We met the world’s first domesticated foxes
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2018
- We met the very cute and very bizarre result of an almost 60-year-long experiment: they’re foxes that have been specially bred for their dog-like friendliness toward people. We do a little behavior research of our own, and discover what scientists continue to learn from the world’s most famous experiment in domestication. The fox experiment continues under the supervision of Lyudmila Trut at the Institute of Cytology and Genetics. Her book “How to Tame a Fox (and Build a Dog)”, co-authored by Lee Alan Dugatkin, details the history and science behind the experiment.
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Should we be domesticating wild animals?
they shouldn't be cause they are called wild for a reason...and moreover they seem to be very unnatural domesticated.just don't like that body language on a wild animal.
If they have the “friendly genes” which dogs had and apparently foxes why not? Its gonna take time but it surely will lead to great new discoveries, but i dont think that lions or even greater hunters should ever tried to be tamed. Let them be wild, thats what makes them so special and amazing
We did that with dogs already so why not
yeah but still feels uncomfortable to see a wild animal being curbed
Personally I don't think its a good idea due to them "forgetting" how to survive on their own. But who am I to judge people's interests, plus foxes may be a VERY good idea to test how different wild animals understand us and react to our presence.
EDIT: I'd like to thank you all for tagging me in your comments and put some effort to complete/correct my reply with your knowledge, but unfortunately I can't reply to those of you who tagged me from 09/15 because I have already replied to someone and if I could I would already have. (I ain't making this on purpose I don't have the option if there is a way please let me know)
"They greet, they interact, and then they move on." --Me at parties
XD
@trandmain this is life in general
Me too. Oh the joys of Asperger's.
those hoes and players with relationships be like.
You guys are getting interactions?
You want a dog? You want a cat? Boom you got a fox
Amazing.
Just get a ferret they are cheaper
I love foxes lol
I'm a cat person but my favorite animals are foxes. Perfect.
Actually the ferret is more fitting
Turns out, friendliness is only one measure of if an animal is a good pet. It's the most critical one, but it's not everything. They also need to be easily trained, or at the very least, have non-destructive behaviors. These things have not been bred into these foxes yet.
One note: destructiveness level has been slowly moved out of the main criteria for "tameability" or "petabilility". Ex: Cats, Birds, Dogs
@@JaredJanhsen It is really difficult to get people to understand the level of destructive a fox is. Dogs aren't remotely close, neither are cats.
Fox urine is also so difficult to remove that it is often sprayed on trees to punish people for stealing trees for christmas.
So these foxes may be friendly, but they aren't good pets. Maybe one day.
i think your confusing pet with animal we can dominate, they really are not same thing
@@lavans5721the difference is all those examples you put can be trained to abandon destructive behavior. hell, even birds can be potty trained.
@@comfortme I would know, I own birds and have potty trained them. Regardless, i dont think it's possible/kind to have certain destructive impulses trained out of them. Birds for example, forage for fun and for intellectual stimulation. They like destroying tough objects to get inside, and they like destroying stuff to dismantle it and make something new out of it. It would be unnecessary and unkind to train my birds to avoid foraging, because they enjoy having that little moment of destructive capability.
I've started domesticating crocodiles, the results so far are promising, but It's hard to write it all down with one arm
A fox is an animal running cat software on dog hardware..
So are shibas.
Wait so that probably could be why they lost interest so quickly and came up at first.
And Cheetahs are dog software on cat hardware
@Ibrahim Abid That's not really true. Cheetahs are fairly affectionate and social. Whilst they are territorial, they will work together in groups. They show almost no aggression towards humans and are also one of the only big cats that can be easily tamed and socialise with humans, and there's a long history of cheetahs being kept as pets and being used for hunting, dating back to at least 1500BC. Also Cheetahs can often struggle with anxiety and stress in captivity and can be given emotional support dogs to help with this.
+++ Cats don't normally jump on your kitchen counters to do a poop . They instinctively use the litter box that mommy taught them about.
Short bursts of affection and then they go do their own thing?
Sounds like a cat.
Your cat actually fends for your life more than a dogs ability to be loyal
Introbulus foxes are cat dogs!! :3
Sounds like me
If you raise cats right they should care about you
I treat my cats like family and have training seasons with them, and they always want to cuddle
ive known many cats who literally wouldnt leave you alone till you cuddled them. mine slept on my back every night too
The fact that we humans who love petting animals, live in a world full of animals who love getting pet is amazing and tells something about the laws of nature.
but still we kill and slaughter so many others just for clothes?
It says that most intelligent and social animals seek comfort and safety and we, the human animal, are just another one of those species.. luckily this instinct is such a basic need that we can share it with other animals cross species which is certainly a beautiful thing.
