J Krishnamurti - The Real Revolution - 5. What is love?
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J Krishnamurti - The Real Revolution - 5. What is love?
What is the state of the mind that asks a question? Who is going to answer it? How does one find out what love is? Is love pleasure? Will the conscious mind find it out? If I make a conscious effort then I must have recognition of what it is.
To enquire, one must be free of belief, and therefore of fear. To find out what love is, one must enquire into the question of pleasure and desire. Thought gives desire continuity and vitality. This must be discovered actually for oneself. Is it possible to look at something extraordinarily beautiful and merely observe, without the interference of thought?
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A good teacher is the one who don't answer the questions but help his students to find the answer. This guy was one of the great teachers, i have ever seen.
Couldn't agree more!
Yes... totally agree 💯
The sound of his voice, the expressions of his face and eyes are so beautiful,
how gentle love is.
Except when he regularly shows his tongue...
@@coucousalut4899 what??
@@coucousalut4899 that is funny bro😌
this human being and his divine message changed my life fundamentally.
Ehsan Ojani Divine?
Give me your number with country code
For sure buddy amazing awareness of the human conditioning / mind
It is not easy to ignore this learned honest soul
sry but it's not his divine message but ur own understanding of his message.. what refreshes it is not the glass with which you drink but the water by which you quench your thirst.
The truth is always fresh, even after 100 years if one hears K's speech the freshness remain as like today.
You ever wonder how much amazing lecturers were never recorded
Innumerable indeed - but the fact there exist over 3,000 recordings is remarkable in its own right!
It's "that" same thing in his every lecture and that is *{seeing something totally as it is}*
~ Attention, Sharp Enquiry & Untangled perception are the tools here.
I think it`s not exactly about quantity,it`s more about quality=)
“A mind that suffers is a most stupid mind”
He suffered a lot before he said it. Don't take things on face value, nobody's perfect
"When you like a flower, you just pluck it. When you love a flower, you water it daily." ~Buddha
What is the message in this ? For a day to day living life
@@dep234 to find what's something needs!! To understand something deep enough to help life grow
@@dep234 no, when you like something you are egoist, when you love something you want happiness for him. Sorry for my bad english i’m from italy, and i cant explain the message of buddha in the real deep significant.
@@chazzypark1076 Your English being bad isn't a problem; you answered Deepak's question perfectly ;-)
To love is to share your love because it's overflowing.. Be love so that you may share it with others without expecting something in return..
When a student is ready the teacher show up, K show up and my whole world shifted. Forever grateful 🙏
True with me too..
“My whole world is changed “… really, the world is changed? The world is changing every second…I’d it an image is already changed with devision category “my world”, the student is ready is another controversy of psychological time…be cautious and fully attentive my friend. Saying my world is changed means you’re lighted up forever…? Or revolution through observation is going every second, every moment..
Perhaps in order to find love, there´s no need to work hard about love. Every hard work creates a pattern in the mind, brought by thought, which avoids the discovery. One must acquire love totally in one single take or not at all. In deep meditation, when the self ( not ego ) observes everything, and everything becomes the observer, suddenly all pieces are placed together and everything becomes clear: Love, desire, fear, pleasure. If you understand one, you understand all. If there´s fear, there´s pleasure, and a pattern. When there is a pattern, there is no love, because love is total freedom. So, when there is love, there is no fear.
Very true!! When we see clearly who am i , whatever remains is all Love ..where there is no separation , only oneness which is inseparable.
I think this man was way before his time as you could see the confusion and lack of understanding in the crowd. Many today get his message of one and experience...his time is now.
@Patricia Booth
I was simply struck / shocked seeing the faces of all those people in audience...
I think also today not too many people understand what he is trying to say. There is only so many people that can dive into the deep parts of their souls and only then you can try to understand what he is saying.
How can you know what the crowd think ? You are interpreting...or making a projection of your own mind...
Thanks to internet we are able to seek some of his wisdom and hope this will help us live in this world happily and peacefully
Before what time?
One must find out what love is not. To be able to find out what love is.
Yes, and the "is not" list is very long while the "is" list have nothing written on it.
@@baptm727 Wow,yes, true!
@@baptm727 that's problem that list is so long and it.
Burst of love around him. You can see on the audience's faces
This man, whom I fondly referred to as Krishnaji has miraculously led to "the flowering of one's mind", quoted in his own words. His teachings take life of its own if one is at all serious in understanding oneself & the world in which one is caught. The teachings clarify every day challenges that come in one's way, thus helps one to get by with a cheerful smile. He says that the ending of conflict is the beginning of freedom. In contemplating this, one becomes aware that the psychological self which one has mistaken for one's identity is the centre of conflict; it is made of mental stuff only - and the seeing of this fact by itself ends the identification with it. With that there is freedom, as he says "the mind can only flower in freedom". In that complete freedom, all his teachings become crystal clear to the mind. That's how he has helped transformed my mind. His life was a testimony of selfless service, his teachings are par excellence. Truly, J. Krishnamurti lived in Truth & Love. My humble bow...
