Surprise Knight Discount Box and Mechanicum Battleforce Prices? Warhammer 40K Releases this Week!

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024

Komentáře • 153

  • @auspextactics
    @auspextactics  Před měsícem +3

    CORRECTION: Looks like the Mechanicum box set is a LITTLE pricier than I thought in the EU and UK - seems to be £130, €170 or $210 rather than the £125/€160 I said. Apologies for the error there!

  • @Malllttt
    @Malllttt Před měsícem +336

    40k players are going to eat up that knight box, only for them to go to legends when the codex comes out.

    • @_Morph1ne_
      @_Morph1ne_ Před měsícem +11

      Bingo

    • @Argumemnon
      @Argumemnon Před měsícem +31

      If anything I feel the plastic 30k knights are going to move to the codex.

    • @colinbielat8558
      @colinbielat8558 Před měsícem +25

      ​@@Argumemnon they likely wont, the 30k knights have 30k packaging, and GW tracks sales by game system with the sole exception being demons. They will be moved to legends.

    • @kirbyball97
      @kirbyball97 Před měsícem +18

      ​@colinbielat8558 considering they just remade them in plastic less than 4 years ago, I doubt it. Especially considering unlike space marines and nids. All the knights make sense to still be in the setting.

    • @alexandrudorries3307
      @alexandrudorries3307 Před měsícem +8

      @@kirbyball97 *derisive binary laughter

  • @mistformsquirrel
    @mistformsquirrel Před měsícem +50

    I would so get those knights if I had the money. I've wanted a Cerastus Castigator for ages because I think it'd be really fun to run with a Sisters army as a sort of "Super Paragon Warsuit".

    • @isaacgraff8288
      @isaacgraff8288 Před měsícem +2

      That is awesome!

    • @mattwilliams811
      @mattwilliams811 Před měsícem +2

      I was thinking the exact same thing, but about the Acheron! What's more sisters-y than a flame cannon!

  • @Hallow_the_fur
    @Hallow_the_fur Před měsícem +66

    If only that Admech could be used in 40k

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Před měsícem +15

      You _could_ probably use the tech-thralls as Skitarii, and the Castellax as Kastelans. I doubt opponents will care that you're using power claws as power fists.

    • @nintendo_ruler
      @nintendo_ruler Před měsícem +4

      Just put in some special weapon skittari and an alpha and it will look great

    • @henrymng
      @henrymng Před měsícem +1

      I think tech-thralls and battle servitors would be no problem. As for the vehicle...... problematic

    • @commonerknight8894
      @commonerknight8894 Před měsícem +1

      @@henrymngits a huge vehicle that doesnt represent anything in the current admech line. Sad.

    • @henrymng
      @henrymng Před měsícem +1

      @@commonerknight8894 Baneblade class?

  • @MasterofMistakes
    @MasterofMistakes Před měsícem +30

    I think the Tech-Thralls will make great proxy Servitors, and if it comes in a box of 20 I got 3 friends to split it with?

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Před měsícem +7

      Alas, regular Servitors went the way of Legends.

    • @gaznixon5161
      @gaznixon5161 Před měsícem +1

      The Tech Thralls look almost exactly how the Skitarii are described in the Titanicus book. 20 more Skitarii it is then

  • @The_Penguin_8964
    @The_Penguin_8964 Před měsícem +34

    Oh my, those Mechanicum units looks cool, must purch--
    what?still no 40k rules?fine then (Put back my credit card)🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @saintmayhem9873
    @saintmayhem9873 Před měsícem +17

    I'll buy two of those Mechanicum boxes the day they give me 40k datasheets for the units.

    • @Jatte92
      @Jatte92 Před měsícem +1

      Or .. play the much more "fun" oriented game with the cheaper miniatures that you seem to enjoy?
      Crazy thought
      Swapped to heresy 2 years ago, never looked back, the most fun I've had with a gw game

    • @saintmayhem9873
      @saintmayhem9873 Před měsícem

      @@Jatte92 Yea the problem then would be none of my 40k models have a datasheet in 30k.

    • @GeoffSmites
      @GeoffSmites Před měsícem

      I would buy 3. or maybe even 5.

