10 Trends That Are Destroying Modern Movies
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I think the biggest problem is that, to a large extent, they have simply stopped writing interesting stories in favor of mindless action and explosions. I. for one, don't go to very many of those kinds of movies.
It reminds me of the SCTV skit, "Farm Film Report" where the main topic is, something blowing up in a movie at the end of the segment something, usually the guest, blows up and they yell "Woooha she blowed up real good!"
Agreed👍👍👍👍👍
Agree as well. I'd even say not only is there very little story telling but also a lack of character development, weak dialogue and severe loss of original content. If only people would stop flocking to theaters on a weekly basis to see the next movie...then perhaps the movie industry would change.
@@seanhaase2128 My understanding is that, given the high cost of such movies, their profit margin is declining, and they are even suffering substantial losses.
They ran out of unique ideas for stories
You forgot: Every movie wants to make a Cinematic Universe because of Marvel but fails miserably.
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And I hate that
Also because of star wars
Negasso Kadir nah. Monster Verse is fine. King Of The Monster is the greatest Godzilla movie ever since Godzilla 2014 but not sure about you.
I don't think that they so much forgot as they ran out of time.
11 : an overdose of pop references (especially in comedies).
It's not that annoying if they're subtly done like in the movie background, although using them in dialogue is annoying.
Especially 80's pop references e.g Dead pool and Ready Player One.
They don't age well, that's the problem. OTOH, it would be silly for something that revolves around, say, videogame or popular culture and not reference popular icons.
Agreed. Especially with superhero films like Deadpool & the Marvel films you’d think they’d excel in using the art of the Easter Egg, but instead the majority of their jokes and references in the films are just to other movies, music, celebrities, etc as opposed to the actual comics they’re based on or just more subtle things that they average viewer wouldn’t pick up on.
I like a few occasional refrences, but I can see why it's annoying.
I hope the "shaky-cam" trend will stop. Oh my god I hope that stops soon.
Ahem
Stinger430
Bloody Spielberg: he used it to show the horror, intensity, and confusion the soldiers went through during the Normandy Landings, and now every two bit Director thinks: I’ll use shaky camera, like Spielberg did, because I want the fight between these two giant lumps of CGI metal to look realistic...
...I’m looking at you, Bay: you talentless bastard!
THANK YOU! I HATE shaky camera work. So unprofessional.
@@ThisCharmingMan1984 I think he means the shaky camera when two characters are having a calm conversation in the afternoon while drinking tea. CAM SHAKE
First noticed it nauseatingly bad in the Bourne Identity.
i think another point is that characters just can't stay dead...
Infinity War is completely meaningless because of this. There's no way Marvel's letting so many huge moneymakers stay dead.
Bad writing is always fatal.
Apparently movies don't have to revolve around stories anymore.
They should never produce a movie with a rushed through or poorly written script. Why throw millions at garbage; is that a good investment? Like trying to put lipstick on a pig. Maybe all the CGI will beautify it up, and make up for the lack of storyline. Apparently, we are all like ADHD children.... if they don't show us a continual array of explosions and flashy things, they think they will lose us.
Some movies like Kingsman and Pacific Rim there was no need for a sequel. They were good standalone movies
But... Silvester Standalone movies are all about sequels!
@@NesrocksGamingVideos The need was ....... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
At least Kingsman's sequel was done very well and was a very standalone movie on its own.
At least the Golden Circle is very enjoyable with a dash of Elton John.
Pacific Rim: Uprising though... Ugh
Especially pacific rim. What an idiotic movie.
What about the lack of films made for thinking adults?
I can give you multiple movies like that just from this year. But first you have to define, what you mean under a thinking adults. Do you want the movie to challenge your emotional intelligence, your beliefs or simply your intelligence? You don't need too much intelligence to understand Shawshank Redemption, yet it's an amazing and really adult movie.
Gab98Spyro 😂
I'm not sure whether to upvote this or downvote it. I vehemently agree and I vehemently disagree. I think "thinking adults" are part of the problem. Movies have bifurcated into "thinking adult" oscar-bait garbage and mindless ridiculous action. I think it's because "thinking adults" don't want to think about adult things any more than Michael Bay fans do. So instead, they watch movies that make them feel like they're being intellectually stimulated when they aren't.
Then the hoi polloi think "I don't want any part in that crap" and embrace ever-stupider movies just to avoid becoming pompous asses.
It's really just both cultures desperately trying to prove they're not the other.
The problem is that the supposedly intelligent adults have no idea where to find those types of movies and no desire to look for them, so they instead expect the standard blockbusters like Transformers and the MCU to become more intelligent.
Thinking adults SAVE money, not spend it.
I don't understand why people complain about the magneto scene. It's a fucking stadium, there are going to be tons of advert signs there.
Because the companies paid the film-makers to show their logo in this scene? If I pay to see a film in theater, I don't want to see logos of companies desperately trying to sell their shitty products... There is enough of advertising in the real world, but for most people movies are some kind of escape from the real world... Or at least they want them to be.
"it's satire bro" You're missing the point, that's specifically why the scene was happening there. Not only is it written to be a commercial it was written without the knowledge that the stadium wouldn't keep anyone out and if you've ever been to one they have at least 4 entrances into them. When you write a scene just for product placement you lose any kind of grasp on actual logic.
