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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2022
- Scott Peterson's sister-in-law, Janey Peterson, sits down with #CourtTV anchor Ted Rowlands to discuss her brother-in-law's hearing today.
Do you think Scott deserves a new trial? Or did the jury get it right the first time?
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She's making me sick listening to her speak She's delusional 🙄
SAME HERE! 😠 Ugh! She sounds like an idiot with her desperate lies.
So delusional! I can’t get over how she backs him up and will
To the culvert end and also has a plan of this one doesn’t work out.
I thought it was me and I just didn’t like her, but as I read, there are so many people that feel the same way about her. For one, she is his sister in law. Married to his brother. Why would she put her self out to do this? I don’t understand the girl I can tell you that he gave her a pair of slippers one year and that’s all she cries about. Janie is some thing.! She has been looking forward to being a lawyer, so she put her self through school, but she failed the Barr. What can I say?
OMG, she should be embarrassed by her ignorance. HE DID IT!
Yes. There was a massive amount of circumstantial evidence which due to its amount and what came up, is just as good as any other sort of evidence. Too many oddities and police reported they’d found evidence he was also planning on killing Amber Frey too. His own sister wrote a book, “Blood Brother”, because she was convinced of his guilt. Her name is Ann Byrd. If my memory is correct.
Talking about she was definitely alive that morning. 😂 She is a gottdamn liar.
Lol. Totally agree
What’s sick is that she seriously believes he’s innocent ! She’s ready to keep defending if they have to move on to federal court ! Crazy!!!! what a waste of time !
@@redmango5615 I honestly think Janey has mental issues.
This woman is fooled hook line and sinker by that sadistic SoB, and/or completely delusional.
Why doesn't Janey ever acknowledge that Laci was found in remnants of CREAM colored pants and a nursing bra .
NOT the black pants white pull over that Scott claimed she was wearing on the 24th?
The last time anyone ( other than Scott of course ) saw Laci was on the 23rd . She had her last ultrasound with Connor and took Scott to SALON SALON Amy 's( Laci's half sister salon) to get his hair cut .
She was wearing cream colored pants and cream black polka dot shirt
Her top was found in hamper in their bedroom but pants were missing.
She was most probably murdered on the 23rd ....
The black pants white pull over and jewelry that Scott claimed she was wearing when he last saw her 🙄 was what she was probably GOING to wear for Xmas Eve Dinner.Scott most likely KNEW that which is why he gave that description .. ( Please keep in mind that Laci had a difficult pregnancy .her doctor told her to stop walking her dog as she was getting so sick and dizzy going for walks throughout her pregnancy .... WHY would she go for a "walk" on Christmas Eve ?🤔🙄)it was getting so bad. Her yoga teacher said she could BARELY walk. The last class. She needed assistance walking down stairs ...
It's also interesting how Janey never acknowledges the astounding number of trips Scott made to the marina WHILE LACI WAS MISSING
Staying only a few minutes each time ...
Funny how Janey doesn't like talking about Scott turning Connor's nursery into a storage room.
Trying to sell the house and her car calling a CRIMINAL defense lawyers ( when police did initial walk through the house on 24th they saw( and photographed phone: book opened to lawyers) flirting with Anne: birds( half sister) young babysitter while laci was "missing "
The list goes on.
I'm sorry she and the rest of his family can't accept what he did
But it's time they try.
Let these ridiculous conspiracy theories go . He's no longer on death row. He needs to live out the rest of his life in prison
Yes, and like all infamous murders as time goes by, the facts get skewed and the nutters with the conspiracy theories come out slightly shifting facts, where people eventually believe them.
Janey has her own narrative.
@@6611 I am very sorry for your loss 🙏you are so correct everyone feels their pain differently
@@6611 I'm so so sorry for your loss.
I'm not judging anyone's response to grief.
We are talking about someone who on national TV said the nursery was closed. He "couldn't go in there" .and it will remain closed until there's a "little guy" in there.
Only after his arrest when the police did a walk through of the house did you see what a cruel deception that was.
Please also keep in mind.. he did not even want children. Family said that Scott a really said "I was hoping for infertility" ...
When he was cheating with Amber . He liked her daughter but when they did ussrd children. He said he wanted to have a vasectomy .and if they had a future he just wanted her daughter
Not only did he turn Conniers nursery into a storage room)
He tried to sell the house and Lacis car within the first couple weeks
He ordered hardcore porn channels .. this is someone who had no interest in being tied down to Laci and Connor. - showed no concern that they were missing .
Scott didn't' lose' his baby .. he MURDERED his baby when he murdered Laci.
@@6611 You obviously know nothing about this case and your comments are completely irrelevant as a response.
Scott DID lie to the police on Dec 24th. He told the police there were no infidelities going on - the marriage was good.
😂😂... 90% of men would too. Don't be blinded by woman hatred of him. Let the evidence tell story. He's a dog like most men out here. It's all about him being a killer or not.
I sure hope the sister-in-law is going to pay for all these court Proceedings because we the tax payers damn sure shouldn’t have to it’s bad enough we have to house and feed him for the rest of his life!!!!!
She wants to get him out of prison so she can marry him. 🤮
so an innocent man should sit in prison and not get a new trial because its costing money..ok hope your never in this situation
@@ashrpblond Only an idiot would think he’s innocent.
@@ashrpblond c'mon. He's guilty af.
Lee Peterson is probably footing the bill.
He is 100% guilty. This woman is nuts
barf! what about your nephews justice? he never even got a chance to live!!! Justice for Connor & Lacey!!!!
This is all just a waste of taxpayer $$$. Scott did it, he knows it, everybody knows it. They should have thrown the key away already. No place in this world or any world for baby killers 😡
How does a new trial not get the same result since Scott killed his wife and baby? Who else, besides Scott no longer wanted the responsibility of a family and decided to kill his wife and unborn child on his behalf. His relatives are grasping at straws and should be grateful Scott wasn't executed.
Yeah, at this point just give him a new trial. He’s going to have to same verdict anyways
THIS TIME he needs the death penalty.
There is a great deal of evidence gathered since the trial that needs to be presented. I used to think he was guilty but after seeing everything, I am not so sure.
@@gypsyjengypsydogs9320 How do you explain telling his mistress that his wife died? And his casual lies during her vigil? Watch the behavior. The truth is right there. If we believe he didn't kill her we also have to believe he didn't care a whit about her. The phone call shows us how blasé he was. He, like Chris Watts, couldn't WAIT to chase some new tail.