  • @timunderbakke8756
    @timunderbakke8756 Před měsícem +42

    So the big knight isn’t moving due to 40k overwatch rules, and thus they’ve decided to try to bundle him in.
    I’m not falling for it. Especially after what I saw with all the Horus heresy stuff go to legends for the marines and chaos elements

  • @mc_gaming2007
    @mc_gaming2007 Před měsícem +24

    I do not understand why the Admech isn't in 40k....the models are so cool, and GW knows AdMech is in shambles right now

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 Před měsícem +2

      GW thinks that they sell more models if the models can’t be used in both games. So if you play both games, you will have to buy two complete armies. Seemingly they think this outperforms the selling these units to people that only play 40k.

    • @jillsjakes2519
      @jillsjakes2519 Před měsícem

      @@davidgantenbein9362
      Good news at least, that battle group isn't even available in Australia. They'd sell a lot more by just having them available lol.

    • @GotNo_Juice
      @GotNo_Juice Před měsícem +1

      ​@@davidgantenbein9362 Apparently they keep their departments competitive with each other, which is why there is very limited cross releases as each departments tries to make the most profit. Also why we see no attempt to even allow for options to be cross compatible, Solar Auxilia russ has no sponsons, their infantry all las guns unless you pay more for special weapons, etc. If the heresy team made the admech models, they aren't gonna give them to 40k as they lose profit.

    • @thumpfump2268
      @thumpfump2268 Před měsícem

      @@GotNo_Juicethat idea doesn’t really hold up when you look at the daemons and militia lists for heresy, two armies literally made to make 40k armies playable.

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms Před měsícem +5

    I have Canis Rex as an ally already, and had been looking at getting some Armigurs for the same reason.
    That’s half a knight’s army already.
    So 2 more knights on top of that is gold

  • @Brickfrog427
    @Brickfrog427 Před měsícem +15

    I think the 30k Mechanicum box was designed to be bought by collectors MULTIPLE times. That's why there is no character in it. People who were already paying Forge World prices will have no problem with these new lower prices.

    • @colinbielat8558
      @colinbielat8558 Před měsícem

      @Brickfrog427 well for HH is a little under 600 points, and it's missing a HQ so it's not really an army, although they are releasing a arch magos prime so that will get you to about a 725 points sans upgrades. But even two boxes only gets you about 1200 points again sans upgrades.

    • @dmeep
      @dmeep Před měsícem

      @@colinbielat8558 well isnt HH 3k? so 5-6 boxes and a hq and you are set ;)

    • @colinbielat8558
      @colinbielat8558 Před měsícem +1

      @dmeep yes and no, the unique thing about this box is everything in it is a troops choice or a dedicated transport. Now the force org chart has a maximum of six troops choices. Thallax can go to max of 9 models per unit, castallax to five per unit. You will want to keep the tech thralls in units of 20 because the triarios can only hold 22 models. So there already is an issue coming up, buying two boxes leaves you with an extra thallax if you are maxing squad sizes to save on troops slots. In theory it's not to big a problem, by a third box to have a seven man thallax squad, except then you have a five man castallax squad and one left over. So in this hypothetical army you will have three 20 man tech thralls, each with a triarios as a dedicated transport, one give man castallax, one nine man thallax and one seven man thallax. So with an archmagos prime added in and before upgrades you are at 1840 points, which will get up to 2k once upgrades are added but you are still way below 3k points. You could get three thanatars which will add another 705 points sans upgrades but you then would need some more stuff like myrmidons.

  • @DancingOfDoom
    @DancingOfDoom Před měsícem +21

    Knight box is very interesting, and worth it for those who don’t have an Acheron and/or Castigator; or looking to start a Knight Army with a couple cool looking knights

    • @The_Penguin_8964
      @The_Penguin_8964 Před měsícem +1

      But those two Knight are the weakest Knights from Dark age...🙈😂

    • @kirbyball97
      @kirbyball97 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@The_Penguin_8964the castigator is great lol. The acheron was until overwatch got removed for no damn reason. The castigator makes the using things like helverins much more viable. You've never seen the temper tantrums a -3ap 3 damage gun with anti fly 2+, causes people with flying super units.

