Joel Embiid On The Harden Fit, KD Rivalry, The Key To Drop Coverage, Ben Simmons, and More | 4 Plays
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- čas přidán 30. 03. 2022
- Joel Embiid joins us for a unique interview we're calling '4 Plays' where we show him 4 different plays that we feel best define who he is as a basketball player. Topics include: Tyronn Lue's comments about his free throw shooting and what some would call 'foul bating', if he feels anyone can truly guard him, trash talking with Kevin Durant (The Brooklyn Nets), his fit with James Harden, The Harden / Ben Simmons trade, why he feels the 76ers fans turned on Ben Simmons, the trade deadline meme, Devin Booker is a low-key massive trash talker, Joel's defensive brilliance in drop coverage, why he's an underrated defender and should possibly be considered for defensive player of the year, reacting to his missed layup in high school, what The NBA MVP award would mean to him, his Michael Jordan / Kobe Bryant video and so much more.
Subscribe to The Old Man and The Three podcast w/ JJ Redick (ESPN) and Tommy Alter CZcams channel today for more highlights. - Sport
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1. He really is a "face of the franchise" type of player.
2. he recognize peers and his equals
3. he's has pride and ego but also aware
4. he's a troll king
he is our troll king. my favorite player ever!
@@keeganweller8380 is this still the case for you?
Even Embiid knows that Giannis deserves some respect. 2 time MVP, DPOY, Finals MVP.
I wish he would've gave Giannis his real flowers and pointed out how he averages these numbers by being purely dominate without "foul hunting"
@@realtalk2046 ‘foul hunting’ is part of the game
@@yxngkillua7700 yes it is. that’s why it’s being talked about in basketball conversations. good job
@@realtalk2046 giannis foul hunts too and that just makes him more dominant
@@pumpkingreg6673 he just does it differently, but they all do try to draw fouls
I love how Joel ask “ where’s giannis” like there’s no way giannis outside the top 3
He's right though
Time stamp?
@@johnlyly7142 17:04
The funny thing is embiid himself isnt top 3
@@ephex6838 🤣🤣
Shaq really got Joel to change his whole mindset about dominating on offense. You can tell by how he describes his strategy now. That probably changed his course from being just an All-Star to being a all time great Center. I’m glad he’s so young
To being an* all time great center
@@elilong2149 Too beeing ahn all thyme grate chenter* someone loves weenies on buns! He likes em LONHG* huh elye
Coaching too
@@shelovet0mmy Yeah people forget about Doc he's a good coach
One of the best centers that can score on all three levels
I really appreciate Joel standing up for Giannis in that top 3 best players and making an argument about him based on winning the chip. It shows that Joel really values winning besides stats.
I wouldn't be mad if Jokic, Giannis or Embiid get the MVP. They all deserve it. Just glad on witnessing greatness.
Gotta put Luka in there too
Damn the nba's mvp these days aint an american born player anymore 😔
@@bryeep that’s not really a sad thing lol😭
@@bryeep I can’t stress how all for it I am. Can’t wait for the next superstar to be from a harder life than poor in Brooklyn. Give me some Albanian who’s only escape in life was basketball.
@@gshivs793 sure if we dont count frist two months of the season :) hell of a player and for sure mvp in the future.
Giannis not being in the top 3 is disrespectful, coming from a Celtics fan
@UCpZVRSsS15SYEhWyxbZFaKA the guy that has his team on an 11th seed?
Jason Tatum most overrated player in the NBA
Agreed, you don’t need to be a huge fan of his to realize the obvious lol
@@nickdags4646 casual
For me it has to be 1. KD 2. Giannis 3. Jokic 4. Embiid
Joel : Giannis is not on top 3 ? that's disrespecful ! love it ahahahaha
The disrespect for Giannis in sports media is getting out of control. Even Embiid knows that Giannis is one of the top 3 players in the NBA right now and most of the analyst just wants to discredit Giannis because KD's toe was on the line, but nobody talks about him not making a shot in the OT in Game 7. Would have been Embiid or KD winning all of Gianni's accolades and everyone would be saying that they are the best players in the NBA without any doubt.
Nah they wouldn't if it was Embiid or KD because Embiid & KD are two of the most hated NBA players in the league. Giannis is one of the most loved players meanwhile. So Giannis gets more love and support than Embiid etc does.
