How Powerful Would Ace Be If He Survived?
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Fun fact: ace actually had basic armament and observation haki. He unlocked them in the ace novel while fighting a vice Admiral
Manga readers and anime watchers are weird when it comes to canon man I tell ya
Ya people forget that haki was a thing already since before skypiea, but Oda either didn't know how he wanted to portray it(which I heavily doubt since he was able to portray it perfectly immediately after timeskip which is btw only 3 weks after a lil break oda had around 2010) or that luffy at the time couldn't see it so we shouldn't be able to either.
Ace had future sight confirmed by newgate in the Ace novel thatch was his guiding hand in learning it
@@BlaxkSunFactss Ace novel canon to the anime
@@Snoozy96 I love ace he had so much potential
correct me if I am wrong, white beard was actually protecting ace by taking him in his crew from the world government, white beard already knew that ace was roger's son. If ace didn't join white beard pirates, the admirals would be after him, he refused to join the warlords, and because of Roger, he would be chased by the entire world government,so by becoming a member of white beard pirates he was protected under his name
btw ace is my favourite character followed by zoro
I think the government only found out when he got captured because they offered him a seat on the warlords
Whitebeard wanted to slowly mature ace, and give him to place of pirate king slowly. most cases, you'd need to go to extremes to reach Yonko lvl / pirate king level(which is what he was already doing/ what luiffy is doing) and since you put yourself at risk, whitebeard was definitely taking his time developing his skills, but that would make it a slow process.
You correct buddy
The funny thing is I always thought of the reason author killed Ace was because Whitebeard had to die for the story to progress. And with Whitebeard death there is no viable story route for Ace to live because he as a character is kind of under developed at that time.
Idk how the world govt knows about him being Roger's son, I always thought that Blackbeard told them
Imagine if Ace's flame turns blue after awakening
Ultraviolet would be the hottest. So maybe that's the color of the pirate king?
Me too I will look like marco
He’d possibly be white like luffy.
How can fire be white? White is special to Luffy
@@sniffingminorsFire can glow white
I think Luffy and Ace would just arrive at Laugh Tale together and duke it out one on one there. That's more believable than the Davy Back Fight scenario.
One single Davy Back Fight between both crews: Ace & Luffy fight each other with Sea Stone bracelets nullifying their powers. Ace would definitely want to see if Luffy is stronger and Luffy would definitely want to fight Ace in a "fair" fight
If ace never joined whitebeard, sure he might get a lot stronger, but he will definitely die faster. This man is always going to dangerous places. If anything, whitebeard preserved ace's life.
Dw Ace has plot armor, he’s basically the MC of One Piece if Luffys out of the story
@@scaryramling1845 plot armour? The armour that helped him turn onto a donut?
@@boomerana. Shit well Roger was able to live that long, and imo it was Luffys plot armor that killed off Ace, since Ace would’ve been fine if he didn’t step in to shield Luffy, and I also said that without Luffy Ace would be the MC since he had his own novel and everything, and he also has Good DF, Conquerors, OP Bloodline, he had all the requirements to be a MC like Luffy
@@scaryramling1845 true about Ace being MC part but his plot armour is pretty trash. Went to chase after blackbeard and ended up imprisoned by the marines who found out his bloodline. Mother died because of his amazing plot armour. His armour was so powerful that his father, the great pirate king, was unable to even see him.
@@boomerana. Yeah him dying was part of the plot
Same reason why Jiraiya had to die
If Emperor Ace gathered a full crew
Name - Spade Pirates
Yonko - Ace
Wings - Jinbei/ Yamato
- Little Oars Jr ( Cuz Ace made a hat for him??)
- Bartolomeu (It’s obvious he would have been Ace’s fan if he didn’t join WB pirates and continued being himself)
-Pedro, He wanted to follow Rogers but i believe his son wouldn’t be bad choice.
- Aokiji, Cuz he would be spying a Yonko with a D but will end up liking him instead and eventually will be loyal to him.
- Viola, Cuz Ace will save Dressrosa instead cuz Law will find him before luffy to attack Doffy and Viola, her devil fruit will make her great navigator + she is 😍. And ace will go “oreno nakama da?”
-Hiyori - Everyone needs a good musician in the crew isn’t it? And she might wanna explore the sea just like her parents?
- Denjiro - Princess Hiyori needs to have a bodyguard and a swordsman is missing from the crew.
- And his own mates ( dont worry, there would be HUGE ship, We have room for Little Oars Jr, Remember?)
WHO DO YOU GUYS WANNA ADD HERE?
I can see Luffy, Ace and Sabo happily reuniting after so many years.
Just ya imagination.
