Out of the Park Baseball 25 - Can We Save the A's? (Ep 15)
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
- We've gotten a lot of input from our worldwide scouting department... now it's time to make some decisions in the trade market, free agency, and international amateur free agency! Did we make the right choices?
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One thing about the Miles Shaw trade, when we shopped him, the cubs were offering another prospect with him, a younger outfielder (19) named Michael Torres. No idea how good he is, but it did add at least some additional depth for miller. I think maybe not trading him immediately in the off-season is fine, but I do still worry about his recovery. I won't harp on it, I'm not massively in love with Shaw either, just thinking about "getting something is better than nothing"
In terms of other catchers: it wouldn't be a platoon, but either Joey Bart/Elias Diaz might work. Looking for similar amounts of money to McGuire, both have fantastic personalities and arm captains, but are more of an even bat, nothing amazing, but nothing terrible. I always like having a catcher captain, for some reason it "fits" better :)
As always, great episode!!
I agree that a catcher with a Captain personality does seem to fit well. I'll take a look at those guys too. I think a revamp at C is in the works!
The OSS fan base = Old School Scouting Department unpaid internship 😂
Great IAFA class. Should fill the top prospect goal
Ha, if it doesn't, I don't know what I can do to make him happy!
Hi ! I love the pics in IAFA. You are in a position where you have to "gamble" a bit on those choices. And the fact that you could land both of those players, minimizes the risks. Regarding the C position, I also tend to prioritize the defense and/or personality when it comes to average players. Maybe paltooning is the right choice. So, I don't think you could go wrong with McGuire.
Thanks, I'm definitely leaning towards a platoon and changes at C next year... the only question is whether even one of last year's guys will be back at this point!
I do like Delauter and Marte, but you basically summed it up nicely. Whether you keep Miller or trade for one of those guys it's still a gamble. I'd say the biggest argument for trading is that your pitching has been good, so maybe trading for a future everyday player will be more helpful than a possible starter whos had no luck with injuries. It's a tough call.
I really liked the IAFA choices. 2 really interesting prospects to develop with great upside. Albrighton is a risk but with Montes it feels like a chance you can take.
Not trading big Maso doesn’t feel like a bad idea. The returns aren’t can’t miss and the potential he comes back to be an ace is about as good or better than any of the other risks with what needs to be given up.
I’m a fan of Maguire at catcher as a short term choice. Probably the best of an okay bunch to choose from.
Thanks, we're going to do something at C soon... meaning the next episode!
excellent job, keep going !
Thanks, that's the plan!
Nice work getting both IAFA targets. I forget who suggested that (has it been a couple of years ago already?), but that's been a really solid strategy.
Definitely worked out well this time around... it doesn't always, but I'll take it!
I like chase delauter for miller. I also like mcguire at C. Both of those guys make good contact and play defense so that will go a long way towards raising the floor of this team. IAFA was great, though drafting a fragile DH is not something i would have done, even with the plus bat and makeup. He is definitely going into the conditioning lab every year for the next 5 years!😀
I hear you on our new "fragile DH". My initial inclination was to go with the SS Orta instead of Albrighton, but I do love Albrighton's personality and high ceiling. The scouting team helped convince me to go with Albrighton, and Orta does look a lot like our IAFA SS from last season, Rodas, which also helped push me a bit to bring a different skill set onto the farm. I'm definitely intrigued my McGuire too, I think I could do worse than a platoon of him and Langeliers... of course, I could also do better, but that would be very expensive!
Great job with the IAFA signings! The DH wouldn't have been my first choice but I think you got very good value landing both of those guys. If he does develop you could always use him as a trade chip to get something else you might need...
I think I'm onboard with bringing McGuire in to platoon with Bangoliers especially on the cheap and if he doesn't work out...well, next man up!
And seeing the returns continuing to decline perhaps you're better off waiting for Miller to return and reevaluate again once (or if) he returns to the mound.
Agreed, we definitely have some flexibility with both Langeliers and Banfield still having options, so I think we'll be exploring some options behind the plate!