I'm sorry for this but- RULES OF NATURE!
@@viniciusdeoliveiraduarte9133AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
There's an imbedded empathy it seems in humanity in which we feel a need to bond with other living things even those that aren't human. I think that it's super interesting that we're fundamentally obsessed with forming connections with others, not even of the same species sometimes.
Old comment, old video, I know. But I would like to ask if you still see it as "imbedded in humanity", because I have a hard time believing that humanity in general is very empathetic
@@azazel8700 It's definitely a part of the human psyche, now granted not everyone is the same, some will have higher levels of empathy than others and obviously, psychopaths and sociopaths exist. As humans though we're social creatures that rely on others to get by that's just how we evolved. So empathy is indeed programmed into our brains as it's helped us survive, though there will always be anomalies and verying degrees. One's empathy can also be easily effected by outside variables, growing up is different for everyone of course.
@@EvilSanity We are social creatures, sure, but does it really mean that the normal, almost all of them, human beings really do care and value the life of the other humans? Because when I look to society I see a logical construct of survival, but a soulless grinder as well, everyday all around there's always signs of human brutality and apathy. It all reminds me of dolphins or chimpanzees, that live in groups but will purposefully brutalize each other for fun or food, living together for convenience and survival, not for love or care
@Azazel There are a few factors and reasons for this. Civilization is complicated, and culture and tradition can have huge influences on one's ability to empathise with others. Connections between others also usually need to be formed in order for empathy to really kick in. For instance, most don't care about issues that don't directly impact them. One's ability to empathise varies due to many factors. You could also be suffering from information overload, in this digital age you have an endless stream of information. Unfortunately, the majority of the information you will retain will be negative leading to a very pessimistic view of the world. There is good and bad but good stories don't get as many clicks. Social structures in many civilizations can and have been exploited by bad people but there are always those resisting injustice because empathy persists. It's very difficult to show compassion when you see others be so cruel, but no one is born to be cruel. it's a learnt behaviour to be cruel because of human constructs that allow being cruel to move up in society. As for other animals it's similar, fear is an easy form of control but not a reliable one, said animals will usually end in territorial battles. A lack of empathy you could argue shows a lack on intelligence as it can only get you so far.
@@EvilSanity I find my own empathy towards other withering as time goes on, because I see all of this and wonder what's so special about us when we so promptly act like animals, in the end we are animals, the belief that "humanity" has a meaning seems hollow. I've been thinking about those things for a time now, how it all feels, if it is really worth it, sorry for taking your time
2100: *"How We domesticated a Blue Whale"*
Bold of you to think we're gonna live till 2100.
@Un Zorro Shota CHANGE YOUR NAME. NO MORE UW- IM NOT EVEN SAYING IT JUST CHANGE YOUR DAMN NAME
@Music Is Love Music Is Life how about you change your name lmao
@@ashleys6148 how about you change your name? LMAO
@@jamesplaysgames2017 uwu
We should domesticate bears for the ultimate good boy
Rafael Tirelli imagine getting a home after a long day and your pet bear gives you a hug.❤️
Rafael Tirelli If he gets diabetes call him cheeseburger and use him to topple an extremistic cult in the US!
im afraid russia beat you to it
@@MisterK9739 FarCry 5 reference
Russians be like.
Be mindful if picking one up for yourself. The older ones tend to come pre-assembled, but the newer models are in kit form.
🤣
That's the best pun I've heard today, well done
Superior
Several decades ago I bought a wolf pup from a breeder. I naively expected it to become as domestic as any dog. Well, yes and no, just as this couple with the foxes explained. My wolf bonded with me as her mother. She was loving and very affectionate to my family. She was very playful with a silly doggie-like sense of humor. But she was skittish and frightened of any loud noises. She was destructive, chewing things up, digging hole and even - yes, a cave! - and rearranging the backyard to her liking.
She liked other dogs if they were more less her size. But she feared larger dogs, but literally wanted to eat toy breeds (had to be careful when out on the leash) and she killed my beloved cat.
It was simply no life for her in suburban backyard. I finally had to make the extremely painful decision to part with my beloved wolf and find her a more appropriate home with a couple who lived in the woods. This was devastating for both me and my wolf, who viewed me as her momma.
I am now very critical about people seeking out wild animals as pets. It's not a fair life for them to have to conform to a human world and comes with situations that you're often not prepared to deal with.
A wolf is an apex predator and a poor choice, on your part. No disrespect meant. Just facts.
Many people have made (and continue to make) the same mistake. Many have paid with their lives.
it is amazing than in your country allow to sell a wolf pup in a shop.... use to be a protected specie
@@zapa1pntThe wolf wouldn’t attack you though. It will attack other animals though because it sees them as prey.