Beef Bastard welp and here im me an my simple mind thinking. Well you know what? Magnito lifting an entire motherfucking stadium to trap the president in it was a pretty fucking badass scene.
It really wasn't, despite it being a crap movie The Last Stand with the Golden Gate Bridge was a far more impressive feat. But to each his own.
it's satire bro ikr
In a world of generic movies
One man with originality will change everything
Until people start ripping off his idea
Kyle Campbell I read that with a narrator voice
Kyle Campbell Generic quote is generic. Still why don't you suggest Epic Voiceover Guy at Screen Junkies to read your comment?
It's impossible to make them read my comments
Kyle Campbell maybe you'll be lucky. I thought the same thing and got a response from the creator of the fairly odd parents, Butch Hartman, and also got responses from quite a few youtubers. So maybe you can get a response from them!
Kyle Campbell So true! Whenever somebody manages to actually make something original, companies then try to copy the idea without realizing how it was able to work on the first place.
I'm sick of studios packing movies with A list stars and no character actors. All the stars are hoping they've signed on to a hit multi sequel franchise. The studio hopes so too. In the end we end up with a lot of films that turned out to do so-so business, a lot of films that come & go in a blink because they didn't do 100 mill the first week and the only thing we have to look forward to are sequels of animated Disney films , more Marvel films, and tons of remakes, reboots & re-imaginings.
What, you mean YOU DON'T LOOOOVE all the A-List "Celebrities Who Are Famous for Being Famous"!?
Golly gee whiz, whyyyy not?!
How about the over use of certain actors/actresses?
Can't wait until Brie Larson is in disney's next "star wars."
PG-13, Shakey camera, and jump scare is killing modern movies.
Jump scares ruin horror movies.
B Smoove for horror
Shakey cam only makes sense in the found-footage genre, and even than it only works if you can still SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. Using shakey cam to prevent getting a good look at the monster until the end SEEMS like an good innovative idea on paper, but Cloverfield proved that having that severe of a shake as to keep us from getting a good look at the GIANT SKYSCRAPER SIZED MONSTER WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE FROM THE START is just a vomit-fest and many viewers won't even make it to the end. Using shakey cam to mask jumpcuts, pulled punches, and stunt doubles during action sequences in films (looking at you Marvel and Michael Bay) is just lazy and rather than making the scene flow more smoothly, it just leaves the viewer confused about what's going on, and instead of being pulled out of the film by an obvious jumpcut, they are pulled out as they try to figure out what just happened, who is where, is that the bad guy or the good guy, wait someone just punched him who was that, WHY ARE THEY ON A TRAIN NOW?! All shakey cam does is block you from seeing clearly in the most frustrating, confusing, and literally sickening way possible.
Also fuck jump scares. Just fuck' em. In the ear. With a screwdriver.
B Smoove the pg-13 rating was a mistake.
Here's the real trend killing films: people taking a Rotten Tomatoes score seriously.
The problem with Rotten Tomatoes is that it makes no allowance for mixed reviews.
I don't get it..? Whether Rotten Tomatoes is your preferred review site or not, people will still need somewhere to go and read reviews. Otherwise, we'll just inadvertently indulge all kinds of shit, by buying tickets to things that don't deserve it.
I rely quite heavily on RT. However, I don't rely on the scores alone to tell me whether to see a movie or not. If there are bad reviews, I read them to see what the critics actually say. I'll weight certain critics more. If either audiences or critics have good things to say, I'll usually give a movie a chance. The only time RT stops me from seeing a movie I am interested in is when both critics and audiences clearly hated it. I tend to think most consumers are like me and I don't see that as a bad thing.
Uninformed viewers? I beg your ****ing what now? Are you oblivious to the fact that stories are subjective and that certain things appeal to different people? Blair Witch got a sequel. Eminem sells records. Doesn't mean it isn't ****, just means some people like stuff you think is ****ing awful.
Yes.. i agree
This may just be me but product placements in movies have never really bothered me, unless they’re verbally drawing attention to it, if it’s just in the background it doesn’t bother me
I agree. It's actually more immersive for me to see a character drinking from a can of Coke rather than an can "Cobra-cola" or some other similar but legally distict knockoff. It makes me feel more like I'm watching something happening in my world. If they do it right, the product feels like it naturally belongs there and I don't even realize I'm looking at product placement when I first see the movie. Excessive placement, such as too many instances in a short time (Fast and Furious franchise: "Corona Corona Corona? Corona Corona. Ah Corona!"), lingering the camera on the product logo before moving on, and placement that breaks physics to draw attention to itself (like the Coke can in the background changing position when the camera angle changes so you can still see the logo) is when it gets distracting, and unfortunately all lot of big budget movies do this.
Agreed. I don’t know why they’re talking about the product placement in the Magneto scene being distracting.
That scene’s from a climactic part of the film so I hardly noticed the signs, and even then it uses Pepsi’s old logo which fits in with the 1960s setting of the X-Men film.
It’s only like you say if the dialogue crudely mentions the brand name, if the camera lingers on it or if the logo is overtly seen in an unnatural way then I find it distasteful. Especially when they try to play product placement for comedy like in Jack & Jill or in the new Power Rangers. It’s just annoying. If you promote a product, do it as subtle as possible. Do not draw attention to it expecting the self-awareness to be funny.
Sequels, reboots and remakes. That's the big problem in my eyes. CGI is getting worse as well
It actually got better, but stopped progressing.
