Why The Try Guys Scandal Hijacked The Internet
Vložit
- čas přidán 20. 10. 2022
- The Try Guys' Ned Fulmer cheated on his wife and the scandal totally hijacked the internet. The question is: why?
~
Where I get my music: share.epidemicsound.com/wjmjw6
~
TikTok: / dodford
IG: / dodford
Twitter: / dannymcmahon
~
danielmcmahon.co.uk
linktr.ee/dodford - Zábava
"It's human nature to want to kind of see a car crash and Ned Fulmer had been going 90 on the opposite side of the road after 10 years as a driving instructor." WHAT A LINE
Eyyo I’m your 1,000th like 😂🎉
What a raw ass take. Poetic even
@@yeethittter1285 too beautiful
No, he said that line and I was just blown away at the accuracy
I’m subscribing to this channel just for that one line!
SNL was so wrong for that skit I hope they saw all the negative feedback and have changed
A lot of people believe that skit was done on purpose as Ned had mentioned that he had a university friend who is a writer on SNL. Lo and behold, the friend's name is credited as a scriptwriter.
@@aznmochibunny The friends wasn't mentioned in the drama until after so I don't think it was intentional. Also the situation with ned was huge online but it didn't get big outside until the snl situation. No one was expecting it to get that big. It's unreasonable to expect a random passing comment about someone he's friends with made on their podcast once would get so much attention. It's literally a 3 sec clip and the podcast wasn't about snl and it was made years ago wasn't it?
@@yukikanegawa7470 The SNL friend was friends with both Ned and Alex and was mentioned by Alex in the Try Guys podcast before the drama.
honestly SNL really just isnt that funny, some things are, but in a corny way, but some things are garbo.
Fr I can't believe they thought it was a good idea
It’s so funny that this guy is so bland that his main identifying personality trait is doing the bare minimum a.k.a. loving your partner
It is sad that actually loving your partner is like… memorable in any way. I adore my husband and brag on him all the time. I can’t imagine a world where I betray him in any way, much less sexually. Adults should talk about their differences, not sneak around!
Its sad cuz he could’ve brought his knowledge on chemistry or love of sports into the mix somehow and made that his personality while still mentioning his wife. Sigh
Most men aren't like that (so open and articulate about their love) so that's why many of us admired him for his supposed love for his wife. Sadly it wasn't real.
Oh my god yes
omg i never thought about it this😭
"Men holding each other accountable is still not a common practice". THIS!!!!!
It's exactly this!
Yes!! I was so glad to hear this!!
Unfortunately it's a norm for both sexes. Our society excused men for a lot shit they did while demonizing women, but instead of holding both sexes to the same standard going forward, we just gave up and threw the standard out of the window. We should bring back some shaming in society, people won't be held accountable otherwise.
@@ne0nmancer that would only lead to people getting shamed over the lies or small unimportant things. Its just like asking for Witch hunts to be a thing again along with public execution of witches. If you think people can shame others on a responsible level, than you have not been around humanity.
When have females EVER been held accountable for anything by ANYONE? THIS!THAT! THERE!
Men hold each other accountable ALL THE TIME. women are not a priority.
And women do? Cmon girl. Also they didn't hold him accountable, they did what they thought would get them more money. The dude didn't commit any crime. Cheating is not a good thing but its also not a crime. They have zero right to hold him accountable lol.
I don't get "cheating". If you feel like you no longer in love/both are at the same place/fallen for another person, have a talk, separate or divorce and then proceed with new relationship. This is how mature people deal with it. Ned turned out to be irresponsible and hurt lots of people. I'm very sorry for Ariel and their children.
Sometimes people don't even cheat because they want someone else, but because they're unhappy with some part of their life/relationship and satisfying your emotional/sexual needs with a "no strings attached" side deal can be easier for some than assessing their own feelings and communicating their needs to their partner. Truly sad and pathetic to make a loved one bear the brunt of one's own issues like that. Ariel is a queen and I hope she's doing okay now that the media has thankfully left her alone.
@@bonni2920p. My ex cheated, multiple times by the time I found out. Now I had already told him I thought he was experiencing depression. He had been made redundant and lost his car as a result, it was a rough point and he changed, slept most of the day and gamed all night, stopped showering etc.
He came at me with I wasn't having sex with him enough. Okay if that's what he thought. I did have my own issues and a teething 8mth old and post natal depression myself, but was seeking help and trying my best myself. He refused to even consider the idea that anyone but me needed any kind of help BUT he wanted me to stop as he believed the anxiety meds made my libido drop. Not his lack of hygiene and inconsistent behaviour around the household. He also became abusive due to his depression.
