Beyoncé’s ‘Renaissance’ Movie Shows All the Work. Is It the Peak of Her Power? | Popcast (Deluxe)
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- This week’s episode of Popcast (Deluxe), the weekly culture roundup show on CZcams hosted by Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarelli, includes segments on:
00:00 Introduction
03:11 “Renaissance: A Film by Beyoncé,” the new concert film that intersperses footage from the whole of Beyoncé’s Renaissance World Tour with behind-the-scenes documentation of how it came to be. Sprinkled throughout the scenes of Beyoncé, the performer, and Beyoncé, the manager, are a few moments of vulnerability and visibility into the making of Beyoncé, the person.
42:09 The new album from country superstar Garth Brooks, “Time Traveler,” which is available only as part of a boxed set sold at Bass Pro Shops, and what it means for a legacy artist to have minimal meaningful presence on streaming platforms.
52:43 The finale of “The Golden Bachelor”
59:17 New songs: XXL’s All-Women Cypher Featuring Latto, Flo Milli, Monaleo, Maiya The Don and Mello Buckzz; plus Sexyy Red featuring Chief Keef
01:02:49 Snack of the week
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Not him saying this isn't Beyoncé's best work because the music isn't for him. 👀 Wow wow wowwww woww.
He can't relate to queer black culture. That's what he's really saying.
yeah he was a dummy for that comment like…then why are you even here for this conversation then 🙄
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watching this entire thing put a smile on my face, beyonce is a household name, but her actual talent and work is so underrated and under-appreciated (partly her lack of exposure or promotion). some things need to be said, especially from the prominent music critics.
And there is people out there who there to say that she is overrated. Like what!?? Look at the material!!
@@odonvargas9527 She is famous and all, but never given enough credit as the visionary, artist, and innovator for her actual work.
What I love about this film is that Beyonce tells a beautiful story that connects not only to herself, but to a larger cultural demographic that’s been under appreciated for a long time (aka black queer culture with ballroom and house music). To have this group of people be celebrated and recognized at such a large scale, and to do it authentically and with care is so amazing to see.
she was selling out in dubai months before dont do too much
i feel like it isn't fair to criticize the film just because the album wasn't your favorite. and you also can't say this album isn't her best work just because you personally don't like the sound of it lol. this album wasn't made for straight, white men so it's okay if it doesn't resonate with you, but that doesn't mean it isn't good. i think it was beautiful that Beyonce used her art and talent to pay homage to the black queer community and the ballroom scene.
You have to remove yourself from the situation regarding Blue. Her lessons wouldn't really compare to a "normal" kid. She is so privileged. That a lesson of working hard for her spot at 11 year olds would be monumental. She knows how hard her mom works. And I believe she fully now understands her mom is BEYONCE and knows how much hard work means to that Brand.
Beyoncé always shows her crowd during the shows so I thought what you said about her not showing the crowd enough was weird.
Rennaissance Tour's Specificity is a welcome break from the standard Beyonce setlist of Homecoming/Formation Tour and shows before.
"I think she's still growing" oh absolutely. What I have come to notice about Beyonce is that she is pacing herself. We're still, and I hope I'm right in saying this, yet to receive her best work.
I love how the whole time u two give eachother space to disagree on something n the end result is such a nuanced and balanced take or point of view like I've never ever seen two other people who's conversation is so productive while still being in disagreement about something
LOL, honeybees, Beyoncé isn't trying to convince you of anything. She told y'all she didn't give a damn what you think anymore. She SAID she has nothing to prove. If you were paying attention. 🤷🏾♀️
This comment is pathetic. If Beyonce doesn't "give a damn" what these guys think of her, then she definitely doesn't give a damn about you defending her. Beyonce is so classy yet her biggest 'fans' can be so tacky. I'm going to watch the film again. Maybe you should too. It might put you in a better mood.