Cgi is getting better. Don't be silly.
@@Stevesk0011 it is, but I personally think it stopped progressing. Because CGI of this whole decade seems same to me (from 2010 to 2020)
Acting is terrible as well
And the woke shit!
I miss standalone movies and original screenplays
They make them every year, just move outside of the mainstream
You cant keep originality in movies forever, is "like you born and lived most of your life in USA and you want USA food that you never ate"
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Totally agree
Standalone movies were alright I suppose, but I always used to feel a crushing sense of isolation, especially when watching comedies. Not to mention getting terribly achy legs.
theawecabinet sometimes there are certain movies where I wish there was a sequel 😂 and some where I wish there wasn’t
Unneeded or cringy comedy in serious movies that are used to get a quick chuckle but just feel out of place.
Chemical Omega Thats called bathos and yes, its cancer.
You mean prank telephone gags and yo mama jokes don't belong in a star wars movie? In the words of Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Actualy the movie draggs itself down pretty well on it's own. You can't even count the number of cringe moments in that film. The jokes would be forgivable if it had a better plot that actually led somewhere.
Death By Design Graphics the comedy is only a small part of the problem with that disaster, unfortunately. Many reasons why that movie sucked. Among them: not continuing the story, plot holes galore, a Mary Sue main character (sorry but she just is), forced & awkward politics, treating one of the most famous & beloved characters in all fiction like dog crap, introducing horrible new characters....the list goes on
Glenn Canning Yeah and the hyperspace ram manuver that pretty much destroys all star wars cannon before it. Some people let it slide because it looks cool, but it does ruin previous plot points in star wars. Theres no reason it wouldn't have worked on the first and second death stars.
"I'm rich"_batman
I liked when Captain America went to Nigeria. so movies going to other places is okay. it just doesn't have to be China all the time.
Exactly. New locations are great, as long they don't all go to the exact same *location* ...
There's a reason they almost ALWAYS go to China.
@@thunderbird1921 Yeah.
Honourable mention: Hollywood constantly putting the same performers into films over and over again, e.g. Scarlet Johanson and Jennifer Lawrence.
Well, it's hard to find actresses who have the right (communist) politics and are willing to sleep with the director/producer.
jeffhegarty when there are so many talented actors and actresses out there
Chris Bingley that’s why I prefer what I call the classic old school Hollywood actors and actresses who are there for the work and don’t become involved on the casting couch
I never even noticed the Pepsi or Budweiser signs in X-Men: days of future past
Me neither. I did notice the ihop in man of steel though. And don't even mention the pivotal plot point of Krispy Kreme in Power Rangers.
@@charleynewman5057 The IHOP scene WAS funny though I will admit. I'm okay with some pop culture Easter eggs as long as they're not every five seconds. The Dark Knight Rises had a CSX freight train pass by in the background.
@@thunderbird1921 Yeah, the IHOP scene was unintentionally funny.
The other day I called my friend, and I said let's see a movie. He said "Okay." I said "But we will see only something original. That means No sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots, or comic book superheroes." He laughed and said "Good luck." Of the 18 (eighteen, not a typo) movies out at the time in our area, only TWO filled our requirement, and we had already seen them both. ANOTHER trend, that wasn't mentioned, is that movies more and more are looking like X-box games. The texture, look, feel, action, sound, directing. All very x-boxy.
I remember, when I was growing up, before CGI was a thing, movies had to have something... what was that called? Oh... oh yeah a STORY; an actual story. Yeah, those were great. You can still have special effects, but have a story to drive them, and not the other way around.
Its hard to explain it but also films back in those days had a very sort of ... organic look to them? I guess you can say. Like Substance over spectacle was clearly the driving force for cinima where as now its the apposite. Also and I think this needs to be said and Im surpirised it was not considered in this video but my god. I am SO SICK and tired of Political agenda's being pushed into movies. It is ruining the culture and art form of the medium in such unbeliable ways. I think this is probably one the worst modern trends that is distroying film.
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I like Marvel's tactic for fixing the revealing trailers problem by straight up lying in their trailers.
Let's look at some details from the MCU trailers.
*** SPOILER ALERT ***
- In the first Infinity War trailer, Banner has turned in to the Hulk for the Battle of Wakanda.
- From the scene with Thanos fighting Iron Man post-Star Lord ruining everything, he is seen putting the Space Stone in the gauntlet and having only those two stones when he proceeds to whoop on Iron Man.
- In the second major Infinity War trailer, Thor is still wearing his cloak and the eye-patch while on Nidavellir with Rocket and Groot.
- Also in that trailer, during the scene where Rodgers grabs the hand with the Gauntlet, he only has the power and space stones in it.
- Several pieces of monologue by Brolin in the trailer are not even in the movie
- In the Ragnarok trailer, Hella breaks Mjolnir in an urban landscape with no Loki around
- When he drops down on the rainbow bridge after rediscovering is command over electricity without the hammer, both of his eyes are glowing
And I'm sure the list goes on
This should become the trend then
The problem is these trailers are more interesting than we get in the plot
11. Fight scenes are all the same.
Now that I think of it, I don't remember have I seen any good movies after Machete.....
Forced romances in every. freaking. movie! Enough!
I know. It's even making James Bond look uncomfortable.
I so agree👍👍👍👍👍
absolutely. The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is a prime example of a movie ruined by a shoehorned romance.