Thanks for telling this story and I'm so sorry about your cat. For those commenting as though it was all so predictable, there are also breeds of dog that are more likely to hunt and kill smaller animals and they aren't any particular size or necessarily look like wolves. Nor do they always behave that way.
I was really enjoying this wholesome story until the cat part
Wild fox: "no."
Domesticated fox: "oh, hello there. Want to play? No? Okay then, I'll give you your space."
Dog: *"FRIEND"*
Lol I love this
Notice how the wild fox said no before the domesticated fox said anything.
Your wild, typical fox: flees at the sight of any humans.
Domesticated-Fox: hm, an adult human. I shall investigate this specimen. It seems friendly.
Dog: *I LOVE YOU WITH ALL MY HEART*
What does the fox say ig
666 likes, I'm not changing that lmao
Foxes are not pack animals. They will never be like dogs who descended from wolves which are pack animals. If anything I’d say foxes will become more like cats than dogs in the way they communicate as pets.
Now if we could just train them to use a litter box.
@@amysofia5783 honestly thats the best i dont like dogs too much cause they way to attached
Cleveland Olivia they’re literally like a mix between a cat and a dog lol
Not entirely true. Cats are literally solitary, they only meet during mating season. Foxes, although they mostly hunt alone, most often form a mating pair which is monogamous and frequently life long- and this pair
will meet up for lengthy periods of time to groom and play together. Also, sometimes other adult foxes referred to as ‘helpers’ will stay with the breeding pair and be subordinate to them-mostly because one or more of their children decided to stay on in the family unit rather than leaving when they became able to hunt for themselves. Just because foxes hunt and eat independently doesn’t mean they don’t have the capacity to form social groups.
Dogs consider themselves part of your pack.
I love the term "elite level of friendliness" also I know I'm not the only one who went and called their doggo whenever the part about doggos having an unusual willingness to bond with humans came on.
I wish some human beings could reach a elite level of friendliness today.
Humans like those do exist. lol It's a rarity but they exist.
Sounds like eugenics but ok
I love how we humans are so fixated on bonding with anything that's cute and fluffy that we obsess over it, collectively, for generations.
True,but cone onnn
Don't underestimate the mofu mofu ~
In truth, we have been domesticated long ago and are now hyperfriendly to fluff stimuli
@Daniel Oh God my eyes are burned. Also, are you pointing at a chair? Am I a chair, or did the chair do something to the fluffies?
Neoteny is a feature only in humans
"Elite friendliness levels"
Fox:"I'm about to do what's called a pro friend move."
If you read about the study, the foxes domesticated beyond the original classifications the initial experiment came up with for them, and they had to add more categories. Elite, in this case, probably means something specific wrt the study.
Dog : am I a joke to you ?
Cat: *I AM THE CUTEST*
Fox: *ima bout end this whole mans career*
Don't worry they'll farm xp every generations
Ha lol
What was learned from the original experiment was fascinating. The conditions in which they kept these animals to preform their experiment was nothing short of cruel.
My thoughts exactly. Foxes belong in the woods
@@marciacook9336 Sadly, the conditions they CAME from-prior to the experiment-were worse. The scientists didn’t pull them out of the woods… they acquired them from a nearby fur farm. I strongly oppose keeping animals in “mill” conditions, but I do think the information gained from this experiment made much better use of those already-captive “farm foxes” than what they were originally going to be used for…
That said, I do not believe it is inherently unethical to domesticate new species. This experiment further proved that dogs are nothing more than wolves bred selectively for “pet” qualities. I’d just like to see it done in spacious, comfortable surroundings-not cramped cages.
Behaviorally, domesticated foxes seem to be more like domesticated cats than domesticated dogs. It would be cool to see a video that looks at the differences in behaviour among other domesticated animals :D
The difference is that foxes are relatively solitary animals. Wolves are pack animals. So dogs have that pack mentality and want those relationships.
Could probably be changed through trying to domesticate and tame them as much as possible.
There are a lot more differences than that.
So wolves equal your dog despite being related to the canine and not canids? Also not in packs. Wrong.
Dude I'm sure wolves are closer compared to coyote than fox and dog.
Or aliens...
Wolfs are also different to wolves. I played attention
This just proves that minecraft foxes should be tameable.
Edit:The foxes are not truly tameable,they just won't run away,I mean tameable somewhat like dogs or cats.
No it proves they shouldn't
they are tameable.
