for anyone wondering, the supply was probably really really really really bad because 200 divisions on a single tile destroys your supply which means the germans could push the russians very easily
And not to mention combat width existing. The vast majority og divisions would just be in reserves during combat, leaving only a few starved and unequipped ones to actually fight.
In retrospect, the fact most of those 25000+ divisons would be fighting with their bare hand, makes sense they lost edit: im not referring to the actual war you clowns, im referring to the simulation where the AI has like 25000 18 width divisions that would take up like 23,000,000 rifles.
I can´t imagine how big the debuffs must have been for low supply and stacking too many divisions on top of another, and there is no way the economy could ever replace the lost guns, and they must run out of manpower so quickly LUL
@kostrol in the beginning Russians lost due to logistics yes. But the extra divisions were so they can slow advancing Germans until supplies catch up. They built more than adequate supply after 6 months as Germans face harsh winter and being under equipped for winter war. Eventually Russians not only match but exceed Germany mechanized brigades and went on offensive.
Having more division leads to German victory but in normal case Soviet pushes Germany back. Strange... Btw your PC might have turned into toaster I guess
This is why spamming wouldn't work, and stacking should only be done to a certain degree. If you really have the resources to put more into the army, you should consider improving the divisions when the size of them are already big enough. This is why I really like how supply mechanic is introduced a while back, it basically stops one to force-spam divisions.
german troops in hoi4 are just way too strong, or they add a stronger buff to the soviets or make the german buffs temporary one, that ends when barbarossa launchs, or just add the damn winter national spirit that nerfs the germans beyond belief
Zero surprise here. Attrition probably took 99% of the supply away long before Germant attacked. This isn't Victoria 2/CK3/EU4 where you can just death stack and win.
This outcome is because having this many units you are not able to equip all of them only like 1 state full of troops, also the soviets wouldnt have enough anything to supply them so basically all these troops are fighting with there bare hands no guns.
If they were given the guns and it was a player, I think they could manage it easy. They would just need to bring away divisions so no stacking penalty
Estou jogando com a URSS e já tenho 500 divisões, um exército de 10 milhões de soldados, sem contar 4 milhões de reservistas, 200 mil na força aérea e 30 mil na marinha, é possível, mas demorei bastante para recruta-los pela falta de recursos, alistar 200 divisisões no começo do jogo é aceitar que você terá 10 milhões de soldados e apenas uns 500 mil vão ter armas.
It isn't wonder, that USSR has lost: the divisions are not useful, if there isn't equipment. The USSR has many people, but usually there are maximum 400-600 divisions. And you try with the industry make equipment for 25000 divisions. But what if you give the divisions and excelente industry? It is other situation
"Hoi4 but the soviet union has a completely unmanageable supply crisis that, because its an AI, it cant fix." Yeah dog, who couldve seen that easy germany win coming?
No xD L2P the AI is weak in hoi4 ez to world conquest with every country. ussr have lost bcs 200 div by states is just impossible to manage. imagine have 3000 div but 30 military factory xd you have 0 stuff for them
Soviet union: *Breaks laws of physics and packs thousands of divisions*
Germany: *Breaks laws of history and attacks in winter*
And wins…
i blame the supplies
Hiii
Gg
@@comradedmitrievich53 And conquer a big chunk of Eurasia
"- We don't have guns comrade Stalin!"
"- My son, you are the gun."
Pure gold
@Jön Türk "Eat your comrades, comrade."
69 likes and 3 comments lemme fix that
@@RickettsJr but comrade Stalin, we have not more comrades
-Hirohito
The only Problem is that lots of divisions cause supply problems and stacking penalty
Shut cringe dio pfp
Yeah, he should remake it with 5 lvl rail roads, because AI itself is too dumb to build them
@@unv3906 l bozo skill issue
@@mariosantoniadis4496 npc
Yep i didnt notice a 300 day battle with my 24 divisions against 1
-50% from supply "bonuses"
"Comrade, we have thousands of divisions!"
"Then why are we losing the war?"
"I never said they were *good* divisions"
XD
2 width division lol
@@catfacecat. artillery only divisions💀
@@user-qs2hd3jv4danti air only Divisions🪦
"Fighting with bare hands is not a good idea."
for anyone wondering, the supply was probably really really really really bad because 200 divisions on a single tile destroys your supply which means the germans could push the russians very easily
Also the amount of manpower and equipment required to reinforce that many divisions…
And not to mention combat width existing. The vast majority og divisions would just be in reserves during combat, leaving only a few starved and unequipped ones to actually fight.
and in principle, the incompetent AI of the USSR
Supply system seeing 200 divisions in Chukotka: 💀
big oof
Probs the amount of divisions that the USSR made it too overcrowded but I know that’s not how HOI4 works
ATTRITION!
Probably, the divisions were made from one soldier or something like that
attrition, lack of supply, lack of supply hubs, lack of manpower, lack of everything really.
i thought USSR was going to win but Nazi germany won
Maybe Urss lose because the Nation couldnt provide with its factory the amount of troops
Imagine stalin and his generals talking about how many division are required for protecting a fricking forest
Broo...