@@aClownBaby- Why waste everyone's time and money? Because of a juror saying "Little man"??
Watch Scott being interviewed when his wife was "missing"... Cold blooded and he was calling his mistress when he was supposedly looking for his missing family....
Yeah, he inspired Charlie Watts
@@cyankirkpatrick5194 He is even more vial if possible??
@@cyankirkpatrick5194 Poor good old Charlie doesn‘t deserve this!!! You probably mean the monster CHRIS Watts, not the late drummer of The Rolling Stones!
@@bavros1998 uh duh, that is the monster not the coolest drummer since John Bonham, sorry I was enraged because this sick 🤬gets another chance and Laci and Connor doesn't 🤬🤬😢
And that is prove of guilt? Being a cheater is prove of guilt? I don’t think so.
I admire her determination for her brother-in-law, but am I the only one who finds it a little bit creepy like I never see his brother talking about this case it's always her and it's kind of creepy honestly
Agree!
I would admire it a hell of a lot more if he were actually innocent. As it is, she simply looks like the delusional idiot she is.
How can you admire someone who lies through her teeth and throws innocent people under the bus in an attempt to free a convicted double murderer?
@@sophie8394 I never said I admired her I said I admire her determination. Difference.
@@edwinacaparelli9911 no difference.
Where’s the brother? Why isn’t he sitting right next to his wife defending Scott? It’s all weird to me…is she secretly in love with Scott? 🤔
Omg, stopped being sick, he is working to pay for his defense, and his wife is the face out there fighting to get things done, gosh, wow, people are sick, sick.
@@laurenmay2098 sure we’re the sick ones 😏
@@laurenmay2098 Yeah like the Peterson's. So dramatic, 🙄
@@laurenmay2098 the tax payers are footing the bill for this. Not the Peterson's.
@@sophie8394 well, I am saying his legals bills, he isn't with a public defense attorney. The judicial system should and must fo be paid by taxes, that's what it is.
She definitely has something for him. Scott used his manipulation tactics and charm to convince this poor woman to devote her life, energy, resources, time and money to getting him out of jail. 🤦🏼♀️ Either she truly believes he’s innocent, or she knows he’s guilty but wants to get him out anyways for her own selfish reasons. Based off statistics alone, it is 98% always the husband/boyfriend/partner responsible.
She is in love with him.
I agree! She has wasted her life defending this psychopath.
It’s absolutely bizarre that the sister IN LAW is the strongest advocate for him. Why her? Where is his family? I am aware his mother has since passed away- but is there no one else??
This woman has been disillusioned for twenty years. Sad she has wasted 20 years of her life finding excuse after excuse after excuse for this monster.
Scott told amber his wife had died and this would be the first Christmas without her. He in on tape celebrating New Years in Paris- WHILE AT A CANDLELIGHT VIGIL for Laci and Connor. Book him, cook him- he is a monster.
She sounds like a nut bar, it's not maybe she's in love with murderer.
His father is very sick, his sister is a “b”, that wanted to make money on him. He is only child from his second marriage.
@@laurenmay2098 so what! What does that got to do with anything, he's a murderer!
I love your comment/post ! I’m with you all the way!
Bizarre in fact.
He wasn't fleeing. He just dyed his hair, had 10,000 dollars and was close to Mexico.
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Also had his brother’s ID, the one she is married to.
Oh Yeah, ISN'T that what ALL "normal" INNOCENT guys do AFTER killing their wife & unborn baby??? (Asking for a friend 🤔)
[They just flee to Mexico to SHOP w/ thousands of dollars!]
Sounds about right ✅️
There's def NOTHING unusual about ole SCOTT uh!
Just another normal day in the neighborhood...ha!
Unbelievable! 🤮
@@patriciaheld5820 He wasn't fleeing anywhere, du*by! He was already living I Southern California. Radio DJs called out to him with bullhorns while airing their show live from in front of his house, his house had been broken into, and the volunteer center had shut down. So he was living essentially out his car and with family and friends.
The defense played the wire tapped recording from police where Scott specifically told John his brother that it's best he didn't play golf because the media were following him, and he didn't want another picture of him in the papers.
@Mauiswift He had his brothers ID to get a discount at Torrey Pines. Read the testimony. Residents got a significant discount.
A lying juror doesn’t mean Peterson didn’t slaughter his wife and unborn child! His sister-in-law is humiliating herself for what?! To remind people that her family has a monster in it? To keep that humiliation going? SMFH!
I heard she has a "thing" for Scott, and wants him out, to be with him. Make of that what u will. But that's the word from people involved in this case.
She sounds like an idiot. Lies after lies.
No, it means he gets a new trial. This is her fault.
Spot on!!! The one juror certainly didn't compel the other eleven to vote guilty. It was Scott's own words and actions that sealed his fate. Janey is in complete and utter denial and her continued bid for a new trial front and center in the spotlight constantly reminds everyone she has a bonafide monster for a brother in law.
@@Amy-xoxo305 It doesn’t mean he’ll get a new trial.
the sister in law has been taken in by this sociopath. how embarrassing for her.
Unless she wants more FAME!
But tht's RIDICULOUS...
She is PATHETIC!
Scott is definitely WHERE he belongs...END of story!
(JUSTICE prevailed! 🙏⚖️🙏)
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They all know he's guilty, they just don't care
Janey is in love with him.
COME ON PEOPLE.
He was RANDOMLY FISHING in the exact same place his wife and son was found in pieces.
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I was called "snooks" by my grandpa. Every kid I watch or take care of is called "snooks" it is called a "term of endearment."
The lady is obviously a fruitcake but I have yet to see where being a "fruitcake" bars someone from being on a jury.
Scott is guilty, whether he receives a new trial is inconsequential to his guilt and the fact he would be ajudicated guilty again. Spending millions of dollars on a technicality, the US amazes me on what it chooses to waste money on.
I totally agree with you but have to say I just subbed bc I love your channel. Insects, crocheting, and Appalachia are my thing
Are you kidding me if he conversed with A. Frey saying he was in Paris during Laci Rocha's vigil he can convince his sister in law into buying Brooklyn bridge 🌉 Clueless get a life ... Yeah who goes to Mexico with orange hair, 15000 in cash, Viagra , cell phones, guns, ok I get it maybe he wasn't fleeing he was part of El Scoti Narcos
So many more are deserving of a new trial than this guy! His actions after the murders are unforgiveable!