Yep
Sorry for grammar
He was like a father to me
The JABCECC currently has 14 of the Russian domesticated foxes that people can come and interact with..... We have some that are 11 years old (with no socialization), some 8 years old (with a little bit) and some 3 years old (with a slight amount more) - all behave very differently than our wild or captive bred foxes. The Belyaev foxes seek out human attention (from those they know and those they have never met). They haven't met a person they didn't like and are willing to get scratches and pets from anyone. While they each have different personalities, they all are less afraid of novel environments than their counterparts. They truly are fascinating..... if you are ever in San Diego, look us up and schedule an encounter.
It's so nice to know that dogs are literally made of friendship ♥️
Amazing what food will do.
Getting a fox is three in one. You get a dog, a cat and a dolphin all in one.
A... dolphin?
@@Mezgrman They make dolphin sounds lol
I saw this same comment in the saveafox channel
Do you mean actual dolphin noises or do you mean tv dolphin noises
?
Animals: *Exist*
Humans: *_It's free real estate._*
*Nah its Free real Friendship*
@@nyooom7467
If this manipulation is friendship then i gotta hard pass bro.
@@AntiCuteness It could be worse.
@@AntiCuteness but this does hv some good uses to it... like removing irrational fear from people bout wild animals...
Naveen Arora
This won't fix anything to do with irrational fears because they aren't wild animals anymore.
Its like saying dogs can remove fears of wolves.
I had a pet fox back in the 80's. It's Mom wouldn't feed it so I raised on a bottle. His name was Sampson. He was house trained & everything. I loved him 🥺
I may be 4 years late, But you(Or a team) make absolutely astonishing content!
Me: *I want a fox*
Fox: *I will poop and pee on your counter*
Me: *I Do not want a fox*
66 likes here to inform you
Me: *I want a fox anyways*
I still want a fox
House train them
I still want a fox
Normal foxes: "Whine"
Russian foxes: "Cyka blyat"
A Russian fox will stand for the Soviet anthem
@@dezmobluefire8217 That too on *Two* *legs.*
American dog brings you flip flops
Russian fox brings you vodka
Suka blyat means f*cking b*tch
they wouldn't say that, they were bread to be friendly and nice. they'd actually say привет друг, приятно познакомиться.
I pride being from Novosibirsk, where these cuties was bred
That’s a statement never before made.
There are other videos posted on this site where an older man has one or more foxes as domesticated pets, much more sociable and affectionate than the ones in this video. In fact, unlike the experience of the couple who have foxes that still relieve themselves in the house, this man has found his favorite fox has learned to be "considerate" and never pee or defecate in the house despite being in the house for long periods of time. It would be valuable for the researchers to visit him and explore more of what he's learned living with foxes.
Imagine achieving "Elite" level in your friendliness stat
Uhleet status
Sounds like a Persona game.
but its in your genes ...you were bred like that LUL
XBOX achievement! Elite Friendship
10 Charisma in Fallout
You're calling cats domesticated? They've trained you well.
lol
I read somewhere that foxes are just cat software running on dog hardware and this video confirmed it for me
@@heshiram1188 Double lol 😄
cats domesticated humans: a cat simply meows and a human starts a whole charade to find out what she wants :)
well, cats domesticated themselves to have just the right amount to be able to survive in the wild, but still get affection, and food from humans.
The person who made the closed captions completely gave up when they were supposed to put in a russian name and just typed *[speaks foreign language]* instead🤣🤣🤣
Great video! I always wondered about the domestication of foxes! I had heard years ago they tried it in Russia! Happy to have learned a lot more!
Finnegan the fox would kindly like to know this location.
Lukas Gardeikis ahah you very big cocky yes
Jorge Gasviani tf
FINNEGAN AND DIXIE❤️
*eHehHeHeeeHhee*
@@icomplainalot533 Finnigan didn't need selective breeding he was born domestic
"Wolves were domesticated to dogs so long ago, and we don't know why"
Wolves: "Guys, get this! The humans have warm fire, sturdy houses, great meat, and they're willing to give it away for free!"
Other wolves: WOOOOO PAAAARTYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
*Many..... MANY years later....*
years later...
negative IQ pugs and long bois
Nah, that's actually the housecat, the only known animal to self-domesticate.
For a second I thought the title said "intoxicated foxes" 😂😂
Yep, now some of their descendants are little Chihuahuas lol
Domesticated foxes before GTA6
It was during my own lifetime they were saying foxes could never be domesticated yet here we are.
My neighbor is from Germany and she feeds the bears to keep them from going through the neighborhood trashcans. It's been going on so long that the bears brought their mates and cubs and after a couple years those grown-cubs brought their own cubs. She's got grand-cubs. They all are well behaved and pretty well known in the area.
