@@jurgisvalancauskas4006 Gene & Paul took it so seriously it drove 2 founding members out of the band. Not very clever business if you ask me. They lost a lot of "bread" once Peter & Ace left.
Gene and Paul created that band. It's their baby. The Shiite they went through to get a record deal is all them. No Gene/Paul, no concept of KISS. And personally, their music was at such at a High-school level they could have picked any guitarist to fill Ace's shoes. But once you have a fan base you are stuck with who you have.
@johnbeckwith1361 yet ace put out his album and it kept the kiss sound. Such a good one. Gene Paul struggled to keep that sound, and it hurt them. Ace was having fun. 😂
When this took place, Ace had already quit the band. Paul and Gene knew already. They asked Ace to be part of the promotion for the creatures album until they got a replacement. Plus, Kiss' contract with Polygram records was only with Paul, Gene and Ace. If any one of them quit or was fired, they were in breach of their recording deal. They didnt want the label to know for as long as possible that Ace quit. So as you can imagine, Ace didnt really care about giving a meaningful interview at this point. Paul and Gene had to deal with it and be nice or Ace would just get up and walk away. So now you have the added context behind this time of their career.
@@gmail4218 Like many have said about Paul and Gene, their egos and lack of respect for the people that made them who they became was a nightmare to deal with. Ace may have been drinking but it was probably the only way he could tolerate the two 24/7 10 months a year. Try living with two control freaks for 10 years and see how you do better. Also, Paul and Gene have talked crap about Eric and Bill Accoin and the owner of Casablanca records and on and on. I honeslty think those two dont know how to apprececiate what others have done for them. And lastly, Ace gave them their logo, the foundation for the make idea they all copied. The idea of silver and black costums. The smoking guitar (which is iconic) and Ace recorded the best Kiss solo album. Not bad for a 'knuckle head' as Gene calls him. Paul couldnt even think up a make design, Ace did it for him. So lets give credit where its due. Ace almost single handedly created the Kiss image.
Paul and Gene were a bunch of tight asses. Ace probably felt like he was in a band with his Mom and Dad. Alcohol and drugs were probably the only thing that kept him in the band as long as it did.
Ace did this for them. He wasn't in the band anymore at this point. But showed up to keep the band safe from losing their recording deal. So at this point he didn't care what Paul and Gene thought.
I think he quit caring about what Paul and Gene thought some time between Rock & Roll Over and Love Gun. By this point he had to stay loaded 24-7 just to cope with the absurdity of it all. In the 70’s their schtick worked and they were making bank. However by this time, in the early 80’s, they were washed up and seen by most as a joke. The “we’re just four clowns in makeup” line is indicative of how Ace felt about things.
Especially at this particular time (early 80’s). The schtick had worn so thin. The public saw them as a relic of a bygone decade, and The Elder was their most recent album, and it was absolutely terrible. Ace was only fulfilling a contractual obligation here. He was so over it.
@@steves4533Anyone with even the slightest bit of taste, at least. However I’ve seen an alarming number of people licking Paul and Gene’s taints in these comments, so there’s definitely some haters out there.
That would be awesome to party with that group of dudes.Alex, Ace, Geddy, and Peter! I love the stories about Alex Lifeson's character "The Bag", hilarious, especially cuz it annoyed Gene's arrogant ass!
Ace didn't appear to ever be in character, I bought his solo album and it still stands up today it's a fantastic record! Start to finish, all good things must come to an end
The thing that keeps me laughing is that Gene and Paul looked down on Ace like he was some kind of liability to KISS, but Ace’s solo album is the only 1 of the 4 that actually had the KISS sound. Gene and Paul couldn’t even hold the KISS sound on their own.
I also got all four of the solo albums when they came out, and it didn’t take long to realize that Ace’s was the only one that mattered. The rest of them were completely disposable and irrelevant, but Ace knocked it out of the park. Pretty much every song on his album is a classic, even if only one was a hit. I was only 10 years old at the time when those came out, but I learned quickly who the *REAL* talent was in KISS.
@@Shikta-poobah67 I was too! Lol rode my bicycle 5 miles to k-mart it was bouncing off the bike all the way home, didnt break! no backpack lol good times! 🎶
Paul and Gene wanted to be seen as serious musicians, while Ace, being the most talented, saw the hypocrisy in it all...And he was pretty f-in wasted in most interviews.
Yeah, the difference is that Ace is so talented and skilled that it was easy for him so he didn’t take it too seriously. Gene and Paul were barely qualified so they had to be very focused to have half a chance. The tragedy is that Gene and Paul let themselves be bothered by Ace and they were judgmental of him. You never hear the guys in Led Zeppelin complain about Bonham’s drinking, even though it killed him. Gene and Paul never learned live and let live.
Paul and Gene are immensely talented as well. Paul is one of the best frontmen ever and Gene just put it over the top as the Demon. His look, movements, stage presence are monstrous.
Ace was forced to do these promo interviews, so he did not care what he did or said because he did not want to be there. The interviewer kept asking Ace questions because he was funny and would said whatever he was thinking unlike Paul and Gene who gave the same response to a question everytime they were ever asked that question.
@@Rock4UNow I didn't say it did! I read in the autobiographies that it was around this moment Ace had checked out entirely. He said to Paul that if he hadn't left, he'd would have eventually killed himself.
@@mr.brenman2132 He's fulfilling the rest of his contract here for the 1982 Creatures of The Night promo shows in Europe. This is one of the last Ace appearances with KISS until 96. He definitely knew this was the end. He mentions playing on an upcoming US tour to the media, but it never would happen. He didn't even play on the album, Vinnie Vincent did as an "employee", not an official member. The whole interview is quite sad.
