Bosch IDS 2.0 4 ton Heat Pump Installation Why Pipe Doctor Installs Bosch
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2021
- Why does Pipe Doctor prefer and chooses Bosch over other HVAC manufacturers? Because Bosch makes the best equipment! Today we removed a Rheem R22 oversized 5 ton system and installed the Bosch IDS 2.0 4 ton Heat Pump.
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This is a very detailed video. Thank You bro
That was a lovely infomercial.
We love you raw and uncut. The desk talky salesy stuff isn't you. First vid of yours I had to fast forward. Love Mikey Pipes being Mikey Pipes. FJB #LGB
What a clean braise job that is so clean! Also love Bosch what a sexy unit
Great video!
Nice Job. The three amigos ride again
Mikeyyyy pipes use right and left angle snips they are awesome will cut it smooth will send a photo of mine tomorrow cheers
Glad to hear you like it. My A/C guy just ordered one for me to install in the fall. Same 4-ton. I'm hoping the more complicated multi-speed blowers wont be problematic long-term.
@@PipeDoctor My question if if higher SEER units are worth the potential problems in the future due to their complexity (some guys say to keep it simple). I see a 10 year warranty on the Bosch, how comprehensive is that? Thanks.
How many square feet was your house?
Having a 3 Ton version of this installed onto my York natural gas furnace forced air system! Really hoping it cools good. Great rebates
Have mine paired with a trane furnace - works great.
Updateing to a easy trap,How awesome!!bonus with that swab!!
@@PipeDoctorpipe Brush?to clean out the p trap..I’m a Home owner , lineman by trade.
I have done my research…Ac puts out up to 30 gallons of condensation a day!Living in a condo and watching your channel this a huge problem with either clogging or hack assembly of the drain lines. I have been flooded 2x by the unit above me from the line clogging.I will be explaining the easy trap to them and others of my complex.Thanks to you educating me about this along with the tablets I hope to resolve this huge issue within my condo building , Ty mike have a great day !!
Very nice !
We love our Bosch 2.0 heat pump. It's the 3 ton model. Whisper quiet.
@@PipeDoctor continue to stay healthy. I wish you and your family the very best of the holiday season.
Beautiful craftsmanship #LoveBosch 👍👍👍🎅🤶🎄🕎 ...Thx for sharing ...#LGB !!!
At 15:03, I think you forgot to re-install the wiring cover inside the disconnect box. Loved your install of the Bosch!
Get a hole cutter! Just kidding, i'm still fond of cutting metal by hand even after all these years. That Bosch system looks awesome, wish i would have installed one back when I bought my house. Keep up the good work sir.
Hello from the great state of Michigan #letsgobosch Saint Mike you’ve done it again great job
With all that added electrical components and boards on these newer units I’d sleep a bit easier making the installation of a surge protector a must.
That sounds like a good idea. What kind would you recommend?
I did install 2 years ago Bosch 2.0 Air-handler in my house for Steam humidifier Aprilair Model 800 system because I have hot water heating system and hopping next year before the summer will install Bosch Condenser heat pump
ok so thanks explaining the outside high foundation.
good show
You want to get a pair of offsets for that flat cutting. Doesn’t require you to peel to cut and doesn’t look like you used a can opener. 👍👍🇨🇦
#LoveBosch need more discussion of handling humidity! I've heard a lot of different stories of people in high humid south having difficulty handling humidity. Don't know personally yet just interested. 👍
It because the installers are not adjusting the Indoor txv if using bosh factory coil.
Another great video Mikey! When will the LGBosh shirts be available ?
Great job Mike. If I smell Spray 9, I am immediately feel like I am back at sea. We use a ton of Spray 9 in the Navy! Out of toothpaste...try some Spray 9....out of hot sauce, hit the american chop suey with some Spray 9.
Does the Bosch need that platform if you have a concrete slab on grade for the condenser? Does it need air below?
Another good informative video Mike. Mat I ask what if the 2.0 ids can typically use less than the 19 amps than the one in this video?
Mike, have you installed any package units yet?
Do you know how low of outdoor temperatures Bosch HP will heat ?
