Ben would turn into a vitrolite with willpower over Mark, Brutality over Thragg, Facial hair more Chad Than Nolan, the overall look of Debbie and a slipper in his hand. Ben will troll him so hard he will give Mark the legendary three shoe beating while looking like his mother in a mustache.
@@Taz-ey4jl woke how you brain dead goober I make a joke and I'm woke? Go back to touching yourself to snecko and his cuties watch along at that red pill pedo party they got lmao joke of a human being
@@fryguy9704unless it's Goku black, he's just killing the mortal on sight. Way to fast for regular ben to scan. Now normal Goku considering he doesn't instantly kill he would want Ben to scan him
Its just flouting in the corner doing its thing edit: wait i just realize something, sense all aliens are the tipppty top of their species, that means alien X is the top of the celestialsapiens hence why even as a grown up alien X only has three personaltys, rage, love, and common sense, these three are basiacly the core of all celestialsapiens i guess and whilst the rest are peoducing many many more personality's alien X only got three and their the core of it
@@wally99szarek still would beat them. Ben 10 might have a cooldown but if he uses 4 arms or XLR8 would be ggs. They would never be able to see XLR8 nor beat 4 arms in terms of strength and durability so... also not to mention the shock rock upgrade/fusion....
Not only does it make Ben become the strongest version of that alien, but he can do ultimate forms, which is the process of putting the genetics of the alien in a simulation of over a thousand years of a war, so yeah Ben solos
Against an older Mark who has personally been through thousands of years of saving the galaxy, Viltrumite Ben might struggle, though as with Ben Vs Goku, Ben wins as soon as he picks one of his win buttons (Celestial/Chronosapians)
I love how he didn't mention Aang at all, poor boy gets silenced immediately (Edit) I started a war in the comments, I knew this would happen eventually but not this quickly
Any non-elemental alien from Ben jumps him, Mark blitzes him, and Danny can literally just go intangible and nope all attacks... Aang would only have a chance at any of them with bloodbending, but considering that only Amon and his family were the only bloodbenders that could control more than one people at a time... Yeah.
@gamemeister2905 yall under estimate how strong aang is. These kids are out running and catching lightning which is 1/3 the speed of light. Korra reacting and catching pure energy which is light speed. This is while fighting. I realize alien x folds everyone and is broke but aang lasts a lot longer than people give him credit for.
@@marchaelbeard5977 the Ultimatrix was actually the device that turned the user into an exact copy of an alien because of glitches. The Official Omnitrix however turns Ben into the peak physical of what the alien could be if he was born that alien.
@@CrystalCrafter13 actually the ultimatrix evolved the user into an evolved form of the alien if under extreme conditions. The original made the him an current version of the species with peak abilities yes but the ultimatrix improved it. Also could transform without touching which the best version of 10000 added to his improved duel version. Not saying the original is bad but ultimatrix had it's own benefits aside from not being able to filter.
People never seem to remember that when an alien is scanned into the Omnitrix Ben turns into the *perfect physical specimen* of that species. Like superman is just a normal guy from krypton but if Ben scanned him he would clap superman because it would be the equivalent to a normal guy boxing with Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson. Not to mention Ben doesent even need to scan the dude from invincible because he can just turn into alien x and literally just think about winning the fight and he would
@elmine7707 aliens from the omnitrix can't really change Ben's personality, turning into a Viltrumite might make him slightly more arrogant or narcissistic but it wouldn't change who he is. Brainstorm makes Ben more arrogant but he still uses him
@elmine7707 none of his aliens are banned. Those "banned aliens" lists you see are fan made and not real. There are some aliens Ben can't use, but that's because he just isn't old enough and doesn't have Master control. Azmuth said he would grant Ben master control when he turns 18. The omnitrix has millions of aliens stored in it, but the default settings only let him turn into a small portion of those aliens
Not only that, but Ben has an alien that can imitate AND counter every one of their abilities. As soon as I saw Ben I knew it was lights out for all the others.
@@sptflcrw8583 No he does not. I know Superman is busted, I've got a quote from the show for you, regarding Alien X. "They could just blink and we'd be gone."
@@claytongee6299 just putting it out there keeping in mind how ridiculous everything in DC Comics gets and the insane power levels of somethings. There are things in DC that can wipe the floor with Alien X. Now here's the thing. At one point Flash is outrunning the Black Flash, he outruns the concept of death it's self by running so far into the future that there is nothing left to die, death no longer exists. The ONLY thing in that future is Superman. Superman in one universe canonically outlives everything including death it's self. Im not saying he WOULD beat Alien X but he has some insane feats that would give him a very real shot at winning.
@@sptflcrw8583 right until his omnitrix scans superman and ben becomes the ultimate kryptonian which is probably just instant superman prime/one million/superboy prime, like seriously ben is probably one of if not the most OP characters of all time
Alien x that lost to heat blast . Yeah I’m not hearing any alien x shi .. it’s also why classic didn’t include him in the explanation cuz one time he is op another he a scrub make it make sense
Even then thats not wining Is just slowly losing. Ben don't use ghost freak anymore, but he does have other aliens that become untangible and do some other wonkie things like control time. And we are always skiping the X part because that Is just being silly.
@@nicolasreinaldet732 he does have and use ghostfreak again in omniverse which is the same continuity, in omniverse it has green shackles that lock the dna from forming conciousness and ben uses it multiple times after this
@@hype5456Aang definitely shouldn't be here because he's not a teen. Also, the Ben 10 role should be ONLY OG, 10yr old Ben from the original series without scanning.
