god is right, and slavery is good?
Perhaps OP could clarify which orthodoxy. Eastern Catholic? Jewish? Which Orthodoxy, and why do you think it's better than any other form of spirituality?
What exactly are the 10 central axioms of the left so I can clearly understand what it is the left really stands for?
In general, the left is associated with progressive or liberal views, while the right with conservative views.
Equity
Anti-Christian
Anti-colonialism
Diversity
Sexism
Racism
Wealth redistribution
America and the West are bad
I haven't had my coffee yet, so that's all I can come up with at the moment.
Same tenants of marxism
@@mategoller806partially correct. The right is for traditional views. There are no conservative views. We are conserving tradition... Which is what makes us Americans. Without it liberals and progressives would just immediately adopt communism or worse. We're already at that breaking point to be honest.