Hello there, I saw the unit running a 19 amps that is a lot of electricity. I was thinking the unit was running at 9 to 12 amps. Conventional 4 tons.. heat pumps I think run at 20 or more depending on the brand. How is this provides electricity savings can you elaborate ? Also I saw the back on the unit, briefly. can you install a easy start to this unit to run it on Portable generator ? Specially my area the electricity goes out frequently. Thank you.
LGB
#Love Bosh
Is the silver solder approved for installation on Bosch?
Do you have any problems installing the 3 ton on 7/8 suction line?
Hey Mike, Any problems with the nest thermostat on any bosch heat pumps you installed?
Bosch #1 choice it's safe needs to be in every home 🏡
I love Bosch By far my favorite Hvac system! I always try to nudge my clients over to the bosch if the finances are there for them! Out here in Arizona its hard to compare other units with bosches power savings and whisper quiet functionality.
have the hybrid . maybe you can tell me why it screams like a banshee in heat pump mode and it isn't even that cold out! and for being modulating it only seems to go one speed, high.
Hi- thanks for posting these videos. I have a Bosch and love it. Do you have a preferred thermostat that you pair with these systems? I have an ecobee connected with the Bosch system. Not sure if I’m getting the full benefits out my system with this thermostat.
Would love to switch over to a Bosch IDP or IDS 2.0 and remove my dual fuel package unit
I just started looking into it. 60 amp breaker. Don’t you need a 6 gauge or 4 gauge wire.
What was the sq ft on the house for a 5 ton?
Thanks -- I'm curious about the Bosch IDS 2 but have a question about sizing: Currently, I have two single stage AC very old systems, both 2 tons, with one being a furnace and the other a heat strip for heat, . I want to replace both with a Bosch IDS 2 3 ton but baffled on what size the air handler should be? Should I match the air handler to the heat pump which would make them 3 tons even though what I currently have is a 2 ton, each zone cooling and heating 900 sq? I can see being oversized helping with heat but what about being oversized for cooling and that resulting in humidity?
Hey Mikey what was that stuff you were using to clean those scuff marks off the wall?
#LOVE BOSCH
We love Bryant Extreme!! Lol
Hey Mikey, loved your video. I am in the market to buy a new heat pump system which will replace my 30 year old hvac that came with the house. I am now leaning towards Bosch 2.0 after seeing this video.
How large was the home where you installed this 4-ton system ?
My home is 3375 sq ft two story home in bay area , ca built in 1994 and I am considering two 4-ton Bosch system , one for each zone. My old system was 5-ton each and the installer is recommending to stick to same capacity or go no lower than 4-ton. But based on some help from an online site who do Manual-J, it seems that even 4-ton will be more than what I need. Problem is that no contractor here offers to do Manual-J.
any guidance from you will be appreciated.
I just got one, not whisper quiet. Outdoor unit has quite a humm. I can hear it through the whole house
My next system will be a Bosch IDS 2.0
I like them pads. They cut too very Sharp
How expensive are these bosh systems
Mikey
Liked the Bosch installation really nice.
I have a question was that 16 in round return the only one that needed for the job??
4 ton, 16" flex. No comment since I am only a keyboard warrior.
Does the 18 seer unit feature the same 10 speed ecm blower motor on the outdoor unit as this 20 seer? Or is just single speed? I'm curious which outdoor unit would be quieter since Bosch lists both 18 and 20 seer at the same db rating.
I am only familiar the the IDS 2.0 and 2.1 series. Sorry. You’d have to check the Bosch Home Solutions website.
Not in winter. fan speed is same throughout the cycle. somehow.
Okay 👌
What made you stop selling carrier 18/19 or the greenspeed 25/26 for the Bosch
@@PipeDoctor Honest answer, Keep up the good work
Let's go bosch
Engineer’s are only book smart .. They have no clue about attics , confined spaces etc….Why they don’t ever get input from techs in all trades about designs , configurations ,applications etc..Is mind blowing.They have obviously have never worked in the “ Real World” have a great night mike !
Im looking at installing these, what’s required to become a dealer? Is any hvac contractor able to purchase these pieces of equipment?
How many square feet was that house?
Mikey I want to put your sticker on my dad‘s air-conditioning are in Florida. I just wish it was Bosch
What temp can the heat pump heat to if you add a 10Kw heat strip to it? Standalone I think the 2.0 can heat down to -4F ?
@@PipeDoctor Could the strips get the unit down to -20?