@@Mark3-16 band was never the same or never as good without Peter & Ace... That is why they keep playing set lists with virtually ALL the songs from the original 4 including putting 2 goons in Peter & Ace's makeup...FACT!!!!
@@jmilne5751not true at all. They got fairly big again in the late eighties without ace. And thru the years played a lot of their new material mixed with their old.
@@dhenderson1810 -- Any profession where you are earning serious money IS a serious job, dude. Entertainers are always looked down upon for their choice of profession, as if it's not "real.", and people think entertainers do their gigs "for fun" but if it's paying your rent and buying your food, then it's your JOB, and you need to take it .... SERIOUSLY.
@@DunmoresMovieMania I'd rather hang out with Ace then the two clowns that are all about the money and not so much the fans anymore. I loved Kiss growing up-my bedroom walls were PLASTERED with their posters. It was over for me when Peter and Ace were gone.
@DunmoresMovieMania If Kiss was first starting out, I’d probably agree with you. But by this point Kiss had sold millions or records, had toys, merchandising, and a damn Hannah Barbera movie. Ace for the longest time had zero convo in these interviews up until 1979 in the Tom Snyder interview, which is now considered to be one of the funniest Rock n Roll interviews. I understand that Ace’s drug and alcohol habits negatively effected his work ethic, but at the same time, Gene and Paul need to stop pretending every interview is a corporate meeting, that’s why people like entertainers, because they’re fun.
The fact that they were taking any of this seriously at all, especially at this particular point in their career (early 80’s) is ridiculous enough. Obviously Ace was done taking it seriously. Honestly I don’t think he ever really took any of it seriously, but when the $$$ was rolling in I don’t think it mattered much. By this time though, the ship was sinking, and Ace just wanted off.
@@cornstar1253 Dude, this was their livelihood. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with taking that a little bit serious. I mean, if you would’ve been in kiss back then would you have made it out to be a big fucking joke? They wore theatrical make up, not clown make up. All that Paul and Gene were asking for from Ace was just a little bit of professionalism during interviews.
Ace was really annoying..embarrassingly bad quips/jokes that he thought were really rockstar cool..followed by his own shrill laughs..he was like a nerd trying to be cool among the cool guys lol
@@deanborges4622 He's the ultimate rockstar. Loved by guys like Slash and Dimebag. The rest of the rock community thinks Paul and Gene are d#ckheads. It's a fact. Gene sat in his room and read comic books while Ace gambled, crashed sports cars, drank and drugged, played smoking rocket guitars, hung out with John Belushi, etc. etc. What a nerd. 😆🤣
Would've been hell for me..Ace didn't seem to know when to stop..shrill laugh like a girl,bad jokes..everything he said was supposed to be funny and end in a laugh...annoying..people that defend that obviously didn't have to sit for prolonged periods of time with someone like that
Ace is so funny and genuine. Gene doesn't drink and Paul is a drama queen. Together they make those four funny clowns in makeup a great dynamic. It's OK to not be perfect and goofy.
Ace is literally the only one who was on the level in that whole room. Paul and Gene shoveling all their “all about the fans” platitude bullsh*t..and then Ace dares have a sense of humor and shoot straight. If you can’t appreciate that, I can’t help you 😂
Heavy metal and hard rock were synonymous in the 70s. It's not until the 80s that the two terms came to refer to different genres. In the 70s AC/DC, Aerosmith, Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, Rush, Queen and other similar bands were often referred to as "heavy metal" just as much or as often as "hard rock".
@@ltjoseph9042 unpretentious, guitar driven, hard rock (with little or no blues influence) that places artistry and authenticity above radio friendly, overproduced, cookie cutter, mainstream fluff. Kiss is Glam Rock with makeup.
@@joelperry8187 I'm a metal guitarplayer and here's the thing: Poison, Motley Crue, Judas Priest, Aerosmith, they are considered to be commercial heavymetal. They are smart enough to be radio friendly but are also heavymetal bands.
@@ltjoseph9042 Priest is Metal. Poison is “Hair Metal” a sub genre of HM. Aerosmith is hard rock. Look, I’m not gonna debate you on this but I would not classify Kiss as a Heavy Metal band anymore than I would classify Zeppelin as a HM band.
@@poliziagrammaticale9430 He knows what is, Paul was chasing trends. Heavy Metal was popular at the time with the youth so Kiss had to label themselves Heavy Metal (even going as far as ditching the make up and acting like a Hair Metal band). Same reason why they tried a Disco album and later in the 90's they tried briefly to be Grunge with Carnival of Souls. That was Paul's main issue as a musician, he didn't want to incorporatre new trends into the band, he wanted to be the new trend.
That's just ace.hardly ever serious and then paul and gene polar opposite.its a wonder it lasted as long as it did.but the chemistry the original 4 had playing together was freaking awesome.
Agree but as I said up to alive 2 then the dopes came along for the party after the original started the legacy ..... All other kiss band members after ace and Peter left jumped on bandwagon and gene and Paul told them this is what we do and this is how we do it .....ace and Peter just said fuk it !!
at this time KISS was its lowest point since their bar days on long island. which was quite a fall from grace. Ace was only contractually obligated (they literally begged him to do so and he agreed) to do the Creatures promo tour stuff. But ACE at this point did not GAF about KISS nor did they about him (other than keeping up the image that it was still 3 original members for sales purposes) Gene and Paul actively sabotaged KISS since 1978. Dynasty, Unmasked and The Elder for better or worse show how bad KISS is with Gene and Paul completely in charge. Ace wanted and was pushing for a heavier record after dynasty, and instead they put out Unmasked. still Ace wanted a return to roots album , and they put out The Elder. Gene and Paul are as much to blame for the demise of KISS as Ace and Peter's drug habits.