@@scanida5070 no no. SHE is from Germany. She and her bears live in New Jersey and bears aren't really weird over here.
Germany has bears,
Most of them are within the Alps.
Hell even the Russian Eurasian Brown Bear are found in Germany.
@@lettuceman9439 Russians in Germany?! Oh no.
@@scanida5070 of i get it Bär
@@lettuceman9439 SHE MEANS HER NIEGHBORS IS GERMAN AND SHE LIVES IN NEW JERSEY.
Domesticated fox: exists
Dogs: Finally, a worthy opponent
@@kelvs45 It's a battle of cuteness, and pet loyalty; not combat strength.
@Caleb Kovach the dragon... fox warrior
@Masticatious dogs are superior since they are pack animals by nature and therefore fit into human social hierarchy with more ease. Domesticated lions tho :)
@@kelvs45 A chihuahua would probably attack a fox if it wanted to
Unless if its marbles, he wouldnt know where he is
Eternally Buffering,
1. Marbles is dead.
2. Marbles appeared to be dead when he was alive.
It’s either Peach or Kermit that’s scared of everything.
me: just let the fox stay wild
also me: shut up and give me that domesticated fluffy fox loaf!
They are gorgeous. Foxes teach me how to smile and love and cherish lives again. The smile they hang around their face is incredibly infectious, I always smile watching them. I LOVE FOXES I WON'T LET THEM GO EXTINCT!
3021: We domesticated the kraken
tiddy 4021 : We domesticated humnas
Mine is pretty friendly though
You can get a baby kraken tho.
@@aryavsaigal8898 said alien
@@aryavsaigal8898 I believe that's called slavery
Verge Science: Foxes lick wag their tails and are very friendly. There’s nothing quite like them
Dog: Am I a joke to u
Cookies n Cream foxes are nothing like dogs
A Choking Fish wooosh
A Choking Fish Yeah you know except that they’re both canines and these ones are literally almost exactly like dogs
@@ColWilBald you're very incorrect..foxes and dogs act VERY different look up some fox videos
Michael Pettit OMG...he said these ones not all foxes and it doesn’t matter they are similar.
I think those foxes are more like cats that like you enough to not bite your finger off. they look at you and inspect you to see if you're a threat, then they stay away from you because you're a new stranger
it makes me so exited and happy for the idea of domesticated foxes, foxes are legit my favorite animal so Im looking forward to this
Genetic foxes: Walked up, interacted, then moved on.
Wild foxes: Nope, not going near him.
Dog: *FRIEND!*
Ah so I see you know of changed, nice puro profile picture.
people think about domestication as an aninal turning into an dog. Domesticated foxes are realy more like cats if anything. They like to play but they want theyre personal space
my dog doesnt want anything to do with anyone, hes a shiba inu. (basically a cat) I dont want this "domestic" gene altered, if I wanted a retardedly friendly dog with 2 brain cells I'd get a yellow lab.
They should try that with a Pit bull.
This supposed to be funny?
I want a domesticated alligator. Just imagine riding that thing around town and having it eat your enemies
Already one back at Japan an old geezer grew upwith a baby croc and since then became domisticated i guess,!?
Domesticated queen ant. You now control an army of ants, but I dont like bugs
domesticated microwave
MMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
😂
@@daoistsaintmasterofthenasc6220 that's called tamed not domesticated
A fox on Kew gardens ran towards us the other day when he heard we had food. He stuck around and took some pictures with us but kept his distance. He was as relaxed as I've ever seen one in the city. A beautiful looking creature!
I love how much time were puttin in to make it possible to cuddle foxes.
Good work
Russians? Genes? Foxes?!? This is definitely some Metal Gear shit. I approve.
New Experimental russian fox anthro soldiers?
Snake?? Snaaaaaake!!!
Also Russian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee
Psycho Mantis?
@@a_fine_edition2746
You're that ninja
If wolves turned into domesticated chihuahuas, imagine what domesticated foxes can turn into over generations? Hamster size foxes?
Not all dogs came from wolves. The smarter, smaller breeds as an example primarily descend coyote and foxes.
@@notchomomma239, Chihuahuas are biologically classified with other domestic dogs, which are identified as a subspecies of the gray wolf. The fox is a member of different subspecies. Smaller dogs and foxes are not related. In fact, all small size dogs including the chihuahua can breed with a wolf but they can't breed with a fox. The size of smaller dogs occurs because of a phenomenon known as convergent evolution, in which animals develop specific traits to meet specific biological needs.
Oh god...