Dirvinator The love triangle in The Hobbit was the last nail in the coffin of an already shitty and unnecessary prequel trilogy.
I hate how forced they are because it is just thrown in for no reason
I never noticed those ads when Magneto raised the baseball field. So I think that was a bad example.
Baseball stadiums have ads so it's not out of place. It's organic to the environment.
Now the beats by dre was a good example.
This is why Transformers sucks and Xmen is good
Neither did I
The #1 Worst trend in Hollywood: Shakey Cam...For God's sake, STOP IT!
Also 14 different camera angles to underline the tension. (John Wick did a great job with filming all the action in ONE perspective, way more fluent)
Yep, one thing about action scenes in older movies is that the camera seems capable of staying still for more than five seconds.
They cant. Shakey camera allows you shoot a film cheap because no one notices the mismatched cuts. You dont need a perfect or artistically beautiful take, which just makes the corporations less money
Showing too much in a trailer.
Watch a few trailers and you have done seen the movie. Trailers now days are more like Cliff Notes.
I think He mentioned that ......
@@stevenattanasso2003 That was literally #10.
ive refused to watch trailers after seeing so mnay spoilers in my fav incoming movies
like
WHY
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#1 : Bad writing
That shit has been around since the invention of written language.
Seems like bad writing sells the best. Consumers are the drivers of this dynamic, not directors and writers.
Mushy Pork I could disagree with that statement, is it really bad writing when the public likes what is being shown at the screen? Bad writing has a lot of definitions but maybe what you're talking about is that the public has been brainwashed to like poorly written movies.
A script that is being made is seldom not written well. (Except for most Syfy originals...yikes.) The producers will see a script and despite liking it will still want mad changes. The major reason for this is to take credit. So many producers in Hollywood have no real reason to be making as much money as they do so they have to make their bosses think they're useful so they make changes they believe will make the movie better. The second major reason I see is that producers want to make a film that hits all the major notes on cliche. This is because cliches are essentially popular ideas. The more an idea resonates with the audience, the more ticket sales, right? Well, it seems to be working because cliche films have taken over for decades now. The writer (the original script writer) is the least valuable person in the room when a film is being discussed for production. The script is a guideline and nothing more, and once it has been bought the script can be chopped up, dissected and morphed into an entirely new piece. It's sad, but absolutely true and Hollywood writers actually EXPECT it now. They're just glad they sold the script at all and aren't waiting tables anymore.
Why was this not in the list. Tons of highbudget movies have poor story and uninspired plots
Just make movies like Wallace and Gromit : Curse of the Were-Rabbit. That film is a bloody masterpiece.
True, but I actually think the Wallace and Gromit short films are ever greater.
That masterpiece took 5 years to make, an amount of time many current movie makers would not dare invest in.
Troy Britton omg I just watched it last night lol
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perhaps:
Turning a main character evil in a sequel.
One important thing to remember we are in the golden age of dramatic television. A lot of the best writers are in tv drama.
The darker tone for legendary Godzilla actually worked though.
Mata Nui plus the original movie leaned a little more to the darkside what with warnings of nuclear weapons
Godzilla been dark a few times so adding him in that way dumb.
Marsean Bostic how is it dumb? I much prefer a darker Godzilla rather than a goofy superhero doing goofy pro wrestling moves.
The 1954 film was dark and depressing for a science fiction film at the time.
Yeah, Legendary Godzilla was actually quite "light" compared to the original 1954 Gojira or its sequel in 1956, Godzilla Raids Again. Even Shin Godzilla, while his *appearance* may be darker and such,. the overall movie is still not that dark like that of Gojira or GRA.
Gojira and GRA actually showed some people getting killed by him during his big rampage (at least as best they could given the time), and even afterwards, we get close-ups of the aftermath in that shelter, seeing so many injured / dying (largely from radiation poisoning from being too close to Godzilla) / dead people. Compared to that, the stadium shelter at the end of Legendary Godzilla was bright and happy with the family reunion and such.
So Godzilla really *started* dark, then gradually turned light during the "superhero era" of media, then went back dark at first with his first reboot in the late 80s with The Return of Godzilla / Godzilla 1985 before turning a bit more neutral in the 90s, and then somewhat fluctuated in the 2000s with the Millennium / X era, with some films being more neutral while ones like GMKG went more dark, with Final Wars being more light overall.
99% of these examples was Transformers
Perhaps because Transformers are the worst examples today? :oD
Well the Transformers Franchise pretty much sums up everything thats wrong with the modern Movie Industry :D
Rumplelumpa Snickerdoodles only the new movies transformers 4 and 5 The old trilogy was good
Anonym Anonym No it wasn't.
What was the 1%?
I remember when the first Star Wars movie came out......it was in theaters for over a year...a YEAR....I can't imagine a movie nowadays that could capture the imagination and attention of people for that long. By the time I decide to go see a new movie, it's already gone from the theater. I know I'm getting old, but I don't take THAT long to make up my mind😁
Another bad trend in modern movie is.. when the villain going all power on the heroes and there is no hope suddenly a powerful hero comes and destroys the villain..
Justice league- Superman entrance
Infinity war- thor entrance
Avatar- return of animals lol
Many more.