i agree, i love the elder. but it came after two very bad albums (when compared to their earlier success and quality) the elder would've been good if the Dynasty/Unmasked sound really got them multiplatinum sales. they were trying to imitate Styx and Foreigner at that point from 79-82 the "danger" of songs like deuce, god of thunder, love gun was totally gone by this point. @@eslwgpg1226
Making them feel uncomfortable was the only way Ace could get back at Paul and Gene for fleecing him all those years Paul and Gene were also jealous of Ace’s popularity…
It was 1982/83....Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, The Scorpions, Motley Crue, RATT and others were all beginning to dominate the US Charts. Kiss was running from a few past career moves: the solo albums, the tv movie, and the disco hit I Was Made For Lovin' You. Creatures Of The Night is still a good hard rock album, but it was largely ignored by record buyers at the time
Yeah, Creatures of the Night gave them a little booster shot that kept them on the hard rock radar for a few more months, but it was life support. I mean, obviously the band continued a long time afterward, but they were never the same band, or even the same KIND of band. They started to become a novelty/nostalgia act rather than a vital, important band pretty early. Oh, and when it comes to bad career moves, don't forget The Elder. As a kid I thought I would NEVER hate KISS. But, wow, I sure did after that album. Creatures of the Night gave me a little hope for a comeback, but then with Lick It Up they were back to crap. I can't remember if I even bought Animalize, but I for sure never bought a KISS album after that.
This kind of analysis is a bit unfair. Animalize and Lick It Up were big albums and the band still had a strong following. They weren't doing a nostalgia act since they ditched the make-up. I prefer 70s kiss all the way, but I wouldn't say the band was absent after Creatures. They were still big on the scene until the late 1980s.@@nunyabidness4220
You wanna know what Ace is? He's the essence of rock'n'roll, that's what! Having a good time, playing guitar, and putting business and the industry into 100th place in his life. The proof? He's still touring and releasing great songs while Kiss aren't. Say no more!
I mean he is not that funny here. But I can't for my life understand why Gene and Paul just can't laugh with him or at him and just be a little relaxed now and then. They are always so incredibly full of themselves in every interview. No honesty, no real humour. They're always like two salesmen trying to sell us a thing we already bought. Be a little rock 'n' roll for Christ's sake! And that doesn't mean you have to do like Ace and Peter and do drugs. But just relax for a minute.
I can see why Ace drank and took drugs with Paul and Gene being the total Hitler's of the band he needed to escape just like Peter was in the same boat.
This is an interview from the "Creatures of the Night" period! It was a poorly kept secret that Ace did not at all participate in the recording sessions. Although Ace, for all wants and purposes had already left KISS, he still appeared in interviews and at least 2 or 3 videos for the Album! The fact that Eve's image was on the COTN cover was a clear attempt to hide his departure. Of course, for the few shows that KISS played stateside, many fans were shocked and astonished to see a new face on stage! Many fans didn't like it at all.while many other fans were just blown away by the sheer talent of the "New Guy". Unfortunately, much like Ace, Vinnie had some serious attitude problems! If only..if only Vinnie would have checked his ego a bit and accept his position, if only.. If that had been me, sure, I'd be pissed about only getting a $50K salary and having to stay in a few flea-bag hotels but being on stage as a member of KISS would have been more important to me! Of course, in 1982, 1983..a 50K salary was no.small potatoes!
Ace was staying here just for contract and marketing, he already was out of the band because he was tired of both Paul and Gene so yeah... it's pretty understandable why he is acting like that in this interview. Viewing how the band that you helped to make big became a circus of failures and bad decisions just because of the ego of Paul and Gene.
Ace was only in the band at this point for contractual and promotional purposes. His replacement had just recorded the album. Why they took this route is a mystery but Kiss were already on the road to mass deception and lies with Dynasty and Unmasked. I doubt Gene played on half the tracks either from 81 to 98. They were just poster boys for hired gun studio musicians by this point.
I outgrew Kiss when I was 15. Their music absolutely sucked compared to other WAY better bands at the time like Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Rush, Led Zeppelin, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Deep Purple, etc.
Ace knows this whole thing with Kiss was a Joke the whole time. They werent the rock band he knows he should have been in having to play Mr.Dress up and be serious at the same time. This was purely a venture for children and kids to spend their parents money...they were a cartoon selling albums with toy guns and cartoons of themselves inside the packaging. They stopped being a rock band when they got a record deal finally and succumbed to the business. It was all smoke and mirrors and Ace quite frankly wanted more than being an action figure on a shelf in a box he wanted to be a rock musician. Not a toy, he was actually the most sane person in this band and thats what makes him look insane to those who dont get it. ❤❤❤❤❤
All of the Paul and Gene stooges out in full force. They love their dull accountants. "Can you believe a rock and roller drinks and parties like Ace?!?"
I will never understand why they chose him when they tried out people like JJ French and Bob Kulick. Of course Ace was great in the 70's but the personality of a child, this is not the only interview where he does this
J J French,really.And people comment about Ace's ability.As has been said here Ace is not playing in the band anymore at this stage only making promotion appearance's for the elder.Ace talks off the cuff like he plays.Gene and Paul so often repeat clliched BS thinking it makes them sound smart.Comes off fake
MANY MANY rock stars have been drunk in interviews. Ace was a rock star living like a rock star. Gene just didn’t like it. He wanted to micromanage everything. Paul follows whatever Gene says.
"without our fans we're four clowns with makeup. " classic Ace
that was f'ing great, brutal honesty and hilarious at the same time.
💯 true. Sometimes honesty is brutal.
Well, he's right.
Love the interview where Paul says fans with tears and Ace says their crying because the blew $50 on a ticket. Paul and Gene pissed. Legend Ace.😂
Ich bin so traurig dass ihr aufhört
Narcissists don't like any jokes, unless it is their own.
nobody:
ace: HERE'S MY POPEYE IMITATION
It was pretty good though lol
Ace is correct, 4 Clowns in makeup. Yet Paul & Gene took it totally seriously
It's their business and "bread". Sure they took it seriously.