I mean remember when Embiid went to Miluwakee with just role players and dunked Giannis on his court with all Giannis's starters there. Or his 40 point triple double v the Cavs in regular time? Got no media coverage for them pm. But when Giannis gets revenge & Jokic gets a 40 point triple double in overtime, everyone's hyping it up bare.
@@timothysaultham6883 I mean Giannis dropped 40 and a clutch block 2 days ago on Philly/Embiid and I didn't see any coverage from the media.. Did you?
Only thing they talk about is the lakers still...
I think it's cause the bucks were losing some key games throughout the season, and they just expected Giannis to carry them even though the team was dealing with injuries.
@@fuhgettaboudit I did. I saw all the 'Giannis MVP' shiz lol. Also as I said before, Giannis got most of his points when Embiid was on the bench, so technically he didn't get 40 on Embiid lol.
Skip Bayless is the epitome of your statement
I love Joel standing up for Giannis, how the hell do leave him out?
When does joel say this
@@F_Ryan about 17 mins in
The problem is there's so many guys who realistically are top 3 that it's not even funny
@@ollytropics1735 so many? It's literally just giannis, Jokic, Embid, and KD. Those are the only 4 guys you can put top 3 and it wouldn't sound ridiculous.
Everyone else should not be in the conversation. It's ridiculous to have Ja in it and u said this 3 months ago. He's great but he isn't at their level in scoring, Defense, Rebounding, or play making.
Booker is capable of scoring like any one in the league but he falls short on other aspects of his game.
Luka is very close but this season he wasn't top 3 because if his though start.
@@Christopher._M LeBron is also still top three so is healthy Kawhi and unslupped Curry I'd also accept Luka being top 3-5
I love how he called BS on JJ not putting Giannis in his top 3🤣🤣 flustered
Embiid didn’t mean it like that, He’s saying he believes him Giannis, Durant and Jokic are the 4 best players in the world right now. They’re probably all tied Right now for best player in the world
@@thadiusquakawoot8937 Giannis is the best player in the world. No one has the all around dominance that he has.
@@purplemonkeydishwasher4241 Giannis in the clutch is a problem tho because if they need a three it's always Middleton or Jrue who are taking the shot, that's still Giannis' biggest weakness and because of that I think KD ist the best player in the world, he really got no flaws. Giannis, Embiid and Jokic are all on the same level but a healthy KD in his top form, no one can beat him
@@kosmodome47 I personally don’t understand this “Giannis isn’t clutch” stuff. He’s 2nd in the league in 4th quarter scoring this year. Also he’s shooting 54% from the field and 79% from the line in “clutch time” shooting this year
@@willbundy3177 nah you didn't get what I'm saying, Giannis is clutch of course, just like KD, Embiid and Jokic but when we got the scenario you need a three to tie the game, who's gonna take it, it won't be Giannis and the margins are so slim between those players (and KD got plenty of last second clutch shots) that this "small" flaw in Giannis' game is why I don't think that he's the best.
One of the best episodes yet, this guy is one of a kind.
hope he gets his MVP
“Where’s Giannis?” I felt that 😔
I love the way Embiid talks about the C’s role on defence. That’s something a lot of fans and even a lot of players don’t seem to understand especially when it comes to guys like gobert
That presence in the paint is 🔑
I love these long form interviews. I watch them in full. Well done, keep up the good work.
Luka probably will do a part 2… I hope
i finished it in two parts, watched the first 50 minutes when it dropped and just finished the last of it now
@@zenodee lol who cares dude
I love how Joel called out JJ to stand up for Giannis. Despite their mvp rivalry he still gives him credit
Please get Drew Hanlen on the show or one of the other great player trainers. They have a tremendous impact and we don't get to hear about them often. I think Hanlen also trains Tatum so he has so much impact on a couple of the best 15 players in the league. I know Tim Grover was big for MJ and D Wade. I know Phil Handy did great things for numerous players. It could be a part of your coaching series.
Phil Handy is A MUST! The sheer quality of teams and individual players is INSANE.
Back to back championships with 2 different ball clubs in 2 different countries? He must be loaded with knowledge and storiesssss!