Yeah, but Thanos won still and isn't dead(?) , so what are you talking about? Also, the Wakanda fight was never truly won either, it was more of just a stalemate with the Black Order haivng a slight advantage. If anything, you could say Thanos' arrival is ore what you're complaining about since when he came in the fight was truly over and he destroyed the Avengers. You should've said Captain Marvel cause next year Captain Marvel is coming and they are going to kill Thanos.
Captain Marvel. Strike of the feminazi 😂
Not sure if the Avatar reference belongs. Sully told Eywa what would happen without help and Augustine was already a part of Eywa so it had direct knowledge of humans destroying their own world. Eywa sending the animals as support was perfection in movies, and Avatar is as close to perfect as a movie can get... like other JC (James Cameron, not pretend jesus) offerings like T2 and Aliens, and even The Abyss. JC knows how to deliver the heroes journey and does setup/payoff better than anyone ever has... or maybe ever will.
Bro the thor scene was epic
These are good 'big picture' problems, but I'm a writer and the thing I always notice first is bad characterization. Like... -Stories being so bloated that the only dialogue they have room for is unnatural-feeling expository dialogue. -Scripts written by people who have never experienced anything beyond college life, so all their characters are entitled and catty. -Dorks who only know how to make female characters "strong" by making the male characters incompetent. -SMART CHARACTERS WRITTEN BY STUPID PEOPLE.
I find it telling that you chose to highlight studio interference at Marvel, where it has occurred in a meaningful way exactly ONCE out of EIGHTEEN films, and not DC, where almost HALF of their paltry FIVE films show obvious signs of franchise baiting and studio meddling.
Joss Whedon also was having issues with Marvel when doing Age of Ultron as well. Also Alan Taylor, director of Thor 2, also butted heads with Kevin Feige during production of that film. Now to be fair, Marvel has gotten a lot better on letting directors do more of their own thing, like James Gunn and Taika Waititi, but it came after some very negative press after Ultron.
+bryn44 Hopefully the same thing will happen to DC After Justice League. Don't get me wrong I loved that movie, but it could have been way better If the studios just let the director do his job.
bryn44 that's not Kevin Fiege it's Ike Perlmutter
The difference is that Edgar has a directing style very suited to comic books and it was a passion project of his. He was the only reason Ant Man is even thought about these days and Disney went and mucked it up and made it one of the worst movies in a very tired franchise.
Totally right. I mean, Antman was a bad example because the movie actually succeeded. Better examples are Suicide Squad and Fant4astic shit
Uh just saying the billboards you see falling in the stadium in X-MEN, would have been there in real life.....
Right? People are too picky about product placement. Everyone gives Jurassic World shit like "look at all the product placement like restaurants and food and shit in the main part of the park ugh" and I'm like "um have you ever been to a theme park before?" Double frustrating because they miss the point of how Jurassic World (the park) is being portrayed in the film as over dependant on funding from (and contracting out to) external sources, from investors like Verizon Wireless, to on site restaurants like Margherita-ville, and this is not only thematically relevant but also plot relevant. It demonstrates how the non-sciencey and non-militaristic members of the park's higher ups (especially Claire and to a point Masrani) allowed the creation of the Indominus Rex to happen. I went on a bit longer than I meant to I'm sorry I have strong feelings about this movie
@@recklessrex Don't be sorry, you were right on point. I agree that it's actually a reflection of real life.
@@zorkmid1083 Circular Reasoning ..... In "real life" there are no X-Men so if You can suspend Your belief in that fact the signs don't even have to be there ......
@@stevenattanasso2003 Hardly. There's nothing circular about adding factors from real life into an otherwise fictional setting
Circular reasoning (Latin: circulus in probando, "circle in proving"; also known as circular logic) is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end with. The components of a circular argument are often logically valid because if the premises are true, the conclusion must be true .....
how about the completely stupid forced humour every 5 secs? that needs a video on it's own....
Which is why I DREAD watching any Marvel/DC movie nowadays.
@@breanntheartist1989 I like MCU movies but I wish that they would tone down the humor. I haven't seen Thor: Ragnarok but I heard that they went overboard with the humor.
@@thema1998 they kind of did go overboard with the humor imo it's basically a comedy movie
@@thatguy_dan it is.
I think it really depends on the movie. Some movies like Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy tend towards comedic moments.
I still think a cinematic universe can be a good thing aslong as you plan it and make quality movies. I AM LOOKING AT YOU DC
Don't forget the Dark Universe.
But I do miss the days when not everything is connected outside of the mcu the universe thing is a disaster
Master Penguin almost forgot about the dark universe, Rest in peace 2017-2017.
anthony cheesman i think the Monsterverse is doing it pretty good.
Roy Blekman Monsterverse is the definition of mindless action without substance or personality. But I admit they were fun and fairly solid.
Why do people complain about everything being a remake or a sequel when great movies like Get Out,Baby Driver,La La Land,Birdman,The Nice Guys,Whiplash and The Shape of Water are hitting cinemas and being amazing.
Alexander Stone I think he’s talking about box office sales determining their success. Not whether they are well made or not.
Add A Cure For Wellness to that
Because the number of remakes and sequels outnumbers the amount of great movies such as the one's you listed
Because modern moviegoers are a bunch of stupid, hypocritical douchebags.
Alexander Stone but hulk...
I don’t know if you mentioned lack of consequences. Franchises refuse to kill anyone due to heir star power and long contracts so there are no stakes. In a marvel movie you know that they save the world because it has to exist for the next movie and you know everyone lives because they are already in the next one.