Let him sit where he’s at!!
The sister-in-law is a hot mess to believe Scott's lies.
She’s in so much denial!!
Shes doing a lil too much just to be his sister n law. Its always her even whn his own blood wont show their faces...
She's one of these women that falls in love with murderers. Crazy
@@cindyrussell1581 They probably have exchanged long detailed love letters. When men are in prison they love to write and love to be in love with a willing participant on the outside.
@@Mesmerizing398 Exactly,One sick woman
He’s a evil murderer…god help all of us with this crazy “justice” system
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Scott was at his warehouse…making concrete bucket anchors to weigh down his dead wife who was probably in the back of his truck.
you can't just vomit BS you have to prove it and you can't
Wow Laci's family will be there today. I feel bad for them.
Lacy’s family has suffered enough.
@@bountylinda yes they have. 💔
This information, coupled with Peterson’s due date, helped investigators to determine when she died, according to SFGate. Dr. Alison Galloway, a fetal growth expert, measured two of the baby’s leg bones and one arm bone to estimate the age of the fetus. She determined the fetus had a gestational age of age of 33 to 38 weeks. Investigators concluded Peterson was killed on December 23 or 24.
A baby boy
She is so full of it!!! She was so confident there would be a new trial- Evil did not prevail, Janey.
He was arrested with a huge amount of cash on him and his brother's ID come on lady! He also had Viagra. Lol
I think she had a thing for him coz ot just doesn't make sense!
his lover to who he said his wife was dead long before she was killed, says she will testify against him again. Thank you!
Amber is more of a man than Scott ever was. She's the one who brought justice for Laci and Connor. The Petersons are disGUSTing.
and so that means exactly what ..oh wait amber will get another 15 minutes of fame
@@ashrpblond are you scott peterson or having a twisted weird fantasy of being with a convicted murderer?
The issue is spiritual - you should seek deliverance (not catholic exorcism) in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST from the demons who control you. The evil spirits/demons can cause you illness and a host of other problems.
Amber is a hero and has her heart in the right place.
@@runaroundsoup Exactly... she was just going out on a date hoping to meet someone who would love her and her daughter. It could have happened to any young woman, seriously.
All this money tax prayers will have to pay, again!... Lacey's parents and family have to re-live this tragedy because of Scott and his selfish family!!! Shame on you all!
I have second hand embarrassment for this women! Scott deserves everything he deserves!
Why is it the sis-in-law who wants him out so bad? What is wrong with calling the baby “little man?” He was a little man! Another trial will not change the evidence. Keep the cold murderer locked up!
How can you be a man if your not born yet?
Nope, he was not a little man, and I wanted to throw up every time I see that woman’s face, she is despicable, she had something off about her, and it wasn’t her hair.
They sound like morons keep saying "little man" making a big deal! Grasping at straws. Desperate.
@@Agent-xb4li she's in love with the killer. It's gross.
@@sophie8394Room Shatt w the son of Sam's killer!🎉🎉 .. Could definitely be a win win
I give Janey a lot of credit for sticking by Scott and all her efforts.
Having said that, the cognitive dissonance of the Peterson family is astounding.
Right, last I checked, the majority of the haters are deliberately spreading disinformation.
He is an Evil person! He killed his wife & unborn son period! Lady when you listen to him talk he says very little about Lacy & Absolutely nothing about his son! Then the fact he died his hair & tried to split the country! At no point just like Josh Powell did he have or show concern for his wife & son! Absolutely none!
Josh Powell. I forgot all about him. Psycho coward.
Yep keeps talking about evidence but never produces anything that wasn’t known about 20 years ago.
His sister in law speaks but where's his brother ? 🤣 Maybe they are penpals and want to be together
Dream on lady. You’ve got blinders over your eyes. Scott was tried and found guilty for good reasons.
How does she think that Laci was alive when Scott left to go "fishing?" Based on what?
Disgusting this woman defending a guy that killed his wife and unborn child so sick she is !! till it happens to her and her child
Why would you fight for someone who you know murdered his wife and unborn baby!! Ew!
how do they no where is the evidence there was never concrete evidence that he did it it was all circumstantial but like the jodi arias case and the casey anthony case, and dzhokhar tsarnaev case they had to get the conviction fast because of public opinion on the cases
@@ashrpblond it most definitely wasn't all circumstantial.
@@jeunebug you don't see everything watching documentaries.
@@sophie8394 Yes, it was all circumstantial and explained away.
@@sophie8394
You're not going to pretend you don't get all your information from the likes of Tabitha or Patty, lol.
The sister-in-law is delusional…😒
This journalist is awful. He needs to ask her....so it's just a coincidence that the burglars killed a woman whose husband was having an affair on her & just a coincidence that he told Amber Frey he had "lost " his wife before she died, and it's just a coincidence that he was fishing in the bay close to where his wife's body washed up, and it's just a coincidence that he lied to Amber Frey about being in Europe when he was at his dead wife's vigil. If the burglars killed her, he wouldn't have to lie to Amber Frey now would he??? Oh AND that burglary across the street didn't happen ON the day Lacey went missing.
I would love for someone to ask Janey why the witnesses she likes to push all changed their story. Why Scott put the boat cover in the shed and then put the leaf blower on it so it leaked gasoline all over it. What was he doing with the leaf blower. If she thinks it odd that Laci was washing the entire floor when the housekeeper had done it less than 24 hours before and they hadn't even been home all day or cooked dinner that night, so why was the floor so dirty that she had to mop it before she cooked or did anything else. If the burglars took Laci, did they kindly go the maternity store she loved and purchase the same pants she had in her size and style and then hold on to her in the hope that the police would let them know where Scott was so they could frame him and dump her body? Why she says Laci was shopping for a sunflower umbrella on the computer when the tech person said it was a pop up ad that was not clicked on? The list goes on. They ask her stupid questions and she gets to spin her false narrative again and again.
Ted Rowlands is squeezed so tightly in Janey Peterson's back pocket it's a wonder he can breathe.
Janey needs to tell the family to get over it. Scott is a murderer.
Janey is the ringleader. The rest of the family would probably just accept it if she didn't keep things stirred up.
