2020 MACHETE REVIEW! One Didn't Make It. Honshu Kershaw Ontario Schrade Outdoor Edge
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- In this video Im testing out some of my machetes that I thought may be entertaining. I am not sponsored at all. I purchased all of these blades and these are my honest opinions of them.
Honshu Spartan Sword: www.budk.com/H...
Kershaw Camp 18: www.knifecente...
Ontario 18" Machete: www.amazon.com...
Schrade SCHMBSCP Priscilla: www.amazon.com...
Outdoor Edge Brush Demon: www.amazon.com...
If I had to place these blades. My top 2 Machetes in this line up would be a tie
ONTARIO 18 inch machete and the
OUTDOOR EDGE Brush Demon
3rd place goes to the KERSHAW CAMP 18
4th SCHRADE SCHMBSCP Priscilla
5th Honshu Spartan Sword.
What would your line up look like?
You seem like the kind of guy that loves a good blade. I got my eye one 2 at the moment that look .... well sexy... best I can put it.... checkout the M48 Kukri and the Todd Begg Proto machete....
Mine would be .Ontario .Kershaw demon .Priscilla and we'll honshu
Familiar with the Kershaw 18. Grew up with the Ontario. Different uses. For brush, definitely the Ontario. For chopping, the Kershaw 18. It goes through thick limbs. Can clear brush, but tiresome. I have had the Kershaw 18 for years. Beat the mess out of it. It would be my choice over the Ontario in woodlands since I am not a hatchet guy. For jugle, the Ontario. I will have to get the demon and give it a try. Ty
Edit: Kershaw 18 is like a mix between an axe and a machete.
priscilla is not a machete it is brush sword
Thank you for not cutting water bottles, your the best man
Ahem...I think I mentioned the potential for breakage w/ the Spartan in a previous comment on your review of that sword. The steel it is made of is hard, which allows it to hold an edge and a wicked point, but also inclines it to fracture or chip under extreme stress. You assessment is correct: It's a sword, not a real, durable machete.
By the way, you should check out Cold Steel's 'Gladius Machete'. It's actually both a much more practical self-defense weapon and a great machete at the same time. Great for home defense, camping, hunting, etc., because it doesn't really look like a sword, but functions perfectly as one. It's also super-cheap. And no, I'm not sponsored by Cold Steel. In fact, I don't like many of their products. But there is no denying the bang for the buck with their machete.
Thank you, for the video!
And the gladius machete is based on an actual spartan sword the sword he used in the video is just based on Hollywood bs it looks nice but not near as functional in combat since it’s so top heavy
@@chasecogsdell6083 Well, to be accurate, the gladius is based on a standard-issue Roman sword, not a Spartan blade. And, inasmuch as the Honshu Spartan is not historically accurate, it isn't terribly far off. With that said, an actual ancient Greek kopis or falcatta would have a hand enclosure that would help to keep the sword from flying out of your hand when striking.
I own both! You are spot on! My ancestors were The Romans, so I had to get the Cold Steel Gladius Machete. It's awesome. I keep it right next to my bed. The Greeks are also in my DNA, so I own the Honshu Spartan in D2 Tool Steel. I like it a lot as well. Mine won't break, because I don't plan on using it as a machete. I have a real machete for machete stuff made by Ontario Swords.
The Kershaw is the clear winner here. In terms of cutting and chopping it eats the others for breakfast.
Still no damage to blade...lol...you wouldn't be hitting the hard table clearing brush though...gotta love it.👍that line up definitely ontario..
Personally, I would never ruin my machete edge chopping thick wood type stuff. I have axes/hatchets and big choppers for that. Clearing brush is a different type of cutting as it's often live, bendy n tangled. So save your machetes for clearing brush and killing zombies. You'll be glad you did for the upcoming apocalypse, lol. Anyway, it was good to see these machetes in action. Stay safe, Be Blessed
65Mn is not a mystery steel, it's just the Chinese designation for 1065 high carbon steel, which is in the same family of steels as 1055,1075, 1080, 1095, etc. Very tough simple steel that hold a good edge.
Kershaw has the best bang for your buck possible!!!
I have a machete from the 70s. Has colt logo on it. Your test was on target.