    • @fateweaver9
      @fateweaver9 Před měsícem +6

      ​@@kirbyball97 Overwatch got removed from Titanic unit because cheater elves were using Fate Dice for auto hits on their Wraithknights.

    • @koelkast9
      @koelkast9 Před měsícem

      Castigator really needs its bondsman to affect itself again ​@@kirbyball97

    • @devankallasmae
      @devankallasmae Před měsícem +1

      Speaking as an Aussie knight player who will be visiting the uk soon, the fact that I could get BOTH of the Cerastus knights I’m missing for less than the price of a single one of them is super tempting. Upsetting, but deeply tempting. For comparison, 190£ is $173AUD (not including any flgs discounts), whereas the Castigator and Acheron both cost $350AUD individually here.😂

  • @vineheart01
    @vineheart01 Před měsícem +9

    curious as to how much 40k admech translate to 30k...
    I have a fair amount of admech and i love the robot designs, always been sad that only one we got in 40k is the brobots. If i didnt already have 3 dunecrawlers i'd probably just use the bigass robots as dunestriders lol.

    • @mrhjko
      @mrhjko Před měsícem

      There’s little translation between the two systems, sadly. Proxies and fan supplements will be the best way to bring your 40k stuff over. 30k admech are really cool though, and they’re worth checking out!

  • @somerandomdude3729
    @somerandomdude3729 Před měsícem +3

    I really wanna dip my toes into Horus Heresy and the Mechanicum is everything I asked for. It's what 40k AdMech is supposed to be in my opinion.

    • @timunderbakke8756
      @timunderbakke8756 Před měsícem +2

      For someone playing 30k these look great! For someone who is looking for 40k I think it’s a stinker

  • @bobfrancis123
    @bobfrancis123 Před měsícem +3

    Stiiiiilllllll waiting for the Nemesis Claw Kill Team to break free from that big box. And I'm sure a few Dark Eldar players are itching to get their hands on those awesome Mandrakes.

  • @nikot.9920
    @nikot.9920 Před měsícem +18

    Knights player here, looks like I'm getting more big knights

    • @jimmysmith2249
      @jimmysmith2249 Před měsícem +14

      Don't. When the codex drops the 30k knights will go to legends for 40k.

    • @brotherturel352
      @brotherturel352 Před měsícem +5

      No they won’t. The Knights don’t have enough of a range to retire them. Space Marines are bloated.

    • @colinbielat8558
      @colinbielat8558 Před měsícem +5

      @@brotherturel352 they will because GW tracks sales based on the game, and since all the horus heresy knights are in horus heresy branded packaging, it's inevitable they will be moved to legends.

    • @albro8853
      @albro8853 Před měsícem

      ​@@colinbielat8558they will not, @brotherturel352 is right, Knights have a line up of 3 models total, they desperately need more and to expand the range. The cost for those Knights mold... Trust me they will not put them in Legends before a long time!

  • @DeathInTheSnow
    @DeathInTheSnow Před měsícem +9

    Any thoughts on the new campaign rules for Votann in WD issue 503?

    • @WilhelmScreamer
      @WilhelmScreamer Před měsícem

      do tell

    • @DeathInTheSnow
      @DeathInTheSnow Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, Auspex glossed over it a bit here. Some folks on Reddit suspect that this is just holdover material because the codex is coming late again.
      At this rate I'm worried that my Squats are going to get _Deathwatched._

  • @thomasarcher2108
    @thomasarcher2108 Před měsícem +5

    Hopefully this means votann in the near future.... hopefully

  • @Majere613
    @Majere613 Před měsícem +4

    I can't help but think that both Necromunda and HH are being badly hurt by the unnecessary segregation of the hobby. If you could play a small Primaris kill-team or a squad of Guard in Necromunda scenarios it might well help get more 40k players into the game proper, and it's pretty obvious that HH stuff having proper 40k rules would boost their sales too, particularly those AdMech models. You'd think a huge multinational company would be more averse to leaving money on the table.

  • @lelandmartin3970
    @lelandmartin3970 Před měsícem +1

    i really wish i had the money for the mechanicus box. those models are amazing looking.