Years later he's admitted that he was depressed and really just feeling absolutely shit about the work and car. That I was 100% right and also justified in my own disinterest in sex, that later on reflection me screaming at him in one fight: if you showered for me like you did for prostitutes I'd fuck you... Was completely justified and should have been at that point a wake up, not taken as an insult and another way to say I'm unreasonable, because who wants to have sex with someone who's not showered or brushed their teeth in 4 days.
If he had sought help, if he had just even gone to a dr or something to appease me, he agrees he might have done better. Might not have hit me. Might have kept his shit together and not essentially ruined his life by fucking up so badly and having his family also force consequences, not just the law and our relationship end. He's had issues trying to have relationships because everyone knows how bad he got/it ends up coming out and the fact he physically abused me has ended a lot of relationships and also lifelong friendships.
it;s cuz they are selfish and possessive. it's their ego that is making them do that.
As a polyamorous and autistic person, I second this. I just don’t understand not having open and honest conversations with your partner, full stop.
From what I've heard, it's rarely about wanting someone else. It's usually about control in some form. Control over their partner if they're mad at them, control over themselves if they feel helpless, control over emotions if something big happened, control over finances if they feel like they're not getting enough... It usually comes back to grasping for something to feel like they have control over anything. I can't say what Ned was thinking during this, I just have what I've heard.
It’s so sad how SNL’s immediate response to cheating was to undermine it, and say it wasn’t a big deal
Bearing in mind that SNL has had quite a few instances of sexual harassment, I'd say that they don't care much about cheating either
'it was consensual!!!' Yeah I bet Ned's wife consented to her husband cheating /s
It wasn't.
Except for a few emotionally over invested weirdos no one gives a stuff what some presenter does in their spare time.
@@FekDindad-xy9vz and yet, here you are. Commenting on a video about it.
@@leafyveins4985 yeah because weirdos overreacting is legitimate entertainment.
Ned's apology came AFTER the Try Guys made their public statement, and he made sure to pick the same font and keep it black & white so it looked like they had been planned together. The remaining guys are salty about it.
Most likely his lawyer put out that statement.
They salty since they all have equal royalty. So yeah he still gain something with the company without working with it
They were! They addresses it in the pod and Keith especially. He said that he was unhappy with Ned doing that bc it made it looks like they made a joint statement, which they didn’t and they were not on board with what he said. He was more upset than that but I don’t remember word for word.
@ErnPrivado then they shouldn't have fired him over personal issues 😂 can't have money and be morally intertwined. Other networks would've done their best to get ahead of things before it blew up.
@@PhotoJeticPoet this is such a pathetic take. They did not fire him over personal things. They fired him because he was fucking an employee.
That has the potential to capsize a company in a legal sense and a brand in a public view sense.
You are brain dead if you consider this to be a personal matter.
They were the 'good guys' of the internet. It was nuts to hear something like that
At one point I appreciated that they're the one non-independent creator that I enjoy watching without thinking about drama. God fucking dammit, Ned.
Keep thinking that, you’ll definitely go somewhere with that kind of knowledge…
That would be Rhett and Link for me, but I get what you're saying
pathetic "good guys" meaning guys who woke women like? like your gay best-friend, but not gay?
Define "of the internet", only teenage yt gals cared ijbol
Ok but the newspaper articles victimizing Ned when he literally CHEATED ON HIS WIFE are insane to me. Like they said that keith zack and eugene were the bad guys when they literally did nothing wrong. How the hell did they get away with publishing those articles?
Ned is from a very wealthy, well-connected family and he went to Yale so he has access to this Ivy League professional network as well, he and his parents have a lot of powerful friends in media and journalism
He cheated on his wife with his *employee*, which is not just immoral but illegal. The guys did the legally and morally correct thing by getting rid of Ned.
@@pinkcupcake4717 this. I think this wouldn't have been nearly as much of an issue and that they would probably try to figure out how to fix it instead of kicking him if the woman he cheated with was a subordinate at the company.
I also find it hard to believe that none of the other guys knew. Especially when the internet spit out so many pics of the two of them and the people that worked with Ned saying they aren't surprised with how he was behind the camera. The company wasn't that huge and disconnected nas even with bigger companies word gets around.
@@mordecaiissad8529Maybe, but people love to be in denial when it comes to their friends
@@pinkcupcake4717 the fuck no? its not illegal to have relations with an employee. don't make shit up.
All of this broke the day I found out I was going to lose my job. Ngl, it helped to be like “alright I have to find a new job. But at least THAT’S not happening to me. “
To be fair, he also had to find a new job. But I think his search is going to be a lot harder than yours was lmao, I hope you found work you like!
@@hityawiththepunktactics that’s why they’re grateful that’s the joke
That's a good mindset
@@hityawiththepunktactics unfortunately, he’s back to working at Buzzfeed behind the scenes. It’s really disappointing.