I’ll keep my old one.
Everyone forget the fine made in USA est.wing with the saw on back its only 10.5 " blade i believe and 1075 steel or 1055 but have had 1 for a very long time and its kinda thick but works great..especially for price.
What I want to know is what kind of Tang is in the Honshu..how big or little is it and how far does it go in the handle
It broke where the blade and tang meet (at the guard). At that area the blade is over 1.75 inches wide and the tang drops down to 3/4 inches wide. From what I can see it is full tang through the handle but only 3/4 inch wide. For a blade this size that kind of design spells disaster especially using stainless steel.
Thats what happens with rat-tail tangs
It has a poon tang, and it goes all the way in.
Hey Jon question on about the Honshu.. on amazon ur able to purchase that blade in stainless for 80$ and another type of metal for 183$. Guess my question is would the more expensive version be the blade to purchase? thanx
Probably. It's advertised as D2 which is a great steel when tempered properly. I have a Benchmade with D2 so it's definitely well known as a hard, tough steel. I recently bought a $240 Condor Tactana in 1075 and 2" snapped off the end barely clipping a chair. They replaced it, but I can't guarantee I'd trust it on anything not flesh
So a hard stop on flat surface will break it cause there is a lot of force. Wondering if D2 version of Honshu Sword would pass that test.
Yes you are correct. That table is tough on any blade. Kinda why I nicknamed it the TORTURE TABLE! As far as the D2 blade I am wondering the same thing. I would love to get it and test for ya. I have reached out to United Cutlery maybe they will send one I can TORTURE!
If it is in fact D2 ... And for $200+ it had better! I have an iPak D2 steel kopis I got used for half that and it's a winner, closer to some original kopis shapes with a true full tang which I like.
For certain blades I feel that if you take more metal out of the blade to the handle and put holes and notches in them your gonna break every time. they mainly for looks rather than work tools. I liking that Camp 18. looks to be a great working blade for sure. Depending on how much work is needed and has a nice look to it.
Great testing methods 👍🏻, & very useful reviews. Well done 👏🏻💯
Brush Demon 🥇. Wish you would test & review D2 Spartan or D2 Kukri from Honshu. Love their designs, & ❤️D2 steel‼️
Your reviews are excellent. That said, the spartan isn't a machete and shouldn't be used as one. It would be great for defense or light choirs, but it's shape alone shows that it isn't designed to replace a machete. You may not have intended this, but the video was showing the importance of the right tool for the right job. Kudos to you, Bro. :)
Never again. Had a honshu war sword fail in the first 5mins before I even did anything serious with it. I hit soft a stump (meaning rotten) and it broke at the handle.
Good, honest, entertaining! ... Looking forward to more. I have the Schrade machaira (priscilla) because it is based on a sword and it works well enough as both. I was interested in the Honshu Spartan fantasy sword till you broke it, lol, then saw the D2 version and got deflated by the $250 price tag. ... As i write this I have your video paused at 1:53 looking at the shape of all the blades, not counting the Honshu (well, because of the odd Hollywood departure of it), there are 3 blades derived from sword designs I am a fan of there, ... Got my attention! Good work, keep it up!
I would turn that broken piece into a bad a** knife dude for real the thing has potential now
The broken Honshu...
I had the same problem by testing an cheap Katana (full tang)...but a friend of mine said : hey i will welding it...I didnt belive that it even would be worth the time he will spend by fixing it....but ....he welding it and I realy tried hard to break it again ...but there was No way doing it...cant believe it till today..
So before buying a new one just welding it maybe u will face the same experience I did
Really?! I would have been doubtful about welding a blade and it affecting the heat treat. This blade is stainless was your katana stainless?
Yes it was stainless Steel 440
It cost just about 90 USD full tang heavy and looked like an huge kitchen knife...
It broke only cause i hit on a free standing peace of Wood sideway...after welding it I destroyed an massive writing desk with it...maybe only this part were it broke was the weak part
It was exactly like ur Honshu broke
I still dont like this sword cause it is realy heavy but im sure that i could not treat a "real" Katana "l ike this cause the Bambustick where the Blade is fixed would break...