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 Před měsícem +1

    Lol, that's what you get when you release Knights costing fortune. And when they suck rules wise. And I was excited for that Mechanicum box but since it's not 40k compatible, no money from me GW.

  • @shawnhall9013
    @shawnhall9013 Před měsícem

    Ill be using mechanicum box as proxies for my ad mech army (i only play for fun not competitive) and do some kitbashing.

  • @joshuahackathorn8644
    @joshuahackathorn8644 Před měsícem +2

    I have been awaiting that battle box

  • @TheStargateNerd
    @TheStargateNerd Před měsícem

    Most likely getting the Mechanicum box. At least one unit of Tech Thralls will probably be sold off seperately, but plastic Castellax have been my wish for years, the Triaros might make a fine Dunerider proxy, and the Thallax may be converted into Pteraxii.

  • @wilhelmvonscream3146
    @wilhelmvonscream3146 Před měsícem

    I've been considering the Castigator. Guess now is the time. It definitely looks like they are trying to move the Acheron by attaching it to the Castigator. There has been a Acheron in my local store for months, but all the other Knights can't stay on the shelf.

  • @JohnR1298
    @JohnR1298 Před měsícem

    I would like a box or two of the Techies 😊 Very probably not the Knights due to money, but I am curious about them. Cheers!

  • @mtymus
    @mtymus Před měsícem +3

    What's the bet these knights will be dropped from the next knight codex?

    • @giantnanomachine
      @giantnanomachine Před měsícem

      If this combo box has the HH logo on it, I give it 1:10 odds they will be added to the codex, 2:10 odds they will not go to legends, and 7:10 odds they will go to legends.
      If it has a 40k logo, 9:10 odds all the Castigators will move into the codex, 1:10 that it will only be those two.
      But realistically, these releases are intended as two 30k mechanicum sets.
      My expectation is for the codex we are going to get a Armiger character, whose single model box will replace the current two model box at 80% of the current price.

  • @Zach_Walker
    @Zach_Walker Před měsícem

    I would get the knight box if I didn't already have the Castigator. If it was all 3 plastic Cerastus knights(or the option to change one out for the Lancer) it might be a different story.
    Before anyone says anything about them probably going to Legends "so theres no point in getting them", I just get them for painting projects. Also, they're still in GW's 40k section on their site as well as the HH section.

  • @Dirt1061
    @Dirt1061 Před měsícem +5

    I may have to repurpose those automita for the Great Good.

  • @Harrison-cr2wl
    @Harrison-cr2wl Před měsícem +1

    More heresy content please!

  • @brettmal5298
    @brettmal5298 Před měsícem

    Was just looking at getting a castigator, very interesting indeed

  • @roansythen
    @roansythen Před měsícem

    Good timing, I almost bought both those Knights last night lol. Glad I waited.

  • @Graavigala85
    @Graavigala85 Před měsícem

    I have been holding out of buying that Acheron knight only because I HATE how that head looks, but now that it comes in a same box as Cerastus I will be adding it to my army

  • @danjones3012
    @danjones3012 Před měsícem +1

    I just recently bought a used IK army right before the koolaid man update and just bought a Lancer. The two in the new box set is really just a waste of money imo. One of the two just straight up sucks and the other is too points expensive for what it brings to your list.
    Not to mention that the only big knight with a save/invuln worth the points is the lancer. Canis is nice but all big knights except the lancer either get no save in melee or get taken out by volume of small attacks that just cripple it because 3+ save on a 400+ point model is somehow justifiable even though they should have more and better armor than a terminator.

  • @FullmetalTimo
    @FullmetalTimo Před měsícem

    i would really LOVE to get the Knight Bundle box for my Birthday in august, on my retailer it would be 190€. A single Castigator knight is 130€, so i would get the second one for 60€.
    But all the comments about all HH Knights being pushed into legends with the next Knight codex makes me insecure about it.