That's hilarious, best of luck to you!
I will say you're the first person I've seen to point out that their first video independent from buzzfeed was about Ned's baby shower.
I will just say one correction which is that Ned's apology was released AFTER the Try Guys released their statement that he was no longer with them.
Yes! And I know this because on their podcast where they talk about the situation, Keith mentions how he thinks Ned choosing the same font was a passive aggressive attack.
exactly right and this is important because ned copied the style of the try guys post which made it look like they had co-ordinated it when in fact they didn't
They were released at about the same time, within an hour of each other. The guys had sent Ned a copy of what they were going to release before they released it, so he wouldn’t be blindsided. That’s when he copied it, not after they posted it.
Exactly, it's a situation where the accused is "only sorry because they got caught".
@@Voldycat THAT is exactly what I saw.
Yes, the others knew. At least a month before news broke. But the way Ned wrote his statement made it seem like they had known for way longer than that.
He could’ve saved things a little bit more if he’d written his note. It’s not like the words meant any different. But the same format was a psychological game on a lot of people. They’re automatically gonna peep the similarity and start thinking deeper. But no, instead of even trying to be sincere, Ned copped out multiple times.
I think that mainstream media really doesn't understand anything with the internet
i always feel like im on boomer territory when im there
Honestly the mainstream media should stay out of the internet’s business
@@pandagal9805 fr
@@pandagal9805the MSM needs to hold the internet accountable and vice versa
that and in that industry things like inappropriate affairs (and potential harrassement) are sadly also still looked at as 'normal' in a lot of places
I think the most shocking part of this scandal is that the other guys held him accountable and fired him. Very rarely do men get held accountable for these actions, especially by other men and even more so by the men in their own circle. Huge respect for the other 3 guys.
@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x played a part sure, but doubt it played a large part and it was very clearly not the driving force. It was their ethics and morals. I would bet money they would have taken the same route even if they hadn't known Ariel personally.
Dudes hold each other accountable for stuff more often than you think.
@@cheapskateaquatics7103 no they don't.
@@cheapskateaquatics7103 keep believing that lie 😂 lmao
@@droid2D2C3P0they do it more than women hold other women accountable
I just want to point out that Ned's comment about what happened came out after the company's. On the first podcast episode after the scandal broke, Keith and Zach even mentioned that Ned used the same/a similar font as their post, and implied that he did it intentionally.
It definitely felt like he was trying to give the impression like they put them out jointly or something like that. Not sure if the try guys felt that it came off that way, but that is the vibe Ned using those same font gives you. I wonder if that’s why he went with the basic white background as well?
@@reneebush2399That's what Keith and Zach assumed it was in the podcast. They say it carefully but clearly enough.
@@reneebush2399
Most likely it was his lawyer that put it out and not him.
I absolutely love that
@nicoleskorupsky1007 but its still In Ned's name, which means any fall out from that post goes back to Ned
They are important because they connected emotionally with their audience, which is why this became such a huge thing, we became invested in their lives, seeing this felt like a betrayal
That's the problem with parasocial relationships
maybe you should get real friends then? cause that’s weird
@@sammysoppy3361 parasocial relationships exist in all and any forms though. people have favorite movies, singers, dancers, shows, games, musicals, books, etc. and they have favorite characters, actors/actresses, and etc. finding out that one of those people did something horrible and feeling sad or down or betrayed is a normal feeling. that’s why we feel sad when our favorite actor/etc dies or gets sick or something. those relationships are a part of life. yes they can be toxic as can any other relationship. but people are allowed to have feelings and thoughts. that’s a part of the human experience. growing attachment to a famous person happens and we all have one, whether we want to admit it or not. we are all fans of someone.
I think most people who made videos about the scandal were not even part of their audience
You can enjoy their content without feeling apart if their personal lives. Dwelling in para social relationships is not a healthy thing to do.
As a kid who grew up with a cheating father that dragged on for many years, news about seemingly wife loving husbands cheating on their spouse breaks my heart. It’s a traumatic experience for the kid and wife, luckily his kids are still young, hopefully they won’t remember much of the ordeal. But as a 8 year old kid, going through that with my parents broke my world. My family fell apart and there was nothing I could do. And no matter what people say about “i’ll always love you even if we divorce”, yeah, but my family is no longer the same anymore, it’s different, and I never got to see my dad much anymore because he has his own family with the women he cheated on my mom with. He’s a responsible dad and was very financially supportive, but it’s not the same. You just can’t really fit in to his family when the women he married was the person who brought so much pain to your family.