Ye
Mqybe just this timeline its gons be. Just luffy sabo dies
Bc
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Nothing better than when you post while I'm on my long drive to my weekend job
Katakuri: ooh a donut
Luffy: why are you eating my brother
...
From what I have gathered WB never intended to return from Marineford, he was ready to let Marco and Ace take the reins of the crew - and he wanted to go out with a bang before letting his crew see him truly weak.
Sabos memory would eventually return, Dragon is Luffys father and sooner or later they would meet - and I think that would be enough to trigger shit.
3D2Y really depends on how was Ace saved, if Shanks came a bit earlier and saved them both - Luffy and Ace could figure out they are not strong enough and could both train with Rayleight (Ace as he wouldnt now be capitan/first mate of a crew that basically has a huge target on their back with WB dead and Luffy because he saw that he is basically a fodder for top tier fighters). I am sure Rayleight would be more than happy to take son of Roger into his care, considering how much Roger had influence on his life Ace is basically his nephew.
I think much would change still, even if Luffy would train with Rayleight either way - he would not have this pain and desperation to get this much stronger - so it is possible that he is considerably weaker now. I am not sure what happens to reamining WB pirates vs blackbeard pirates war, maybe it never happens and thus WB pirates never go into hiding. Garp was furious when Ace died and I am guessing that made him retire (I adming my memory is getting bit fuzzy) - so maybe he still doesnt retire if Ace is alive and can be called a traitor because he just stood and watched how Marines lose the war (while he still is one of their greatest weapons) and because of his relations to Luffy (who is seen as a person who freed Ace, thus is seen as much of a problem as Yonkos),.....
I cant even get to the bottom of how many small things change, that was a battle that certainly marked an era of OPverse - and it was stated from the start that who wins that battle is justice. And outcome of that battle was basically:
Ace dies - Marines win
Ace lives- WB fleet wins
Who knows how many small things would change, maybe Akainu doesnt become fleet admiral as Marines start to understand that they are not that much stronger than Yonko crews and that while that holds true "Absolute justice" cant work, if Ace is alive when Shanks comes to Marineford, it is entirely possible that Shanks just helps WB crew in fight and they go on to ruin Marines which leads to BB never getting WBs fruit,........
Possibilities are basically limitless
Wow the Whole essay you have to much time
yeah i have too much time like 5 sec of c/p[copypaste from my save notes]@@user-ht7bf9bk1l
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I love your theory videos! Keep it up
Keep up the awesome work and videos ohara love the video
Another banger by the goat
WOW! a truly amazing video
super-duper-ace-in-one kewl!
Broo actually strawhats still get a time skip even if there is no Marine fort arc cuz they were sent to diffrent places by kuma before luffy even knowing about ace execution and kuma even stated the direction of luffy to Raleigh soo there might be some delay in finding luffy but eventually timeskip is for sure which means after time skip ace teams up with really a strong 9 men team since jimbe will not join this time soo untill dresrosa if consider the same we get alience of luffy law momo kid and ace and this time it will way to easy to deaft kaido
Hope u read this ✨✨
This is the most unlikely scenario you've ever made.
Ace is going to be stronger than he was when he was leading the second division of the Whitebeard Pirates? By himself?
Best way to make Ace stronger would be if Ace lied to Garp about wanting to become a Marine and get better training and learning the world better. Then he'd leave to become a Pirate, get the Flame Fruit, Ace Novels, but actually able to free Oden and have her join his crew. They constantly fight to get stronger, and decided to accept being a Warlord when he gets the invite and starts to look after Rogers old crew to train his own better.
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 that makes sense receiving direct training from GARP and then heading out to sea at the same time he did originally.
@@maxlee8780 I think that Ace & Luffy being sons of Roger & Dragon were the main reasons he didn't want to train them, let alone stay with him. Pretty sure he could've gotten permission, or just ignored orders, to have them on his ship as he'd train them personally. I'm also pretty sure the Marines also had at least some teens forced to join by their parents for also wanting to be Pirates and the Navy just gave them the discipline to be better, so Ace & Luffy saying they're going to be Pirates wouldn't have been taken seriously
@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 that makes no sense because he did train Luffy. And he said that children aren't responsible for their parents sins. And why would he treat his own grandson that way?
There is no reason why he couldn't train them more than he did. He would have been even more enthusiastic to train them.
@@maxlee8780 the only reason he trained Luffy is because IT'S HIS GRANDSON, same with him training Ace. He trained them enough that they could get stronger on their own, and Luffy enough to control his DF. Also, Sengoku has shown every single time that his loyalty is to the Marines, and was ready to fight Garp when he came up on the execution platform. Garps an active Marine, he'd definitely come across various Pirates, and the boys would definitely start a stowaway running gag, Luffy being the Undisputed MC Hostage, and Ace constantly running into danger. Again, knowing all the big shots in the WG, they'd start to question who the parents are and would definitely try to use them as examples to children of Pirates or bait for Dragon
Ace was only a pirate for 3 years. Talk about cut short.