I think I like McGuire in a platoon role. Really wish you’d checked his career splits, that could provide more clarity. I’d even consider trading Langlears considering that he’s more expensive than the comparable free agents. Tomas Neto might be someone to go after in that role.
Also, HOLY CRAP that’s a good IAFA class. Nicely done. I know I liked Orta better, both for the injury proneness and the better defence, but if you need to I think Albrighton could compensate for a Nick Ahmed type, even over Orta.
Ha, I have looked at the splits, just didn't include it in the video! I'll try to remember at the start of the next one. I kind of liked Orta better too, but given that he was looking for $400k more than Albrighton, I don't think it's guaranteed that I would have been able to get both him and Montes if I had explored the other path. But something else I'll never know!
Albrighton all day! with that personality type and the potential, i would say it's odds on that he can be strengthened in the dev lab with outstanding or excellent success.
The personality is definitely tempting... stacks the odds in our favor for regular development and in the lab!
I should have looked closer at C names, yes McGuire was the one, not Raleigh. I say go for it so you have a Captain at a anchor position (not to mention he isn't all that expensive). Then look for a Catching prospect in the draft this season for long term.
Regarding Miller, your assessment is good I think based on the mediocre trade needed, and in a waffle of my own I wouldn't want to push Miller out the door on a Meh deal only to see him "right the ship" and have success at another team. I guess I was thinking you could get some good prospects for him but it doesn't look that way, I don't care for the offers either.
Solid risk play in the IAFA, as you said you should be able to work on mitigating the Fragile status on the one guy and you still got the other too. Nice!
Look forward to the next episode (and at 60yrs on June 3rd, I enjoyed the Steve Austin $6M Dollar Man reference!).
Thanks, and enjoy the upcoming birthday! I've still got years to go, but that will be my next big one too... hopefully!
I personally would’ve gone with Orta but i understand swinging big for the DH (i’m a big defense first guy). I think it offsets with the pickup of the Montes. Overall, I like the risk due to Montes signing.
I really liked Orta too... one thing that kind of got me to go the other way was that we got the SS Rodas in IAFA last year, and he's a pretty similar player... a bit better glove, not quite as good a bat...
Wonderful IAFA period. Looking forward to see how you handle all of these outfielders who are MLB ready. Also Miller stamina still less than ideal I prefer skenes still.
Thanks... I'm still thinking about Skenes... and a couple other of those prospects!
like the others, i like the IAFA choices (especially since i suggested both players). I think there's a good chance they develop well enough to matter in this playthrough. unless you get a new owner, you will definitely need home-grown stars with potential like those two guys. i think my approach with a team like the A's would be to aim for as high upside as possible in IAFA, but in the draft looking for higher floor guys who can become average to slightly above average major leaguers. regarding Miller, i think i like trading for DeLaughter as the best option even if you need to include some other pieces. also, congrats on the significant growth in the channel over the past few weeks since the series started.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
I'm gonna be honest I'm really surprised Skenes is that "bad" in your timeline, I expected him to have a lot more of an upside.
I'd say keep Miller for one more season and if he gets heavily injured again like right after starting to pitch just dump him ASAP for any half decent prospects.
Hopefully he'll be ok if he comes back the last couple months of the season, which will give us some options!
The only trade I would make would be for Delauter, otherwise I say keep Miller and see what you have in him
Thanks... I still have my eye on him... and Skenes.
When all the cards are on the table on the Miller case I tend to lean on that you should hold on to him and just hope he gets healthy enough to be the player he should be. In hindsight remember you quickly gave up on players in similar situations like this in you Buffalo series. Some really stuck to hunt you, the SS Mayer for one where you got stuck searching for a SS for years after. While Mayer returned and became an All-Star with another team. So maybe this time hold on since you're not all in on any of these trades.