@@lv8945 I believe chihuahuas were bred to keep fleas away from people in Central America long ago
of course, with enough selective breeding everyone can own their own pocket fox
I have hand-tamed Western Scrub Jays for 30+ years. They remain wild birds that have learned that coming to get a peanut is not dangerous, but any small move toward them results in instant flight.
Really interesting. Thank you🦊😊.
I've had a wild fox come up to me in the woods once. It was soo curious and followed me everywhere. Definitely had some of those "nice" genes. I wish I could relive that experience.
Maybe it had associated humans with free food
I would have curb stomped that Fox
You're living my dream, gimme your skin
Oh so i had a pack of wolves just lay out side of my house
Fox always try to eat human meat
5:48 “And, for a final contrast, we tested a dog”
*gets licked straight away*
I like your comment but I don't want to ruin that number of the beast.
BLVCK omg 😂😂
@@jo__anna6252 Already ruined but somehow it's better now 😂😂
I’m pretty sure that gene also correlates with the spitz type tail in dogs as well. The foxes started to develop more curled tails the more domesticated they became. Interesting that these foxes don’t show that trait?
And still no other animal beat dog friendliness. It's incredible how friendly dogs are.
Yea, It is quite the thing, to have two animal species to hardwired to connect on a social level is honestly pretty amazing. Not a dog person myself as I find them kinda errr.. over-eager, but it is crazy how ready dogs and humans are bond with one another... But then again, humans are pretty much willing to socially bond with anything.. our brains are kinda extreme like that... People form social bonds with cars sometimes
"They greet, they interact, then they move on."
Me: maybe I'm a fox
Same
I must still be feral.
No not the furrys
Me too bruh me too
You should look into being a Therian.
2020: Domesticated fox
2035: Domesticated bears
vikings do that
but...
2 bears will fight for the territory
in the same city
you can imagen the rest
@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 They ahead of their time..
@@user-bo1ej5im9t those pagan rapists? of course and im charlesmagne!
Imagine the fbi having an army of bears
domesticated sharks lol
I desperately want this to work out, foxes are so wonderful and I would love to have one as a pet.
These things take time, probably wont be truly domesticated anyone soon.. I mean just think about how many years it took for dogs
@@MaMastoast Dogs were already domesticated years and years ago.. it's just common now to have one. But if you think about it, our ancestors have had dogs for a long time.
^w^ adorable!
0:40 small correction: We didnt domesticate cats. They are semi-wild animals that co-evolved to live with us. That's part of why cats are so..."complicated"
melissa saint ahah true ;)
There was actually a time when large felines roamed the Earth as an apex predator, they are responsible for approximately one-third of the extinction of all land animals known and even prehistoric accounts of human attack. I have 4 cats, modern day cats have evolved and are continously bred to live along side humans ever since to Sumerian ages. Any animal should be able to be domesticated given evolution, time and dedication. In all seriousness, this topic is vast and rarely understood by those not academically inclined. I think we should let this be determined by actual animal neurologists, apologists and actual animal scientists, not CZcams comments
You just got scientifically roasted.
So that’s why my cat slaps me in the morning when she’s hungry...
@@discontinuedchannel4544 "Wake up, Hooman! I didn't domesticate you so you could lay around ignoring my needs!"
😂i had a cat that used to do that to my mom when I was a kid, too
"They greet and move on."
So they took foxes and made cats, seems like progress, I guess
Lady Gaga's ARTPOP Shiny Blue Ball omg i loved your performance during the 2013 VMA's
I think that's where it should stay. Cats can show affection towards humans, but still can make their own decisions.
That's the best human animal relationship if you ask me.
Foxes are more dog like than cat like
@@OrgBrent not personality wise
Ya boy Brent Foxes are more closely related to dogs than cats but behaviourally they are nowhere near dogs. Dogs are quite unique even among domesticated species; since they've evolved among humans for such an incredibly long time, they bond with humans in a way that no other type of animal does. I think it's fair to say these foxes are behaviourally similar to cats, or at least getting there, just like other domesticated carnivorans, like ferrets and skunks.
People buy fox: "we had no idea they were so mischievous."
Why would you buy a fox if you didn't what a mischievous lil devil? That's the whole point in a pet fox, that's what foxes are known for!
Apparently these owners don’t know how to stop their mischief by chanting “no swiping” at them.
@@lexaproqueen9681 imagine having to bring a crowd to say "no" everytime your fox poops in the table
@@shinji5217 lol if only there was some professional service that could do it for them
Dude if Dora has to say “swiper no swiping” just believe her
THE FOX’S NAME IS SWIPER
"They greet, they interact and then they move on"
Foxes are a whole mood.
Dean Stephens indeed
Cats!
Me getting food from downstairs when a guest is over-
these new dog update leaks are cool af, cant wait for the update
“I’ve gotta ignore you for two minutes”
Dog: “YOU CAN’T!!!”