I hate how accurate this is, we see this when 4 arms fight the queen of that race, females are significantly stronger then the men and she had more combat experience but Ben beat her with 4 arms in like 2 minutes. She had a home field advantage using the same poweres but better and Ben still won, you do that with a viltramite and mark just gets turned to dust. You could take 1000 year old mark when he is waaaaaaay stronger and he still would get neg diffed by Ben using viltramites form
@@nathengriffiths-holland7038it depends, because while Ben does turn into the peak of whatever species he turns into, the transformation is still the equivalent of Ben's age for that species, so for example, if Ben was 5 years old and transformed into an alien, he would be a 5 year old version of that alien at it's peak. It could be debated that since Viltrimites are supposed to get stronger the older they are, an older Mark could overcome the strength difference between Ben's transformation, but that all depends on how old Mark is and how young Ben is.
@@romanfischer7307true, but he’s still managed to overpower what should be stronger versions of the species he turns into, such as the Galactic Gladiator as Alien X or the Tetramand Princess as Four Arms. There’s also the fact that Ben has time manipulating Aliens, so he could just age down a viltrumite and essentially depower them
Putting Ben on here was complete overkill. He just has so much variety and power compared to the others, even without the truly OP aliens like Alien X, Clockwork, and Atomix.
@@lightningboltct4156a that was an entire different continuity B that Ben wasn’t in the right mind set C the Ben who was shown was omniverse Ben who ran the fade with a gladiator celestial Saipan and won as alien X D omniverse Ben ran multiple fades with other villains and won vilgax and Kevin 11 multiple times at ten and beat them both solo with master control he then beat vilgax at 16 with diamond head and then he went and solo’s ultimate Kevin with just one alien and that Kevin had the same powers and much more
@@flameshu2they need to stop using Post Time Skips Ben, and only OG, 10yr old Ben from the original show, no scanning. Them it would be a more fair flight
Ben turning into a Viltrumite is the highest likelihood in this scenario. And then if we put UA Ben, just imagine how a hyper evolved Viltrumite might be.
Just before Ben slaughters him, he'd be like "Bro you good? Last time that happened to me, my cousin was possessed by an alien overlord and he was gonna make her jump off a building"
I mean, it works by putting the dna sample through 1000 years of simulated war, right? And Viltrumites are already a warlike species. I could kinda see it as they’re already the “ultimate” version.
@@conwool2609 It is a little more complicated than that. It basically puts the species through the hardest environment possible for 1000 years to simulate evolution.
Yeah, it's not that Ben is stupid, it's just that he doesn't really try. Even Gwen thinks this, saying that Ben just needs to apply himself, which Ben says his teachers also say
Not going to lie, I really like kicken hawk from a design and concept perspective, "what if we take a joke character, and make a threatening version of them?" Also the whole top version of the species is really cool
@@sbusisomanqele4318 depends how liberal you are with flavour, spider monkey could be a thru kreen with the web ability, rooks species, tabaxi. Swampfire, that's just a druid, maybe a reborn circle of wildfire,
I don’t think it’s unfair. It’s connected all the way through his DNA. It’s a cop out if they’re like “he can’t reach his watch.” When he’s fighting gods or whatever
Yeah. They immediately took out all the tension by making Ben so powerful. Young Ben had a pre pre alpha version of the omnitrix so it was sort of balanced. Now, he's an unkillable god. It's only a matter of time before they make Ben beat old age and just make him immortal
KingKeanu here's the thing tho even without the fail safe he's still the most powerful being in the universe, like how Master Control would give him the edge, he doesn't really need it
Also I'm pretty sure Ben has the most experience compared to the other 2. Like Sure Mark is a Trained Viltramite, but Ben is so dangerous, the only way Vilgax beat him was threatening his friends.
Imagine being mark and an edgy kid with a bulky ass watch just scans your DNA and you see him transform into your own species and then getting your ass whooped would be wild💀
he wouldn't be as strong given he would be very young, and viltrumites grow through aging and combat, so 500+ year old mark beats bens at most 2 decades old peak viltrumite.
@thebrickinthewall9838 your forgetting that the watch has a failsafe which prevents Ben from dying so regardless of how fast is your character is, they have to be able to counter or destroy the omnitrix to be able to do anything against Ben
@@constant1876 Sozin was the firelord that started the war, so it makes sense to use him there as the one who first tried to hunt the Avatar. Ozai is the current firelord and is just continuing Sozin's legacy.
It's Aang. The only one who can reasonably even touch Danny would be Ben with specific aliens, so Danny is surviving unless Ben targets him first. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure everyone else just tanks whatever Aang can dish out. Even with Avatar State, it'll be rough for him.
Echo Echo one shots Mark, Ben’s dealt with Ectonurites like Z’skayr & Ben has plenty of aliens that can control the elements far better than Aang has even in Avatar state.
Viltramites aren't sensitive to high frequencies; they're sensitive to a certain frequency. Finding it would be next to impossible given there are infinite frequencies to go through. But yea, Ben still stomps with many different aliens. Also mark is losing to Danny before ben.
@Ace2014Ace The solution, make 1 million echo echos and blast them at different frequencies till one of them works, echo echo can duplicate after all and act independently
It’s funny cause people say that Mark would speed blitz Ben before he can scan him but people don’t realize that the watch would automatically transform him to keep him alive and to counter.
@@hvyarms4496 if ben dies, the omnitrtix recreates a body with any of the dna in the watch and he continues to live, and then hed realise to just use alien x, ben cant lose this fight no matter what, its just a dumb match up
@@hvyarms4496what about the beat shotty transformation, aka The Worst? he is entirely immune to physical damage iirc, so he could just sit there and let everyone else kill each other
Mark definitely beats Aang but if this is Danny during his new comic book Mark is definitely faster but the roles have been reversed on who's more powerful
@@Keith_Norman I haven't read the comic but he wouldn't need it, how is Mark supposed to damage Danny? Plus, Danny can take over people's minds which I don't see why it wouldn't work on Mark.
@@reuvencooper8170 yeah but the problem is what is he supposed to do after that I mean he could potentially knock him out but yeah in the comic mark would die to Danny
Not to mention that when Ben transforms into any alien the Omnitrix has a “instinct emulation” feature that gives ben the exact knowledge on the powers he has in that form and how to use it at the optimal level. Meaning he’ll be the peak of that species in comparison to his age and know how to fight in the best way possible with it. Its done for the other 3.