@@jurgisvalancauskas4006 Gene & Paul took it so seriously it drove 2 founding members out of the band. Not very clever business if you ask me. They lost a lot of "bread" once Peter & Ace left.
Gene and Paul created that band. It's their baby. The Shiite they went through to get a record deal is all them. No Gene/Paul, no concept of KISS. And personally, their music was at such at a High-school level they could have picked any guitarist to fill Ace's shoes. But once you have a fan base you are stuck with who you have.
They kept it going for fifty years and ended up as multi millionaires.
Ace and Peter? Well ............
@johnbeckwith1361 yet ace put out his album and it kept the kiss sound. Such a good one. Gene Paul struggled to keep that sound, and it hurt them. Ace was having fun. 😂
I like how Ace knew he was a character and Paul is just himself and Gene talks like a politician in Demon makeup and costume.
When this took place, Ace had already quit the band. Paul and Gene knew already. They asked Ace to be part of the promotion for the creatures album until they got a replacement. Plus, Kiss' contract with Polygram records was only with Paul, Gene and Ace. If any one of them quit or was fired, they were in breach of their recording deal. They didnt want the label to know for as long as possible that Ace quit. So as you can imagine, Ace didnt really care about giving a meaningful interview at this point. Paul and Gene had to deal with it and be nice or Ace would just get up and walk away.
So now you have the added context behind this time of their career.
Paul later said that he was upset about Ace being drunk during interviews. Very unprofessional.
@@gmail4218 Like many have said about Paul and Gene, their egos and lack of respect for the people that made them who they became was a nightmare to deal with. Ace may have been drinking but it was probably the only way he could tolerate the two 24/7 10 months a year. Try living with two control freaks for 10 years and see how you do better. Also, Paul and Gene have talked crap about Eric and Bill Accoin and the owner of Casablanca records and on and on. I honeslty think those two dont know how to apprececiate what others have done for them.
And lastly, Ace gave them their logo, the foundation for the make idea they all copied. The idea of silver and black costums. The smoking guitar (which is iconic) and Ace recorded the best Kiss solo album. Not bad for a 'knuckle head' as Gene calls him. Paul couldnt even think up a make design, Ace did it for him. So lets give credit where its due. Ace almost single handedly created the Kiss image.
@@gmail4218Well, Paul is a bisexual weirdo. Ace Frehley carried KISS.
Bla bla bla facts.
Yeah Ace is absolutely hammered. Dude just wasn't reliable as a professional musician.
Paul and Gene were a bunch of tight asses. Ace probably felt like he was in a band with his Mom and Dad. Alcohol and drugs were probably the only thing that kept him in the band as long as it did.
accurate
Perfect.🙌🏼
Nailed it!
Being intoxicated is probably the best way to tolerate their bullshit... lmao
And those same alcohol and drugs is why he's not in it anymore.
Ace did this for them. He wasn't in the band anymore at this point. But showed up to keep the band safe from losing their recording deal. So at this point he didn't care what Paul and Gene thought.
I think he quit caring about what Paul and Gene thought some time between Rock & Roll Over and Love Gun. By this point he had to stay loaded 24-7 just to cope with the absurdity of it all.
In the 70’s their schtick worked and they were making bank. However by this time, in the early 80’s, they were washed up and seen by most as a joke. The “we’re just four clowns in makeup” line is indicative of how Ace felt about things.
Paul looks like Bea Arther
Hahaha 🤣... that was good!
🎶Lady Godiva was a freedom fighter🎶
Bea is more masculine.
@@Shikta-poobah67🎶And then there’s Paul🎶
Paul is the Queen of the Nightime World……
I’d be drunk or high all the time too if I had to be around Gene and Paul that much.
Ya of course you would, thats why you’re still stuck in your mommy’s basement commenting on here.
Especially at this particular time (early 80’s). The schtick had worn so thin. The public saw them as a relic of a bygone decade, and The Elder was their most recent album, and it was absolutely terrible. Ace was only fulfilling a contractual obligation here. He was so over it.
"....just four clowns in makeup."
He could’t have been more correct😅
Talentless hacks that needed flash, bang, fire, lights, rising stages, makeup anything to distract everyone from the crap coming out of the speakers.
Ace has always been my favorite
Ace is everybody's favorite.
@@steves4533For good reason
@@steves4533Anyone with even the slightest bit of taste, at least. However I’ve seen an alarming number of people licking Paul and Gene’s taints in these comments, so there’s definitely some haters out there.
I wanted to be Starchild so bad growing up. Luckily when I grew up, I made the right choice.
You, me and millions of others.
Love it when Ace makes them feel uncomfortable in interviews 😂
I got nothing but belly laughs every time I watch ACE during these interviews. I can see why RUSH wanted to hang out with him and Peter after a show.
RIGHT...
Ya ok , hang out with a drunk acting like an idiot. What ever you say bud.
That would be awesome to party with that group of dudes.Alex, Ace, Geddy, and Peter! I love the stories about Alex Lifeson's character "The Bag", hilarious, especially cuz it annoyed Gene's arrogant ass!
Ace didn't appear to ever be in character, I bought his solo album and it still stands up today it's a fantastic record! Start to finish, all good things must come to an end
The thing that keeps me laughing is that Gene and Paul looked down on Ace like he was some kind of liability to KISS, but Ace’s solo album is the only 1 of the 4 that actually had the KISS sound. Gene and Paul couldn’t even hold the KISS sound on their own.