Hanlen trains Zach Lavine too btw. So he has bread a couple all stars/superstars. Such a great Trainer!! Handy too!
Grover trained Kobe too
@@michaelogunfowokan3117 there's a lot more. But the big one you missed is Beal. He's been training Beal since high school. Their jump shots are almost identical lol
@@kstabs3255 I forgot about him since I haven’t seen him play in a while!! But that’s a good one too!!
In Philly it’s simple, you get your Praise when it’s deserved & you get your Boo’s & criticism when it’s deserved as well!! Joel got his criticism when he was out of shape and not performing to his potential and the next year he corrected it. Ben got his just the same!! Ben just never corrected anything!!
And now Joel is the most loved athlete in the entire city. I will forever love this man.
Yup I know Jimmy miss Philly
Sounds like Detroit too. Two tough towns
Yall toxic stop makin excuses 😭
Wouldn’t say he didn’t correct anything at all , I’d argue he improved drastically in other areas apart from shooting , but I get it
Great scorers shoot a lot of free throws because no one can guard them so they foul them
Lol
Have you ever even bounced a basketball 🏀 lol
@@davidaitchison3381 he’s a coach
Bahahaha, clearly not a good one
@@davidaitchison3381 Ever heard of Michael Jordan ? Dwayne Wade ? Shaq ? Iverson ? They got a ton of free throws
As a sixers fan, this video makes me so incredibly happy. At some point during the 73rd minute onwards, I think every true sixers fan/philly-area native shed a tear(s). Never have even met yall and probably will never but ima still say it: love you both and thank you jj again for an incredible time in philly!!!
Greatest interview so far, would have listened for a lot more time! Thanks JJ, keep up the good work
They too busy sucking Jokic off.
it really was one of the best
Tatum's was good too
When JJ said he was top 15 20 and tapped tommy😂
facts i wish it was 2 hours
The league is in such good hands with him, jokic, and giannis
This was probably the best interview from the listener perspective from the old man and the three! I love the variety of players that you have on, but I also love when you have returning guests and you don't need to talk about the career recap, and can have a fun, current conversation like this! Keep it up guys!
Joel literally broke that down perfectly and I 100% agree with him
so fugue yet so true
Embiid looking like Andre The Giant. Dude is huugeee!!
What Embiid said it’s all facts… yeah he shoots free throws a lot but how do you get to the line? Obviously trying to score the basket
See but that’s not true. Harden, embiid and many other look for fouls in non-basketball moves. Plowing into someone just to create contact and chucking a wild shot is not trying to score. Doing a TRIPLE rip through and then throwing your arms onto a defender when they move their arms out the way is not a basketball move or “trying to score.” Jj has said all this countless times as have many well-respected basketball minds. I love embiid but this part of his game, the non-basketball moved I explained are not “trying to score”
@@lnd1998 but it's not like other greats didn't do it too. Was a regular part of kobe's game.
My point is I don't blame the players for trying it if the refs are going to call it like that. We all hate it but the answer is the refs
@@lnd1998 except thats like 15% of his FTs at most. way more happen then are called too
@@nachonachoman yes you are right but embiid shouldn't call others for flopping, he just did that to KD... He knows refs are favouring 76s, he should be quiet and let the honey flow. If he would be officiated like for example Luka, who btw is THE most double-teamed player in the NBA and barely gets any fouls called, he wouldn't be in the MVP conversation...
@@incognitoslo I like Luka. A lot. But his FTA is 7 just like KD.
I think we agree mostly. I like all these new stars and I hate the foul game. I just think they will behave how it maximizes their interests. So we need to change that incentive structure
One of my favorite players to watch, triple theat game and handles for a guy that big we've never seen. Shoutout to Drew Hanlen
Jokic got the same handle but i see what you sayin
@@uhhidk4352 Embiid has a better handle white boy stop bringing that slob up
@@uhhidk4352 not at all 😂😂 this man moves fluently, you can’t say Jokic is moving like embiid when embiid is doing hesitation pull ups and double step back threes
@@uhhidk4352 Offensively Jokic/Embiid - what makes Embiid and MVP in my mind is his defense too. Don't think Jokic's is nearly as good and Bball is a two way game.