I'm wondering when this came into play? I fell off the show not far into Ultimate Alien but I remember a big thing in the original show is Ben struggling with using his powers effectively. Hell, one of the coolest episodes is the one where he trains with the Diamondhead bounty hunter guy to fight better with Diamondhead.
@ProtocolAbyss I thought it was only added in Alien Force. Because, as seen with Cannonbolt and Ditto's introductions, he clearly didn't have it in the original series
@@underdrow5572 its in a minor form in the first series. It basically tells him how to generally move, speak and breath amongst other basic necessities. It only gives him knowledge of powers in alien force after reconfiguration.
Ben has literally beaten ghosts and elementalists before And yeah scan mark would make a peak Viltrumite as well as give him the buff mark gets from his human side.
@@aragaminightmare9527would it work because Danny is a half ghost? Because its been awhile since i watched Ben10(og one.not the reboot) and Danny Phantom
peak viltrumite at his age, which would get easily beaten by 500+ year old mark. ben's been lucky that most of his aliens age many times faster than humans, I'm pretty sure XLR8's race only lives for a few weeks.
@@AM90715 The Omnitrix is programmed to ignore hybrids and mutants when searching for new DNA. Though it can extract a pure sample from whatever species a hybrid is made up of, so he would get a pure viltrumite out of Mark, which would actually put him at a disadvantage since being part human gives Mark's body the ability to produce adrenaline, which viltrumites lack. This isn't a design limitation, it's an artificial one placed by its creator, that could theoretically be disabled if Ben wanted to, he'd just have to become one of his intelligence based aliens and try and hack it. Any DNA sample ever could be used by the Omnitrix, all it really does is produce a result from given DNA the same way cloning would, and port the user's mind into it. Now real explanation has ever been given as to _why_ this limitation is there, but I think it's straightforward. Hybrids are redundant, and combining races together like that would be ethically dubious from a scientist's perspective. And mutants, by virtue of being unique individual beings, are not an entire species, if they develop into their own species after a few thousand years, then they'll fit Azmuth's sampling criteria then. There is a third limitation that we actually see get explored: the alien has to be sapient, it can't be an animal on the same tier as a pig or slug or shark. A villain in Omniverse made an Omnitrix knockoff without this limitation, and it resulted in its human test user being driven insane and having his DNA corrupted, his mind literally just could not fit inside the brain he was being forced into. Fun Fact: Azmuth tried to get at least two samples per planet given this criteria, if possible, and with Earth he sampled humans, _and dolphins._ Ben can canonically transform into a dolphin, the DNA sample is literally already there.
The funny thing is Ben doesn't even have to scan Mark to win or use Alien X. Ben has so many diverse aliens that he can change into mid fight that can overwhelm Mark.
Ben turning into a vultrumite to beat Mark is just a savage burn.
He can't lol Mark isn't an alien
Ben would turn into a vitrolite with willpower over Mark, Brutality over Thragg, Facial hair more Chad Than Nolan, the overall look of Debbie and a slipper in his hand. Ben will troll him so hard he will give Mark the legendary three shoe beating while looking like his mother in a mustache.
@@leonhart6957are you braindead???
@@leonhart6957 But... He is. Half-alien, but still.
@@leonhart6957wdym he not an alien he's 100% alien lol
"I don't make these match-ups unfair, you do!" - ClassicmanD probably
He actually has said that
It's the truth.
@@GDSK09 I know I was attempting comedy
He said it word for word bar for bar
He said that 😊
Even without access to Alien X, or the ability to scan invincible, Ben still wins. All he needs is a simple Echo... Echo
*Divide and Conquer*
Ultimate Echo Echo
@@somisimonsexactly, viltrumites are vulnerable to sounds
SONIC DOOOOOOOM!!!!@@somisimons
It's Echo (echo)
I like how Ben becomes the peak of that race he became then makes up a new name that probably becomes that aliens races as a slur
Ok wokie
@@Taz-ey4jl woke how you brain dead goober I make a joke and I'm woke? Go back to touching yourself to snecko and his cuties watch along at that red pill pedo party they got lmao joke of a human being
No no hold on, Hecc Snek finds this idea hilarious
@@Taz-ey4jlwut?
@@Taz-ey4jl deranged
Ben is the western Goku. Your character is strong, but can it beat Ben?
You're not wrong
Bro can just scan goku and become unstoppable
@@fryguy9704unless it's Goku black, he's just killing the mortal on sight. Way to fast for regular ben to scan. Now normal Goku considering he doesn't instantly kill he would want Ben to scan him
@@fryguy9704not really since god ki isn’t a saiyan thing, so Ben wouldn’t get it if he turned into the apex of a saiyan.
He would get the ssj forms
I love this comment so much. 😂🔥
Respect to him for not taking the easy route and mentioning the dark, star covered, omnipotent being in the room
Yeh
Its just flouting in the corner doing its thing edit: wait i just realize something, sense all aliens are the tipppty top of their species, that means alien X is the top of the celestialsapiens hence why even as a grown up alien X only has three personaltys, rage, love, and common sense, these three are basiacly the core of all celestialsapiens i guess and whilst the rest are peoducing many many more personality's alien X only got three and their the core of it
They should only choose 10 year old ben in these match ups😂otherwise its a slaughter most of the time.
@@orbboom6119facts 10 year old ben was weak af. All you gotta do is wait 15 minutes and he turns back.
@@wally99szarek still would beat them. Ben 10 might have a cooldown but if he uses 4 arms or XLR8 would be ggs. They would never be able to see XLR8 nor beat 4 arms in terms of strength and durability so... also not to mention the shock rock upgrade/fusion....