What was the name of the cleaner? Couldn’t hear him
#lovebosch #loveids
Thanks for the video, Mikey.
-Couple of questions for you.
1) With Bosch being made in China, how hard is it to get parts (what does their distribution network look like in the US)?
2) I've heard Bosch has issues, in high humidity areas, with removing humidity from a house. Would you recommend Bosch for areas like DC, Houston, Miami, etc.?
Thanks for the time and effort you put into this!
@@PipeDoctor Thanks for the quick response! BTW, I would have loved to seen the video of you guys getting the air handler into the attic. :)
Nonsense- can’t extrapolate to to places like dc and Atlanta with even Long Island. And NB Bosch gets that hi seer rating by pushing the sensible load emphasis. Don’t get me wrong - thsi is a great unit in some respects- price, quiet, flexible t stat choice etc . Bosch is arguably the best choice in places like phoenix, but also arguably eclipsed by any decent fully communicating system in places like DC Atlanta, let alone Miami and New Orleans Houston. And let’s be honest, Bosch will sell to anyone, anyone, so chose your dealer carefully. E.g. Lennox really restricts who can sell their unit, carrier and daikin to some degree, but that means for consumer they are doing some screening before you get involved. And make sure your pricing is considerably less than a fully communicating unit from carrier, Lennox trane- like at least 1,000 dollars less, or what the point>summary- Bosch is ALWASY going to be an outstanding choice for climates without disproportionate latent loads, but is NEVER going to be the best choice with large latent loads, BY DESIGN !
Why no surge protector? This unit is heavily dependent on expensive electronics !
#LoveBosch
#loveBosch
10 kw of heat would be great when that unit goes into defrost, otherwise it's blowing cold air. Nice units.
The cut-off tool also makes holes.😅
Those heat-sinks tho.🤔
KISS.
Thanks again for the videos.
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Stay safe.
Retired (werk'n)keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses!
Lets go Bosch! How can I order a shirt?
I've heard of high humidity issues in the summer with Bosch. Have you experienced this?
Mikey-can you expand-isn’t the 2.0 automatically a two stage blower> ?what is the tax wire?
Does the IDS 2.0 require a filter/dryer?
Yes…..see comments below
Mike Pipes I did not see a filter dryer on this installation!!!!!
@@PipeDoctor OK I was looking at the inside line set and I didn't see it so not sure where it was at.
mike is a perfectionist.@@tuffram2165
@@brianmorris7498 I'm fully aware.
Any chance you guys want to do a field trip to Rhode island to put 2 3 ton units in my 3000 sqft 2 story house? 1 attic and 1 basement?
@@PipeDoctor out of curiosity, and I realize there are probably too many variables, but what is a decent price one should pay for a 2 zone setup like mine? Low and high quote?
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#lovebosch
I’m deciding between the trane 3ton xv18 or the Bosh ids 2.0 bovb18 or Daikin fit 3.5-ton 17 seer what you recommend I go with which one would be the quietest and have lower cost maintenance/repair long-term
Is the Bosh quiet? What did you do? I worry about vibration noise since the condensing unit is on the roof
@@hiimmidas I decided on Daiken fit whisper quit during summer but bit noisy during winter since it’s working harder to convert freon to heat I gather no matter what brand heatpump you go with it will be noisy during winter Bosh 2.0 is a great system but they were charging just a much as Daiken/train, there demand/popularity, and easy to work on by any technician made their prices go up, from the research I gather train seem to be the most problematic
You should never have to pay as much for a Bosch as you do for a fully communicating system. Bosch , a European country where humidity not an issue, til steers.their design to produce a hi seer rating to draw customers in-nothign wrong with that, just beware if you are in a climate to latent load . Daikin on the other hand, gets screwed with new seer ratings as they balance their design o ensure latent loads cna be handled well. This necessarily lowers serf rating as seer screws toward sensible loads in its rating system.
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Hey Mikey pipes if you ever need a sheet metal guy
Let me know lol
Daikin fit. 12 year warranty. If compressor or heat exchanger goes bad they replace the whole unit.