I really wish you guys would have asked a Beyonce scholar or fan to join you on this conversation. And the fact that you haven’t even seen the live show…? I was at the show in Seattle in the cheap seats and the immersive experience can’t be compared to the film. Also, Blue is literally 11 y’all. That’s 5th/6th grade. I feel like since she’s looks older, you feel more comfortable critiquing her. The vibe at the show was very much like, this is my daughter and I’m sharing the stage and this moment with her… not “giving” her stardom. It’s not like there was a competition with other 11 year olds? It was a family moment showcasing the black power, womanhood and lineage themes of My Power.
Whatever Beyonce's intentions were, she absolutely 'gave her daughter stardom' by allowing her on stage. Nothing wrong with that. But don't think someone performing on stage should be exempt from criticism just because of their age. When you put yourself out there, you have to be prepared for the peanut gallery. Blue listened to the criticism and improved her dancing. She realized she can't just dance next to mom and think she will get the same reaction her mom gets from the crowd. She put in the work and it made her a better performer. If no one criticized her, she never would've tried to improve and would still be a bad dancer.
I also would have liked someone who had seen this tour live to be here, if only to compare the movie with the live experience, which unfortunately neither of these folks can do.
This is the best conversation and podcast I've stumbled upon in forever! Love it 🥰
I absolutely enjoyed the conversation. For me personally, Renaissance is my favourite beyonce but I completely understand feeling otherwise.
The feeling live, especially going in blind on the set list was amazing
Omg I’ve listened to Podcast for years, this is my first time seeing the video version!
Enjoying this conversation so far! I'm at the moment when they talk about the Blue Ivy sequence... this wasn't Blue's first time performing or doing anything with her mom. This was the first stadium crowd but there's been music videos, photoshoots, the live performance of "Be Alive", etc. I don't understand the "nepo baby" argument in general. People are likely to be interested and want to participate in the world they're apart of - what else is it supposed to be?
I havent seen the Madonna documentary, but its sounds like the drama and controversy carry the film. On the rennaissance tour at least one dancer had an injury another had a death in their family the show malfunctioned many times and im sure there were other dramas. Thankfully the rennaissance film doesn't exploit those dramas and keeps an appreciative view on the tour process and music.
Good convo
1:02:59 Jon in London, everyone take a drink.
TRULY HUMBLE UNDER GANZ
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Damn great convo! Beyoncé bringing folks together 😂❤❤
Hey Hey Fellas! Happy to put faces to the voices ❤❤
Bloopers and Outtakes? Have I been missing something?
You guys haven't watched life is but a dream
Or homecoming.
1:04:48 "There's a certain culinary misery to the United Kingdom."
I don't know if the UK should ban you for the insult, or grant you a knighthood for the accuracy. This statement is all the proof I need that you did in fact live here for some time.
A franchement scoop: A franchement autres " Marion Cotillard" was rapide by her fâcher the fameuse franchement directrice Luc Besson, he allowed her to make carter. Samira Zeghloul signature
"not beating the nepo baby allegations anytime soon" 😂😂
32:00 boohoo the white straight man can’t relate to renaissance. That’s one thing, but to discredit it and call it not one of her best works just because you can’t relate? Yikes, this is one of her best works, and the best parts of the tour are the Renaissance parts. Maybe the gays have more taste.. who knows
It’s actually crazy how the guy in the black hoodie is underscoring the show. The light work, the transitions, the stage visuals, the dancers, THE LOOKS, the fucking robots?? like what. How dare even compare it to the eras tour (no offence)
@@discomillenium8850 I think you misunderstood, he was talking about his personal favorite. You need to understand her recent music are pretty niche, intentionally so, not everyone can get it. If the community hail the music, her goals are met.
Do you think Beyonce Renaissance concert will be released on UHD Blueray in atmos lossless sound? So fans of physical media and have invested in a top notch Atmos system can experience the concert like in the Dolby theater? Maybe give us version of the concert that's like Taylor Swift Eras tour?