They all have to follow suit as long as Lee is alive. Otherwise they will be disowned and cut out of the will like the others who have spoken out about Scott's guilt.
What???? He told the police on the 24th they had a great marriage and there was no other women or men !!! That was a lie !
Scotty boy’s sister, Ann Byrd, wrote a book called “Blood Brother” because she’s convinced Scotty boy is guilty. And she’s right.
Great book
@@nacho_ncam Yes. Also Sharon’s (Laci’s mother), book about Laci is excellent. It was published years ago but you could still find it on Amazon or eBay. Can’t recall the exact title right now.
@@angelwings7930 For Laci.
@@laneybobs8157 Thanks. I couldn’t recall the title even though I used to have a copy. 😂
AngelWings - Thanks. I was able to "borrow" and read the book online from the Archives.
So what….he killed his wife and unborn child. Any other country in the world he would have gotten the death sentence . Why do they waste time with this crap?
Oh lord you do realise that the US is in the MINORITY of countries that still hast he death penalty lol
It’s also California. Manson and fam were sentenced to death and it was converted to life in prison.
Lady ur wrong love your life don't get involved ..Boy he got you fixing your brain. Let it go don't you have a family to live for
Look at “The Behavior Panel”(s) take on Scott Peterson. They read his body language and behavior and it’s pretty clear he’s guilty.
Those dudes are the BEST in the business.
Have y'all heard what they say about EVERY President in the last 30 years? We can't rely on body language to convict criminals.
@@gypsyjengypsydogs9320 The Behavior Panel hasn’t been around for 30 years so your response is null and void in relation to peoples opinions about TBP’s analysis of Scott P.
@@TheDowntown02 I was referring to body language experts, there is a video where they are analyzing various politicians. None of those things trump actual evidence though. That's what I was saying.
I haven't seen the Behavioural Panel's take on Peterson, but everyone should take what they say with a grain of salt. Some of their assertions are completely absurd, and when questioned they do not provide a response.
Oh yea right, he was set up🙄 So his fleeing and dying his hair…screams consciousness of guilt in a normal world. Why does she need him to be innocent of murder but it is totally okay for him to lie about infidelity. If there is a new trial that will be the biggest waste of time and money.
He killed her period
This woman is talking nonsense
His family is delusional. Dedicating their lives to this ridiculous idea he isn’t guilty.
If you notice, about the family, she is the only one that is doing this for him. I don’t see anybody else involved. Which speaks for itself. The guy is stone cold guilty he was then and he is now.!! 😊 I am very thankful that Sharon, Rocha and family did not have to go through this again!
@@jenniferbroadwater6136 His older sister is in on this too. She's another weird one.
@@glorifyenjoy Yes Susan Peterson Caudillo. I think that is her name.
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AMERICAS MOST WANTED ran an episode about Laci's disappearance. This is some information that came in four days after Steven Todd and Glenn Pearce were arrested.
An anonymous call came into their hotline. It is referred to as the AMW tip.
The caller said he had a conversation with two men who were bragging about Laci’s murder. The second man was unnamed, but the tipster gave a description and knew where the second individual lived.
It was reported that the first man said “when they did it they thought it was going to be just another murder case . . . now it’s a big case all over TV and news . . . and they are blaming the husband and they are not getting any attention.” went on to say how stupid everyone was.
The caller went on to say that he knew where the first man lived with his mother; his mother has the same last name. The last name is worth mentioning because four days earlier, the Modesto Police had encountered the Mother. She was present at her neighbor’s home when police came looking for the Medina’s stolen property. There was a strong connection between the Doe family and burglar Steven Todd. Certainly, this would merit follow-up, especially since the AMW operator stated this caller was 100% sure.
Unfortunately, the extent of their follow up was this:
This tip was given to a Modesto police officer, the same officer that encountered the mother four days earlier. This officer drove to the sons house, which was one block away from where he had encountered the mother, four days earlier. The son was standing outside. The officer confirmed his identity and asked where he was on December 24th.
He said he was “locked up.” The officer called the jail and a deputy confirmed that John Doe had been in jail on the 24th, so the officer did not ask any other questions.
The tip did not say he had murdered Laci, the tip just said “they did it.” It is not clear at all who “they” are. However, the officer asked no more questions. The officer never asked why it would be reported that he was bragging about the murder of Laci Peterson; whether he knew anything about Laci’s whereabouts; or about his mother’s connection to the Medina burglary.
It was recently verified the first man WAS NOT IN JAIL during December of 2002. The deputy that had confirmed he was in jail had used an intake document that only estimates an inmate’s jail stay, it was not updated once he was released.
The MPD screwed up big time.
How does she explain him telling Amber laci was dead BEFORE Laci was dead?
The interviewer seems to project what we all think: this woman is DELUSIONAL.
She is delusional, he had the motive, means and there is evidence lots of evidence! He is an admitted liar and manipulator. He showed zero care worry or concern for his wife and son!
Why did it take so long for the appeal to finally make it to court?
Scott dyed his hair, mustache and beard blonde; had $10,000 in cash on him, and was taking off for Mexico. He slipped up on a TV interview, realized his mistake and hung his head down. That's guilt to me!
We don’t need any additional money spent on this case. He’s lucky to get life and not death.
Whoever told her that Connor lived until January is deceiving her. An unborn child depends on the mother for everything to live, once the mother dies that life support for the unborn child stops also. Even if this new trial clears him in the murder of his son, he still get Life for murdering his wife. Lacy came in contact with the robbers, but how did the robbers know to put Lacy's body in the same spot Scott says he was fishing?
he is the killer stop spending family money she is delusional find the real culprit if there is one.he told his mistress he was getting rid of his wife weeks before she was killed come on girl give it up
They're spending tax payers money.
While Laci was STILL alive, WHY did Scott tell Amber... this would be first Christmas without wife.... MYSTERIOUSLY, Laci goes missing Christmas EVE! WOW..... unluckiest guy in the world!🤔
she is a joke
He did it 100 %,ive no idea why the sister inlaw is so invested in him mmm
She's obsessed. Gross.
Oh she’s completely obsessed with him. How embarrassing for her husband.
That robbery she is referring to happened two days after Lacey was already missing...it's rare for burglars to kill random people..
There’s an eyewitness Diane Jackson who reported it to police that the robbery happened on the 24th. It’s documented.