@@MrPeedOFile ?
Broo...
Можно на русском?
@@nikartan8695 заткнулся
Attrition probably took all the Soviet guns way before Barbarossa
"Every 50,000 men must share one gun!"
-Stalin in this timeline
@@gengarzilla1685with a bullet and a half"
In retrospect, the fact most of those 25000+ divisons would be fighting with their bare hand, makes sense they lost
edit: im not referring to the actual war you clowns, im referring to the simulation where the AI has like 25000 18 width divisions that would take up like 23,000,000 rifles.
Ye
Does it matter when you have literally more men than the enemy has bullets?
@@obiwankenobi4252 it does if a tiger tank is coming full speed and running y over
@@CertifiedBlackHoleoh, you mean "Gotterdam Hanz, ze Transmission ist broken!"
@@The_UPD. No I don't
I’m surprised that the AI didn’t delete any divisions
hoi4 ai never deletes their divisions (unless a mod u have downloaded forces them to delete them in whatever circumstances)
Es la ia del hoi4 ¿que esperabas?
This could be a brutal Soviet win if they had unlimited supply
I can´t imagine how big the debuffs must have been for low supply and stacking too many divisions on top of another, and there is no way the economy could ever replace the lost guns, and they must run out of manpower so quickly LUL
I have 5000 division! But I can only make 200 rifles a day.
1 rifle per 10000 people, probably that's why they lost there.
@@kotrolss2_0 and no manpower like one division had at the best 10 people
@kostrol in the beginning Russians lost due to logistics yes. But the extra divisions were so they can slow advancing Germans until supplies catch up.
They built more than adequate supply after 6 months as Germans face harsh winter and being under equipped for winter war.
Eventually Russians not only match but exceed Germany mechanized brigades and went on offensive.
@@zlonewolf Are you talking about real invision?
@@kotrolss2_0 it was a game dunno why he said that
That Chinese civil war was more interesting than the rest of WW2
Having more division leads to German victory but in normal case Soviet pushes Germany back. Strange...
Btw your PC might have turned into toaster I guess
Nah not for me germany always wins
@@lemonke4209 bro when Allies intervene then chances are bit poor for Germany
its because they would have no supply for most of thoes divisions
@@sibasishnayak6283 mostly because Italy AI fucks up so terribly.
These soviets would be fighting with bare hands without uniform and food
Plot twist, each division has a single infantry batallion in it.
Plot twist i mean not really
supply was so damned dead its a fist fight between armed police and fist only gangster
8:02 As a brazilian this really hurts
Solano lopez curtiu
As an paraguayan it doesnt.
@@realdragao6367lmao. As an american how about we liberate both of you?
This is why spamming wouldn't work, and stacking should only be done to a certain degree.
If you really have the resources to put more into the army, you should consider improving the divisions when the size of them are already big enough.
This is why I really like how supply mechanic is introduced a while back, it basically stops one to force-spam divisions.
i think the fact, the soviets had a 23 million gun shortage affected them more than the supply issue
@@Windynb we throw men like shells and bullets!
@@Sheepo_Coffee fr theyd be better off putting people in their artillery at that point
I was searching for clips of the Rumbling and this was one the of the top searches. Very appropriate.
Defend the motherland? Nah
Defend Vladivostok? Hell yeah!
Do one of these with the Soviets starting off with 1000000 max level guns
(Supply hubs on each border tile maybe a good idea)
yeah like what was that 200 in a state like thats 40 divsions a state or smth stacking penalty and supply penalty with attrition
bruh russia would reach warsaw fastrr than germany even if they were added later
@@oicmapper This is HOI4 Germany got blitzkrieg on
german troops in hoi4 are just way too strong, or they add a stronger buff to the soviets or make the german buffs temporary one, that ends when barbarossa launchs, or just add the damn winter national spirit that nerfs the germans beyond belief
fr bro
Fact
-50% debuff to German logistics
Good luck feeding your soldiers when the horses pulling your carts are dead, Hitler.
@@unofficial_computer lmao
they only play bad when I control duce the bald
All the units having 100% attrition:
I don't want to imagine how much casualties would come from this Barbarossa.
If I had all those divisions I'd just disband them all. Imagine all the manpower and equipment you'd get.
Makes sense, there's no way in hell you could give or let alone sustain equipment and supply for that many divisions.
Zero surprise here. Attrition probably took 99% of the supply away long before Germant attacked. This isn't Victoria 2/CK3/EU4 where you can just death stack and win.
Imagine your a German soldier charging in and you see this like it’s the red flood
If you are wondering why the Soviets lost, it was due to supply issues. Having 200 divisions in one tile is not sufficient for a few supply hubs.
and they won't have any guns or clothes to give to all of them
so it's just a bunch of naked guys running around in the field
Imagine playing this and having low supply EVERYWHERE.
Man, those supply penalties are a killer.
That superior German engineering be hitting different lol
and Inferior soviet supply
Soviets didn’t have any supply early war irl makes sense they would do even worse now
@@itsalmostfun8567 -999999 soviet points
TO GULAG! NOW!