Instead of Nico Robin, Ace could've maybe recruited Charlotte Pudding, Im pretty sure she can read the Poneglyphs, thats why Teach kidnapped her.
Yes rayleigh was right when she said "your child will not become pirate king" roger😢😢😢
Keep up the great work
Bro did not watch the Nebulandia arc...
Blackbeard also wouldn’t have his additions from Impel Down. If he never becomes a warlord he never gets that access. Marineford doesn’t give him the chance to use the chaos of the war. In fact if he does try Impel Down he might die at the wardens hands. It was Shiryu, who gave him the antidote to the poison. If Shiryu isn’t released he can’t help Blackbeard.
I Imagine has devil fruit awakening turning his flames blue, making them hotter than magma. Imagine if this happens to sabo.
Wow really good idea, I like it.
That's actually pretty good idea
blue would be cool
btw i love your vids. Keep going
idea for a video: what if Nico Robin got captured by the navy but specifically the wg? We know that one of the gorosei, Ju Peter is obsessed about capturing Nico Robin, we don't know why, because he has a connection to Robin or whatsoever but the wg thinks of Robin as a huge threat because she can read poneglyphs and is pretty dangerous as an individual. So im curious if Robin will just be placed on lvl 6 in impel down if they manage to capture her or if they will have an execution. Either way, the straw hats will bust there
(VIDEO SUGGESTIONS) what if Luffy was inspired to be a pirate by Blackbeard instead of shanks? and what if Shanks, Blackbeard, and Buggy, were still on the same crew?
You mean shanks and buggy?
fun fact sanji would sooner realize that the strawhats still care for him. since ace exists meaning ace would help sanji realize sooner.
Saying Ace would defeat Whitebeard is basically saying that Ace at that point would be far stronger than any Admiral
Ace is so popular and he has good story too. He is my on eof the favourite character. He would have been at least yonko or near yonko character because of his geins of pirate king and df.
He is my fav character in one piece. Luffy and his back story the dynamics are just too good
@@homunculus6410 yesh
Omg I love your videos
This is too good to not watch.
Hi Ohara I love your videos!!!
It would’ve been way more interesting if u just started with “if ace survived marineford”
I can already tell this video is great
14:58
The man marked by flames is also another person
Bro just said shanks for watching 😂😂😂 lol
A run on with Emporio Ivankov could have given us a glimpse at Portgas D. Anne (Gol D. Anne)
Ace is undeniably the 🐐 🔥
No
He not the goat but he is a pretty good character
A tasty meal ?
/s
@@thehevandragon Ayooo
ACE actually knows about luffy's true goal so I seriously doubt that he would stand in his way....... They might make an alliance to fight for the final road polyniff together...or Nico robin's help or something else
I am so convinced that long ring long land is much more important than it seems, Oda doesn't just put things there for jokes only... I think it's possible that Blackbeard could choose to do a davy back fight against the strawhats for Robin instead of fighting them, after all he does tend to avoid a clash if he knows he can't win for sure
maybe but i don’t think Blackbeard really needs Robin since he kidnapped pudding already who could read poneglyphs, but then again Robin had already translated the other poneglyphs so maybe she’s useful for that
I wonder if we'll ever see the Davy Back Fight again in the series. Not my favorite concept, but would be neat to see it referenced again in a flashback.
I love your videos bro
YOU FORGOT THE RACE IN THE DANVEY BACK FIGHT
I didn't know there is a filler next week, I guess I rushed to act. Sorry for assuming that episode 1089 will not continue on TOEI animation.
Love that what ifs please do more like what if akinu was never born or ohara was mever destroyed or what if ace and luffy and sabo were the same age
Sometimes, one person's death can motivate others to be stronger.
idk why but when ever I hear th word joyboy I'll get tears
The one Ace
I think a better point in "time" to start that hipotesis is if Ace met Rayleigh at Shabody (unlike the light noble, in which ace is off to have fun while Duece going to coat the ship), and he (Reyleigh) told him what Roger was really like and the resson why he left him (Ace) behind.
Ace denies it, but after hearing from Yamato in Onigashima that his father and Luffy has the same dream, he understand that he need to get stronger so he can help Luffy to become the king.
Ace continues to meet Jimbe, after fighting for a few days with an endlless smile on their faces, they ecnolleging each other.