Not only does it make Ben become the strongest version of that alien, but he can do ultimate forms, which is the process of putting the genetics of the alien in a simulation of over a thousand years of a war, so yeah Ben solos
Against an older Mark who has personally been through thousands of years of saving the galaxy, Viltrumite Ben might struggle, though as with Ben Vs Goku, Ben wins as soon as he picks one of his win buttons (Celestial/Chronosapians)
The photo they use doesn't have the ultimatrix, so it wouldn't work in this scenario.
That’s using the ultimatrix, which he effectively doesn’t have anymore, but he has more aliens
We're going off of the last time we saw Ben, so no ultrimatrix, and he has full control of Alien X
Given he has the ultimatrix
I love how he didn't mention Aang at all, poor boy gets silenced immediately
(Edit)
I started a war in the comments, I knew this would happen eventually but not this quickly
Any non-elemental alien from Ben jumps him, Mark blitzes him, and Danny can literally just go intangible and nope all attacks...
Aang would only have a chance at any of them with bloodbending, but considering that only Amon and his family were the only bloodbenders that could control more than one people at a time... Yeah.
Who chooses these list 😂
@@omnibeta1876 the first blood bender we see hamma can blood bend two people at once as she did with sokka and aang.
Yeah Aang is powerful in universe but outside his universe? He's really not all that strong compared to a lot of anime or anime inspired characters.
@gamemeister2905 yall under estimate how strong aang is. These kids are out running and catching lightning which is 1/3 the speed of light. Korra reacting and catching pure energy which is light speed. This is while fighting. I realize alien x folds everyone and is broke but aang lasts a lot longer than people give him credit for.
To clarify, Ben turning into a vultrimite is him just wanting to flex. It's not even close to his best/easiest win condition
the letter X just floating around in omnipotence:
@alejandromarte9852 I means it's overkill. Echo echo hard counters.
@@shadowwalker118 Ehhhh I'd say Ultimate Echo Echo is needed (which he no longer has access to). But ofc there's Ghost Freak and Big Chill.
@@Your7T7 we've seen sound base weapons hurt vultrimites. Not much they can do against an infinity multiplying sound wall.
@@shadowwalker118 Ultimate Echo Echo is really just a monster considering how he almost kills Ultimate Kevin before he was stopped.
It’s one thing to include Ben in these matchups, it’s another to give him _another alien to use against everyone._
I mean the omni trix has a history of copying aliens it has not recorded in its records
Still find it crazy ben is basically semi immortal...
@@marchaelbeard5977 the Ultimatrix was actually the device that turned the user into an exact copy of an alien because of glitches. The Official Omnitrix however turns Ben into the peak physical of what the alien could be if he was born that alien.
@@CrystalCrafter13 actually the ultimatrix evolved the user into an evolved form of the alien if under extreme conditions. The original made the him an current version of the species with peak abilities yes but the ultimatrix improved it. Also could transform without touching which the best version of 10000 added to his improved duel version. Not saying the original is bad but ultimatrix had it's own benefits aside from not being able to filter.
@@marchaelbeard5977I think you're confusing the ultimate forms with the default forms of the aliens.
People never seem to remember that when an alien is scanned into the Omnitrix Ben turns into the *perfect physical specimen* of that species. Like superman is just a normal guy from krypton but if Ben scanned him he would clap superman because it would be the equivalent to a normal guy boxing with Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson.
Not to mention Ben doesent even need to scan the dude from invincible because he can just turn into alien x and literally just think about winning the fight and he would
I love the idea of somebody saying "the dude from Invincible" instead of just "Invincible"
@@sansgamingwastaken inv credits roll
Ben: turns into alien x and erases them from existence.
Also ben: it was Tuesday.
That's UAF Ben,he can't control Alien X
@@adamdimitri2562I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be every version of main line Ben but they just used UAF because that’s the Ben look they prefer
@@Fiendmaster101and I'm with them on that. OV Ben doesn't look bad, but i prefer UAF Ben design
If he becomes a Viltrumite, he'd instantly get a mustache, call himself "BASHSTACH" and go to town on these guys.
And he named the alien the main man Lobo
BASHSTACH would end up being one of those aliens he doesn't use because of the mentality it imposes 💯
@elmine7707 aliens from the omnitrix can't really change Ben's personality, turning into a Viltrumite might make him slightly more arrogant or narcissistic but it wouldn't change who he is. Brainstorm makes Ben more arrogant but he still uses him
@@christophersantos9488 no to well versed in B10 lore, but I thought there was some aliens he doesn't/can't/are banned? Besides Alien X
@elmine7707 none of his aliens are banned. Those "banned aliens" lists you see are fan made and not real. There are some aliens Ben can't use, but that's because he just isn't old enough and doesn't have Master control. Azmuth said he would grant Ben master control when he turns 18. The omnitrix has millions of aliens stored in it, but the default settings only let him turn into a small portion of those aliens
Who decided it was a good idea to put BENJAMIN KIRBY TENNYSON in the is fight?!
Somebody who definitely has it out for the other 3
Is his middle name actually Kirby or is that just a reference to the nature of the Omnitrix?
@@dejinnthedjinn5311that's his middle name
@@dejinnthedjinn5311it’s actually Kirby idk why but his parents chose that name
@@dejinnthedjinn5311that's actually his Canon name lol
As you see my boy Benjamin doesn't even need Alien X to cook
I mean he could kill invinible with Ultimate echo echo
Not only that, but Ben has an alien that can imitate AND counter every one of their abilities. As soon as I saw Ben I knew it was lights out for all the others.
Ya, this just turns into a Ben 10 comment section every time this happens 😂
@@hvyarms4496 pretty much. The Omitrix is hax with its scanning and ability to turn every transformation into the peak of the species.
I saw Ben 10 and thought “why the fuck is he here? Might as well put Superman on the damn list.”
Ben vs. Superman might be a more even fight now that I think about it.
@@johnnygyro2295superman stomps Ben so badly it isn't even funny.
@@sptflcrw8583 No he does not. I know Superman is busted, I've got a quote from the show for you, regarding Alien X.