@@totallyfrozen absolutely! Ace was always having fun as well, he never took himself or the "look" serious. He just always joked & laughed
I also got all four of the solo albums when they came out, and it didn’t take long to realize that Ace’s was the only one that mattered. The rest of them were completely disposable and irrelevant, but Ace knocked it out of the park. Pretty much every song on his album is a classic, even if only one was a hit. I was only 10 years old at the time when those came out, but I learned quickly who the *REAL* talent was in KISS.
@@Shikta-poobah67 I was too! Lol rode my bicycle 5 miles to k-mart it was bouncing off the bike all the way home, didnt break! no backpack lol good times! 🎶
Paul and Gene wanted to be seen as serious musicians, while Ace, being the most talented, saw the hypocrisy in it all...And he was pretty f-in wasted in most interviews.
BINGO🙏🏻
How any member of Kiss could ever hope to be taken seriously was always the highest pie in the sky.
Gene is so pissed off yu can see the steam come out of his mouth like the fire breathing Demon. Paul goes alone, But is very annoyed
Yeah, the difference is that Ace is so talented and skilled that it was easy for him so he didn’t take it too seriously. Gene and Paul were barely qualified so they had to be very focused to have half a chance. The tragedy is that Gene and Paul let themselves be bothered by Ace and they were judgmental of him. You never hear the guys in Led Zeppelin complain about Bonham’s drinking, even though it killed him. Gene and Paul never learned live and let live.
Paul and Gene are immensely talented as well. Paul is one of the best frontmen ever and Gene just put it over the top as the Demon. His look, movements, stage presence are monstrous.
Paul looks a bit like Bea Arthur reacting to Rose in a Golden Girls episode at 1:39
This is spot on and should be top comment.
Bea Arthur sounds like a bitch.
Well if Rose wasn’t so zany all the time, Dorothy wouldn’t have to make that face.
Ace was a space comedian
Congrats to Space Ace for his hot new single 10,000 Volts and his upcoming album. At least one KISS member still makes kick ass music! 👍
It sucks , just like you.
Funny how Ace is out lasting the rest….the real thing!
The biggest joke is when Paul said they were a Heavy Metal band 😂
Right. There's no shame in being glam rock.
Disco metal is more like it.
@@dlwhite6537They weren’t anything near disco till Dynasty
sure are: a heavy metal band (that doesn't mind venturing into the world of disco)
More like fake rock band who cant perform without backing tracks..
Sex, drugs and rock n roll ace, party on. Gene and Paul are babies.
Babies that have done more than you ever will in your entire pathetic life.
@@Sinner666hell😭
Ace was forced to do these promo interviews, so he did not care what he did or said because he did not want to be there. The interviewer kept asking Ace questions because he was funny and would said whatever he was thinking unlike Paul and Gene who gave the same response to a question everytime they were ever asked that question.
He wasn't even in the band anymore at this point. Ace was about to have a nervous breakdown.
@@ReeseChown That stuff has nothing to do with the interview.
@@Rock4UNow I didn't say it did! I read in the autobiographies that it was around this moment Ace had checked out entirely. He said to Paul that if he hadn't left, he'd would have eventually killed himself.
@@ReeseChownIf he wasn't in the band he wouldn't have been in makeup.
@@mr.brenman2132 He's fulfilling the rest of his contract here for the 1982 Creatures of The Night promo shows in Europe. This is one of the last Ace appearances with KISS until 96.
He definitely knew this was the end. He mentions playing on an upcoming US tour to the media, but it never would happen. He didn't even play on the album, Vinnie Vincent did as an "employee", not an official member. The whole interview is quite sad.
He knew he was leaving the band at this point
@@Mark3-16 Well he lost ten pounds, so not that much weight
@@Mark3-16 band was never the same or never as good without Peter & Ace... That is why they keep playing set lists with virtually ALL the songs from the original 4 including putting 2 goons in Peter & Ace's makeup...FACT!!!!
@@Mark3-16Why did they have a guy dressed as him playing his dogs for the last 20 years. More like the control freaks needed full control.
@@jmilne5751 The biggest downfall for KISS was Gene and Paul's malignant narcissism
@@jmilne5751not true at all. They got fairly big again in the late eighties without ace. And thru the years played a lot of their new material mixed with their old.
Ace would’ve made a perfect Joker..
Ace is the best! Love the laugh and how light hearted he is.
Okay, YOU hang out with him for ten years and try to do the serious job of earning money in an international rock band.
@@DunmoresMovieMania Being a rocker isn't exactly a serious job though.
It is like saying being an influencer is a serious job.
@@dhenderson1810 -- Any profession where you are earning serious money IS a serious job, dude. Entertainers are always looked down upon for their choice of profession, as if it's not "real.", and people think entertainers do their gigs "for fun" but if it's paying your rent and buying your food, then it's your JOB, and you need to take it .... SERIOUSLY.
@@DunmoresMovieMania I'd rather hang out with Ace then the two clowns that are all about the money and not so much the fans anymore. I loved Kiss growing up-my bedroom walls were PLASTERED with their posters. It was over for me when Peter and Ace were gone.
@DunmoresMovieMania If Kiss was first starting out, I’d probably agree with you. But by this point Kiss had sold millions or records, had toys, merchandising, and a damn Hannah Barbera movie. Ace for the longest time had zero convo in these interviews up until 1979 in the Tom Snyder interview, which is now considered to be one of the funniest Rock n Roll interviews. I understand that Ace’s drug and alcohol habits negatively effected his work ethic, but at the same time, Gene and Paul need to stop pretending every interview is a corporate meeting, that’s why people like entertainers, because they’re fun.
We love you Ace. You are grateful, and present the truth, and you are a superb guitarist
Thanks ACE
They took themselves way too seriously back then
.Ace was a breath of fresh air when he was in the band ..