One work hard the whole day to earn a living; one need even harder persistence to resolve these fundamental questions.Greater things have greater value.. its life itself that one is elated to ! What a pity, that very few take him serious in this materialistic arena !
Why would anyone talk over any of this man's words? Every thing he say's has wisdom. Is there a version where the commentator doesn't speak over him in the beginning? I thoroughly love this man's wisdom!
FOR REAL MAN...I WAS LIKE "CAN HE JUST SHUT UP I WANNA LISTEN"
Thank you once again for posting his Wisdom. What a joy he is/was.
absolute wisdom indeed
I would hardly call krisnamurti a joy
Ha ha .....no I agree...he is rather dry! BUT I always come back to listen and pick up a few nuggets every now and then. He also is different with different people. His interview with Jonas Salk was somewhat more joyful but he does often come across as contemptuous. When people responded he often said 'Go slowly! Think first!' but when they didn't he said 'We are here together to talk! Not just listen!'
But few people made 'not following anyone' as clear as he did!
I do find it always strange how he arranged his hair to cover the baldness, but that aside.....................
one of the problems with this type of relationship is that though he is articulating quite eloquently possible solutions or insights into human existence behaviour etc there is very little if any clarification of understanding on the part of the listener
@@CalumnMcAulay you cant see It because you have a different idea of Joy, probably similar to excitement.
Krishnamurti was saying that people just want to have the suffering abolished, the challenges lifted, the inconveniences gone, and it's true. It's the wistfulness of the lazy mind. People don't want to take responsibility.
It reminds me of a gnostic quotation: they love the fruit but hate the tree.
Another gnostic quotation that is relevant: unless you understand how the fire came to be, you will burn in it.
That deepening process towards consciousness is called meditation.
ONLY AN AUTHENTIC LOVER CAN EXPRESS THE INEXPRESSIBLE................
How different he is from the crowd and our culture. I have no psychological fears apart from never be able to find by myself what he has found.
Yes ☺️👌 thank you, I fear the same!
He is talking about being totally in the now, without any thought. The more you practice it, the more you'll be able to get a space time between thoughts. This space between thoughts is quite (there is no thought to listen to). Try to feel the wind on your face, feel it totally without any thought. Just be there completely. You will feel Love. Eckart Tolle talks about the same things in a way that might be easier to understand. Weed helped me to see it.
@@leonardkeret where do you think tolle got his insight from 😁
Why would you compare yourself to a man who has dedicated his whole life to it? That's a little unfair if you ask me. 😁 and remember what he said about comparing
JK never found anything and either can you. Go into it as he is saying and you'll see for yourself, there is nothing, NOTHING.
You are what you seek already but your beliefs and ideas can and will cloud Awareness.
His teachings give tremendous pleasure and total awareness in one's life if we listen without any background of our created images and prefixed opinions and prejudice. It is divine message. I love him very much like as Buddha
something which is permanent. Free from belief, memory, control,authoity,freedom.Desire leads to bondage.
I always believe love shall be mesterious to be cuddled, and forever to be learned.
A crystal conversation of life through love , naturally ....
The ending of you is the beginning for me, so you are never die. You are always in the deeply hearts of all your really listeners. 💪🏻
" Do we know what suffering is? We know what suffering is when we remain it..." Profound.
Just impressive, thought provoking and soul searching!! 🙏
Thank you for sharing real love.❤️
Master! You saved my life. It is unbearable to live inside this head here. And your showed me that this space, is the real! Not the mind! Not the world! Is this immense silent mistery. You showed that I don’t need to live in this unbearable head
Words cant describe observation awerness or God its our responsibility to discover.
It is more than divine.A practical way of thinking which we all lack.
Gracias por subir este material 🙏
I love this one so much
If you can't love yourself then you can't love anyone..
Which means if you can't take care of yourself, if you can't handle your emotions in worst situation, you can't fight with situation strongly, if you can't make your life better by your own or independently..
Then how are you going to take care of your loved ones,
How are you going to handle the emotions of your loved ones,
How are you going to make your loved ones ready to fight strongly with situation, how are you going to make someone's life better...
The sun burns you but doesnt burn itself - if you want to love yourself, then what's that thing that will love you? . Do you see the problem in your statement?
What's yourself?