The problem with the robbery happening two days later is that there were newscasters in front of the Peterson home all day on the 26th.
So how could it have been burglarized on that day? I do agree though burglars don’t just kill people in the act because that jumps from burglary to murder but still it makes no sense for it to have happened on the 26th.
Especially when her dog was known to be viscious
Does the sister in law have the hots for scott?
Most definitely 🤢
Yes
She Said they lived close by the boarder both.. does she feel guilty? Weird this is so weird. How Can she be fooled like this. In my personal opinion just weird.
Why did he dye his hair and have so much cash?? Yeah time to come into reality! Let Laci and Conner rest in PEACE!!
🤣🤣🤦♀️. Let him stay where he is. No need for him out here. Nobody else is suspect BUT HIM. After all these years. 😒..
Ridiculous. Scott is so clearly guilty.
Pretty obvious he did it " yeah I'm in Paris!"
He obvs didn't care for Amber, he'd been lying to her the whole time. Guys do it all the time to get in your pants, js
So this sister in law Janey thinks Scott is innocent...Why? I mean he was at the bay & her body was found there. He also died his hair. Does Scott have a history of dying his hair? He also tried to flee. This Janey wants to let a killer out of prison so he can do this to someone else? Laci & Conner need justice!
Also, how many times did he drive that far ass drive to the Marina to stand there and just look?! Didnt know police were watching him.
@@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0 5 times. In 5 different vehicles.
@@sophie8394 Oh right sorry, it was a rhetorical question. Lol I didnt realize it sounded like I didnt know. Haha! Yeah but who's gonna do that and it was like 90 minute drive.
@@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0 I didn't think you didn't know! I was just pointing out the ridiculousness of it lol
@@sophie8394 Ohh, gottcha! Lol But yeah, it is absolutely ridiculous and obvious. I havent seen any updates on the case with the trial situation. Didnt they have like 90 days? That should be coming up soon, no?
Okay what's really going on with Janie? Did she and Scott have some secret relationship? Why is she riding so hard for Scott? She's not even a half-sister. Would she go this hard if she divorced Scott's brother? Her discipline is weird to me.
She is in love with him.
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20 people see her walking the dog after Scott went fishing and all were wrong?
20??? Is that the number now? 😂
The witnesses claim to have seen Laci before Peterson even left home. According to him, Laci was mopping floors, not walking.
None of the so-called witnesses were viable and none could be corroborated .
Why waste tax payer’s money. He’s still guilty as hell!!!
Laci had two ribs fractured at the time of death or shortly thereafter that is not consistent with the whole "soft kill" theory. Her shoulder bone was injured well after death. Then, there is the missing neck, which isn't consistent with any known disarticulation in aqueous environments. How about Laci's uterus that was at least 10 cm smaller than it should have been? So that explains the incision to remove Conner. The injured 9th rib, also postmortemis in the same location where such an incision would have been made. To top it off. Scott couldn't have killed Laci. Conners GA is proof of that. Conner was determined to be alive until Jan 3rd by both the States expert and the Medical examiner? Furthermore, Dr Charles March testified there is no way that Scott and Laci Peterson's unborn baby could have died any earlier than Dec. 29, 2002. Dr Alison Galloway the States own expert and forensic anthropologist, determined the baby could have even been alive as far along as Jan 14th. How is he guilty if Laci was alive after the 24th?
@@aok4418 if ANY part of what you just wrote were true, he’d been found innocent. PERIOD!!!
This woman is kidding right
Come on she doesn’t want to be married to a man who’s brother killed his wife and unborn baby that’s what this is really about. Sad.
This chick is the QUEEN OF DODGING questions with junk answers.
I wonder if they ever had an affair I mean. Really she really misses Scott.
OooooWE, wouldn't that be a kicker? Lol.
This is what I think .Scott probably knows she is empathetic..and narcissistic people know how to manipulate someone with empathy..
People need to look at this case with an open mind, lots of evidence never got out in the original trial.
Why has it always been the sister in law where is his brother all she can say is Scott is innocent ok where’s the proof tho
Thankfully you don't have to prove innocence in our justice system.
@@iammrpositive5108 that wasn’t the point of my comment if they actually had proof someone else did this he would be out already
No one in law enforcement said he was fleeing in court. Talk shows yes..
Clearly scott killed his wife he had been lying from day one
Do they ever express any sadness for the loss of their grandson and daughter in law. They are so stuck on scott. Jesus don't forget your lost two people in your family
Taxpayers should not have to pay for another trial which will not prove him innocent. When you’re guilty, you’re guilty. Nothing can change that.
She wants scott
Exactly 💯
Bad!
I would tell Scott if you ever ever stop loving a gal just leave killing will only destroy your life and those around you your folks completely changed after this happened!! Shame shame on you .. unfortunately he is guilty for not leaving Lacy
He is guilty for killing Laci.
She is being brainwashed Scott is a lying sociopath
If you are cheating on your wife, you better hope yo God she doesn't die.
If you k-ll your wife and fetus you better hope they never find her m-tilated body in the ocean.
Especially if you predict her death
*hope to
Scott peterson, dyed hes hair to avoid capture. FACTS
Police went on talk shows and suggestrd he was fleeing
This fool interviewing her believes he's not guilty either, so he's biased, get rid of him Court TV...
No he doesn't believe that but has to conduct interview fairly
Hopefully he’ll be denied some appeals and save the taxpayers some money.
"love to work with his Hands" Cha!!!
Don't forget he likes to make concrete blocks to weigh Bodies Down in The Bay !! I guess we will give Chris Watts a second chance too 🙄
That girl they nicknamed “strawberry stankbitch” or whatever her name is is the one that caused all this juror misconduct
Can you prove that? Bc Scott's attorneys sure can't.
Scott tells Amber he lost his wife a couple of weeks before she went missing, and this would be his first Christmas without her. And, by christmas, Laci really was gone!
On the day he said that to Amber he bought a secret
boat no one knew about. He also made five anchors, four of which were never recovered. The one that they did have, didn't match the cement in the driveway, which is where Scott said he'd used the rest of the missing cement, proven in court.
Laci didn't know about, nor had she ever been in the boat, yet, a couple of Lacis hairs were found, wound tightly in some pliers.
Agreed to take a lie detector test, but backed out after his father advised him not to.