"They could just blink and we'd be gone."
@@claytongee6299 just putting it out there keeping in mind how ridiculous everything in DC Comics gets and the insane power levels of somethings. There are things in DC that can wipe the floor with Alien X.
Now here's the thing.
At one point Flash is outrunning the Black Flash, he outruns the concept of death it's self by running so far into the future that there is nothing left to die, death no longer exists.
The ONLY thing in that future is Superman.
Superman in one universe canonically outlives everything including death it's self.
Im not saying he WOULD beat Alien X but he has some insane feats that would give him a very real shot at winning.
@@sptflcrw8583 right until his omnitrix scans superman and ben becomes the ultimate kryptonian which is probably just instant superman prime/one million/superboy prime, like seriously ben is probably one of if not the most OP characters of all time
Heck Ben could just turn into Alien X and the fight would be over before it even started
Alien x that lost to heat blast . Yeah I’m not hearing any alien x shi .. it’s also why classic didn’t include him in the explanation cuz one time he is op another he a scrub make it make sense
@@Salami-z Tbf, that's reboot Alien X I think you're talking about. That is a completely different continuity.
@@Salami-z cuz that's the reboot timeline where they screwed up most things about Ben 10.
@@diddledude5422 still the franchise same way there is diff Ben shows and stuff so that’s makes no sense
@@twinklestarproductions so??
Poor Aang he never stood a chance here
Why’s he even on the list? He’s the last person who would willingly fight, let alone kill anyone
I would say that no one be able to punch Danny if he becomes ghost but then we remember Ghostfreak is a thing
Even then thats not wining Is just slowly losing.
Ben don't use ghost freak anymore, but he does have other aliens that become untangible and do some other wonkie things like control time.
And we are always skiping the X part because that Is just being silly.
@@nicolasreinaldet732 he does have and use ghostfreak again in omniverse which is the same continuity, in omniverse it has green shackles that lock the dna from forming conciousness and ben uses it multiple times after this
@@jelousjake3500I didn't know that's what the shackles were, that's cool
This is just the biggest slaughter for no real reason. Yall gotta keep Ben out of these fights, it will not work.
The reasons he's here is because there' teens I don't think most care about the power difference until required
@@hype5456Aang definitely shouldn't be here because he's not a teen. Also, the Ben 10 role should be ONLY OG, 10yr old Ben from the original series without scanning.
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 some of you guys take this shit seriously
@@trelwilliams5003exactly
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702og Ben still scans aliens just less effective
Remember, Ben doesn't turn into aliens, he turns into alien versions of Captain America.
That is actually a really good way of putting it.
Imagine 4 arms with 4 shields
I hate how accurate this is, we see this when 4 arms fight the queen of that race, females are significantly stronger then the men and she had more combat experience but Ben beat her with 4 arms in like 2 minutes. She had a home field advantage using the same poweres but better and Ben still won, you do that with a viltramite and mark just gets turned to dust. You could take 1000 year old mark when he is waaaaaaay stronger and he still would get neg diffed by Ben using viltramites form
@@nathengriffiths-holland7038it depends, because while Ben does turn into the peak of whatever species he turns into, the transformation is still the equivalent of Ben's age for that species, so for example, if Ben was 5 years old and transformed into an alien, he would be a 5 year old version of that alien at it's peak. It could be debated that since Viltrimites are supposed to get stronger the older they are, an older Mark could overcome the strength difference between Ben's transformation, but that all depends on how old Mark is and how young Ben is.
@@romanfischer7307true, but he’s still managed to overpower what should be stronger versions of the species he turns into, such as the Galactic Gladiator as Alien X or the Tetramand Princess as Four Arms.
There’s also the fact that Ben has time manipulating Aliens, so he could just age down a viltrumite and essentially depower them
Ben gone hit em with ," I thought you were stronger"😂
My god Aang just looking on the side lines meditating.
Lmfao 😂😭 I can totally see it
Putting Ben on here was complete overkill. He just has so much variety and power compared to the others, even without the truly OP aliens like Alien X, Clockwork, and Atomix.
Ben lost to heat blast in alien X form with multiple Omnitrix
Only threat he couldn't beat was the decisions of his writers.
@@lightningboltct4156 we don't talk about that one, it's nor considered canon
@@lightningboltct4156a that was an entire different continuity
B that Ben wasn’t in the right mind set
C the Ben who was shown was omniverse Ben who ran the fade with a gladiator celestial Saipan and won as alien X
D omniverse Ben ran multiple fades with other villains and won vilgax and Kevin 11 multiple times at ten and beat them both solo with master control he then beat vilgax at 16 with diamond head and then he went and solo’s ultimate Kevin with just one alien and that Kevin had the same powers and much more
@@lightningboltct4156 that was a defective scan done by using too many conflicting omnitrix's, plus bs writing.
this fight isn’t even fair 💀
Its as fair as most of Ben's fights it's just like in the show at first the fight will appear pretty even then Ben will get serious and end the fight.
@@flameshu2they need to stop using Post Time Skips Ben, and only OG, 10yr old Ben from the original show, no scanning. Them it would be a more fair flight
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702the thing is
10 y/o Ben can also scan aliens, but in a less efficient way
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 it's best not to use Ben in fights because you either Nerf ben into Oblivion or ben wins.
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702classic Ben still has way big and ghostfreak tho
Ben turning into a Viltrumite is the highest likelihood in this scenario. And then if we put UA Ben, just imagine how a hyper evolved Viltrumite might be.
Honestly, all he'd have to do is pull Ultimate Echo Echo.
Danny: Im Going Ghost
GhostFreak: Poor child
Yoooo I'm dead 💀 🤣 😭
His superpower is “guess I’ll die 🤷”
Just before Ben slaughters him, he'd be like "Bro you good? Last time that happened to me, my cousin was possessed by an alien overlord and he was gonna make her jump off a building"
Ben would probably call himself "Invulnerable" just for giggles.