It's simple... u need to know urself... explore it... all the answers, discovery are indeed present... great one...
For my limited mind, love is hearing you speak sir.
J Krishnamurti one of the greates people of our Time. Connected visions. He does not speak from his own.
So captivating.
That's right.
•Dwelling on the desire strengthens it and gives it continuity. Makes it pleasurable. •Observe without interference of thought. Thought without interference of desire. Then Action gains a different meaning not tainted with Desire.
• Love is the same Energy as Hate.
• Is there a method to free the mind of Desire?
There is no method.
he seems so vital and so alive. wow
*AWESOME*
00:00 - 10:00: about how do we have to dive into these type of fundamental questions.
10:00 - 20:03: pleasure seeking, desire and thought
20:00 - 25:30: on suffering
25:31 - end: about knowing oneself
It is everything ..
Cold as a winter’s morning 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I know He may have not wanted me to call Him a Guru, so I shall call Him my Life mentor :')
If he is your mentor. Then you have not learnt a thing
You don't learn anything here. It is about
I am only person who knows that your right and more good than who are saying that you have not learn anything because it is also ego to say that you have not learn anything
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Love IS Life; Itself. And it's Conscious of Itself. And it's Eternal, Itself. And that's WHO WE ARE. Let's change the world with thIS enlightenment, thIS knowledge, thIS Wisdom, and thIS Truth.
Namasté; loving, sharing, caring, and giving.
"Within L.I.F.E., Love Is For Everlasting."
At least he pointed a way towards discovering love and gave some hints. Basically, he used this question as a click bait. Truly ahead of his time.
He encourages one to sit with good questions rather than quickly come up with mind made answers...
baby don't hurt me.
No more
this is the greatest good ever . sorry to put it in such a simplistic way . its discovery of the highest level.
as K says .. do it do it do it .. jumping out of his seat . please do it .
suffering is of a stupid mind. never ever has anyone thought like this. GOD. how radical. suffering is a form of self pity. to pity , we think is caring for self, valuing self. does this care end it ? ever ended it ? has anyone ended suffering by self pity ? yet we keep on doing it . feeling of being wronged , maybe when we pity ourselves . sickness needs care , so we think we take this thinking in the psychological realm too .. never questionning it. but this guy Questioned. and he is showing the way
do it do it do it ... K keeps us urging allthe time.
Inspiration for Yoda
I think this man is what people have been meant by Jesus over the centuries
So young here!
I love those clothes of people who is listening.
Right SIR🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
我的天啊 有覺知的人都知道 他已經在教方法了.... 問題本身就包含答案 但是同時他又把純粹的元素拿出來 給學生 自己處理 終極老師!
I love u
He never answered the question. But brought about another question. Is it possible to know what love is without the thought interfering? You have experienced it before so it is through memory. So it is not possible to know it without thought. Only thing this talk is good for is that its bring the idea of self knowing. Observing own suffering (or other emotions) as a observer. I used to like his talks as I was young, but now I feel like they are meaningless because they are not concrete and very contradictory. For example, suffering is created though thought by self pity, so we should be in a state to where we accept it, so accept the thoughts that bring suffering or any other emotion. Emotions equal thought. So love is a thought, which in turn the observer observes, to which it want to react to because it bring about pleasure. Pleasure equals survival. The question is what mechanism is creating these emotions of survival. Is it our primitive biology, the elephant upon whom sits the rider (the one that reasons). When you ask who is the thinker, who asked that question? Is it something detached from the physical body? Would it exist if the body wasn't there? The one that is yours and the one that is mine, is it one or is it different?
"5. What is Love?"
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Love, suffering, God etc can not be known by a conscious and a mind seeking it perhaps for pleasure etc because mind is restless and can't be totally focused to these dimensions because it is anxious to find it so not 100% in rest with that enegy/dimension which it has goal to find. Untill we have quiet mind which can become quiet only when wisdom arises(again it can't be achieved by agitated mind seeking a goal for wisdom!), that wisdom is the state of self knowing and it is the only one capable to know anything and everything with complete engagement with energies/ dimensions and not seeking pleasure etc at that time of it's engagement. To get a qualification to have this possibility of wisdom or self knowing, tremendous sensitivity, alertness, patience,persvereness, needed which is much more than required to earn livelihood. It is only for serious people who can work so much hard not in the aim of money or pleasure and is mentally( and obviously physically) capable enough to have this sharpness of mind.
How do you know what a quite mind is without an experience of what a quite mind is. Please remove your expectation and find out
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this is beyond me,
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Baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more 😂😭🎤
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I got so inexplicably infatuated with someone that he got scared of me. I was shocked and sad when that person whom I cried day and night for, insulted me in public. And yet my obsession with him would not go away.
