Which Octopath Should You Play First?

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
  • With Octopath Traveler 2 being out for roughly a month, I figured it would be a good idea to discuss whether you should start with the newer title or go to Octopath Traveler 1 as your entry into the series. Hopefully, with this video, it will give you a good idea of what to expect from both titles.
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Start
    00:34 - What Octopath 1 Does Well
    03:35 - The Better Entry
    04:17 - Octopath 1 or 2?
    04:37 - Octopath Traveler 2
    07:53 - Octopath Traveler 1
    10:30 - Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 56

  • @ninjakirby777
    @ninjakirby777 Před rokem +25

    Reasons to play octopath 1: Primrose
    Reasons to play octopath 2: Ochette
    Therefore just get both :)

  • @lewis9s
    @lewis9s Před rokem +64

    Pros and Cons for both
    Octopath I
    +Easy to start and learn
    +Very cosy start in most chapters and get you invested immediately
    +Teaches you how to use Path actions
    +A lot more free and open as you can just make a dead sprint for every corner of the realm with nothing but random encounters to stop you
    +More well hidden secrets
    +Finding job shrines and bonus dungeons can be fun and rewarding
    +The “hidden” bosses are both challenging, rewarding and handled better overall
    +Primrose’s Entire storyline
    -Very Formulaic with every chapter having an obligatory dungeon and boss at the end
    -Little Character interaction
    -The overarching plot can be easy to miss
    -Some character’s abilities are less useful than others (e.g. Olberic’s boosting defence is made completely obsolete when you get Tressa who can side step any physical attack anyway)
    -Can be much more challenging and difficult for newcomers to the series
    -Final dungeon is hidden behind a vague side quest with a gauntlet of 8 bosses before you can challenge it with no save point before the fight
    Octopath II
    +Easy to start and learn
    +Major and Minor Quality of life improvements (battle speed, auto dialogue, etc.)
    +Narrative intertwines in a way that is easier to understand
    +Immediately gets you invested in every storyline
    +Overall quality of every story is improved and have better execution
    +Save point before final boss and no fear of having to fight 8 bosses just to face the final boss again
    +Easier for beginners
    +Latent Powers add a new layer of strategy
    +Environments look incredibly pretty and are overall more memorable (New Delsta, *[REDACTED SPOILER]* ‘s Island, Canalbrine, Ku and Cropdale to name a few)
    +Boats now make things more interesting (new secrets)
    +Bonus Party Members for Chapter 1’s where a support character may struggle (e.g. Temenos gets Crick)
    -Some characters cannot beat the game entirely alone like in the original
    -The extra jobs are a bit underwhelming compared to the ones in the original
    -Gathering the travelers is more difficult this time
    -The job classes being applied to multiple party members can make some bosses far to easy to cheese
    -The job shrines aren’t consistent in where they are scattered (some within a town, others out in the wild)

    • @vivianfoxthief
      @vivianfoxthief Před rokem +9

      Who would win: One powerful Knight who has been trained under order and is retired and can take the world on,
      or
      .
      .
      .
      One cute merchant.

    • @whitevii1533
      @whitevii1533 Před 11 měsíci +2

      "Gathering the travelers is more difficult this time" okay so I'm not just going crazy

    • @Kranitoko
      @Kranitoko Před 4 měsíci

      "overarching plot"
      I'm like... 2 chapters into everybody's stories right now, and I cannot see any overarching story??

  • @jgrif7891
    @jgrif7891 Před rokem +65

    I've played both, and I can say that if you haven't yet played the first one, just play Octopath 2. Octopath 2 is an improvement over it's predecessor in every way I can think of. If you REALLY love Octopath 2 and if you are still jonesing for more content like it, then play the first one.

    • @khanhnhi5105
      @khanhnhi5105 Před rokem +3

      I agree. Especially due to some job classes having different skills with some having little changes (merchant) to those that have had major revamps (scholar). Some may find more enjoyments with experimenting with one or the other

    • @guerrillagorilla6537
      @guerrillagorilla6537 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Don’t get me wrong it’s great, I’ve nearly put 100 hours into it it, but it isn’t an improvement in every way. The combat is far easier, and I guess if that’s what you’re looking for that’s an improvement. Personally, I want to die every so often to keep things interesting.