  • @Chodor101
    @Chodor101 Před měsícem +1

    Pretty weak discount for knights but given that it's on 2 models with no "filler" it looks prety reasonable by GW standards

  • @user-ks9ez7sh7v
    @user-ks9ez7sh7v Před měsícem

    The new blood angels codex is heeeerrrrreeee

  • @ralfsstuff
    @ralfsstuff Před měsícem

    I'd love to get some knights at a discount but if Chainbreak Lance and Deathwing Assault have taught me anything it's "don't even bother trying to get a box".

    • @Goblinhandler
      @Goblinhandler Před měsícem

      Deathwing assault was a special edition box and the chainbreak lance was a Christmas box, these HH boxes almost never sell out

  • @des-trina
    @des-trina Před měsícem

    If I could get the box for 250 (a 20% discount) I'd get those Knights in a heartbeat.

  • @KurtKn1sp3l
    @KurtKn1sp3l Před měsícem

    I wwish GW would release the Mechanicum box and the Knights box with a month inbetween.

  • @Daemonik
    @Daemonik Před měsícem

    Another tick in the "nope" column for me.

  • @ianroper9911
    @ianroper9911 Před měsícem

    I am not buying any more knights until they make them playable. 5 up inv on ranged attacks is shocking! Any melee army can bring a knight down like scissors to paper

  • @smatting2627
    @smatting2627 Před měsícem

    Castigator is $164 on Amazon. Cerastus is $155. So for $164, you don’t have to own a Cerastus.

  • @markduffy4096
    @markduffy4096 Před měsícem

    Do you know where still has the Solar battle box in the uk? I’d love to get my hands on that

    • @auspextactics
      @auspextactics  Před měsícem

      My channel affiliate Element Games still has some (linked in video descripion). They don't seem to be doing it at discount though unfortunately, you might be able to find it going cheaper elsewhere!

  • @K2HunterX
    @K2HunterX Před měsícem

    New admech, doubt it’ll last.
    I’ve been eyeing the resins until they teased these

  • @oninoni
    @oninoni Před měsícem

    If the Knights Box set would've been 2 Knights with all 3 Weapon Options in the Box I'd buy it but not like this.

  • @Capt.DanInJapan
    @Capt.DanInJapan Před měsícem

    I'm really trying to avoid the Mechanicum box, but I fear that I will inevitably break. Not really interested in much beyond the Thallax, but it is a gorgeous kit.
    The knights are an odd one. Sub-optimal builds and not exactly great for how Knights currently play but they are still nice kits. Just not nice enough to warrant that price tag.
    I said time and again that the 30k Mechanicum release would have 40k AdMech players spitting feathers and they didn't disappoint. Still, it could be interesting to see a Thallax being blinged up to holy relic status.

  • @jimmymoreno8142
    @jimmymoreno8142 Před měsícem

    I definitely plan on picking up this box set. Pre orders were I live in the USA are at 12 noon, but definitely not at midnight.

  • @captainflapjax7240
    @captainflapjax7240 Před měsícem +2

    Ayo Knight discount?

  • @daaaah_whoosh
    @daaaah_whoosh Před měsícem

    I'm consistently surprised how many miniatures come out for 30k or Necromunda or Legion Imperialis, I would have thought they'd put way more effort comparatively into big 40k. That's a nice thing about Kill Team, most of those boxes are standard 40k infantry with an extra bits sprue. But it's weird to see a Mechanicus box that's not easily convertible, I didn't realize 30k was popular enough to justify it.

  • @Argumemnon
    @Argumemnon Před měsícem +1

    Yeah but who wants an Acheron?

    • @kirbyball97
      @kirbyball97 Před měsícem

      Do I want one? Yes. Will I ever use it in it's current state. Lol. No.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Před měsícem +1

      I like the Acheron. :(

  • @JohnDoody-dc8qo
    @JohnDoody-dc8qo Před měsícem

    I'll be getting the knights box 😊
    Nothing else of interest for me though 😢

  • @davijoe2002
    @davijoe2002 Před měsícem

    Assuming the Lancer is selling much better in the other two!

    • @timunderbakke8756
      @timunderbakke8756 Před měsícem

      The Lancer is used in multiple game systems. Nobody in 40k wants these ones, and I don’t know how they do in 30k to weigh in more.
      I fully expect them all to be 40k legends by next edition though as GW wants to isolate HH from 40k for sales projections and stuff

    • @davijoe2002
      @davijoe2002 Před měsícem

      @@timunderbakke8756 I've got a Castigator and I love it! Really hoping they stay in 40k. Doesn't help that the Atrapos is great and the Acheron has been consitantly weak for a while.