*Looks at the others, then sees Aang
I love Aang, and that entire show, but...my boi would be massacred.
Gets even worse if Ben has the Ultimatrix. Can you imagine the power of an Ultimate Vultrumite?
I mean, it works by putting the dna sample through 1000 years of simulated war, right? And Viltrumites are already a warlike species. I could kinda see it as they’re already the “ultimate” version.
@@conwool2609 It is a little more complicated than that. It basically puts the species through the hardest environment possible for 1000 years to simulate evolution.
Ben turning into a Viltrumite is the equivalent of your opponent playing Shang Tsung, shapeshifting into your character, and proceeding to diff you
Nah, becoming your character but better in every way.
@@yangchenlhamo7537exactly, Shang Tsung gets a damage buff when he morphs into your character 😭
@@edd4131 damage buff?? Ben also gets a skill buff, a speed buff, a looks buff, hell probably also a goddamn d#ck buff.
It’s more like meta knight copy Kirby I’m you but I don’t go into special fall from everything
@@edd4131 Ben also gets a buff in... Everything else. Including skill.
Ben is the embodiment of Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby he destroys all his matchups
Except Hal, lol
@@sptflcrw8583 that was utterly ridiculous
@@njivwathomassilavwe2056 nope, it's correct. Hal stomps Ben and his whole verse.
The Doctor with prep time could arguably beat Ben.
@@sptflcrw8583everyone has debunked that fight Ben solos Hal 😂
Nuclear bomb vs 3 coughing babies
Yup, Ben solos everybody
Even he has master control and full control of alien x (he doesn't even need this)
Ben is about to be the first ever Super Viltrumite in over 1000 years. ~DBZ reference
🥱🥱
And imagine if he still had the Ultramatix
@@muten_chimp_roshi_7976Ben's honesty reaction to this matchup
Respectfully, the others are dope, but there's LITERALLY no touching Ben 😭😭😭
Yeah and no one is touching Danny LITERALLY
You know Ben has ghost freak, right? @wartraumain
And big chill
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@@wartraumainHe has Echo Echo and Ghost freak
Let's not forget how creative Ben actually is, even I'm shocked when his battle Iq starts showing.
Yeah, it's not that Ben is stupid, it's just that he doesn't really try. Even Gwen thinks this, saying that Ben just needs to apply himself, which Ben says his teachers also say
The moment i saw Ben, i knew it was already over for Aang, Danny and Mark
Putting Aang anywhere near this list was cruel asf
They wanna see aang and danny be red puddle
Nah but Aang in avatar state got a chance tho
He almost died after being hit by lightning, that doesnt compare to a viltrumite punch or whatever ben is going to do
im ngl i didnt even know he was here til someone said smth he aint even bring aang up
@@charlielay537Technically, he'd be a green puddle.
Not going to lie, I really like kicken hawk from a design and concept perspective, "what if we take a joke character, and make a threatening version of them?" Also the whole top version of the species is really cool
I rock with a gawd damn chicken and I don't care cause he straight Kickin
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 the party bard talking about the aaracockra monk
@@joelrobinson5457wait
What other aliens could be in dnd in that case?
@@sbusisomanqele4318 depends how liberal you are with flavour, spider monkey could be a thru kreen with the web ability, rooks species, tabaxi. Swampfire, that's just a druid, maybe a reborn circle of wildfire,
It's amazing how creative Ben 10 can get
This made me realize that Ben could theoretically become a sayian
no offense, but how did you just realize this?
lmfao Yuri Lowenthal's characters receive so much plot armor or power
"and if anything goes wrong: Alien X"
-a wise man
Facts!
Waybig
Feedback
Clockwork
Atomix
Gravattack
Other hundreds of thousands of stong aliens: are we joke to you
@@atg0977 literally what I was about to say
When Man of Action added the "prevents death fail-safe" they kinda stopped Ben from truly losing.
Depends on his opponents it would take someone that can counter the aliens and beat alien x
I don’t think it’s unfair. It’s connected all the way through his DNA. It’s a cop out if they’re like “he can’t reach his watch.” When he’s fighting gods or whatever
@@TheRaineyMan "it's not unfair" "it's a cop out" so.... it literally is unfair?
Yeah. They immediately took out all the tension by making Ben so powerful. Young Ben had a pre pre alpha version of the omnitrix so it was sort of balanced. Now, he's an unkillable god. It's only a matter of time before they make Ben beat old age and just make him immortal
KingKeanu here's the thing tho even without the fail safe he's still the most powerful being in the universe, like how Master Control would give him the edge, he doesn't really need it
Also I'm pretty sure Ben has the most experience compared to the other 2. Like Sure Mark is a Trained Viltramite, but Ben is so dangerous, the only way Vilgax beat him was threatening his friends.
And then making a bomb that erases all Ben except Ben 0.
The name "Ultramite" goes hard
Imagine being mark and an edgy kid with a bulky ass watch just scans your DNA and you see him transform into your own species and then getting your ass whooped would be wild💀
Ben turning into Thragg+100 to stomp the Invincible universe would be wild
Worse, he would turn into the apex of the species
ULTIMATE THRAGG!
he wouldn't be as strong given he would be very young, and viltrumites grow through aging and combat, so 500+ year old mark beats bens at most 2 decades old peak viltrumite.
@@nicholas-dv1mg Yeah, but... ULTIMATE THRAGGGGGGGGGG!!!
@@yangchenlhamo7537 he wouldn't have thragg's dna, but mark's.
Imagine scanning a SAIYAN!!!
Ben 10 packs everyone up like a lunch. Danny is a close second.
"another episode of how bad does ben 10 slaughter" got me 😂😂😂
Didn't even bother bringing up Alien X. He blinks and the others are just gone. It'd be straight overkill
cuz Alien X is too IF
ben rarely ever use alien X due to having to argue/debate on the 2 conciousness that is in Alien X to make him do anything
Well it's more fun hearing an explanation rather than a "Alien X". Ben has other aliens in his arsenal y'know.