    • @shadestrider1033
      @shadestrider1033 Před 8 měsíci +4

      …Not every single way. Some decisions are double edged swords.
      Like being able to make 3 characters a single class, such as having 3 merchants or thieves, can make some boss fights too easy to cheese in the late game, and it kinda removes that decision making process when you have to smartly decide which characters will take which role.
      The game is also really hostile towards runs with single characters. In the original, you could pretty much get across the whole map even with single characters, though some areas are blocked because they are a part of the story of another character. Still, getting appropriate gear was still doable. This game locks way too many things behind certain characters, making single character runs restricted.
      The combat is also easier because the skills you can get early on, like Boost Start and Full Power, are broken.
      I love Octopath Traveler II, but I’m not gonna pretend that it does “everything” better than I. And I recommend playing I, though it’s not required for playing II.

    • @jgrif7891
      @jgrif7891 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@shadestrider1033 I really feel like the overwhelming majority of people don't care about single character runs. Also, you don't get the broken stuff for free. You have to find the licenses and grind your characters up. And don't act like warmaster Hannit didn't trivialize 95% of encounters in the first game. Whether you break it with one character or 4, neither of these games are known for difficulty, nor should they have to be.

    • @shadestrider1033
      @shadestrider1033 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@jgrif7891 At least Warmaster H’aanit was late game. Boost Start and Full Power are Earlier game, you can really easily get the Inventor up early game, and then he gives those skills to “everyone”, meaning everyone is busted from the get go.
      Furthermore, just because you didn’t do it doesn’t mean that the option being there is irrelevant. Even if only 5 percent of players do single character runs, it is still an element of the game. This reeks of an argument defending a Pokémon game for removing content because “not a lot of people did it anyway”, which is a terrible argument.
      I do appreciate having to earn additional licenses, but my point about it still stands.

  • @MohdAmirulHafiz
    @MohdAmirulHafiz Před 7 měsíci +12

    Start with 1. Because 2 will exceed your expectations after playing 1

    • @joapaisa
      @joapaisa Před 3 měsíci

      Jugué a ambos y confirmo, empecé con el 2 y luego fui por el 1, la verdad se extraña muchas mecanicas que tiene el 2, más allá de que sea "fácil", se extraña realmente porque hacen más dinámicas las peleas.

    • @mikokun7714
      @mikokun7714 Před 15 dny

      How did you respond to an english comment in Spanish, even google translate be like naniiii????? 😂😂​@@joapaisa

    • @joapaisa
      @joapaisa Před 14 dny +2

      @@mikokun7714 because I like and I Can 🤷‍♀️

  • @AraumC
    @AraumC Před měsícem +3

    If you start with 2, you can’t really go back to 1 unless you REALLY loved 2 and just want more. If you’re willing to put more time into it, if you’re a big JRPG fan, start with 1.

  • @aahen5303
    @aahen5303 Před 4 měsíci

    This was very helpful, thank you!

  • @Shyguymask
    @Shyguymask Před rokem +13

    My only disappointment with Octopath 2 is that it's a lot easier than the original overall. But I can't really blame the game itself for it because of all the complaints of supposed """grinding""" the first game got by bad players who can't handle a challenge and learning a game's mechanics.

    • @ZeShado
      @ZeShado  Před rokem +6

      I thought I was crazy in thinking that grinding wasn't an issue in the original but I'm glad to know it wasn't just me lol

  • @calyxatlas
    @calyxatlas Před rokem +4

    I got 2 first because both games were full price and I assume 1 will go on sale sooner 😅 Thanks for the info! I'm loving 2 so far but eventually want 1 since I enjoy solo-running these kinds of games

  • @Tuinuiski
    @Tuinuiski Před 2 měsíci +4

    I wanted to start with OT2 but accidentally bought OT1 because I was careless when buying online and selected the wrong game 😅 No regret though, really enjoying it. I will no doubt buy OT2 too!