Infinity war.
Mary Sues. They are always perfect and make no mistakes because reasons. So boring.
@@sjreads7235
A rare exception in today's plot armour rule.
@Nico maybe.
I think the victims of the snappining probably will, but I'm not sure about everyone else.
Quicksilver, Gamora, etc...
Nico First of all, I don’t know about Gamora. She looks pretty dead. Second, what you said may be true, but that will not make Spider-man’s death any less tragic.
You forgot all the dance scenes in animated movies!
Blame Toy Story 2, it preceded Shrek by having the “You got a friend in me” reprise with Wheezy.
Kevin Feige interfering is not a bad thing.Just like Comicbooks need an Editor,Comicbook movies need a guy overseeing the continuity.
DC tried the whole"we are a director driven studio" andd look where they are.Granted,there are a lot of factors involved,but its a major issue,not having a guy with a singular vision.
goluthedevil Yeah, and I don't really see the issue with Edgar Wright as a bad thing, but maybe it is to him. I think it's like what you said.
WB is not directer-driven either.
DCEU had a guy with a vision, but guess what...
"Nooo, I want colours and jokes everywhere, don't make me think, it hurts!"
And then Suicide Squad came and give exactly what that public wants, to show how awful it is... Wonder Woman came to show how great is a movie with the director who knows the story, mitology and characters having all the control (especially on the edition, by the way)...
And came Justice League with the same problem: Snyder made the movie we need, then Warner take him off and Whedon made the movie that public ask for...
Not so good, huh? Well... I hope the studio and the public finally learned the lesson, and Shazam, Wonder Woman 2, The Batman... Anyway, the rest of DCEU becomes more what we need and very less what the complaining people wants.
WB and Snyder didn't really have a vision, Snyder was just the only guy who agreed to make the movie which was only made to keep the rights from the family that created Superman.
dceu is a snyder driven studio
What about the "marvelization" of movies? Now most of the movies must have "jokes" every five minutes, even in the most tense moments as if the viewers were stupid and would get distracted otherwise.
That also happened with Justice League (they hired one guy, don't remember the name, that had made some Marvel movies to end the movie and add reshoots because Zack Snyder had to leave)
+m94h
The reshoots apparently improved Justice League. Word is that Snyder's original cut would have been depressing the the point of being completely unwatchable
m94h
I think you mean Josh Whedon.
m94h I agree, look at Thor: Ragnarok, last 2 Thor solo movies bomb so lets have a joke every minute, people say iit was a good movie, I say it was stupid.
m94h Joss Whedon. His style didn’t really go with the whole DC world. He’s great writing and directing Buffy, Avengers and Firefly, but the clash of two directors / writers in Justice League led to the problems. The jokes aren’t necaccarily bad but some examples (slightly in Thor Ragnarok) just ruin the tense moments.
This is because of the wider demographic audience marvel is reaching for. Making it at least PG-13. I was extremely disappointed when I first saw the first Avengers movie. Too childish and immature and not serious enough.
By trying to appeal to everyone, most movies turn out uninteresting and formulaic.
Not every band can equal Queen doing Highlander
“To be successful, you need to crack China.”
Ummm... yeah, Deadpool would like a word with you guys.
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My point still stands.
A trend that I think is getting annoying in movies. Electronic and hip hop music for the soundtrack.
Most Hollywood movies need more light and less sound...
I think electronic music goes really well in movies with mecha suits and robots, but idk about the rest.
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Particularly when it's utterly anachronistic, like 300 or Lord of the Rings or something.
Depends what context. For a film like Suicide Squad or Venom I can agree the electronic music and hip hop was pretty corny. But something like Black Panther showed how excellent Hip Hop & electronic selections can be tonnes more memorable than another generic orchestral film soundtrack
WhatCulture: product placement is getting out of hand!
Also WhatCulture: has two ads during the video
You forget "Go Woke Go Broke"
Have you not seen the original Godzilla? It's about as gritty as they come. Only the films of the 60s and 70s were fun and light in tone. The rest have been fairly serious.
So Marvel then let Taika Waititi & Ryan Coogler have as much creative freedom as possible. I think what WB did to David Ayer was far worse. Hiring new editors behind his back & re-cutting the whole film behind his back.
I honestly wished that they didn't let Waititi have the freedom to do whatever he wants.
That way, we could've gotten the epic and dramatic finale that the Thor trilogy deserves.
Not that shameless Sandler-esque spoof that tries too hard to be like Guardians of the Galaxy but severely lacks the heart and spirit of those films.
I personally enjoy his brand of humour, What We Did In The Shadows is a great movie. Thor is originally a cosmic character so it does make sense to me. I don't think Taika Waitit is anything like Adam Sandler, watch Hunt for the Wilderpeople, so much heart to it. Sandler's stuff is soulless misogynist unfunny trash.
+FANATIC Planet Productions if they let Waititi to dont have freedom in Ragnarok, Waititi would hated work with the Movie and i could be worse
Martin Snow, Yes he is a good director But Thor should not have been a comedy feast. it's like Marvel/Disney just want fan service and laughs for the generic audience and fuck the long term fans. Fuck the fans that stuck with Marvel when they were bankrupt, Marvel making movies for the Marvel fan is a joke. Making Thor a comedy more is saying we care more about sales than the history of Thor.