Heck, I loved Ned _because_ I came from that kind of home environment myself, it was nice to see that loving husbands and parents do exist, but then THAT happened
@@nschannel826 same. It made me felt hope and wonder what that family environment would feel like...
Nah I get it too, it's TRUAMATIC for the kids too. People think " well it isn't your business" BULLSHIT it is. I caught my mom in the act and that is stuck with me forever. I'm sorry you also went through this. I hope you're healing properly in a healthy manner
Agreed. My dad always seemed so head over heels, borderline obsessed even, with my mother. They did everything together it seemed when I was young. I felt somewhat lucky as a kid that my parents loved each other so much. I found out about his infidelity as a young adult and it forever shattered my image of my family and father.
Had a friend who's dad cheated on his wife and when she found out he beat her to death in front of his mistress and tried to make his son, AKA my friend, take the blame. Apparently he said his wife "had it coming" for gaining 40 pounds due to his abuse making her addicted to junk food.
He was killed in jail.
SNL was so embarrassing for that
it was SUCH a low blow especially considering that they’ve had some sexual harassment/assault allegations too.
Ned wrote the script 100%
I was completely surprised they decided to go that way. Totally dismissive and actually factually wrong. Then Becky (Keith's wife) posted "Isn't one of Ned's friends a writer at SNL?" and it turned out that friend wrote the script. Made Ned look even worse.
@@benkenobisgirl omg really? 👀 That's so pathetic... (eta: saw part of the vid where it was brought up.. Definitely pathetic 😂)
SNL made themselves look so suspicious with that skit.
There is no way I could ever cheat on my wife. She is, as corny as it sounds, my sunshine. We have been been just only 4 years. Her and I have a healthy poke and prod together. I do small things to make her day as much as I can.
That’s adorable
King vibes, i have the same kinda situation here :)
I may not know you but man I like you❤❤❤
My hubby feels the same too .. there are still decent men out here 😌😢
You know, ned used to say the exact same thing...
man. I grew up watching the try guys. I loved them so much that's why seeing it first on twitter when Ned cheated was a huge blow on me to the point that I didn't believe it at first. Coz cmon, Ned the "i love my wife" guy seriously cheated?? No way. But then it really did happen and it blew up so much on social media. Despite all, i still love the remaining 3 and my support will always be towards them.
same :/
‼️I always thought it was weird that he made such a big deal about being married he wasn't the only one of the TryGuys who was married. I thought all of the guys were married, but Ned was the only one who turned it into a personality. And that always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I am married. My husband and I are best friends we really do love each other we've been together for like 10 years and even though I deeply love my husband I have a life outside of my husband and my husband has a life and interests outside of me. So it always felt like Ned was overcompensating. That could just be me looking back with hindsight. At the time I thought it was because he just didn't have anything else. Some people don't have any interests or hobbies. So i thought he had just latched on to being married as his personality because he felt like he didn't have anything else that made him stand out from the other guys. And maybe that is true. Maybe that's why he made such a big deal about being married and loving his wife and family when he obviously didn't actually love his wife and family that much.
Watching them through high school really helped me feel comfortable in my own skin and I just can’t stop loving them 🤷♀️ Ned really was my fave cuz of his love and how much I wanted someone like that 😅 but like the whole driving instructor being curious about a car crash….he could’ve seen if Ariel was down to swing or something and then divorce before pursuing whatever her name was, I’m sorry I’m too lazy to look for her name 😭
😂 corny
😊
the actual SNL skit feels like a fever dream. like what was that even.
It was so badly done… poor writing, poor choice in words, acting was bad, cast choice was bad… 😂😂 seriously if they wanted to normalise cheating and sexual harassment they should have tried harder 🤷♀️ they shouldnt even have done it in the first place
Have none of you ever watched SNL before this point?
The guy didn't just cheat, he had a whole extramarital relationship for like a year with a woman who worked for him.
And that woman was engaged to another man at the time I think I remember reading. How sad that so many people got hurt.
Apparently he had been doing it for longer than a year too and the fiancee had talked to him about it and told him to stop or something. IIRC there had at least been a suspicion
The storytelling and editing is always on point 👏🏼
thank you dude 🙏🏻
what got me that you missed was that ned wasn't just "the wife guy who had an affair", but that he was A) a founder of the company, B) head of HR, and C) the one who wrote all the employee paychecks, who had an affair with a subordinate. it's clear that she was just as much a willing partner in this crime, but even if she hadn't been, and he'd hit on her, where was she to go? he's HR. he is the only one who oversees her payment. and there's no one more powerful than the company founder/s. granted, we know the other 3 would have stepped in to protect her, but if he'd been careful and made sure she never had proof, would they have believed her? no one knew until they got sloppy and stopped trying to hide it. the proof came from outside the company, from people who saw them out, and even then it only mattered bc it was a kiss, a violation she couldn't have done even with the sole intent of exposing him, without hurting Ariel. even if she'd been forced and coerced, all she could have done was leave the company and we have no idea what he'd have done to retaliate, and even if he didn't, he'd have just tried again with whoever took her place. that, to me, is what made this so wild. every single possible way to look at it is absolutely fucked, and it all happened on the public stage. absolutely wild.