@Vex Verdis what? lol
@Vex Verdis lmao what's wrong with you?
Vex Verdis your a Karen aren’t you?
@Vex Verdis there’s always that one...
Vex Verdis it’s a joke lmao. He not making fun of dogs you muppet.
This will probably be lost in the comments but....
I live in the suburbs outside Philadelphia, in a rural area that is completely surrounded by urbanization. We have a huge diversity of wildlife and red foxes are no a exception. We have had a generations of the same family living in the naturalized brush on the edges of our property. Over the years they have slowly adapted to be less and less timid of my family. We now frequently see them during times that are non typical like laying on our lounge chairs during the daytime. We don’t give them hardly anything over than leaving our sole occasional meat scraps. So I guess we been unintentionally domesticating them? Nice! They certainly keep the mole, rabbit, and mice population under control. It also thing that being surrounded by urban development on all sides has prevented the coyotes from being able to compete as they require a large amount of territory that our township just doesn’t quite have. Thanks for reading if you got this far
Rytoast99 I found you!
That sounds awesome! Maybe your descendants might have pet foxes some day
I did too
I would love to see those foxes it so cool
Not gonna read all of that but good luck in life
And thanks for sharing.
Thank you Dmiti Belyaev for such an amazing creatures! His statue stood next to my workplace. Greetings from Novosibirsk.
fox being mischievous ??? who woulda thunk.
It would be interesting to see if this "friendly gene" exists in humans.
There's more good than bad.. It's just what you choose to see!!
Jimmy Kirk humans have learned not to trust other humans lol
Probably, seeing as we decided to domesticate the animals
Exactly. Those mortals are stupid and evil creatures to that "earth".
All humans, even psychopaths, have the domestic gene. It's why our ancestors lived in communities and eventually founded cities.
SWIPER, NO SWIPING.
WTF ARE YOU JUSTIN.Y 2.0!!???
Awh, maaaan
nice one
And through 60 of selective breeding, swipers descendants no longer could swipe.
That SOB stole my kid.
2:25
Ah yes, (speaks foreign language), my favorite town in Russia
The closest thing to a domesticated fox I’ve seen was one that couldn’t be released back into the wild after rehabilitation.
It still seemed so nervous and anxious it made me anxious
Well I think its because foxes are solitary creatures and wolves are pack animals. So then that explains why they don’t want to constantly be loved by humans.
kinda like cats. actually i’m not even sure if cats count as domesticated sometimes....
That's true! Dogs interact with people more than cats do because dogs are pack animals and people are part of their pack. Cats, on the other hand, are not like this, and as far as I know neither are foxes.
@@henkkahenrik4183 lions are pack animals and tigers are solitary. They are both cats
@@rengeorge9268, well Lions are like the exception among cats
@@rengeorge9268 cheetahs r the most genetically related to our cats and they r solitary and they also purr and can not roar like a cat
Friend: "are you a cat or dog person?"
Me: *fox go FLOOF*
I am a turtle/tortoise person
I miss RonRon😭
noahsully lol bruh it’s a Mario enemy
@noahsully lol r/woooosh
R.I.P RonRon
Man this was so interesting! A mini window into domestication.
What else could we eventually domesticate?
A lot.
capybaras?
I watched 2 unskipable ads for this. Worth it.
I feel like this is going to lead to "emotional support lions"
well, maybe a "bubastis" or 2 might be a good thing; i'll have 1 thank u.
Then it would be the first time I would actually go to a certain spot and protest on something
Well, you're gonna need a big poop bag for that one.
*bear
i never knew that i wanted something this bad
“When you domesticate a Fox, it doesn’t become a dog.”
Me-“NO BECAUSE IT BECOMES A CAT!”
No.
More like catdog
Mislav Grošinić Yeah. But they act like cats 😹
Murphie_wdwlimelight that is because they’re not as domesticated as dogs, dogs have millennia of breeding and living besides humans. Foxes have nothing close. Neither are cats actually domestic, they still have their wild instincts and they’ve only been around us a few thousand years. That’s why you think foxes act like “cats”. Did you know there are many individual cats as well as some breeds of cat (the Sphinx for ex.) that act like “dogs”. Some breeds of dogs(Shiba inu, ChowChow) act like “cats”. But it’s not really “cat” behavior it’s more of a wild behavior. People just associate that behavior with cats because cats are a common animal most people still think is domestic.
@@catastrophic_biz3608 Not quite. Dogs have a very strict family structure. And if you are the lead "dog" then your dog will literally die for you. Cats don't have such family structures so they won't care as much.
czcams.com/video/wOmjnioNulo/video.html
A good video on the topic, as far as my limited knowledge lets me know.