The fact that they were taking any of this seriously at all, especially at this particular point in their career (early 80’s) is ridiculous enough. Obviously Ace was done taking it seriously. Honestly I don’t think he ever really took any of it seriously, but when the $$$ was rolling in I don’t think it mattered much. By this time though, the ship was sinking, and Ace just wanted off.
I can see why a decade of this would get on Paul's nerves...LOL
I can see how a decade of listening to Paul and Gene's black tar bullsh#t would get on your nerves.
A guy in clown makeup, and high heels being so serious is cringe.
@@cornstar1253 Dude, this was their livelihood. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with taking that a little bit serious. I mean, if you would’ve been in kiss back then would you have made it out to be a big fucking joke? They wore theatrical make up, not clown make up. All that Paul and Gene were asking for from Ace was just a little bit of professionalism during interviews.
Ace was really annoying..embarrassingly bad quips/jokes that he thought were really rockstar cool..followed by his own shrill laughs..he was like a nerd trying to be cool among the cool guys lol
@@deanborges4622 He's the ultimate rockstar. Loved by guys like Slash and Dimebag. The rest of the rock community thinks Paul and Gene are d#ckheads. It's a fact. Gene sat in his room and read comic books while Ace gambled, crashed sports cars, drank and drugged, played smoking rocket guitars, hung out with John Belushi, etc. etc. What a nerd. 😆🤣
Ace was just in it for the fun. Gene and Paul were so serious trying to build a business and a brand. Ace just wanted to play guitar and party.
They all look like they just lost the World Cup final lol
Ace brought too much autentisity, joy, laughter and good vibes into the band. It's just that half of the band really didn't want any of those things.
Ace is the only one who doesn't look bored.
Can you imagine being stuck in the car for miles on end with Ace when they first started touring.
*Yikes!*
They probably didn't mind it as much, but Ace was supposed to be in promo mode during these interviews, not "goofing around with your buddies" mode
Aye but gene and Paul tried to be the sophisticated ones boring farts bet ace and Peter were great to have a beer with
I'd rather be with him than with Paul and Gene
Would've been hell for me..Ace didn't seem to know when to stop..shrill laugh like a girl,bad jokes..everything he said was supposed to be funny and end in a laugh...annoying..people that defend that obviously didn't have to sit for prolonged periods of time with someone like that
Ace is so funny and genuine. Gene doesn't drink and Paul is a drama queen. Together they make those four funny clowns in makeup a great dynamic. It's OK to not be perfect and goofy.
Ace is literally the only one who was on the level in that whole room. Paul and Gene shoveling all their “all about the fans” platitude bullsh*t..and then Ace dares have a sense of humor and shoot straight. If you can’t appreciate that, I can’t help you 😂
The biggest downfall for KISS was Gene and Paul's malignant narcissism
Fact is they couldn't handle ace s alcohol abuse
@@jerrywoods4066 No more abusive than 90% of rockers in the 70s. They’re are and were just fragile.
@@ufmwc ace was completely out of control. That's why he got booted.
@@jerrywoods4066 He quit. It is documented. P&Gs egotism could drive any man to drink.
Irony: Ace is still going and those two clown boys are done. Who was the alcoholic? Who was the drug user? And he's still going?
Going where?
Love these classics. RIP Eric Carr. Passed away the same day as Freddie Mercury 🙏❤️
That's a huge coincidence
I love Ace's honesty
Heavy metal no, hard rock yes
Yeah, I caught that too. KISS isn’t metal. Motörhead, AC/DC, and Black Sabbath were heavy metal at this time. KISS was more glam rock.
Heavy metal and hard rock were synonymous in the 70s. It's not until the 80s that the two terms came to refer to different genres.
In the 70s AC/DC, Aerosmith, Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, Rush, Queen and other similar bands were often referred to as "heavy metal" just as much or as often as "hard rock".
CREATURES OF THE NIGHT IS metal, also animalize, etc
You don't know what heavy metal is.@@Emi4Rock
Who cares bro
I'm back back in the New York groove
1:15 best ace laugh ever
Working Paul must’ve been a complete pain in the ass
@user-pv8jy1nt8f still a pain in the arse
theres no way ace knew where or who he was during this
He's not that out of it buddy.
Lmao
Look its rock n roll. Who cares that's rock
STONED! This is the exact reason why I fucking hate drugs - especially marijuana! It makes you stupid and smells like shit.
Your stupid. He is just having fun and not a stick up his ass like Paul and Gene.
Define Heavy Metal , Paul
Why don't you define
heavymetal, Joel?
@@ltjoseph9042 unpretentious, guitar driven, hard rock (with little or no blues influence) that places artistry and authenticity above radio friendly, overproduced, cookie cutter, mainstream fluff. Kiss is Glam Rock with makeup.
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I'm a metal guitarplayer and
here's the thing: Poison,
Motley Crue, Judas Priest,
Aerosmith, they are considered
to be commercial heavymetal.
They are smart enough to be
radio friendly but are also
heavymetal bands.
@@ltjoseph9042 Priest is Metal. Poison is “Hair Metal” a sub genre of HM. Aerosmith is hard rock. Look, I’m not gonna debate you on this but I would not classify Kiss as a Heavy Metal band anymore than I would classify Zeppelin as a HM band.
@@ltjoseph9042no they're not hard rock at best hair metal glam band
Ace is the only one with a brain. Ace Frehley, lead guitar!
If only he would have used his brain
....Did Paul Stanley just refer to KISS as a "heavy metal band"..?
😂 Yes 😂😂😂
He has no idea what heavy metal is.
@@poliziagrammaticale9430 He knows what is, Paul was chasing trends. Heavy Metal was popular at the time with the youth so Kiss had to label themselves Heavy Metal (even going as far as ditching the make up and acting like a Hair Metal band). Same reason why they tried a Disco album and later in the 90's they tried briefly to be Grunge with Carnival of Souls. That was Paul's main issue as a musician, he didn't want to incorporatre new trends into the band, he wanted to be the new trend.