@@sifusasdo2314 Well that is encouraging. Thanks for sharing!
I own the Priscilla and a surplus Ontario machete, I love them both but for different reasons. The Priscilla is a short sword that can be used as a machete which broadens its market. It’s designer Josh Waggoner sells a 1095 version called the Theresa. The Ontario is proven as our military machete, period. I wrapped my handle in paradors to improve the grip.
1) Ontario
2) Kershawn Camp 18
3) Outdoor Edge Brush Demon?
That Honshu took the most brutal treatment, with that wailing on that 4”-5” Diameter dry Oak in that previous video, as well as the other tests. If you limited it to zombies and self defense…. it would remove a lot of heads without any problems. Most of the time, all you would have to do is to present it, unless you came across someone armed with a firearm….. well, then, I’d hope they were next to me, or within 4 feet of me before they were able to fully present it. 😬😉
Also, I’ve read a lot of reviews for it on Amazon, and they were all too soft according to most. You got one of the harder ones, possibly a bit too hard. I always suspected that narrowed area where they drilled those useless holes, and milled those recesses on each side of the holes, to be the area to fail.
Certainly, you will not get as good a Heat Treatment in China, as you would in the USA. There are probably much better Heat Treat Recipes available for that Stainless to make it much more durable, but they are probably unaware of them, and also wouldn’t bother to do it anyway, due to the fact that time is money. For only around $70. that is a pretty darn good looking sword, with beautiful grinding. That is hard to come by, which is why I was interested in it in the first place. I like that Spartan design/Movie.
This is what I have told people why never to buy stainless steel blades , yeah they look and feel nice but if and when it might come down to protection you just don't want your sword to brake , I know you showing machetes , they are just designed for cutting wood and brush and shrubs and yeah you can use it for protection , any time I buy a sword I make sure it's 1060 and up , and any thing with a blade don't buy them with holes or slots in the blade it's just a bad idea.
1060 is a good steel and I agree about the no holes and slots. Thanks for commenting.
I have been looking at that brush demon. Tought it's a little short but looks like it works. I have been using an Old Hickory 14" for brush. Works nice and you can do your own patina on the blade. But...a $20 Tramatina is the way to go if on a budget.
And honestly I don't understand why they put holes and things like that in the bottom of a knife it's guaranteed to break every time right where those holes are at brat or where the debits are in my own experience anyways what's my that's my 2 cents
John, the Spartan sword you used there was 440 stainless?
Also, for anyone who has purchased it, I figured out a practical use for those seemingly useless holes at the base of the Spartan's blade: You can run a paracord lanyard back to the lanyard hole in the handle. That will help keep that thing from flying out of your hand accidentally.
First test of the vid.- it looks like you consistently used the portion of the blade 3 or four inches inward, away from the sweet spot. You got good results though, so now I'm questioning my use of the chop section on my blades..somebody help me out..its not wrong if he's getting results...maybe dudes a lot stronger and that's cool..any thoughts?
It's difficult sometimes to get that sweet spot when testing on my table so rely on brute force lol.
I have a Brush Demon and that thing is a monster. It is tough as nails and will go through anything. I have used it for weeks straight cutting apart trees and tree limbs as well as blackberry bushes and other assorted brush. With the Honshu, look at it this way, now you have a new Bowie knife if you put a new handle on it! That Priscilla looks pretty good, the key there is NO HOLLOW GRIND.
I would like to see you test the CRKT ChanceInHell & the HalfAChance. Plus Condors Dundee & Discord too!
That Kershaw is awesome. Definitely going to pick one of those up
I like that shirt your wearing. Looks comfortable. Can you tell me the brand?
United use to make some great stuff killed that junction welding the gaurd up .most likely great stuff I'm loveing it
I like the military one the best...good job on the video
Yep cant go wrong with that tool. It will last a long time!
Military grade is the cheapest materials they can get without failing inspection.
That wasn't the D2 metal Spartan sword was it?
No it was the stainless one. Which is not made for these type of tasks.