Is it my jeevatma that is in throes to meet with the Paramatma that I mistake as my love for him because of Maya? Is it the element of perfection in him that makes me see the element of Paramatma in him?
🔝😊🌷💙 G E N I E 💙🌷😊🔝
Know thyself
We still didn't got anything about love .. is it so megered everything ..
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The way one listens to j krishnamurti, should be with full involvement in finding out WITH him, and not as he points out "waiting for him to answer." It is more of enquiry with the company of a friend. It is a more active process, a more individualized process. I realise I am already creating a method throught finding this, why am I doing it?
Love is the only Engery that creates UNITY and UNITES for GROWTH. IT UNITES MALE AND FEMALE TO CREATE a NEW LIFE.
FNKOK 51214 not trying to be an ass, but hate can do those same things you stated?
Question stil exists
At 9:30 there is mention of right eating and behavior, there is little mention of this in the teachings as far as I've been able to look into.
I don't know how it would be possible for right eating and behavior to happen without effort, I've tried to look into it but with no succes.
Then what is right behavior? what is right and wrong eating? Are these prerequisites for everything else ?
Are truth and knowledge related to each other? To discover or come upon the truth about something it is necessary to discard all knowledge related to that something. And, if this is so, how can truth and knowledge be related to each other? Only when the known has been discarded can there be love.
Do u have video of jk answering the question and the end of thr video which was put on to him
Baby don't hurt me.
I was looking for this comment
I am not getting this comment what it means, did jk recite it in this video?
it seems that questioners in this video could not answer fully the meaning Suffering ( in Buddhism) when JK asked them. There are ways to make oneself understand what is suffering and what is the meaning of relieve from suffering in Buddhism. It would need a long explanations to understand . What JK explained here is also a way to understand and know what is suffering and what is not suffering.
Lepo da so tudi slovenski podnapisi :)
Thank you. It's good to know that Slovenian subtitles have been helpful.
En español por favor !☕ Gracias !
it's been about 3 years since i'm trying to understand these people and watching videos and nothing stais with me
I will answer you with a question, if I may...
If the glass is full of yesterday's water what must you do to put fresh water in the glass?
2:14 👌😊
With all due respect to all, if you think you can describe love, hate and may other human emotion by WORDS in any language, and pass it to another person or listener,,,,, well, you are very much mistaken.
It's in the inference AND if a person can actually perceive what's happening in higher dimensions, it's there too........the phenomenology is real.
Also, the act of awareness is a revelator in and of itself......
Stay cool.........
THE SIOUX NATION of north America "it is pronounced SUE" , have a saying for men using big world out of content, and understanding of others,and it goes like this,"" A man who talks a lot and says nothing"".
If one can teach my friend or a listener, the filling of ""giving a hand to the fallen"" and that man can Feel what i Feel, then i give a job to that teacher to straiten out all the criminals in all the prisons in all the world.
All i am saying that human emotions are beyond description, specially as one gets older and have not achieved it when was a child and to give it a try in childhood, it will be close to the infinity of power of 5.
Best regards to you stefos,Tony.
+waikarimoana
Hi Tony,
What I'm trying to express is that you can't put spiritual realities into language...you can only approximate. The brain is material, our essence is not. The brain/body is an interface that's all.
Have a good day!
Well said and i totally agree with you, i believe in a power that holds matter together, and called or named in many cultures and religious with thousands of name, and all are one.
With best regards, tony.
waikarimoana from where do you think you know that the other ones are mistaken? you mean you know it and the other ones dont know it??
So, what is love? I still do not know.
Bitte mehr auf deutsch
Can you please add arabic translation a lot of arab people will benefit from this serie , Thank You
What you are searching in comment section?
10:00 how to find out what love is?
Desire is suffering.Avoiding desire is suffering. Desiring a state of desire less ness is suffering.. 3 rings of marriage. Engagement.ring . Wedding ring . And then comes the suffer. Ring .🖖❤️🙏🌞🌎💘
I don't understand what he teaches Psychology or spiritual thoughts. I respect J. Krishnamurti. Please explain somebody.
Why do you want to categorise him. Just listen, understand & reflect 😊
Spirituality is deep psychology
It's not your time dude.. Try when you are older.
You are in right track, i wonder one say i understood specially jk by watching 15-16 talks, he takes time to be understood, so carry on
No introduction needed for JK. You are actually disturbing!
Period
love is nothing more than FEAR of being alone... period!
He also says love never dies, so i think love is more than what u think.
And then we can love ourselves too, love is not always have to be given to another entity/ self :v When we love ourselves, we don't have the fear of the absence of ourselves.
Just look at confused audiance..