That's just ace.hardly ever serious and then paul and gene polar opposite.its a wonder it lasted as long as it did.but the chemistry the original 4 had playing together was freaking awesome.
Agree but as I said up to alive 2 then the dopes came along for the party after the original started the legacy ..... All other kiss band members after ace and Peter left jumped on bandwagon and gene and Paul told them this is what we do and this is how we do it .....ace and Peter just said fuk it !!
Paul's always been a stick in the mud. No sense of humor whatsoever.
imagine having a time machine and send slip knot back to greet kiss....their jaws would hit the floor
That’s weird. Did your pill roll under the fridge this morning or something?
at this time KISS was its lowest point since their bar days on long island. which was quite a fall from grace.
Ace was only contractually obligated (they literally begged him to do so and he agreed) to do the Creatures promo tour stuff.
But ACE at this point did not GAF about KISS nor did they about him (other than keeping up the image that it was still 3 original members for sales purposes)
Gene and Paul actively sabotaged KISS since 1978. Dynasty, Unmasked and The Elder for better or worse show how bad KISS is with Gene and Paul completely in charge. Ace wanted and was pushing for a heavier record after dynasty, and instead they put out Unmasked. still Ace wanted a return to roots album , and they put out The Elder.
Gene and Paul are as much to blame for the demise of KISS as Ace and Peter's drug habits.
The Elder was actually a very good album though
i agree, i love the elder. but it came after two very bad albums (when compared to their earlier success and quality) the elder would've been good if the Dynasty/Unmasked sound really got them multiplatinum sales. they were trying to imitate Styx and Foreigner at that point from 79-82 the "danger" of songs like deuce, god of thunder, love gun was totally gone by this point.
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@@eslwgpg1226KISS themselves now say that they hate it.
@@dhenderson1810 that means absolutely nothing to me
I never quite understood Geddy Lee's impersonation of Ace until I watched this video. Now I see how accurate it was.
Every time Ace talks Paul dies inside…reminds me of me and my mom. 💀
That is why Ace is the man!
And you’re not.
Gracious Eric sits there not speaking unless spoken to
He was hired to do the drumming, not talk.
Because that's why Peter and ace left ...it's like oi sit there shut the fuk up gene and Paul are the boss's you sit there !!
Most likely it's because he couldn't string a sentence together.
He wasn’t in the band for long at this point and he was probably thinking “what the hell did I get myself into?”
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 That plays to how Paul and Gene saw themselves as the bosses and the other band members as "indentured servants".
The four clowns in makeup crack was funny.
"Where would we be without our fans? Just four clowns in makeup." 😂
Nahhh actually there was only one clown
Making them feel uncomfortable was the only way Ace could get back at Paul and Gene for fleecing him all those years
Paul and Gene were also jealous of Ace’s popularity…
Are you fucking kidding , without Gene and Paul he’d be nothing. He was fucking drunk all the time acting like an idiot.
It is funny and awkward at the same time. I love Ace but you can clearly see his disfunction
What is his major disfunction?
@@v4v819He was deep in the thoroughs of drug addiction at the time.
You just described every great rock and roller . They're a little funny in an awkwardly disfunctional way .
He didnt wanted to be in KISS anymore... Who would? Creatures of the Night, the song was the last thing they did good until 1985.
No no, Ace could clearly see KISS’s disfunction
Ace is the only star in KISS. He knew they were four clowns in outfits at least. Gene thought he could play bass even.
"Four clowns in make up"
Until Paul had the bright idea to ditch the make up and look like any other metal band.
It was 1982/83....Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, The Scorpions, Motley Crue, RATT and others were all beginning to dominate the US Charts.
Kiss was running from a few past career moves: the solo albums, the tv movie, and the disco hit I Was Made For Lovin' You.
Creatures Of The Night is still a good hard rock album, but it was largely ignored by record buyers at the time
Yeah, Creatures of the Night gave them a little booster shot that kept them on the hard rock radar for a few more months, but it was life support. I mean, obviously the band continued a long time afterward, but they were never the same band, or even the same KIND of band. They started to become a novelty/nostalgia act rather than a vital, important band pretty early.
Oh, and when it comes to bad career moves, don't forget The Elder. As a kid I thought I would NEVER hate KISS. But, wow, I sure did after that album. Creatures of the Night gave me a little hope for a comeback, but then with Lick It Up they were back to crap. I can't remember if I even bought Animalize, but I for sure never bought a KISS album after that.
@@nunyabidness4220 IMO "Unmasked" was their best album.
@@dhenderson1810 I disagree, but, I'm glad you like it. Tastes can differ! :)
Creatures is a fantastic album! They should have stayed together. They needed each other.
This kind of analysis is a bit unfair. Animalize and Lick It Up were big albums and the band still had a strong following. They weren't doing a nostalgia act since they ditched the make-up. I prefer 70s kiss all the way, but I wouldn't say the band was absent after Creatures. They were still big on the scene until the late 1980s.@@nunyabidness4220
*Popeye imitation
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You wanna know what Ace is? He's the essence of rock'n'roll, that's what! Having a good time, playing guitar, and putting business and the industry into 100th place in his life. The proof? He's still touring and releasing great songs while Kiss aren't. Say no more!
1:29 "I look in the mirror" LMAO! Love Eric, he's always been my favorite goofball🥰
Ace came over to my dad's house once for us to jump his space ship,his battery was dead
Ace Frehley keeping it real!
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It must Piss Paul and Gene off At how well Ace's solo Album did. 3 complete duds and than Ace had a solo Album that blew Em out of the water.
I like how Carr is constantly fiddling with his ridiculous jacket (?)/shirt (?).