@@karantikoo9302
Well, gotta wait for Khrushchev to come into power
"They have less bullets than we have men" © Joseph Stalin
This outcome is because having this many units you are not able to equip all of them only like 1 state full of troops, also the soviets wouldnt have enough anything to supply them so basically all these troops are fighting with there bare hands no guns.
Another reason why paradoxes shall fix Soviet Ai
I can see some manpower issues mobilizing more than a whole country
Due to attrition those troops probably had zero guns by Barbarossa 😂😂
If they were given the guns and it was a player, I think they could manage it easy. They would just need to bring away divisions so no stacking penalty
“Who cares about guns? You have two on your hands!
-Soviet Union player after checking logistics tab
-100000 Rifle Equipment I
I love how ethiopia does a glowing come back
M E A T W A L L
Surprised Germans didn’t run out of bullets to fire
now try to run the same scenario, but so that each division has enough equipment
With poor logistics and high attrition this is clearly inferior to just the AI playing as normal
Germany conquering the USSR: Your computer is now *Liberated*
Liberated?
I can only IMAGINE the casualties caused by the infinite lack of supply
German soldiers feel like doomguy now.
Estou jogando com a URSS e já tenho 500 divisões, um exército de 10 milhões de soldados, sem contar 4 milhões de reservistas, 200 mil na força aérea e 30 mil na marinha, é possível, mas demorei bastante para recruta-los pela falta de recursos, alistar 200 divisisões no começo do jogo é aceitar que você terá 10 milhões de soldados e apenas uns 500 mil vão ter armas.
It isn't wonder, that USSR has lost: the divisions are not useful, if there isn't equipment. The USSR has many people, but usually there are maximum 400-600 divisions. And you try with the industry make equipment for 25000 divisions. But what if you give the divisions and excelente industry? It is other situation
"Hoi4 but the soviet union has a completely unmanageable supply crisis that, because its an AI, it cant fix."
Yeah dog, who couldve seen that easy germany win coming?
All of those soviet troops would be fighting naked
R.I.P Some random Intel Quad core.
Alternate title: WW2 but everyone wanted to serve Russia
I felt your CPU crying
What a wonderful music !
Well done to this guys PC for handling this so well
Must have spent Germanies GDP on a supercomputer
Bro has a Quantum computer to run this
fr my hoi4 wouldn't even start with that soviet union
Bro asked NASA to borrow one of their Supercomputers
That's got to be NASA computer running the game with so many divisions.
When every soldier has half a bullet.
Dawg what the hell goin down in South America though 💀💀
The fact that the USSR still got pushed back so much initially even with 10000+ divsions
That much division would do more harm than good
Hoi4 game: *USSR has 200 or more divisions*
PC: You may fire when ready
I think the amount of devisions actually hurt them due to out of supply problems and overstaking penalties
Now that’s what you call a RED ARMY
Paraguayan Brazil 🤯
i like how crimea lasted longer than all of soviet europe while being very close
"Size doesn't matter, it's about can it shoot"
Supply Status: -♾️
this music at 2:39 is fire whats it called?
Катюша
@@alexei9000 thanks bro
@@alexei9000what happend to it
Imagine the nonexistent supply and attrition for those units
finally a historical version of ww2
100% HISTORICALLY ACCURATE!
Germany really needs to be Nerfed, they're too OP
No xD L2P the AI is weak in hoi4 ez to world conquest with every country. ussr have lost bcs 200 div by states is just impossible to manage. imagine have 3000 div but 30 military factory xd you have 0 stuff for them
@@para563 thing is soviet AI is very very weak
Dude its not germany yea its a bit op but the soviets have like supply issue alot
@@gamesnig true but the thing is All the supply in there even the best players in hoi4
cant manage that much divisions
You'd need max rail infrastructure in every state along with a supply depot and even then you'd probably still be out if everything was motorized.
Using whole level of "Quantity over quality" Doctrine
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
-Video about OP Soviet Union
*turns into German world conquest*
Supplies disappeared instant game started
Soviet Union: Gets strong buffs
Also Soviet Union: Loses at the first millisecond of war
Stalin:oque voce fez?
Moustache man: nivelei o jogo
great song chioces, Katyusha always slaps.
That weren't a battle. That was a massacre.
A random div just spawned with no gun, support equipment, boots and zero experience "thousand yard stare"
and in all these divisions, one gun for all
The Soviet ai is truly shining in all its glory
in this universe, everyone just got up and ran at german troops
Oh dude, it is going to be a 1 sided bloodbath.
When a timetraveler accidentally sneezed at a lord:
NASA called, they want their computer back.
imagine his resources for the military with more than 200 units
Imagine his PC actually being able to run this
bro can select the entire country with the "defend area"
my pc : do i look like a joke to u ?
Bros computer after this turned into an airplane
Bro I LAGGED when passing this vid 💀💀💀💀
This is where the myth that soviets were put on the front line without a gun comes from
Bro, the supply lines ☠️
simplified : ' Your game has crashed , would you like to report the crash ?'
"Is this the USSR flag's red?"
"No, divisions."
Did someone forget to give the 200 Soviet divisions equipment?!?!?!?!??
you should do this again but give the soviets better supply for the divisions