On IAFA I can't judge since the overall system is just crazy IMHO. Teams pay millions to a kid sitting over a kitchen table in an unknown little village on a small island somewhere in the Caribbean mostly. A fortune is on and it saves the villages for sure, but how many of these kids just go after the dollars and never produce anything. I know teams say it is worth it if finding a diamond in the rough, but then you should not pay these fortunes. Consider that after 3-4 years you know for sure what a player might turn into and looking back at the prize then. One might have gotten him for far less in a trade during that time. It's a huge lottery but the price for a coupon is huge. Maybe one should go cheap and just pick up lower valued players. If the game is true surely some of those should increase in ratings with proper training. Often it tends to play out like an auction, where folks outbid each others in a frenzy. Keeping a cool head is the thing maybe. Bottom line is my thoughts that those millions could be better spent on something else like extensions and/or salaries.
Now that was my rant on IAFA.
Good points, but your first paragraph is why i am excited to see the new transaction summary page after a few years, where OSS can see the full picture of his moves - the numbers won't lie! 😉
Thanks for the reminder on giving up on Mayer! Hopefully I am playing things right with Miller now... we will see!
@@oldschoolsports 🤣Sorry, but I couldn't resist it. The shortstop story just kept on in that Buffalo save. 😛
@@stanleyrosella7042 Yeah, for all the success we had, that position was never very good!
Can't finish right now, @ 23:00 so unsure what happened. The fragile IAFA at 16 seems awful to me. Not something I'd touch. This Mason Miller situation seems like you're being unrealistic to me and not considering the budget that Oakland has. Isn't he demanding some obscene contract despite being injured for the last year? What's the point of holding on to him? He should be traded immediately for a player that will accept an (undervalue) long-term contract -- some 21, 22, 23, 24 y/o type that has little or no MLB experience and isn't a top prospect but should be at least an above average player. These contracts also improve the trade value of the players. (don't you also have inflation on this time? so it makes them even better)
Ha, it's definitely unlike me to go after the Fragile player too! Fragile or low Work Ethic are almost always immediate no-gos for me! Hoping some development lab magic and the fact he's likely to end up at DH or 1B will help me keep him healthy!
I disagree about trading Mason immediately. He still has three arbitration years left after the upcoming season, so I'm not really feeling a lot of urgency to trade him for financial reasons. Making $2.6mm to sit out most of this year, and then potentially $5.7, $7.2, and $8.6 the seasons after that. So those numbers don't scare me at all if he comes back and hasn't declined materially. Him suffering another setback, or coming back a shell of himself and having no trade value... that's what scares me right now! I think I've decided to roll the dice and hope he comes back healthy, since I already can't even get any of the prospects I went through straight up for him!
How do I see that personality class stuff!
Game Settings > Players & Team, then check the button next to "Show Player Personality Ratings on profile page"
Well, we are 40-49 just after the 2026 Draft. You know, the one I set $30 Million aside for. Guess what? It was another shitty pool. I only spent a little over $6 Million. So, $24 Million should be coming back. Right?
Ha, we both know the answer to that! My budget got cut by $4 million after I saved Fisher about $10 million with the money I put into the draft and didn't use, so you'll probably get cut back by close to $10 million! Sorry to hear the pool was trash!
@@oldschoolsports We finished 70-92. Junior started screwing with my budgets, so I quit. The league is expanding this year and you know I'm always a sucker for that.
@@patrickdebonis6493 Good luck with the new squad!
@@oldschoolsports This is becoming a fiasco too! When I expanded, both teams were filled with fictional players. That's normal. But the MLB rosters were filled with league average (or better) fictional players. So, I deleted them. Then there is the fact that the expansion teams are not given DSL teams. I know that I have to create them myself. I know how to create them myself. But the new player has no idea what is going on until they are well into their sim. The developers have known about this for years, a simple patch would fix it, but they can't be bothered.
@@patrickdebonis6493 I'd honestly be happy if one year the only "enhancements" to the GM part of the game were fixing things like that, fan interest, reliever salaries, etc... but a lot of the developer attention each year seems to go to trying to upgrade in-game graphics from "ancient" to "out of date", updating Perfect Team, and add-ons like expanded IAFA or the Dev Lab that don't really seem fully integrated into the game on initial release.