Upon returning home, he immediately washed his clothes, ate, and took shower. After getting out of shower, instead of just calling Lacis cell phone one more time, he calls her mom and tells her Laci is missing.
He told, at least, three people he'd been playing golf, before finally sticking to the fishing story.
Speaking of fishing, Scott told the detectives that going fishing that morning had been a last minute decision. But, this was an obvious lie because he'd purchased a two-day fishing license dated for the 23rd & 24th, a few days before. Or, maybe he's just psychic, and predicted he'd be making that "last minute" decision!
When he took the detectives to his warehouse, he led them to believe the power was out, when the truth was, only his office in the warehouse had lighting. but the warehouse, itself, was only lit by a sky light during the day.
When he went to the station to answer questions, he was already referring to Laci in past tense. Saying. 'Laci was pregnant. Shouldn't that be IS pregnant? It wasn't past her due date. He did the same thing in his interview with Diane Sawyer. By then, he'd been made aware he shouldn't do that, as he immediately corrects himself saying, "is amazing" after he'd said was. A huge red flag for the detectives on the case
On the night of Dec 24th, the day Laci went missing. Scott was already inquiring about grief counseling for Lacis family. Really??? She's not even yet gone a full 24hrs! I've never heard of anyone doing that over someone being missing for only a few hours! It just seems like Scott knew she wasn't coming home.
The next day, Scott called the detectives asking them if they'd be bringing in and using cadaver dogs. She hadn't even been gone a full 24hours, and, he is inquiring about cadaver dogs! Another huge red flag to the detectives working the case!
He sold Lacis car while still missing, before her body was found. And, inquired about selling their home before she was ever found too! He even wanted to sell it with all their furniture! Supposedly, he doesn't know if Laci is dead or alive, but has no problem selling her car and their home, with all their stuff in it.
He told lie after lie after lie. Of course the big, well known lie was when he called Amber from Lacis vigil. Right before, during, or after just doesn't matter, at all! His mistress should've been the last thing on his mind at any moment during that event.
It was well known he didn't want children, and wasn't thrilled about Laci being pregnant. Even telling his sister-in-law he was hoping for infertility. Laci telling her mom Scott wouldn't touch her belly to feel the baby kicking.
He didn't participate in the searches for Laci, opting instead, to secretly go to the bay, park his car, and just watch the search that was going on in the bay.
Instead of showing grief about his wife being missing he, instead chose to flirt with his sisters baby sitter. Offering to make her drinks he called. 'flirtinis". The baby sitter was so weirded out by Scott, she left!
In one of the recorded calls with Amber, Scott tells her that if the police find any evidence, he'd lose his freedom. Not a confession, but close enough!
When the due date, of the birth of his missing baby came around, he didn't have a gathering of friends & family to remember Laci & Conner. No, he didn't do anything at all to remember them. And, that would've been fine, if he chose to do nothing, no problem. But, he DID choose to do something. Since that day was also Ambers Bday, Scott chose to celebrate it, by hiding a bag of jewelry and a CD, etc for Amber to pick up. It seems it was Amber he wanted to remember & honor, not his missing wife & baby.
When a body of a baby washed ashore, and then a body of a woman who had been pregnant washed ashore shortly after, within just a couple of miles from where he says he was fishing, he never even called anyone about it to see if it was Laci. About a week or so later, he was caught trying to flee with just about everything he owned, BUT his golf clubs and golf shoes. I add that he didn't have his clubs & shoes because Scott tried telling the cops that he was just going to play golf, not flee! However, the list of things he had with him is just as long, if not longer than my list here of the evidence!
I could go on & on! I know there's more, but I'm drawing a blank on the rest. Can anyone else think of anything I've forgotten?
Okay so, one or two things on this list would be maybe a coincidence, three or four things sketchy, but okay.
All these things plus more--he's guilty, guilty, guilty! And, don't even have it all listed here.
Wrong
Brent Rocha confirmed that Scott did indeed plan to have a family, and was quite emotional about becoming a father:
Mark Geragos: And also fair to say that she was very excited about the kid?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: Okay. And Scott was as well?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: When he talked about, when you talked to him, he would express the fact that he's, I mean he's a goal-oriented person; you heard that description earlier today. You would agreed with that, right?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: And is, one of his goals was to have a child and a family?
Brent Rocha: Yes.
Mark Geragos: Okay. And he told you that he was thinking about what kind of father he was going to be and he was crying and he said he was going to be great; isn't that what he told you?
Brent Rocha: That's what he was saying.
Sharon Rocha confirmed, on Larry King Live, that Laci told her Scott had changed his mind about having a baby shortly after they moved to Covena in October 2002:
ROCHA: “that's when she told me that Scott had said that he didn't think he wanted to have children. Of course that concerned me because we'd had conversations before in his presence or they had had conversations in my presence about having children.
KING: So then it shocked you?
ROCHA: It did. It really surprised me.
KING: But then she got pregnant.
ROCHA: Well, then she went on to say that not only did she -- that he didn't think he wanted to have children, she also said that he didn't want to. So, I was -- I was really upset about that knowing that he knew how she felt about having children.
And then it was about a month or so later, it was around Thanksgiving time she and I were in the kitchen preparing dinner when she told me that she's going to stop taking birth control pills in December. Well, that surprised me because it had only been a month ago that Scott didn't want to have children.
So, we had a conversation about that and I said, "Are you sure? Are both of you absolutely sure because you can't put the baby back once he's here"? Well, it was an it at that time. It was nothing at that time. And she said, yes, that they had talked about it and they were ready that Scott was ready also.
Greg Reed gave testimony about Scott's and Laci's relationship, and Scott's participation in Laci's pregnancy.
HARRIS: You also, Kristen, your wife, became friends with Laci, is that fair?
REED: All four of us met at the same time.
HARRIS: And they became friends separate of you and Scott? Kristen and Laci became friends?
REED: Yes, they did.
HARRIS: And at some point you and your wife began a Lamaze class at your home, is that correct?
REED: That is correct.
HARRIS: And you asked Scott and Laci if they would like to join in the Lamaze class?
REED: That is correct.
HARRIS: And they agreed to do that, right?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: Okay. During about a one month period, they came to your house on a weekly basis to participate in the Lamaze classes, is that right?
REED: That's probably about right. About once a week.