@@lag00n54he dosent have to fo that anymore at he end of omniverse he got them to debate for ever on there own and he can use alien x when he wants
@@doriankamanzi6874 yes in those scenes where he looks like he’s loosing to someone weak remember he is sandbagging.
@@erdenesaikhanamgalanhyiag8351 You talking bout the ben 10 reboot?
1 small correction. When Ben-10 copies an alien species, it turns them into a super soldier version of them. Now that’s a super soldier Viltrimite
Bold of you to assume Aang would fight anyone
I thought Mark was unbeatable. Y’know ‘cause he’s
*INVINCIBLE*
written by Robert Kirkman, Cory Walker, & Ryan Ottley
He out speeds Ben before the watch can fully download his DNA. It's not instant. Mark wins this.
@thebrickinthewall9838 your forgetting that the watch has a failsafe which prevents Ben from dying so regardless of how fast is your character is, they have to be able to counter or destroy the omnitrix to be able to do anything against Ben
@@thebrickinthewall9838ben has dodged lasers in base form
@@thebrickinthewall9838and he took a BIG BANG to the face and survived
Dosen't mark get beaten in his own show so I guess he's really not......... Invincible
Ben's about to finish what Sozin and 112 years of Fire Nation reign couldn't 💀
Sozin or Ozai? Cause it's been a while since I've seen avatar. Not trying to be rude tho.
@@constant1876 Sozin was the firelord that started the war, so it makes sense to use him there as the one who first tried to hunt the Avatar.
Ozai is the current firelord and is just continuing Sozin's legacy.
@WolforNuva mb you're right I just forgot about that detail. Thanks for clearing it up.
Y’all forget about Mark’s sound weakness, if Echo Echo can hit that right frequency Mark is essentially done
Ben is so OP it's ridiculous
Guys, do not put Ben on a vs list unless it includes people like Rimuru, Archie Sonic, Shinra Bashoman, etc.; he's winning 9/10.
7/10 is more probably
Or in death battles case...Green Lantern
@@eddihurta7173 Don't go there! I'm still recovering!!
@@eddihurta7173 To be fair they put a composite Green Lantern vs a less experienced 10 year old Ben with Alien X
@@mimesforcrimes8393and they contradicted themselves like 3 separate times
Can we just rule out Ben? Also I love how he won because of Mark and his feats lol
Honestly it’s just a much more fun answer than just “Alien-X”.
@@BLANK-pr5qs or atomix or clock work
Feel like waybig is a good alien for this fight
it's more so Mark's genes than his feats, Mark in no way is the strongest of his race lol
So you missed the part where he pointed out that Ben already has aliens that can deal with them even without scanning Mark?
Ben doesn’t even need to turn into a vultrumite he can just become alien x
Alien X is always my Trump card in any argument
Why do people keep putting aliens vs the GUY WHO BECOMES THE BEST VERSION OF ANY ALIEN?!
because they are not informed of what Ben can do or just plain dumb
Haha pretty much. Danny Phantom vs Invincible is pretty random too
Powerscalers aren’t exactly the brightest
The real question is, "Who's getting dropped first?"
Probably Danny
It's Aang. The only one who can reasonably even touch Danny would be Ben with specific aliens, so Danny is surviving unless Ben targets him first.
Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure everyone else just tanks whatever Aang can dish out. Even with Avatar State, it'll be rough for him.
@@ShadowWolfRisingnew comic came out for Danny and he's definitely not the first one out in fact he beats mark
@@Keith_Norman Mark outscales still but Danny outhaxes.
And Ben outscales and outhaxes everyone here
aang 100%. i love the kid but he can't touch any of the others. literally
Ben with the minds in AlienX working together, nigh unstoppable
Yo ultramight as an alien name goes hard
I could see him making fun of Ben’s new alien name, calling it cheesy or lazy, before getting punched in the mouth and sent across the map.😂
"Worth it" ~Mark probably
@@lazarus8018 "Probably was... Vincible." - Ben 10 probably
Echo Echo one shots Mark, Ben’s dealt with Ectonurites like Z’skayr & Ben has plenty of aliens that can control the elements far better than Aang has even in Avatar state.
ultimate echo echo
I disagree about controlling the elements better. But yeah, it's a curb stomp.
Viltramites aren't sensitive to high frequencies; they're sensitive to a certain frequency. Finding it would be next to impossible given there are infinite frequencies to go through. But yea, Ben still stomps with many different aliens. Also mark is losing to Danny before ben.
@Ace2014Ace The solution, make 1 million echo echos and blast them at different frequencies till one of them works, echo echo can duplicate after all and act independently
@@titaniumstar1772 they have a 1000 limit I think.
I didnt even register Ben in the line-up tbh😅
People gotta stop putting Ben in these match ups, dudes the Goku of American Animation
It’s funny cause people say that Mark would speed blitz Ben before he can scan him but people don’t realize that the watch would automatically transform him to keep him alive and to counter.
Will he scan a human? If Ben underestimates and chooses one of his shtty aliens, he's gettin ripped in half 😅 but ya, his potential is the highest
@@hvyarms4496 if ben dies, the omnitrtix recreates a body with any of the dna in the watch and he continues to live, and then hed realise to just use alien x, ben cant lose this fight no matter what, its just a dumb match up
@@hvyarms4496what about the beat shotty transformation, aka The Worst? he is entirely immune to physical damage iirc, so he could just sit there and let everyone else kill each other
Didn’t know Ben 10 lore went so hard
"It's a cartoon about a kid who turns into aliens"
The cartoon:
I'm not gonna say the lore is deep, but it's definitely deeper than a lot of kids cartoons, specially nowadays.
Ben. Without a doubt, Ben.
Not to mention he’s got a literal fucking EXTRA DIMENSIONAL GOD in there.