Stop saying, “The problem is, is that ...”
The phrase you should use is, “The problem is that ...”
How do you not hear what you said as wrong?
The Marvel example for studio meddling with Directors isn’t a strong one since AntMan performed well at the box office and the critics. Warner Bros meddling with DC is everything wrong with that idea.
I love the gritty reimagining of "lighter" materials.
Man Of Steel was fn great. Subtract a few lense flares and it's a perfect film.
Come at me bro lol
Both agree and disagree with some here. Trailers spoiling and producers overpowering yes totally agree. Studio interference bloody kneecapped The Hobbit more than necessary. As for sequels I don't mind them if they're done right. For franchises that actually have potential and isn't done just for the money. It's remakes I'm no fan of myself.
I don't have a problem with sequels as long as there is an actual story to tell, and not just grinding out a sequel because. And, I'm not all that into cliffhangers. I shouldn't have to make a lifelong commitment just because I happened to go to the wrong movie.
katymvt yes! That's the same for me. A good movie can end with the promise of a sequel without having people sit on the edge of their seat for a year/two depending on when a sequel shows up.
Baby Scatha finally people I agree with lo
Baby Scatha It is possible for a remake to surpass the original but we haven't had one of those in YEARS!
I agree, why not rerelease a movie instead of remaking it? You could add an actor who was in it telling the story to his kids and cut to the movie to make it work, but yea, a rerelease would be far better.
When all is said and done, the film industry would be extremely improved by making a really good story a priority for making the damn film in the first place.
Making a movie with a huge cliffhanger and then cancelling the sequel.
I honestly can't watch trailers for movies anymore. Plot-twists are given away and good jokes ruined.
7:40 "cough" Lego movies was great "cough"
The ninjago one wasn't that good, all the good jokes were in the trailer.
The Lego Batman movie literally has some of my favourite jokes in it. Lego movies are great.
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You are being too harsh to Kevin Feige. He's not the "money" producer, but actually a real movie producer. And he cares about the characters. That's why MCU movies work. And with franchise movies, the directors are only "stand-ins", it's not really their movie (though they can make it their own, like Taika Waititi), it's the studio's movie. They're just there temporarily.
The Problem?
Quantity over Quality.
Nuff said
No problem's with China, now America knows how the rest of the world feels seeing yet another film set in New York.
Klomp dark Exactly! Sick of seeing everything in New York all the time. I wanna see more cities around the world in movies rather than just New York
Does it really hurt your feelings that much? You realize that most of the time, the source material dictates the location for the film, right? Focus your anti-America tantrum on something that actually matters.
The only other place besides, New York city, I want to see destroyed over and over again is the whole state of Texass
barnes 77 not if they have diverse casts
Choose Chicago. Or Cincinnati, Milwaukee (the beer sucks)
marvel interference with directors is primarily to ensure continuity among the MCU.
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Very true. I'm sick of people complaining about all the remakes, reboots, sequels and yet don't try to promote or even seek out lesser- known films or adaptations.
This might be your best video so far (at least of the 50-100 or so I've seen), no bait for angery reactions and proper, clever argumentation. Nicely done.
No offence but, I don't have a problem with remakes or sequels if they do it right. If they actually have artistic purposes behind it.
They need to remake BAD movies and make them good. There are many reasons a film can fail and why not correct the problems and remake a film with a great idea but didn't work out originally. If a movie is a classic, don't remake it (ie Ghostbusters).
DON'T FIX WHAT ISN'T BROKEN, BRO
Moral of the story : watch indie films
The biggest problem is they all try to raise the stakes. Apparently a film can’t be good without some world ending proposition. It would be nice to have good characters at risk, not the entire planet
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Excessive remakes and the misguided perception that fans of old stuff will make it Hollywood money.
News Flash: WE WANT NEW, ORIGINAL CONTENT, HOLLYWOOD
Luis Gomes Star Wars was a lot of effort too. Lol
Whenever they do make original movies like like annihilation nice guys life people don't see them
anthony cheesman it's all about taking risks. You never know what's going to become a hit. No way anyone knew something like the Godfather or the Matrix would catch on.
It's apparently not a misperception if they are making money. If they weren't, one would think the studios would stop.
Well making something original became hard these days.
How about giving into the "Twitter Crowd" when it comes to creating characters? The problem is that the twitter crowd sees protagonists as wish fulfillment instead of their true purpose which is whatever the story needs them to be.
As always, wonderful video WhatCulture!
I started watching foreign movies 15 years ago French, Spanish, Italian, Korean, Japanese etc etc etc
Nowadays, it's just sequels, remakes or something based off a some kind of book or comic-book or video game. It's been a long time since I've seen something original on the big screen... Historical movies don't count
I'm pretty sure "The Shape of Water" isn't based on anything, and if it is I'd like to know what.
It’s a two way thing though. It’s not all just the kind of films that you list, instead it’s just those kind of films that we as viewers decide to pay attention to nowadays. Greats like Scorsese, Tarantino, Nolan, etc are still active and making original films not to mention some of the most commercially and critically acclaimed films at awards shows e.g. La La Land & Moonlight are not based on any pre-existing properties.
I genuinely just think it’s that Studios are releasing there’s more money in the films types you mention since it’s a safe bet and not many people nowadays will watch a film unless it is already acclaimed or already has an established reputation in some form or another e.g. through being based on a previous work
I learned to watch just half the trailer... then it works out!