Even if it was non-consensual whether it be him coercing her or her coercing him the only person who would have a say in the matter is Ned because of his status. Also I have a feeling that it’s not just Ned who works HR, it’s definitely the 4 of them working together considering they own the company and putting just one thing onto one person would be not only too stressful but doing things like this would make it foolproof and he could easily continue abusing his power. As far as I know Keith knew that Ned used to be the frat-boy type so that history isn’t new to the guys. If they knew this they definitely would protect anyone who were to come forward with any information that would go against him. Its also not fair to blame him solely if it was consensual like he says it was because it takes 2 to make that decision, I’m not saying this is a possibility but considering he handled the finances and if she knew that she could’ve done it for a higher paycheck if she was that desperate but again it would take both of them to make that decision. Like you said regardless how you look at it it’s a really fucked up situation I’m just upset that YB and the other guys got caught in the crossfire and were left to deal with the mess and I feel really bad for Ariel and the kids who will probably grow up without a father figure in the household. For someone who talked about his wife so much and loving her so much he clearly didn’t do such a good job of it.
You cant assume a man will coerce someone into having a relationship with them just because you dont like the guy. Also in the world these guys live in theres no way the employee wouldnt have been believed if she said there was coercion
@@mrkillman555 do you normally comment on things you haven't bothered to actually read, or is your reading comprehension just that poor? just curious.
@@Moon-Vixen What have I misunderstood about your comment?
@@mrkillman555 the entirety of my comment is that every possible scenario is fucked, no matter what direction you look at it. I didn't "assume he coerced her because I dislike him", coercion is just one of the many fucked up possibilities. it's also very clear from her own actions as well as those of her ex fiancé that it explicitly wasn't coercion, that she was just as much a willing participant and I said as much originally. I don't believe he coerced her, even if his position gives an inherent power imbalance. but *both* roads lead to terrible ends.
as well, no, she could not have known they'd have her back if she had been coerced and needed help. the fact that this even happened and surprised people showed we didn't *really* know any of them like many thought they did, we only knew what they wanted us to see. if one is willing to do something like this, who's to say his closest friends aren't ALSO like that? or that they'd side with a woman they've known only a few years over a man they've been best friends with since their school days? men are known to close ranks and support even men they've never met before, having a close bond with one only makes it more likely that they'd take his side.
as shocked as everyone was by ned's actions, everyone was just as shocked by the rest of them actually ousting their friend and standing by Ariel, because of just how unusual that is in ANY workplace. it's fantastic that they did, even more so because they now lead by example and can be pointed to as the golden standard for workplace sexual misconduct, but hindsight is 20/20. no one truly knows how a man will react until it's too late. the "bad" ones look exactly like the "good" ones, and when you're risking your safety, it's not a guess you can make lightly. every woman knows relying on "the men will have my back" is like expecting a prince in shining armor to take us away from all our problems. it's just not a reasonable bet to make.
hence: every single path she reasonably had is fucked.
It probably wouldn't have been as huge as it was if it had been any other dude. But his ENTIRE persona he portrayed to the world was being a good husband and father. He didn't really have many other... redeeming? qualities to his internet persona that could've maybe softened the blow to his image, because you can expect (to some degree) that any other person could end up in such a situation, but not the dude whose entire shtick was being a good husband. It was crazy. He obliterated his entire image just like that.
Dick move but people make mistakes.
@@babu357 fucking your employee isn’t just a “mistake“ tho it is a massive liability for the whole company, most companies have policies against this, and it is pretty standard that this is a fireable offense.
@@bebop2523 yeah it's also a whole ass power dynamic like sure it was consensual but also at the same time Ned har the power to fire her if she had said no
@@aceofpentacles2k not just that but it would cause all types of other issues, like was he using business money to pay for their dates and claiming they were business expenses work meetings, was he giving her preferential treatment that other employees didn’t get, etc.
@@babu357 Cheating isn't a mistake, it's a very purposeful and deliberate choice
Ned was the wife guy because he didn’t have any other interesting traits. His ‘love’ for his wife and family was his only relatable and likable character trait. I always thought it was weird and made it kind of obvious that Ned wasn’t enough on his own to hold viewers interest. He’s selfish point blank, didn’t care about his family didn’t care about the other guys or the staff. Not sad he’s no longer apart of try guys.