I think Omnimite would be a cool name as well because of Omnitrix mixed with Viltrumite.
Or he could use the name Omniman
@@Lutherstrode17492 But that name is taken
@@Roodeetoo that’s the point
bro I didn't remember that you absolutely right low key
Ben would wipe the floor with them easily
Ben the goat its that simple
The thing too is that Mark is half human half Viltrumite and apparently human hybrids are much powerful than purebloods so Ben gets more boost there
I saw Mark first and thought "OH, he wipes all for sure". Then I saw ben...
"Dude Mark sweeps how are Aang and Danny gonna b- ohhhhhhhhh that's Ben 10. Right."
Mark definitely beats Aang but if this is Danny during his new comic book Mark is definitely faster but the roles have been reversed on who's more powerful
@@Keith_Norman I haven't read the comic but he wouldn't need it, how is Mark supposed to damage Danny? Plus, Danny can take over people's minds which I don't see why it wouldn't work on Mark.
@@reuvencooper8170 yeah but the problem is what is he supposed to do after that I mean he could potentially knock him out but yeah in the comic mark would die to Danny
Not to mention that when Ben transforms into any alien the Omnitrix has a “instinct emulation” feature that gives ben the exact knowledge on the powers he has in that form and how to use it at the optimal level.
Meaning he’ll be the peak of that species in comparison to his age and know how to fight in the best way possible with it. Its done for the other 3.
I'm wondering when this came into play? I fell off the show not far into Ultimate Alien but I remember a big thing in the original show is Ben struggling with using his powers effectively.
Hell, one of the coolest episodes is the one where he trains with the Diamondhead bounty hunter guy to fight better with Diamondhead.
@@Rynjinivar It was always a feature, however it mainly comes into play during alien force
@ProtocolAbyss I thought it was only added in Alien Force. Because, as seen with Cannonbolt and Ditto's introductions, he clearly didn't have it in the original series
@@underdrow5572 its in a minor form in the first series. It basically tells him how to generally move, speak and breath amongst other basic necessities. It only gives him knowledge of powers in alien force after reconfiguration.
@@ProtocolAbyssI always saw it has ben 10 og was the prototype build, but then Alien Force and beyond gave us the more advanced builds.
He may be a teen but his watch is the ultimate debate killer
Nah Ben would call that viltrumite transformation "Viltrumighty" before absolutely going to work😂😂😂
Ben has literally beaten ghosts and elementalists before
And yeah scan mark would make a peak Viltrumite as well as give him the buff mark gets from his human side.
I wonder could he also scan Danny and become a stronger Halfa or would that not work
@@aragaminightmare9527would it work because Danny is a half ghost? Because its been awhile since i watched Ben10(og one.not the reboot) and Danny Phantom
Ben does have a ghost form so it should work however whatever form he gets from Danny would actually have more of Danny's personality than Ben's
peak viltrumite at his age, which would get easily beaten by 500+ year old mark. ben's been lucky that most of his aliens age many times faster than humans, I'm pretty sure XLR8's race only lives for a few weeks.
@@AM90715 The Omnitrix is programmed to ignore hybrids and mutants when searching for new DNA. Though it can extract a pure sample from whatever species a hybrid is made up of, so he would get a pure viltrumite out of Mark, which would actually put him at a disadvantage since being part human gives Mark's body the ability to produce adrenaline, which viltrumites lack.
This isn't a design limitation, it's an artificial one placed by its creator, that could theoretically be disabled if Ben wanted to, he'd just have to become one of his intelligence based aliens and try and hack it.
Any DNA sample ever could be used by the Omnitrix, all it really does is produce a result from given DNA the same way cloning would, and port the user's mind into it.
Now real explanation has ever been given as to _why_ this limitation is there, but I think it's straightforward.
Hybrids are redundant, and combining races together like that would be ethically dubious from a scientist's perspective.
And mutants, by virtue of being unique individual beings, are not an entire species, if they develop into their own species after a few thousand years, then they'll fit Azmuth's sampling criteria then.
There is a third limitation that we actually see get explored: the alien has to be sapient, it can't be an animal on the same tier as a pig or slug or shark.
A villain in Omniverse made an Omnitrix knockoff without this limitation, and it resulted in its human test user being driven insane and having his DNA corrupted, his mind literally just could not fit inside the brain he was being forced into.
Fun Fact: Azmuth tried to get at least two samples per planet given this criteria, if possible, and with Earth he sampled humans, _and dolphins._
Ben can canonically transform into a dolphin, the DNA sample is literally already there.
I like how you showed how powerful Ben can be even without Alien X
Ben 10: oh look more Alien DNA to collect.
“Ultramite” is fire 🔥ngl
I love how Aang is such a nonfactor that he wasn't even mentioned
Ben's true power is he can think of a new slur(names) for aliens on the go
Even with Alien X and the failsafe off the table, Ben sweeps anyone.
his arguments aren't wrong, they're straight up Lore Accurate.
The funny thing is Ben doesn't even have to scan Mark to win or use Alien X. Ben has so many diverse aliens that he can change into mid fight that can overwhelm Mark.
Ben. I’m sorry, but he can become the essence of infinity.
Ben basically turning into Thragg is so busted
This fight was cooked the minute they brought up Ben he is multiverse level at minimum.
worse, he is fourth dimensional (Alien X). If you want to fight him you need to have 4th dimension+ powers, and not have them come from your genetics
Doesn't matter Mark blitz him at the start of the fight and it's over. Ben cannot hit the watch before Mark hits him.
@@thebrickinthewall9838 Mark doesn't have the speed to blitz ben
@@rory8182Alien X is way above 5th dimensional what are you smoking!?
The Omnitrix has MFTL+ speeds and can auto transform Ben. @@thebrickinthewall9838
Bro ben is absolutely clapping everyones cheeks EXPEDITIOUSLY
Imagine Ben scans Mark and he becomes stronger Viltrumite than Thragg even 💀