JJ reaching New Levels with this Podcast
Keep it Up!!
Such confidence. He is amazing!
These interviews are seriously so good. WOW
There are a few interviews which leave you in awe of someone's personality. This was one of them. Love his confidence when talking about people guarding him but he was also humble in acknowledging that he wouldn't have been the player he is today without the attention he got due to Wiggins and being able to make mistakes.
love that man , even if he doesn’t end up winning MVP this year he’s been deserving of it the past two years, hopefully people can give him some more respect because he’s earned it - especially this year
lol
@@crnisinliha6960 nice comment
He is probably an mvp level player but he isn't the mvp
@@chriscus3683 thank you
@@ollytropics1735 not probably at this point - most likely gonna finish top 2 in MVP voting 2nd year in a row , he’s an MVP level player
Giannis has more or the same MVPs, DPOYs, and playoff success than all of the "Top 3" players combined and he did all of that in the past 4 years. How is he not unanimously Top 3?
Because he is on a small-market team.
@@danwhalen3182 and Denver is a big market team?
He has a team PERFECTLY constructed for him, his team even closed out 2 games of a conf finals series last year withOUT him, he very rarely closes out games late in the game, how's that for starters? Let's talk about you and others like you pushing this #GiannisAgenda he is not better than KD, Curry, hell i'd take Lebron, Luka and Embiid over him honestly, prob a healthy Kawhi easily if he is the same player.
@@RealParadox85 Most all-time greats with a lot of championships had teams constructed perfectly around them i mean they're all-timers for a reason. Even MJ, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird etc. played with 2 or more other all-stars who went on to become HOFers. Giannis himself hasn't even played with a HOF-worthy teammate. I won't even address the latter half of your comment cause it was straight up delusional and disrespectful for someone who has constantly proven haters wrong over and over. Giannis has reached a next level of potential with his achievements so far at Age 26 and people like you are too afraid to admit that possibility. Also bringing up a specific instance in last yr's playoffs where he went on to lead a comeback down 2-0 and score 50 with 5 blocks in the clinching game is a terrible idea
Thats why Joel said "thats deadass disrespectful" 😂
This madman really just asked, "who's better, Bill Russell or me?" Gotta love it
I’m taking Jonas Valanciunas over Bill Russell
@@camdonchurch7903 bruh….
@@camdonchurch7903 ew
@@camdonchurch7903 Christian wood would dominate Bill Russell. This is just how the game evolves. High school prospects would give them 50's-60-s players problems. Higher skill level and range.
@@intendedexpression6609 swear to god😂
This new set up with clips is awesome, brings a new dynamic to the podcast!
YES ! LOVE THAT YALL ADDED FOOTAGE !
The way Joel explained why a big should predominantly win the DPOY award was great.
let's goooo, best way to start my day
Facts my guy
I love the format of this episode, it feels more structured and will probably fit well into cut up videos with each clip that you show
JJ is a real one for not dragging Beverley for the sake of content he didn’t switch up on his thoughts for a sound bite, real one fasho ✌🏽
Joel calling JJ out at 17:20 about Giannis is amazing
Man JJ, you're just a natural. Great work and episode, again!
Man I remember being at Joel’s first game at Allen Field House he was just the skinny kid who would be in Lawrence forever. Then a couple weeks later at a sold out Sprint Center out of nowhere he decided to try a dream shake and spun the defender out of the paint for the easy under the basket reverse, as a 7’2” 160lb freshman. lol but once conference games started it was a wrap for hopes he’d stay more than a few more months. The end of this made me feel kind of emotional as well. Great pod
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This is why old man and the three is my favorite podcast, I love the way they formatted this interview specifically for Joel. Dope interview!
Love your content JJ. Keep grinding 😌
Kevin, Giannis, Nikola, Luka & Joel are my top 5, no clue how to put one above the other
You don't need to. GOAT, the best player right now, best for the future ... That's just for media so they have something to talk about. :)
Absolutely fantastic. Easily one of the best interviews yet 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Love the podcast!!! Your on 🔥🔥🔥with your guests👊 Rooting 4 Embid 4 MVP🤞
"thats deadass disrespectful" love Jo lmfaooo
His African brother
Man I love Embiid's accent so much
The format of this episode is a slam dunk. Mixing clips into conversation was incredibly entertaining. Love this episode!