What funny, is that he does have traits he could of easily brought in. He’s knowledgable. And could of easily play into his science background as part of his story. Play the “smart guy”…. But he choose not. He choose to only focus on “mah wife”. Which was alright when he was the only married one. But he no longer the only one in a relationship. “Mah wife”, can work… BUT only if there are other things to compliment it. But he choose not to
Hey girl we got the same name but agreed he’s selfish and chose an affair over his career and family.
He's the only one of them i don't remember/recognize. A very forgettable dude... other than this.
"Ned was driving 90 mph on the wrong side of the highway after 10 years as a driving instructor" really encompasses why i was invested in this story, not as a watcher of Try Guy's but as someone who is old enough to have grown up with CZcams.
A lot of people focus on the cheating thing and forget the fact that not only did he cheat on his wife (who was their close friend), but they where also incredibly hurt that their friend would open the company they built out of nothing at a huge personal risk to a lawsuit that could crumble everything they built. All just for a fling with an employee.
Like putting aside his deplorable behaviour to his wife and kids this was worse than if he met with an unrelated stranger at a bar.
WOW
This was seriously one of the best videos I have seen on this matter (which has already been dragging for weeks now) Informative, straight to to the point and extremely well edited and commented. Nice job!
so weird how ned had an incredibly pretty and nice woman he was with, and threw it all away for no reason
The storytelling here is something else🔥 had no interest for this scandal until I watched this. Dodford doesn’t miss
that's the plan! thank you Hernán
From what I've observed around me,the more the person expresses to OTHERS their love for their partners and kids, the higher are chances of them cheating and even being sexual predator 🤡
it’s a “protest too much” thing where they try to divert attention and also sometimes are trying to convince themselves. cheaters piss me off cus they’re always massive liars as a base character trait
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. I had this one college prof who was constantly gushing about his wife and kids and was also a self-described angry feminist. He later got fired for demanding sex from female students or else he’d fail them (all of the students were adults, but the majority of them were there on scholarships, so failing a class would seriously jeopardize their chances of graduating); the doting feminist husband persona was entirely an act to cover up both his cheating and his predatory behavior.
@@Luv2sing836 Jesus Christ 😭
I've heard it's called "overcompensation" where the guilt of cheating is slowly eating them up that to make up for it they start treating their lovers more kindly, more loving.
I remember beginning the SNL skit like “oh it’s not so bad, it’s poking fun at how this internet drama blew up and maybe overshadows more important news…” and then it quickly became clear they just wanted to shit on some CZcamsrs. Fun.
There are so many content creators with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and views but arent very good at making something meaning full or really interesting but over time I know your channel will get the credit it deserves its just a matter of time
Imagine men who are standing up for fidelity in marriage and accountability and being made fun of for it... This is what's wrong with our society
I feel so bad for Ariel, she deserves so much better than a liar.
I do feel like the snl skit was planned to make the other try guys look bad. Mainly because we know Ned is friends with 2 snl people. Ned might not have been involved but I feel like that writer friend did it on purpose
100% but i do believe Ned was at least tangentially involved. Very embarrassing for all the SNLactors involved
I think what you said about the Try Guys' videos being "wholesome safe spaces" is so important, because they managed to show that sometimes maintaining that is difficult, and requires removing people who go against those wishes.
This was the best way anyone has tried to share this with the internet community. You did well.
This is an amazingly made video. Honestly a bit upsetting how underrated it is! Good job, this actually showed me how /deep/ this really was.
i started watching the try guys right as they became their own company but slowly stopped over time; the scandal pulled me right back in, both to see what the hell was going on and what they would do moving forward. this was such a good watch, the editing and the scriptwriting were absolutely stellar!
i love how seriously you took this topic unlike snl. while some people may not understand and see it as a “random affair” lives have been changed and people have been hurt immensely from ned’s selfish actions. i know this is old news, but i recently got back into watching the try guys and this video explains the whole situation well. i’m happy they try guys have majorly been able to move away from this.
I think the try guys actually released their statement first, on the podcast they were a little mad that Ned used the same font and made it look similar to theirs, like they planed it together
“Men holding each other accountable is not a common practice” exactly!
Thats why everyone was so shocked when ned was fired from the company. From locker room talk to sexual harassment, men are not held accountable to their actions by other men, let alone women. According to statistics, 10 out of 100 rpists get reported, but only 1 out of them get jail time. Snl did their vid in poor taste. It was disrespectful, disgusting, and pathetic. For something so controversial it was so badly done too. They should have tried harder with the amount of copium they were on as they loved normalizing adultery and sexual harassment.
it’s insane because i always thought of them as this picture-perfect couple when i was younger, hearing the news right when it happened was a massive shock
I also think one thing that made it so huge it's that right about the same time on the same algorithms you would see try guys content, you also would see tiktoks and videos about how men who call themselves as "Nice guys" could also be horrible people who are only nice because they are expecting things in return. Ned built his entire career as a "Nice guy", nothing more than the "perfect husband", and when it all came down it completely destroy his entire credibility and persona that he has put in the internet since day 1.