I'm glad I'm not the only one in the world trying to find the best machete/ short-sword.... dude why the hell is so difficult! They always break on me... atm I'm using a 24" full tang sherade with the saw tooth back... everyone's breaks.. mine hasn't yet..... I'm waiting for it to happen... but it may never.. who knows.. so far it's done me good... but waiting for a blade to fail... that's bad form, and probably dangerous... so I'm still looking for My Machete...
I'm an Eagle Scout and a hunter, living in the deep woods of Mississippi. The brush we have down here is second to none on the planet! Our brush is so bad it will jump out and grab you and drag you in... I'll always be on the hunt for that machete I'll give the Rambo/Chuck Norse seal of approval.... haven't found it yet...
Seems you've fallen into the same trap as most blade aficionados in regards to finding a good machete. Don't trust fancy modern expensive steels and forget the commonly known knife brands. Look instead for a good long established tool machete made of a decent carbon steel. Brands I'd recommend are Tramontina, Imacasa, Condor, and Ontario. The first three are of South American or Central American manufacture and have been trusted by generations who use and depend on them daily. Another plus is they're super inexpensive compared to well known knife brand manufacturers' "machetes." The Ontario in this vid is just as good because it's made exactly the same way as its southern counterparts, stressing function over form. Another decent, but overpriced imo, choice would be Cold Steel as long as you stick to their basic tool type or gladius machetes. Keep far away from anything flashy, fancy or modern if you actually depend on it not failing. Hope that helps. Good luck finding that trustworthy machete.
@@extrasmack Ahhh, but to some of us "form follows function", ... Very good advice on South and Central American examples!!! I lived in Mexico 10 years Estado de Jalisco en la Sierra Madre, there most implements were made locally from spring steel from el yonke, best damn tools and blades I've ever used!
@@michaeljarchibald7417 sounds like you had lots of first hand personal experience with real herramienta de el campo. Wish I could get my hands on a couple good large blades made by a local herrero! Bet they were stupid inexpensive too. Unfortunately not having any business or acquaintances in deep mexico by the wilds I make do with the next best mass produced couterparts. As long as function was the first consideration in their making, it works for me. Saludos!! 👋
@@extrasmack Fue un placer charlar contigo, porta te bien, y si no invitas!
I would like to have the broken blade of the Honshu, I would make a awesome bowie knife out of it.
Full tang. Great idea
Awesome video and I’m taking all of them 😁
Oh good video though thx keep them coming.
The Spartan Sword was probably hardened all the way down through the tang. They are stronger at the handle if you don't harden past the plunge line or lowest edge area. Hardened steel is harder, not stronger.
Traditional swords actually married a piece of handle steel to the blade steel through forge welding. That way they could use a different steel and even a different thickness for the handle piece.
I agree with 100%. Great comment!
Stainless steels can't be differentially heat treated like many carbon , alloy and tool steels can. It's just the nature of the material to have the same hardness throughout a piece stainless steel. So either heat treatment was off or that particular batch of stainless steel had some flaw on a molecular level. The steel on that Spartan sword by Honshu is 7Cr13, not 440C.
Well course that Spartan blade is not for chopping wood it's for soft targets like flesh.fabric and Thea here and there hard surface miss
That Kershaw is "sweet"!
Outdoor Edge is a little monster.
9:15 I fear you have concluded correctly. Oh well, at least it LOOKED pretty.
Ontario Military machete is best for Armageddon 🔥🔥🔥✌️😎✌️🍀🍀🍀🍀🌎🍀🍀🍀
8:52 If you watch real CLOSELY, you can see something bad happens to the blade.😳
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Good vid but can you please, next time choose a winner, we arn't stupid we know it's only your opinion, so choose one darn it some of us gotta know because we may have one of those machetes you reviewed
Stop chopping on the table and you'll stop breaking stuff. Cant remember last time I needed to chop some 2x6 but hey you never know. Be a little more practical with the tests, real life situations. Just some constructive criticism friend. You tested the hell out of those. Sorry about the failure. From one blade lover to another.
Honshu? that's gotta be that BudK chinamade overpriced gas station mess
It is made by BudK. Thanks for commenting my friend.
A piece of sh...t unfortunately (Honshu Spartan Sword) Ontario 18" Machete is my favorite
I had a Honshu dadao , it broke in the same way too. Keep away from that brand, its only a wall hanger 🫤