    • @marinadavies1917
      @marinadavies1917 Před 13 dny +2

      youll thank yourself, the second game has so much more that if you played it first and then the first one youd miss so much

  • @enerjak3335
    @enerjak3335 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this. I was just debating on which one I should buy with my next paycheck.

  • @kindredzpirit6046
    @kindredzpirit6046 Před rokem +6

    Definitely 1 if you're an RPG fan. 2 is a better start for a wider demographic because is more accessible in dificulty, has easier and faster grinding, and improves in a lot of things that were disliked from 1 for some of those people.

  • @travisometimes3126
    @travisometimes3126 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I appreciate this video so much and after listening I’m gonna purchase OCT2 I’ve played 1 twice but stop by chapter 3 each time

  • @NightaYuu
    @NightaYuu Před rokem +2

    I am currently completing the Ch3s in Octopath II, so I am far from finished. It is so enjoyable and I would recommend it over the first one for sure. Pretty sad to say, in my Switch friends list I saw many people starting the first game and maybe quitting before reaching the mid game, according to the play time. One thing I miss from Octopath I, however : the game felt more like a ,,travel'', a little journey. I adore Agneas story for that reason, the other stories are pretty grand in contrast. In the first one, it felt like a huge breath of fresh air compared to all of the RPGs with epic tales. Tressa, Alfyn, and Ophilia start out their travels for the reason of doing (mostly) exactly that - traveling. It is very nice to have something lighthearted, yet not boring.

  • @pvfpinto
    @pvfpinto Před 10 měsíci +3

    Started with the 2, and the game is amazing. Will see if going to the 1st. Until now the game isn’t hard and I like difficult games. Great video

  • @XtianApi
    @XtianApi Před měsícem +1

    I've always wanted to play octopath, I played the first demo, enjoyed it, but never bought the game now I have the second game and I'm diving in

  • @yurolowell6795
    @yurolowell6795 Před rokem +6

    Great video overall, you made a lot of good points. I'm about to finish the game myself, so here's my two cents : While I do agree the replayability of Octo II is limited and restricted due to many segments necessitating certain path actions, I do believe it's a bad thing leading to a very good one. The first game, while it introduced path actions, had some of them being quite useless or at least, they felt underused, sometimes redundant (looking at you H'aanit). Let's be honest: Steal and Scrutinize were just incredibly more valuable because of how they made you feel like you cheated the system to gain some really good stuff, and the rest wasn't really that worth it in comparison. As a result, despite the variety of path actions, most players ended up using the same few over and over. Octo II making a lot more path actions necessary to access stories and side quests gives these actions a lot more value, and considering who to take with me when going to the unknown has felt much more enjoyable this time around, as there was no saying who would be useful. I guess you could say Octo II trade some of its replayability for a much better first time experience, which is something I respect.

    • @ZeShado
      @ZeShado  Před rokem +2

      I can definitely agree with that! Giving some of the path actions more of a purpose is really good and I can equally respect that.

  • @stanacc6999
    @stanacc6999 Před rokem +2

    Curious to hear your take on which moments in OT1 eclipsed the stories in OT2

    • @ZeShado
      @ZeShado  Před rokem +5

      Without going into spoiler territory, I would say Olberic’s story built up to chapter 3 is some of the best Octopath has to offer in terms of storytelling. I also really enjoyed Primrose’s and Therion’s stories a lot. That being said, I really do enjoy a fair amount OT2’s stories, especially Osvald’s and Castti’s. Also special shout-out to Alfyn and his Chapter 3.

  • @AleksandarIvanov69
    @AleksandarIvanov69 Před rokem +2

    I didn't think I would like the game (I am not an OT1 player) when I tried the demo on a whim.
    50hrs in I love it so much and I am not even half way done 😊

  • @FCXmaster
    @FCXmaster Před 2 měsíci

    I played both and loved them. This series deserves more love. I really want them to make a third one.