Just got one of these installed along with a new oil furnace (no gas in my area). Not sure what to think yet. It's nice to not have to use oil all the time but I cant say the house gets the nice warm feeling with the heat pump. In the 40s outside today and I tried to get the house to 72 just to see if it could do it but it took forever, never got there so I just set it to 70, and gave up.
the board tells you the amps..😂
Only units I ever seen to return noticeably lower electric bills for the customer after installation
So when you're 13 year old Bosch IDS 2.0 condensing unit circuit board fails what would that cost parts and labor to have it replaced?
@@PipeDoctor Lol,, as a homeowner I'd worry about it now..
@@PipeDoctor Understood,, I do my own HVAC too... lol
what boards? and 13 years :))
$1500 at today’s prices
Mikey, if the Bosch IDS 2.0 was a 🚗 car, what kind of car would it be?🤔
I was hoping you said Toyota
Hell, just take your grider & cut it in half... a little aluminum tape, and call it a day! ;-) Since you're so buddy-buddy with the Germans now, maybe a "Request for Enhancement"... Realistically, how many homeowners spend time admiring the finish on their furnace. Sounds like you need a block & tackle... I used one to get a water heater down into the Cellar (think steep & narrow stairs) (also had 2 helpers, but it made for
less herniation and "oh shit moments".
LMAO! Ty
Maybe dash marks like a cardboard box “cut along this line”
ECM motors are very quiet, especially when they've failed early. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've been an HVAC tech and installer for 25 years. And if there's one thing I can say with certainty it is do not buy a heat pump in the New England area.
shame on half of these salesman who do not properly inform the homeowner And also with that said to a large extent shame on the homeowner too for not doing the appropriate research.
But the salesman should make sure. The homeowner knows what they're purchasing. Its benefits and limitations.
You should atleast state what’s the problem. Sense your so against it
And why not?
I’m in West Virginia and freeze every winter with me 2 3 ton tranes . POS can’t keep up at all.
These comments not inherently contradictory. Heat pumps are Great solutions even if you hate global warming.I. Teh right climates. Climate zones are ever changing. E0 yes ago woudl not have recommended any heat pump in mid Atlantic-now with no,off and warmer climate, they are easy recommend . Clealray would not recommend in Maine, Vermont, most New Hampshire, western mass, New York much above New York City. Mikey pipes in Long Island with a more temperate climate and getting warmer every year with global warming.probably will handle most winters . Also, if you get a Mitsubishi, ye s you cna certainly expand that climate range . And of course further south, makes little sense to do anything but a heat pump.
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Let’s go Brandon!
BOSCH!
What is bosch tech support number. Im having problems with a bosch i installed. And the tech guy that i call is not much help. It seems like at night time unit does not keep up. It gets to the mid 30s were im at. So it does not have heat strips because i was told dont need them. I just need another opinion on what it can be. Refrigerant is on point, new line set static preassure is fine. Unit is 1 year old.
Needs heat strips.
lol Let's Go Bosch.
@@PipeDoctor May I ask - what the cost of one of these Bosch IDS 2.0 systems is, fully installed?
Those Bosch look like rebranded American standard
Time will tell if the Bosch units are good , and reliable.
Remember when we thought Navien was the shit.
Bosch been selling heat pumps it Europe for decade . they used Mitsubishi compressor and electronics here. If they use the same parts in US then you have you self a nice unit. Mitsubishi is the king or at least top 3 world wide.
The Fujitsu mounted right to the siding is the only thing I can look at yuck
50 percent capacity at -4, that is not a good product. you really need to oversize the equipment to get any heating performance at lower temps.
@@PipeDoctor I know they are paying you big money to be an influencer. heating tables are online. 18900 btus on a 36 outdoor at -4 at 70 degree indoor temp.
Mikey and I want to donate to the mill fun to ascend your stamps or give you a money
Please go buy offset snips they’re like knipex’s I don’t even have straights/aviation snips in my bag anymore lol
Please don't turn this channel into just another advertising channel.
No
Again, Bosch is GREAT if you don’t have latent laid challenges, AWFUL if you do.
Navian last year, Bosch this year....what's it gonna be next year? How can anyone take this guy seriously?
Watch, learn and listen. Get educated! it’s what this channel is all about in my opinion
Hard to watch with the oversized ego
@@truthbetold2914 perhaps but he does solid work, you can't deny that. I'd hire him. I know he's sucking off bosch right now. But you also need to know that opinions on brands can change over time. In my line of work I've advocated for brands then ended up being shit. It happens.