I just wanted to say this,
Foxes are part of the dog family(canidae).
Foxes are like a mixture between dogs and cats in look and behaviour, but still their own. So I don't think one should ever expect them to behave exactly like dogs through domestication.
I love the colors, the black fox was so cool. Love the coats.
god they're adorable. it seems they were aiming for dogs and ended up a bit more cat, which seems about right for foxes overall. they have cats' "middle of the food chain" wariness, and while they tend to live in family units, they're more pouncers than pack hunters. what i'm interested to see is how generations that are raised and socialized in a human family develop.
Foxes are just a cat OS running on a dog-like shell. Lol
Yeah, I'm happy they ended up a bit more like cats. They're friendly, but not so friendly that they immediately act like they've known a stranger for their entire lives, just like a cat. This is what makes them special because when they grow more familiar with you and start to love and trust you more, you know its real and not just because they were bred that way.
@@Rafael_Fuchs no itˋs the other way around.
@@ayemia1137 sorry, but you're wrong
I really want to see the next generation
“Elite level of friendliness” is also a criteria for being hired at Chick-fil-A
Also elite level of homophobia
@@Paycheck2fan there something wrong with that?
Matthew Kuiper who said there was
remy muah and Matthew Kuiper OF. COURSE. THERE. IS.
@@annaadkins they don't support gays is what I think he means, but they should be treated equally
Foxes are wonderful. Some days ago I saw a fox walking in the backyard. I threw him some bread. I have seen foxes before. I live in eastern-Finland.
I like watching them from a tree stand, happy little critters !! 🐶
“It’s called domestication syndrome and it is wild”
By definition it is absolutely not wild
I literally laughed out loud haha
How can I domesticate my mother in law?
No
Beun Haas underrated comment
Pee on her to show dominance
Only men have the domestication gene. Haven't you noticed that your ears shrank and you became more hairy after getting married?
milký potato 😂😂😂
I love how they actually get wiser as they age like we do. ❤. Hope one day we have them as pets.
i love foxes so gosh darn much!
Sometimes I think I want an exotic pet but then they say how their fox shits on their counter and it reminds me how much I love my dog.
They also DIG like crazy including your bed or couch.
Yeah, i heard that too! i read up on foxes when i was under the delusion that i would get one (too expensive, and most exotic pets are illegal where i live so that also shot it down). They are an extremely nervous animal as well. So a sudden new, anything, can stress them out terribly. It's good for them to actually have a companion animal to live with. another fox, or dog... Also heard that they still have that musk scent...
Dunkleosteus and their water bowl. Ugh!
Yeah, I think I'll just get a cat.
Animal is not a toy. It won't just sit pretily on a cushion and wait patiently for whenever you deicde to pay attention to it and its needs. They pee, they poop, they puke, they need space, vet bills are a thing, you need to dedicate a lot of the time you used to spend in other ways to that animal, once you get it. Even when you are tired, busy, sick, want to go somewhere, or other things.
If you are a clean freak, don't get a pet, period.
Still, dogs and cats are the ones to get, if you decide to. Visit your local animal shelter. Save a life.
Best description of having a fox as a pet that I’ve heard was cat software on dog hardware
Idk why cats have such a bad rep cuz I literally just got woken up an hour ago with Kitty cuddles and purrs
Mary Jane I get woken up with painful wounds on my hands ‘cause the cat decided to sleep on them and had to soften them up first.
So foxes are dicks?
Cats and dogs evolved from a common ancestor so they share traits anyway. Cats are less predictable in their depth of attachment but anybody who's had a lot of experience with cats will have had a few that were very atrached to the extent of being needy.
That is where the comparison to cats comes in but it's an inaccurate comparison because more cats are snuggly than not.
Cats and dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, foxes for less than 100. I think what is being misinterpreted as cat behavior is really the shallow breadth of their domestic traits.
LMAO
The way the lion puts her arms around the human at 0:27. She's like 'FRIEND!!!'
I read about the Russian fox breeding in national geographic a while back.... Pretty cool... I'd like one of them!
Now if only they could isolate the "table pooping" gene
😂😂😂
Can they not just be potty trained?
Foxes can use a litter box.
jacky zhu Foxes can use a litterbox, but they can't be scent trained. They'll try to mark the place and their pee is very strong. So yeah they can be litter box trained but they'll still pee everywhere.
@@goblingamer606 r/woooosh
"I gotta ignore you for 2 minutes"
dog "not gonna happen, bud"
final bossfight: good boy
Dog: Im gonna do whats called a pro gamer move