HARRIS: You got a chance to see them interact quite a bit during that, didn't you?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: And your impression, from telling the police, your impression was that they were a very happy couple?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: And, in fact, you told the police Scott treated her very, very well?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: They both, I believe your quote to the police was they were both very excited about the baby coming, is that right?
REED: That's what it appeared, yes.
HARRIS: And you were called in an interview you did with the police, excuse me. Let me take that back. Do you recall an incident at one point where you were looking through a catalog called Cabella's catalog?
REED: Yes, I remember that.
HARRIS: What is the Cabella's catalog?
REED: It's a hunting, fishing, outdoors-type of magazine. And equipment.
HARRIS: And they actually sell kids' camouflage outfits, is that right?
REED: In that magazine they were.
HARRIS: In that particular one?
REED: Yes.
HARRIS: During that time you were looking at it, both you and Scott were going through the, the kids' section or the kids' outfits,
hunting and fishing, or whatever outfits, and the two of you were talking and laughing about how much you couldn't wait to buy your kids those kind of outfits, is that correct?
REED: I remember that clearly, that's correct.
HARRIS: Okay. Scott was very excited about that possibility, wasn't he?
REED: Yes.
-DID NOT FLEE
He was heading North. Last time I checked Mexico was south of the border.
He was arrested at the golf course where he was meeting his brothers and Father. A recorded phone call was played by the defense in court where Scott tells he doesn't want his picture in the media again.
-He calls Laci's mom after checking the voicemail.
- CALL TO SHARONS
DISTASO: And can you tell the jury, just tell us what happened.
ROCHA: When he called he said, "Hi, Mom." He said, "Is Laci there with you or over there?" And I said, "No." And he said that her car is there, was there in the driveway and the dog was in the backward with the leash on and Laci was missing. I remember telling him to call her friends to see if anybody had seen or talked to her that day.....
-SELLING THE HOUSE
January 14, 2003 First hint at selling the house
Terri Western.
WESTERN: Yes, I did. As I did every morning. I was either the first one or one of the first that had arrived. And Scott was there that morning, and he was visibly upset. So I sat down next to him while he was going through the e-mails on the computer. And I said, "Scott," you know, "Are you okay?" And he said no. He goes, "I need to talk to you about selling the house. I can't have Laci come back here."
DISTASO: And what did you respond to him, if anything?
WESTERN: I responded with, "Well, Scott, I understand. However, now is not the time nor the place to discuss this."
DISTASO: And did he mention that to you again about selling the house?
WESTERN: No, he did not.
(Trial)
No effort was made by MPD or by the Defense, apparently, to determine what upset Scott so much. Scott didn't mention selling the house again to Western. Instead, he turned to Brian Argain.
January 22, 2003 Scott again inquired about selling the Covena house
"Scott called Brian Argain to inquire about selling the house. Transcript The phone conversation lasted 4 minutes and was captured in one of the wiretaps. Scott asked Brian about getting together with him to discuss the possibilities. He wanted to put it on the market right away, as a furnished home, and wanted it kept secret from the media. Scott said, 'no way is Laci coming back to that place.' Brian said since LE had already searched the house, he didn't know of any reason why Scott couldn't sell it, but he would check for him. They arranged to meet for lunch the next day to continue the conversation.
-WAREHOUSE *LIGHTING
Scott said there was no *lighting. Not "Power". His warehouse didn't have working lights. Hence Brocchini used the lights from the cruiser. Brocchini was called out on his lie during trial when he admitted he was aware of the fax that was sent and the indicator lights on the electronics. Brocchini lied, NOT Scott.
-Laci's Land Rover
January 29th , Scott traded in their Land Rover for a 2002 Dodge Dakota pick up. We offer the following facts regarding the trade-in of Laci's car:
Scott had asked several times for his truck to be returned to him (see Detective Grogan's testimony). It was not going to happen so Scott needed to make other arrangements because he needed a truck for work.
The used, 2002 Dodge Dakota that Scott purchased on January 28th was worth less than the 2002 4x4 crew cab F150 the police had confiscated. The suggestion that Scott was uncaring and went to get a new truck while his wife was missing is unreasonable. Scott had a new truck before Laci went missing, but it was in police custody. Her car was traded in for the Dodge out of necessity
-Boat was NOT a secret
Scott withdrew the $1400 from his joint checking account with Laci.
He did not try to hide his identity from Bruce or the DMV. The DMV had records 12-9-02 the same day with Scott's correct name and address.
-He told the police that Laci knew about the boat and that she had been to the warehouse on December 20.
-Brocchini was told about an eye witness who confirmed seeing Laci at the warehouse. When he heard about this witness in August of 2003, he purposely left it out of his police report. He admitted at trial that he excised the information from his police report and acknowledged that he did not think it had been reported by any other officer. The woman later confirmed that Laci was at the warehouse on December 20. Detective Brocchini LIED. NOT Scott Peterson.
-Guy Miligi told police on January 4, 2003 that he and Scott had discussed purchasing a ski boat together prior to December.
-Jodi Miligi told police that Scott discussing a boat one to three weeks prior to Thanksgiving.
-Brian Ulrich told detectives on January 4, 2003 that Scott had been discussing buying a boat for over three months.
GERAGOS: And you told him that you remembered Scott talking about a boat, fishing, or a boat over three months before Laci went missing?
ULLRICH: Correct.
-He looked at onother boat on December 8th. It was not registered with the DMV, and didn't buy it.
Do you think any of this would be wise if it were a "secret boat"?
HAIR WAS NOT WRAPPED AROUND
PLIERS
HENDEE: No, it didn't wrap around the pliers, didn't wrap around the needle nose. It just went through. It looked like at one location it just went through the pliers.
Nancy Grace "round and round and round" the pliers. Other reporters also characterized the hair as wrapped multiple times in the pliers when it was NOT.
Even testing came back negative and the criminologist determined they were too rusted to have been used in the crime.
-DID NOT MAKE FIVE ANCHORS.
These alleged distinctive circles that Brocchini said were on the trailer resembled rectangular shapes from cement bags from work he did at house in September. The pitcher the prosecution alleged Scott made the anchors in didn't even fit.
Geragos: "I've got a sixth-grader -- that looks like a triangle to me."
Hendee: "If you look carefully ..."
(Prosecutor Harris objects)
Delucchi: "The jury can see it. They can draw their own conclusions."