Jimbe teach Ace more about Haki, and they head back to Onigashima to free Yamato from his chains to make him their nakma. On Onigashima they face King the Wild Fire (vs Ace), Jack (vs Yamato), and Who's Who (vs Jimbe), after a rough win they flee Wano before Kaido is back.
In that point the Spade Pirates are super strong and recognazied crew.
After Kaido hears that Jimbe Ace with his shanenigans on Onigashima, Kaido move to attack Fishman Island.
Their he face WhiteBeard that came to protect his teritory.
WB & ACE Takeing down Kaido, and Ace is reconsized as a Yunko!
Wow I went really deep into it for a moment there😅🤣
It ended up amazing😁
Man I wish that was true 😢
What if bonnie made rayleigh young?
Rayleigh will not accept it
But yeah what if he accepted (idea for next video)
besides this would be so serious that the crew prolly wouldnt allow this to happen
Bro knew what he was doing when he put shanks in 5th
11:51 bro forgot Pudding could read them as well.
10 minutes gang
👇
Feels like the Zou handwave was a bit of a copout.
He said shanks for watching😂
Bro called Ace aids at 6:48 💀
No shanks to you for making the video 18:50
I think that u missed Ace promise to Yamato (that he made before joining Whitebeard), I think that after Whitebeard death (in your plot) he would go to fight Kaido and fulfill his promise.
I didnt know the donut have fans
1:31 “A very big butt”😂😂
Sadly akainu unleashed aces full potential as a pastry😢
Katakuri: ...the forbidden donut!
If you read the ace manga you would know that whitebeard was training ace (His commanders were at least). So no WB wasnt holding him back, rather was making him stronger.
Bro is doing like it’s live
lit
That’s a good video
I really liked reading Episode A
also I have two theories and rumors option one Ace might have been cloned by vega Punk just like Stussy option two Ace had a child that he didn't know about the bloodline of Roger continues
there's a particular scene in one piece film red that reveals about the fingerland family, there's a scene where luffy said that Uta is related to shanks, the world government find about this info they said this,( even if she's related to nge fingerland family by blood) so they they foreshadow the existence of the fingerland family
Davy back fight was the most fun arc in One Piece 😁
Love your videos and your stories and how you explain them but I have a question. When One Piece finished what would you do? Would you quit (pls don't) and what vids would you make?
He makes vids for other anime and manga too
Yay 7 minutes this is new record for me!
6:40 🎶can we get much higher🎶
Imagine having a whole gang pull up to come save you and you still die that’s crazy cuz you wanted to get your get back
What ifs are just like your failed past relationships that never happen
Next video idea : 5 strongest haki user only vs 5 strongest df+haki users 🖤
ace: arigato 💔💔💔
Ace is definitely my favorite Donut in all of anime.
I would rewatch one piece with this story
Video idea: what if ace was part of the strawhats
what if sonic spawned in the strawhats' ship after brook's arc (what if sonic joined the strawhats.)
17:03 Afro luffy slams Ace
imagine gear 5 luffy stretching ace's flame emperor and using it like a red hawk to cover luffy's bajrang gun
I think Ace probably awakened his devil fruit.
Don't forget that whitebeard was trying to make ace the pirate king. Even sengoku explains how ace was delusioned because it seems like to ace that hes the one trying to make wb be the king but in reality, whitebeard has been trying to make ace the pirate king which is why he goes so far as to even risk his life to "Save" ace
'Alive with no hole in him'💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
He is the definition of “that guy” 0:55
What would happen if Luffy ate Yonkos' Commander Devil Fruit
Ace is that guy
What happened to SABO then?
part 2!! pls
W vid
A second reason is you could have just had Ace join Luffy and have survived when White beard died being the pirate king does that mean that you have weeked maximum potential that is only a goal and title and it would have been more satisfying if he wanted Luffy to become the pirate king.
In the ace novel he fought and pressed whitebeard
Please do more what if Luffy gets other devil fruits
I’m pretty sure that sabaody caused the training arc not marineford for most straw hats
and another thing is that luffy is at the end of the day a re incarnation of joy boy himself which i think ace could sense
yeah i dont know if ace would win the davy back fight
I got a what if for you. I’ve only seen one video about it What if the straw hats didn’t get separated at the archipelago
Ok so in the new episode of one piece just before Rayleigh saves boa, blackbeard is telling boa that its impossible for a man not to fall for her technique and then starts to question to himself what he should do then we get another almost face change and then Rayleigh appears, so my theorie on black beard having 3 souls or 3 different personalities is that there's a girl one which is why he wasn't able to fall for boas tricks, and then there's good sort of one that's why he was questioning what to do and then the last one which is the one who is in most control and just wants to take over so in that short scene I think we saw all of his different personalities