I think the proximity to the John Mulaney divorce and Adam Levine cheating scandal amplified it as well because it became something beyond Ned as an individual: people were critiquing the image of the “wife guy” as a whole and the algorithm was pushing that content in return
WOW not the skit writer being Ned's friend
You also have to keep in mind that in the same period also Adam Levine (another “my wife”-man) was held accountable of cheating. So the public was already fuming with Adam, that’s also why the Ned was so criticised
Also the controversy with John Mulaney, another wife guy, happened at the same time.
i remember seeing a tweet 2 days before it blew up detailing an entire reddit post ab his accusations.. and i saw small things ab it in the next 2 days b4 it COMPLETELY blew up i was hanging on to everything i could find
Well, I watched the donald glover vid, and just finished this. Holy crap dude, you're really talented!
You showing up on my feed randomly shows you're boutta go places haha. Keep it up my guy!
Same I got recommended outta nowhere an I’m subscribed 🙌🏻
Another potential factor to the… tasteless SNL skit may be that multiple big wigs at SNL have been caught up with sexual harassment. If they sided with the other try guys, it would mean acknowledging their own behavior. Which would means quitting/being fired.
Your videos are so well put together. The editing is so good!
I think it’s really symbolic their logo is a TRI ceretops and they have 3 guys now
Barnes and Noble near me is still advertising Ned’s and Ariel’s book for Valentine’s day RIP
I think Ned also retraumatized a lot of people who've dealt with infidelity. You trust your partner with your life until you discover that they broke your trust in the most fundamental way in a way that you might never be able to trust anyone ever again. Ned was held up by fans as the ideal husband and him cheating just re traumatized people and i think that's part of why this blew up
Absolute killer video, have learnt so much about storytelling ever since I found you! Amazing as always @dodford!
THIS is how you deal with a situation like this and I’d like to thank dear Keith, Zach and Eugene and many other Try Guys workers for handling it so well. I was initially devastated about the news, having been with the boys since day one. Never thought the unthinkable would happen.
I don't know why CZcams algorithm think that I will be interested in this video. But the storytelling and editing are so on point. Subscribed.
Your timing and choice with the music to accompany your well written essay were impeccable. Well done!
I was so surprised how big the scandal got, even as a frequent viewer. it actually shocked me
everyone leaves out that he didn’t just cheat, he did it with an *employee*. him cheating was immoral but not illegal or cause for his removal, it was that he took advantage of a power dynamic between him and his employee, and it’s great that the rest of the guys took the right actions.
The man was in charge of HR too smh
Great video! Really kept me engaged with the editing and script. Thanks for making this!!
i love how you covered this- all the flair of a dramatic documentary but with a grounded and fact-based narration and conclusion; it's the first video of yours I've seen and i'll definitely stick around!
This question his literally been in the back of my mind from the start. Never watched them apart from the occasional video catching my interest on my feed, but certainly as a longtime user and lover of CZcams I've known them as Titans with many admiring supporters.
The official statement trended so rapidly that in spite having not watched them even once for a few years, it was front and center on my feed and somehow caught my interest.
I had zero context and only became more confused as this whole thing swelled into a global mainstream media fiasco.
Thanks for finally clearing this up. The thesis was absolutely perfect and you presented the information concisely for someone who stated at square zero. I barely knew who Try Guys are, now I actually understand a lot of the angles at play here, particularly what the fans experienced.
Thanks for a truly solid, informative and poignant video essay. ✌
Less than 2 years later Eugene is gone and theirs views have absolutely tanked…the CZcams algorithm is hard to please
got me hooked from start to end, such a great video, it's not even a subject i was interested in but the curiosity got me!
Great editing and story telling. I hope more people find your vids
It's insane that no one is addressing the parasocial relationships people have built with these guys. Like it's okay to be shocked and just saddened but people were reacting like they were personally violated by this scandal lol..
I love seeing Boze in other people's videos 😊
THE CLOSING SONG..... IM DYING HAHHAHA WHAT A NICE WAY TO END A STRESSFUL SITUATION
Fantastic way to end a video. Never been so satisfied with a CZcams commentary, the background music and a lovely conclusion. Perfect. Chefs kiss
Absolutely agree! The last soundtrack was really catchy, does anyone know it's name?
This video was incredibly well made, props to you!