Hey JJ just wanted to say this interview was great. You, jo and tommy made for some funny times over this interview. Can't wait for the next one.
I love this interview 😂😂🔥
16:12 is the timestamp where Joel puts JJ on the spot for making sure he includes Giannis in the top 3 of the league. Glad Embiid had his back because it's beyond disrespectful not to mention him. 2x MVP, 1x Finals MVP + a chip.....why the leave this dude out? He's neck and neck with Embiid and Joker for MVP this year as well, it honestly makes no sense, pure dirty disrespect.
Thx bruh bruh
EMBIID REALLY GOT A LOT OF MY RESPECT FOR THAT ONE TBH
NOW I THIS BUM HATING NO PROBLEM
Respect to Embiid for asking about Giannis! He Knows!!!!
Thanks man!
Keep it up JJ. I hope more superstars and also more veterans will come to your podcast. It's so good and opens up perpectivs
Thank You
This was one GREAT interview between Embiid and JJ! Great stuff!
Get Giannis on here. Need to see the mvp get interviewed.
I think he will only do it during the off season. Ain't no way he's doing it when the season is not over yet.
MVP? You mean Jokic? Yeah, that would be a great interview!
@@rapulous5675 god youre so corny
@@rapulous5675 nah, it's giannis lol
He isn't mates with Giannis or Jokic like he is with Embiid & the other people he interviews. He's played with guys like Embiid/knows them from events.
Get Harden on the pod next, I feel the media has done too much damage to his reputation by creating a false narrative or being hyperbolic
Not hyperbolic at ALL…
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Harden doesnt seem like the guy that likes to talk basketball off the court
Love the changes to the show i hope theres more clip breakdowns in future episodes
So dope how JJ dives into the technicalities for true hoop heads like the drop coverage talk here and asking luka what he's thinking when in an iso etc
Joel Embiid asking who the 3 best players in the league are got me DYING 😂😂
Lost all respect for JJ when he said Jokic and Embiid were a tier ahead of Giannis 💀
yeah me too and he disrespected Giannis in the past too , just after he won the championship. The guy is a clown
This man really showed up in briefs. 🤦🏽♂️
🐐 GOAT
Great podcast. Genuinely awesome guy you are JJ and Joel is such a character as well. Tommy always asking the right questions also.
Joel Embiid gives me Charles Barkley vibes, I can definitely see him doing TNT or having his own show.
Him and Draymond might be working together that would be fun
Bro I know it’s really far off, but I see a spot on inside the NBA for Embid when he retires
Facts his break Downs are legit he articulate hisself very well
100%!!
Draymond and Embiid would be a great next generation of inside the NBA - JJ would probably be a great add in that too , maybe all of them next to Dwade because he’s been on inside the NBA from time to time
@@chriscus3683 nah JJ way to serious to be on inside nba. He is to filtered and self aware. He not really naturally entertaining outside this podcast form of conversation. Honestly same thing with Wade. Lowkey they need someone like Giannis or Blake Griffin, to pair with Draymond and Embid. Someone who actively tried and likes to be entertaining. Basically they just need the opposite of KD lol
Thanks JJ I needed that.
this is such a good podcast. great job with this episode jj
Jokic, Giannis, Embid..Amazing to see the rise and dominance of international players taking over the NBA. Not to mention Luka and etc got next
Never thought I see the day that the top 4 players of MVP are not born in the United States.
@@wthroofing9036 The game keeps growing and evolving
@@wthroofing9036 globalisation. Happens in every sport when you open it up
15:50 i love this segment!
Giannis
Great episode, nice format with the clips too
Awsome interview, to see where he is today despite starting playing basketball so late. He’s a beast!! 🔥
Man I hope we win a chip with jo jo 🏆
It really is insane how much Joel gets doubled and tripled and still finds a way to stay aggressive and score almost 30 a game.
U know what's more impressive? Having a WALL of MEN that know where u r going and put in front of you. And still scoring..cough the real MVP
He can still shoot over smaller guys coming to trap him. gasol and al horford used to lock him up he can stop it
Love the new layout to the video version of this pod. also, GO HEELS!!!