  • @vivianfoxthief
    @vivianfoxthief Před rokem +1

    I have played both I can say story and character wise I like first 1 better (tressa best girl) but when it comes to features and game play wise I can say octopath 2 is something you should pick.
    (Btw this how I see it I have not seen the full video at the time am posting this comment)

  • @dothesick
    @dothesick Před 2 měsíci +1

    I played half of Octopath 1 and lost interest. Then I picked up Octopath 2 and couldn’t put it down. I think it’s the story and the improvements in gameplay and areas to discover and voice acting.

  • @Kwizii
    @Kwizii Před 3 dny

    Hello, I dislike random encounters but tolerated them through octopath traveler because the rest of the game was brilliant in every way. I want to buy Octopath II but if it gets too grindy, it might kill the magic for me (especially since my play time is limited, so if I feel that I'm just beating enemies I will get frustrated). Should I get Octopath II?

  • @anonmisfit
    @anonmisfit Před 23 dny

    from what uve presented, HAVING to have the thief in op1 is by far the greatest downside to op1 / rping

  • @demosthenes995
    @demosthenes995 Před rokem +2

    Did you draw the thumbnail art yourself?

    • @ZeShado
      @ZeShado  Před rokem +2

      Nope, it’s part of the official countdown art. You can find it either on the twitter or wiki!

  • @johnnny9
    @johnnny9 Před 5 měsíci

    i played Octopath 1 for 10 hrs and got bored af i thought the game would get better or good within that time frame but nope, i really did not care for the story telling for some characters and deleted it but the Octopath 2 fast forward interactions instead of skipping and fast battle is pretty sweet

  • @rossjones8656
    @rossjones8656 Před měsícem

    Hey, i suddenly saw the octopath traveler is unavailable in the e-shop.

    • @jesusalonso2179
      @jesusalonso2179 Před 24 dny

      It was a gliched. Nintendo placed the gamr developer under "nintendo" and not "square enix"

  • @cesara.segoviaaguirre6168
    @cesara.segoviaaguirre6168 Před měsícem

    1st so you don't miss the QoL additions of the second.

  • @RaidenKaiser
    @RaidenKaiser Před 11 měsíci

    I feel like some of the "flaws" people complain about with octo 1 are part of its strengths lol. I think octo2 goes too far showing players how to unlock the true ending i think giving dialogue hints would of been alot better than showing a marker where to start the final part of the story.

  • @diablioscortes862
    @diablioscortes862 Před rokem +3

    i bought game 1 two weeks ago during a sale and gave up within 3 hours. For a JRPG game I thought the story was really lacklustre and I didn't like any of the characters I'd unlocked. I googled the rest of the characters and none of their backstories appealed to me. The combat was decent but not enough to keep me going with the boring stories. Fast-forward two weeks, I decided to buy game 2 on a whim. And over 10 hours later I can say I love it. The story is such a massive improvement and I felt that by the end of chapter 1, everyone's motives for travelling and their enemies were firmly established. The new latent ability and talents like Hikari's learned skill are really fun to play with, making the combat much more interesting than the previous one which sometimes felt like a Persona clone. Overall, I'm glad I gave game 2 a try and I don't think I would be going back to game 1 even after completing 2.

    • @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
      @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Před rokem

      The first game was almost as good as the second. The story definitely didn't improve

    • @marky6456
      @marky6456 Před rokem +1

      @@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Now that's a straight up lie lol

    • @danebirbhaha7520
      @danebirbhaha7520 Před rokem

      ​@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord let's be fr

    • @ZeShado
      @ZeShado  Před rokem +1

      The story hooks in the new entry are really good at keeping people interested for sure!

    • @Shyguymask
      @Shyguymask Před rokem +1

      Persona clone?... how in the world lol, especially since you're implying 2's combat is so different from 1's which isn't the case at all? Octo 2 has the latent abilities and that's it, it's pretty much the exact same combat mechanics.

  • @chunli1758
    @chunli1758 Před rokem +1

    Wow, I thought this was gonna be a great server, but I guess I was wrong. This server loves to just antagonize and attack people for opinions. Like I can’t talk about raiding other servers without mentioning the ban or just downright giving me negative opinions