Or just once
Most of the time my reaction to a trailer is "ok, good. don't need to see that one either."
TMNT was ironically originally dark and gritty in the comics and were rebooted into kid friendly cartoon characters.
A lot of great points are made in this video about what's hurting the movie industry nowadays! For years I've been had that same "checklist" approach to whatever films I've seen, predicting how a movie will go as I watch it based on the footage I've seen in trailers. It can often hurt the more surprising or emotional aspects of the film because either the surprise, like those used as examples in this video, has been ruined, or the emotion is sucked out of the scene since you already know things will end well from whatever footage from the trailer has yet to appear in the movie. (Hope that sentence isn't too much of a run-on.)
Also, don't even get me started on this sequel business. I like when singular films become film series, but making a film as a first entry in a series without knowing whether or not a sequel will actually happen is just so wrong. I know I've liked recently films like The Man From U.N.C.L.E. or The Nice Guys which left the door open for potential sequels, but they still concluded in a way that was satisfying enough so a sequel didn't feel necessary. But, though I've yet to see it, I heard that 2017's King Arthur: Legend of the Sword almost entirely tried to set up a whole franchise despite the film ultimately underperforming at the box office. It's lazy, really, making a film in a way that should guarantee you'll be back for another. Just make one good film and if people want to see more, wonderful! If they don't, then at least they had a satisfying experience watching the one movie.
+1 splitting films in HALF
Yeah, that trend's actually stopped now, thanks to Allegiant bombing hard at the box office.
Would you go watch a 4h or 5h movie without a single break?
Yeah, that's why big movies has to be split in half.
No, its because you get more money for the studio, Rodrigo.
jack66623 that's my issue with infinity wars right now
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There ain't no issue anymore. Avengers 4 is a completely different movie mow.
Deadpool, not a sequel, or remake, it cleaned house in 2016
Not the original IP either.
Deadpool was average at best, if you consider filmmaking aspects. People just lined up to see a superhero swear onscreen.
I find myself rewatching old original movies more so than being interested in anything current....
The checklist thingy @ 1:30 Is what i do with Movie Trailers as well as with Game cases with picture windows of curtain set pieces
PG 13 ??
finally someone said it.
how many years you have?
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Why so?
This doesn't make any sense. A movie's rating has no bearing on its quality.
With the trailer problem, I recommend to e everyone the "One Trailer Rule." Basically, you only watch the TEASER and steer clear of everything else. I've been doing it for years and it works.
Everything else I don't know.
Thank you! I did that with Infinity War & all the Marvel movies since Age of Ultron and it worked out like a charm!
Only works for those that aren't greedy and stupid
The bad thing about China being a big influence on movies is not that there are scenes set in China, but that the studios have to work with the censorship in China! For example the Ancient One in Doctor Strange wasn't a Tibetan man in the movie, because that wouldn't slide in China
Reboots and remakes, action sequences with a million cuts, toxic fandoms (looking at you, Star Wars) and Tyrese Gibson.
Those are the things ruining the film industry.
Are you complaining that good films might come out all year?
Wes Strong No, the problem is that these aren't really good films. Get rid if the hype and they're very bare, but also these big budget movies coming out all year smother smaller movies.
Films ending with cliffhangers is pretty damn traditional. It used to go on in all the time back in the golden age of Hollywood for b films, specially the sort aimed at kids.
The film would end on a cliffhanger, not end halfway through act 2. There's a difference.
And is the best way to show that they're really planning all the saga, not just "let's make this single movie, and if get a success, we'll invent something from nowhere to justify the sequel", as no one will notice.
I think there's a disparity here between what critics want (or say they do) and what the public enjoys.
Overly dark color correction. The epitome being Solo, when you watch it, you wonder if there's something wrong with your TV.
you forgot identity politics
Flight Of The Intruder is my secret shame. It got destryoed by critics, but I still love it. The point is that the character of Camparelli, the skipper, was played by Danny Glover and they even gave him an awesome line about there being a "wop in the woodpile..." The GREAT part was that there was no SJW culture (or really even much of an internet) so nobody was saying how awesome it was that the movie had diversity. Obviously, Camparelli was a white Italian in the original novel by Steven Coonts. If it came out today, there'd be articles everywhere talking about it bring the "FIRST" movie EVER with a black man being so high ranked in a military role, which it wouldn't be, but the SJW's love to retcon history for their regressive religion.
We are doomed to a whole generation of nostalgia pushing, and unless SJW "culture" disappears by then, cinema will be officially dead. We gots a LONG way to go. :/
Does anyone remember when a movie made under $10million and was still considered a success?
It's not just movies that are falling into the trap of reimagining everything to make them more "real". Its most media. For example, it is a common trend in gaming to make everything brooding & gritty even if it doesn't follow suit with previous installments in a series. Developers keep on spamming more grit and more menace because it is more realistic they say; even when what is happening in the game is the most fantastic and overtly unrealistic thing possible.
I never noticed the stadium advertising until you mentioned it
#1 Shared Universes / Using existing material isntead of creating something new.
How about all the best action scenes it is always too dark to see anything clearly .......
The advertisement for your other channels at the end of the video goes really well with what you just criticized about modern movies.
I want a top ten list titled "Movies so Good They Were Bound to Flop"