Love how soft spoken he is.
Hahaha, the foul-baiting end 🤣.
It's amazing how much he reminds me of Shaq. "I'm always double-teammed" as an argument and excuse for everything. And the utter confidence "no one can guard me one-on-one". That's 100% Shaq and I can't remember other player like that in this century.
Other than that, great chapter! Congrats team. You're having All-NBA Tatum, Luka, MVP candidate Joel and HoF Pau Gasol in consecutive weeks. Impressive.
so you would rather see him be less confident when he speaks, when in reality his confidence fuels part of his greatness on the court? it forces him to take chances and step outside the box to do those great things he does. Also him saying he and shaq get doubled team, is simply a fact.
I love you JJ but trying to say that Giannis is number 4 in the world it’s disrespectful to his game, he clearly is number 1 based on his defense and what he brings to the game every single night on both ends.. heck he’s the freaking NBA Finals MVP what do we know..
i LOST EVERY respect for JJ. he has disrespected Giannis before on his podcast
Bruh he has an opinion he’s not disrespecting the game of Basketball 😂 I put Giannis either 1 or 2 you clearly have him at 1 and JJ at 4 and that’s cool we disagree but none of us are “disrespecting the game”
Ruben it seems you know very little but keep up the fucktard comments..lol..go you
Lets go JJ perfect timing as I’m boutta go hit the gym n could listen to this now
Great interview!! You got my Like and I just subscribed!! Keep them coming!
You gotta get kyrie on here, especially after the mandate being lifted. And with the duke connection I’m surprised that he hasn’t been on the show yet
I love Joel
Best interview thus far. Nice point in the beginning from Joel
I appreciate the fact that they took the time to make the point about pat Bev. We can all laugh but there IS a reason he's been in the league this long. I used to love playing as the rockets in 2k when he was PG. Too many good PGs at the time and you could lock them down with his perimeter D. Joel is slowly becoming one of my favorite players. This is my favorite channel on CZcams.
An aspect that I really enjoyed about this episode was Joel trying to hold back his own laughter every time JJ was putting together context before asking the big man a question. It's like when you were in junior high and your friend was presenting and you just can't help but laugh because it's hard taking someone you know personally seriously. Made this podcast a lot more authentic imho.
Get Ben Simmons on the show
Tommy is a great co-host. I mean this in a positive way, but most of the time you don't notice him, but when he does contribute it is worthwhile, funny, or just mirroring our feelings. I loved when he was just laughing about the 4th best player moment.
Really enjoyed this thanks
DPOY topic is interesting. For perimeter players I would look at deflections, contested shots & the FG% of those contested shots.
Historically though he has a point.
Defenses are anchored usually by the 5s and not the guards/wings that are the point of attack.
The fact that it hasn’t really changed as the game has opened up for more perimeter oriented & faster paced play, nor that paint shots (including layups) haven’t lost more value than the 3PT gaining more value is a testament to this.
@@tyjohnson3111 I agree with him. I'm saying if perimeter players are candidates then those are the stats I would heavily look at cause they show activity and offensive disruption.
@@217ShowOffBoii I agree with that. The question is how do we value those stats relative to position?
@@tyjohnson3111 perimeter players are more prone to recording steals and deflections, so I'd look at those stats exclusively for them. For bigs, I'd look at how well he handles the paint. Number of contested shots & the FG% of those shots would be looked at for both.
@@217ShowOffBoii and then now how do we add the proper context behind the numbers?
He said " I knew i was going to be average offensively" Bruhhh Was averaging 28 in his sleep since he first stepped on da court what he talkinn bout!!
this was a great episode guys, great work
Great interview!!!!! Thank You
What has jokic accomplished?? Even with his other star players? It’s crazy that Gianni’s dominates and still doesn’t get respect
It's crazy how Joels knees are taller than the couch JJ is sitting on
two of my top 3 sixers of all time doing a podcast 🙌
love this podcast
Great ep with the greatest center of all time
You are smoking crack
Embid spoiled the philly fans. He improves to a top 3 player, has a tough mindset and takes criticism well and they expected Simmons to follow suit. Only one problem not everyone is embid. Simmons is soft.
Bro this comment is so true
Very true
Love watching these
I love the respect that he has for so many other players