Geragos: (pointing to various shapes) "Is this a circle? ... Is this?"
(Harris objects repeatedly)
Delucchi: "Sustained, sustained, sustained."
Geragos: "Ever go out into the fields where they have those circular patterns?"
-CEMENT DID MATCH THE SAMPLE IN THE DRIVEWAY
CONCRETE EXPERT
GEBLER: Yes. In our sample we found fly ash, cement, pea gravel and sand, similar to what was described by Mr. O'Neill.
GERAGOS: Does that mean that the cement that was used in the anchor and the cement that you've collected here and the cement sample that you also observed, does that mean that they all are one and the same?
GEBLER: They're all consistent. They all have, they all have all, from what I saw, the, the, the anchor and these materials are consistent with each other.
GERAGOS: What does that mean?
GEBLER: With the concrete.
GERAGOS: You say they're consistent. Does that mean they have all the same components?
GEBLER: Yes, sir.
The States expert didnt know the difference between a sub base and the actual concrete. How could he, since he didn't even go to the scene, Gebler however did.
-AGREED TO POLYGRAPH 3 TIMES
1)BROCCHINI: Would you be willing to take a polygraph?
PETERSON: Sure.
BROCCHINI: So what you’re telling me Scott is there no, you have no idea where Laci is.
PETERSON: None.
2)BROCCHINI: Would you be willing to take a polygraph?
PETERSON: Yeah . . . They're accurate, right?
BROCCHINI: Yeah, yeah, I mean I, it's not nothing that can be used against you, but yea, I believe they're accurate.
PETERSON: No, I'm certainly willing.
BROCCHINI: It wouldn't be now, it'd be, ya now, in a day or two.
PETERSON: Now . . .
BROCCHINI: It's just like the next step in this thing.
PETERSON: Sure.
3)Scott arranged an appointment with Melvin King for February 1, 2003. He was due to meet Amber Frey at the office of Expert Polygraph Services, but upon arrival Peterson saw Brocchini and could not see Frey in attendance. Believing that Amber was in collusion with Law Enforcement and that this was a set up, Peterson left.
-SCOTT ASKED ABOUT COUNSELING FOR HER FAMILY.
PETERSON: The only question I have what about resources available. You saw my mother-in-law tonight, uhm, anyway, you saw some of my wife’s friends, myself…
BROCCHINI: What do you mean like for?
PETERSON: Counseling and that kind of thing.
-Scott Cadaver dogs
"7:20 pm Scott called Brocchini to ask him if they were using cadaver dogs to look for Laci in Dry Creek Park. Brocchini told Scott he hadn't considered her being dead yet, so they hadn't used cadaver dogs. They talked for 5 minutes. Since Scent dogs can also find dead humans, those who knew they were using K-9s may not have known the difference between a K-9 and a cadaver dog."
-GOLFING VS FISHING
He told ONE person he was playing golf, Not three. He told only Amie that he was golfing.
And she testified he was upset and distraught.
McALLISTER: And as you -- you gave us an impression of just questions kind of gushing out of you, and you said that Scott didn't answer them, but you had question on question, apparently.
KRIGBAUM: Uh-huh.
McALLISTER: Is that kind of a -- does that kind of give us a window into your mental state at that point?
KRIGBAUM: Yes, I was --
McALLISTER: Pretty excited?
KRIGBAUM: -- I was -- I was nervous for him, so --
McALLISTER: Did he seem -- did he seem pretty upset?
KRIGBAUM: Yeah. When he came to the front door, he seemed distraught, yes.
McALLISTER: How did you -- and you've seen him before, right?
KRIGBAUM: Uh-huh.
McALLISTER: How would you -- how did you know he was distraught?
KRIGBAUM: I don't know. You can just tell someone's distraught, when they have adrenaline going through them and they're scared or, you know, anxious, you can tell, and you kind of feed off that, so that's how --
McALLISTER: And you never -- you hadn't seen him in that state before?
KRIGBAUM: No.
He told dozens of people he was fishing including police. At around 6:11 pm, the first officer, Sergeant Evers, arrived on the scene after Laci was reported missing. When he asked Scott where he was that day, Scott immediately told him that he had been fishing that day in the bay. Scott also gave Sgt. Evers his receipt from the Berkeley Marina parking lot to show that he'd been at marina that day. Cell phone records and transactions confirm where he was.
"Harvey testified that he told his wife and multiple others that Scott told him that he'd gone golfing on December 24th . However, no one testified that Harvey had told them that. Harvey did not tell the police until June of 2003 that Scott told him that he'd been golfing, despite the fact that Harvey knew his wife had been told by Scott that he was fishing and the police were publicly trying to corroborate Scott's alibi for December 24th . Harvey Kemple also testified that he saw Scott lose his temper once and slam the lid to their barbeque. Scott and Laci's barbeque didn't have a lid. And finally, Harvey testified that he was told that Scott had been hanging out at the Del Rio Country Club while Laci was missing. When asked who told him that, he identified Dennis Tobin and a Country Club employee named Stephanie. Detective Grogan testified that when they followed up on Harvey's claims, they found that Dennis Tobin never saw Scott at the club while Laci was missing and there was no employee named Stephanie. So with Harvey Kemple's credibility in question, that leaves two people testifying to one instance of Scott saying that he had been golfing on December 24th . (Unlike Harvey, Amie Krigbaum did tell police in late December that Scott said he had been golfing that day. It is unclear when Terra Venable first told the police that she heard Scott say he'd been golfing.)"
Message left by Scott to Laci.
"Hi, beautiful. I just left you a message at home. 2:15. I'm leaving Berkeley. I won't be able to get to Vella Farms to get the basket for Poppa. I was hoping you would get this message and go on out there. I'll see you in a bit, sweety. I love you. Bye."
---You said
"Scott tells her that if police find any evidence, he'd lose his freedom".
You called this close enough to a confession.
FACT
Scott said He wouldn't be free "If police *had found anything. . ."
Close enough to a confession huh.
@@aok4418 Shut up Scott.
Just stop already...no more spending taxpayers money
Oh my…. She’s brainwashed. So sad.
So it's the biggest coincidence of all time is why he's innocent....he lost his WIFE DECEMBER 9TH and then really did lose her ...remember his other sister Said he's guilty..scott said he was going golfing then instead went fishing with no proper fishing gear for salt water...