I do not like this segment of comparing her catalog. Even if personal opinion, it is a hamfisted argument.
He's a Caucasian. What do you expect lol 😂.
Great convo! Fans need to get a grip and quit getting triggered over anything said about Beyonce that isn't glowing praise. Some of these comments posted are pathetic. I loved her film and plan to go see it again. But I don't feel the need to get offended and come for someone who has different opinions on the film. You can't just say "oh they're white men, they don't get it." Not everyone reveres Beyonce the way some of you do. No need to get all flustered.
Who are you to police anybody reaction to this video? Just because you enjoy this "review " doesn't mean everyone will. You all love tob dish critics, but can't take it
@@SteadyNUnremitting this comment proves my statement.
Like clockwork, of course here comes a white gay man to dismiss the legitimate criticism of the short sighted and ill informed critiques in the video. These white critic's unfamiliarity with the depth of references, historical context, and musical heritage explored in the album and visual representation colored their perception and led to multiple incorrect interpretations of the messages and intent of the work. They do not and cannot comprehensively understand what makes this album culturally resonant to the people for whom it was made, ie the black queer community. You as a white gay man are in the same boat and your critiques and opinion on the matter will always be inadequately informed and lacking in the experiential depth needed for them to be considered credible criticisms. Next caller
Funny, talking about an 11 year old nepo baby as if they wouldn’t do it for their child if they could but, begrudge Beyoncè for it-like do you know how many nepo babies (in regulation real life) are at Ivy League universities?
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Beyoncé didn’t watch Taylor film. She just showed up for a picture and then left. There aren’t any videos of her sitting in the theatre with fans.
They did watch the movie together
@@Ih8teppl2 No they didn't cuz there would have been videos of Beyonce from fans too. Every theatre was filled up that night and no one saw Bey.
@@jujubee6030 well they got a video together sitting in theatre so they probably did they probably didn’t,who’s business is it if they did or didn’t?? Beyoncé has a family to tend to
It's hard to review the renaissance film. If one did not attend the renaissance concert.
I think a review can be done. Footage from the concert itself is beyond impressive and the behind the scenes takes are great. Yes, you miss the immersive experience from the concert itself but what you do get on film is so striking that it can be reviewed. The concert-goers who went should count themselves lucky. But the movie-goers can have a blast as well.
Beyonce WATCHED AND STUDIED MADONNA. Madonna is the only other female THEATRICAL PERFORMER. Madonna is a BLUE PRINRT Beyonce's very aware. I watched Truth or Dare a while ago, Hearing the revues and seeing snippets, of Renaissance it was reminiscent of Truth or Dare. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Another point made was the balance of power. Professionalism is Beyonce's first middle and last name. She is way too much of a control freak to find herself jammed up in litigation with her employees for blurring the lines (LIZOO) Truth or Dare was in 91-92 and was sued by one of the dancers. In this social media era where your career can be destroyed by opportunists overnight, she's beyond careful. Beyonce has studied all these past cases, from Elvis to Whitney, Michael & Madonna. Beyonce is smart enough to join forces with Taylor, knowing that her untapped creativity will never quench. She's been doing this for 25 years, TS is 15 years into her career, it's her moment, Beyonce has no problem playing the second fiddle because she knows that 8 years from now at 50 she will have a new album,, theme, dances, etc and Taylor dream teenage fantasies he broke up with my boyfriend won't hold up. What I found interesting in talking about the choice length was Taylor flew (even by private jet) all the way to London and back . That is a huge favor, so yes I'm interested in the compromise that was made as it felt very dated having Blake Lively there in London as well (circa 2011-13)
Madonna ripped off LGBTQ black culture for decades. Beyoncé is the right person to represent the community and show them in the forefront.
Nah this is poser white guy hive. NOT beyhive.
huh? white guys can't be beyonce fans?
Exactly! They didn't even go to her show