The SNL skit misstep is a generational thing- that boys are challenging the ‘Boys will be boys.’ attitude endemic to all of history in a real way could be revolutionary.
man i just watched your video on donald glover after this and wow. subscribing immediately - the editing and video quality are absolutely insane
your narration is very clear simple and straightforward. loved the video 🫶🏻
I hate you for making me watch this. It's the only thing I've watched on this whole thing because I didn't care and I still don't care. Thus proving your point on storytelling. Brave sir. But I'm still mad you got me to learn about this fiasco.
this is my favourite angry compliment I’ve received. thank you
I hate how many people who talk about this ignore the legal issues in the power dynamic that comes with Ned sleeping with a subordinate. Thank you for mentioning it
Exactly, I’ve seen so many comments about this going “they were two consenting adults, it’s their personal business“ no it’s not if those adults is the other one’s employee
@@bebop2523 Umm yes it is. There’s nothing illegal with employee/employer relationships. Literally it’s not illegal. It’s entirely dependent on the company to file a law suit. These types of relationships happen all the time, heck most of our parents were in these relationships. Don’t conflate this with rape or a lack of consent. The reason why this behavior is discourages is because companies are concerned about lawsuits. There’s nothing inherently wrong with these relationships. Its the potential for sexual harassment, but his was conseual.
There’s nothing illegal with employee/employer relationships. Literally it’s not illegal. It’s entirely dependent on the company to file a law suit. These types of relationships happen all the time, heck most of our parents were in these relationships. Don’t conflate this with rape or a lack of consent. The reason why this behavior is discourages is because companies are concerned about lawsuits. There’s nothing inherently wrong with these relationships. Its the potential for sexual harassment, but his was conseual.
@@TheRed02151 when did I ever say it was illegal? I know this relationship was consensual but even so it opens a company up to all kinds of liability and causes all other manner of HR issues, which is why it is not “their personal business“ anymore, because it affects the company as a whole. “Legal issues” in the original comment can refer to civil law as well aka lawsuits
Absolutely wonderful. You keep outdoing yourself!! Love it man.
sean 🥰🥰🥰
I literally knew nothing about this until today. Thanks for the coverage!
From what I've learned. If some keeps boasting or trying to find ways to bring up a topic like. " I love my wife so much" or " I'm a nice great guy" ect. Assume the opposite
Amazing editing and storytelling! Loved this
damn dude this is a top tier video, I hope the algorithm gets it shit together and pushes you to the top
How am I just seeing this video ? It’s well executed! What a masterpiece! How has it not blown up yet ?
beautifully put! things got put into perspective and so easily understandable here
What a hook! I honestly didn't care at the start, but 30 seconds in I was like wow, I'm still watching.
LOVE to hear this
I noticed - and after this finally realized - that when someone's whole personality is basically "MY WIFE, MY KIDS" gets in this kind of scandal very often. And I can't understand why you have to cheat. I get that at some point in your life, the passion/emotions/love can dwindle and it is most likely not your fault. Why can't you be honest about it with your partner? When you cheat, the repercussions are so much worse for all the parties involved, especially for someone who made a whole BRAND out of your "family life"
I knew vaguely of the Try Guys but had no idea why this incident blew up. This was a great description of them and the situation!
Eloquently made. Thank you for this.
I’ll never get over how pissed Eugene was in the response video 😭
I don’t care much about any level of celebrity, and have never gotten truly upset or saddened by anything like this that’s happened to celebrities. But I had a genuine reaction of shock when I heard he cheated. And it IS because his marriage was his brand. I love(d) the try guys but he was probably my least favorite, but I did find his love for his wife endearing. But just seeing a member of a group of guys I found to be generally “safe” completely betray values he’d been displaying for years was troubling. It hit a nerve.
As a long time fan, while I'm glad The Try Guys has now gained a lot of the attention they deserved, I don't know how I feel about them gaining that attention through this drama specifically. I think that's the reason I'm getting kind of tired of it honestly.
I'm impresse with how you've covered the story and its participants. Excellent attention to the detail, I'm your subscriber now
This was an excellent dissection of the situation and I think you really got to the heart of it: people cared so much because it was such a shock from the public persona
Your production quality is really spectacular - and you have a soothing voice 😁 subscribed!
crazy how this doesn't have more views, the quality is **chefs kiss**
Great video! I've never seen someone go so in depth!
this is really respectfully and well made. way to not stoop to the level that both sides have been stooping to, very good video!
You make like, really well edited videos sir. I will watch your career with great interest.
Love the uploads - always great! Keep on creating man - you'll be at 1 M in no time
This video is incredible. Could you make a video explaining how you made it
Amazing video!! Your editing and commentary are top notch. Subscribed!