I mean he is not that funny here. But I can't for my life understand why Gene and Paul just can't laugh with him or at him and just be a little relaxed now and then. They are always so incredibly full of themselves in every interview. No honesty, no real humour. They're always like two salesmen trying to sell us a thing we already bought. Be a little rock 'n' roll for Christ's sake! And that doesn't mean you have to do like Ace and Peter and do drugs. But just relax for a minute.
what is so funny is the contrast of the uptight ones vs the one with no Fks to give.
Ace was tired of being in KISS. He did his way, its a better choice than being where you're no longer feeling good.
I can see why Ace drank and took drugs with Paul and Gene being the total Hitler's of the band he needed to escape just like Peter was in the same boat.
This is an interview from the "Creatures of the Night" period! It was a poorly kept secret that Ace did not at all participate in the recording sessions. Although Ace, for all wants and purposes had already left KISS, he still appeared in interviews and at least 2 or 3 videos for the Album! The fact that Eve's image was on the COTN cover was a clear attempt to hide his departure. Of course, for the few shows that KISS played stateside, many fans were shocked and astonished to see a new face on stage! Many fans didn't like it at all.while many other fans were just blown away by the sheer talent of the "New Guy". Unfortunately, much like Ace, Vinnie had some serious attitude problems! If only..if only Vinnie would have checked his ego a bit and accept his position, if only..
If that had been me, sure, I'd be pissed about only getting a $50K salary and having to stay in a few flea-bag hotels but being on stage as a member of KISS would have been more important to me! Of course, in 1982, 1983..a 50K salary was no.small potatoes!
They were clowns
Ace was staying here just for contract and marketing, he already was out of the band because he was tired of both Paul and Gene so yeah... it's pretty understandable why he is acting like that in this interview. Viewing how the band that you helped to make big became a circus of failures and bad decisions just because of the ego of Paul and Gene.
At the end where the interviewer said “pearl harbor and the explosions” Ace was probably thinking “what a shitty band name” 🤣🤣🤣
Ace was only in the band at this point for contractual and promotional purposes. His replacement had just recorded the album. Why they took this route is a mystery but Kiss were already on the road to mass deception and lies with Dynasty and Unmasked. I doubt Gene played on half the tracks either from 81 to 98. They were just poster boys for hired gun studio musicians by this point.
Pearl Harbor and the Explosions is an absurd name conjuring up images of angry Japanese players, no wonder Ace creased up.
Probably the most sober Ace has ever been😅
ACE is ROCK N ROLL!
Man...This lineup should have stayed FOREVER!!!
KILLER!!
I outgrew Kiss when I was 15. Their music absolutely sucked compared to other WAY better bands at the time like Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Rush, Led Zeppelin, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Deep Purple, etc.
Exactly
Ace knows this whole thing with Kiss was a Joke the whole time. They werent the rock band he knows he should have been in having to play Mr.Dress up and be serious at the same time. This was purely a venture for children and kids to spend their parents money...they were a cartoon selling albums with toy guns and cartoons of themselves inside the packaging. They stopped being a rock band when they got a record deal finally and succumbed to the business. It was all smoke and mirrors and Ace quite frankly wanted more than being an action figure on a shelf in a box he wanted to be a rock musician. Not a toy, he was actually the most sane person in this band and thats what makes him look insane to those who dont get it.
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He always had the best makeup.
Without Ace Frehley and Peter Criss this band would have put out maybe two or three albums and then been an afterthought.
Ace is just being legit rock n roll.
How could they even begin to take themselves seriously wearing that? What a joke Ace was right
Paul and Gene were always pissed at Ace because Ace has a great sense of humor
Imagine having to deal with someone intoxcated like that 24/7 on the tour bus...it gets old really fast.
Never join a rock band then.
i've been in a band and it's def not for me, even though it was just for fun lol @@dhenderson1810
That's okay I cringe every time I hear Paul play a guitar.
Paul as always taking Kiss way too seriously.
@@jpd64Maybe over the last 20 years based on what the original 4 built. He was not doing that well in the mid 90's.
That’s his job and his baby. Hard to fault him for that. It’s actually one of the redeeming qualities of the band imo.
Gene Simmons; the 157th best bass player in the history of rock and roll.
Ace was a doll! Even when his hair was shorter, he was still a doll
Serious Faces of Paul & Gene... Ace having fun & that is why he was getting asked the questions... Paul all corporate as usual..
All of the Paul and Gene stooges out in full force. They love their dull accountants. "Can you believe a rock and roller drinks and parties like Ace?!?"
Love you Ace!
Ace is the true rock 'n' roller here with his attitude. Paul and Gene are businessmen - nothing more.
I will never understand why they chose him when they tried out people like JJ French and Bob Kulick. Of course Ace was great in the 70's but the personality of a child, this is not the only interview where he does this
They told Bob he was folicaly challenged he was bald. French what a joke
Ace’s behavior in these interviews is what makes them so entertaining.
J J French,really.And people comment about Ace's ability.As has been said here Ace is not playing in the band anymore at this stage only making promotion appearance's for the elder.Ace talks off the cuff like he plays.Gene and Paul so often repeat clliched BS thinking it makes them sound smart.Comes off fake
MANY MANY rock stars have been drunk in interviews. Ace was a rock star living like a rock star. Gene just didn’t like it. He wanted to micromanage everything. Paul follows whatever Gene says.
Они прежде всего бизнесмены, а Эйс был любимчиком фанатов и привлекал больше внимания к группе. Им приходилось терпеть Эйса ради денег.
Ace has more musical talent in his pinky finger than Paul and Gene combined. Kiss was never good after Ace Frehley!
That speaks volumes.
I love Ace! He & Peter were my favorites!
I’ll never forget that of all the reaction videos to 2 girls, 1 cup, Ace’s was my favorite