  • @RevanR
    @RevanR Před měsícem

    Huh, I thought it was the small knight box set. The flamer must be not popular to the point GW box it with another knight

    • @Ithwallia_Ithnaltal
      @Ithwallia_Ithnaltal Před měsícem +1

      It’s near useless and shouldn’t be a knight weapon

    • @kirbyball97
      @kirbyball97 Před měsícem +1

      The acheron basically doesn't have a niche. It can't overwatch, its melee is mediocre compared to both the castigator and the Lancer. Still costs a ton. It's basically a slightly faster valiant with no anti tank

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Před měsícem +1

      @@kirbyball97 AND you're paying a premium for it, compared to the Questoris kit, AND unlike the Questoris you don't have the option of magnetizing loadouts.
      I have a soft spot for the Acheron, if for no other reason than it's an underdog. But it IS an underdog because it's the worst deal, for multiple reasons.

  • @kliffundersen
    @kliffundersen Před měsícem

    Well i now I feel if they knight are no selling maybe they are going to kick to legend

  • @jannikkiesgen1387
    @jannikkiesgen1387 Před měsícem +1

    A surprising but pleasant move by GW and everyone in the comments frantically searching for the problem....Just enjoy this for a minute!
    Bad decisions will surely come soon again.

    • @timunderbakke8756
      @timunderbakke8756 Před měsícem

      I’m not sure recalling past experiences constitutes “searching for the problem”

  • @hugheja89
    @hugheja89 Před měsícem

    Ad mech box is £130 not £125

  • @Moonwake534
    @Moonwake534 Před měsícem +1

    MINE MINE MINE MINE

  • @zap54312
    @zap54312 Před měsícem

    I don't play them but I'm curious, how much value does the Mechanicum box offer for 40k players? do the units here have direct parallels to 40k like they do for Space Morons or is a lot of this literally useless for anything but HH?

  • @Prometheus_Williams
    @Prometheus_Williams Před měsícem

    Lancer all day.

  • @monsterclown4455
    @monsterclown4455 Před měsícem +2

    the mechanicum is such a wasted oportunity to throw us admech players a bone in 40k...

  • @marrowkaiproductions7053
    @marrowkaiproductions7053 Před měsícem

    Not a giant fan of how the Heresy Knights look so I'll save my wallet the pain.

  • @Optionvideo209
    @Optionvideo209 Před měsícem +1

    That's not a discount. Discount on what exactly? The way over priced no one pays retail anyway boxes? 😂

    • @Goblinhandler
      @Goblinhandler Před měsícem

      A discount on buying the units individually

  • @Damnedlegion40k
    @Damnedlegion40k Před měsícem +1

    Add a comment...

  • @user-fl7mf6dy2x
    @user-fl7mf6dy2x Před měsícem

    The Knoghts are Only on Discount because all knight players hate them^^
    Only the Design is beloved.
    both of the knights are very bad in my opinion played archeron alot .The old ones (questoris) are just better in my opinion (better abilities,bondsman ability and a much better weapon list.

  • @Yormolch
    @Yormolch Před měsícem

    Oh ye gods, I remember the times when knights were 120 € each... But these Bois have always been a bit pricyer. Still, 245 € being the discount priceeans that even fewer people can afford the hobby.
    Me? I will have to stop buying anything for the next few years, as it seems.

  • @magnusburgone5998
    @magnusburgone5998 Před měsícem +1

    I'll be honest I have no respect for games workshop I respect you because this is just your hustle but as for buying anything games workshop it will never happen again I give you a thumbs up because I still like you as a person I just wish you would chosen a different profession it's a shame game's workshop went woke I backed out and I'm proud to say I'll never go back

    • @Malky24
      @Malky24 Před měsícem

      “See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and grind my feet on somebody's couch like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that.
      ...Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddie's couch.”

  • @ProbablyFat
    @ProbablyFat Před měsícem +1

    Got myself some dice!