Thank you Scottie. When I bought my first house I had grand plans to put ethernet sockets in every room in the house. I bought a huge reel of network cable for the job. Then I tried to wire my own network plugs using the usual tools and found it to be impossible! It just WAY too difficult to get every single wire to connect properly. My tester would show I had got six or seven good connections. Most of the time was 4 or 5. Was so frustrating that I gave up in the end and just ran a pre-built cable from my router up the wall, through the floor straight into a switch in the office room and connect my devices to that. Not ideal but it works.
Hello Scottie and Cletus. Great video, as always. My house was built in 1889, just one cable in my study/library. But it turned out to be easy because I only need the cable in two rooms.
When we built our house 20 years ago we had an OnQ panel put in. They brought in the blue hose (2 Cat5e, 2 RG6 Coax). One Cat5e was for phone jacks, one Cat5e for the network. The 2 Coax were for video (black for TV, White for either cameras our video chaining to other TVs). The one Cat5e goes into my Phone Switch, and the other goes into the network patch panel. My question is, is that patch panel actually needed? I discovered one port on my Patch Panel is toast (and it happens to be for my main office), and I've looked at getting a new patch panel (Cat6) from Legrand. It's relatively inexpensive at $40USD, but I'm wondering why I would even bother. Why not crimp RJ45 connectors onto the cable and send it directly into the network switch, thus removing a connection point as well as a failure point. I have the tools/parts/cable to make custom cables anyway, but I'm wondering what good that patch panel actually is. Why not just have all those terminated into RJ45 connector and bundled into the panel, then you can mount a switch in the panel and move on. if I'm just going from the patch panel to a Network Switch, it means making up 8 more custom cables (because they will be all of about 100cm long. I just find the patch panel kind of a waste, but I'm wondering if it is actually "needed". It's great if I want all my switches/modems/routers in a different location (currently required), but it seems to be a pretty big mess. :( I don't like "messes" in my wiring...
If you need wifi (most of the time we don't) you can also check out JRS eco routers which have a 10% pulse ratio on cheaper models compared to normal routers with no decrease in performance, or no pulsing AT ALL with higher end models when configured correctly. Essentially it will turn off wifi when you aren't using it, but admittedly you do need some IT and networking knowledge to set them up.
Ah ok, to go along with godzilla back there, yes I am familiar.....brings back memories of me and a friend watching those badly done but strangely entertaining Japanese productions, at the time though they seemed to have LOTS of production value.
Could you please help me on my wiring? The WAN port on my FIOS router is connected to the wall jack on the first floor. I have another wall jack on the second floor but it’s not connected to anything. I wanted to put both wall jacks in use so I moved my router to the basement, disconnected the coupler (the cable from outside is directly connected to one of the Ethernet cables in the wall with a small coupler), and connected the cable from outside directly to the WAN port in my router. I was planning to connect the cables in my wall to the router but the router didn’t get any internet connection. Based on my understanding I was just changing from Cable1->Cable2->router to Cable1->router. I really don’t understand why it’s not working. Please help. Thanks!
Two things I can think of offhand: Is the coupler just a coupler, or is it a "crossover coupler"? Also, is cable 2 wired to be a crossover cable (pairs of Ethernet wires swapped)? You can test this with an Ethernet cable tester (or a multimeter if you have steady hands and lots of patience).
@@ScottiesTech Thank you so much for the reply! I tested the wires carefully and found that the wires were sorted incorrectly. They were in the same order getting in and out of the coupler so I didn’t have any issue before. But when I plug one of the port directly into my router it couldn’t read the signal correctly. I reinstalled the cable caps following your other video and it’s working now! Thanks!!!
I would personally keep the wifi around for mobile devices like phones and tablets. Can you use an ethernet dongle for those? Sure, but that seems pretty ridiculous and very impractical, phones and tablets were designed to be mobile. When you consider that you usually keep your phone on your person, it makes absolutely 0 sense to have it hardwired to the internet.
so i did some investigating in my new house and all my cat5e cables lead to a panel on the side of house and they are labeled but have no connectors on the ends, also there is no power outlet where the cables are bundled at to power a switch so I'm confused to get them working for internet 🤔
You'd have to terminate each cable into a patch panel... OR save money and just put Ethernet connectors on the ends of each cable, and plug them into a switch. But you will need power (somehow) for the Ethernet switch. It might be worth getting an electrician in. There should be power somewhere nearby that they might be able to tap off to create a new outlet - altho that depends on the rules/regulations in your region, usually.
Thank you for your videos! I have cat5 wall jacks (ethernet cables do not plug into them) and a patch panel where all my cable and phone comes in and there are 2 WAN ports (house was built 20 years ago). Can I make use of those WAN ports at all? Also I have internet through my cable company. Is it possible to plug in two modems/routers in different parts of the house?
If it's just a patch panel, then the WAN ports are like any other Ethernet port: something has to be connected to them, and you'd still need a switch + router. If you have 2 net connections, then you could create 2 different networks in the house. You have 1 modem/router connected to a switch with certain Ethernet jacks/rooms from the patch panel hooked up to that switch, and then a 2nd modem/router to a 2nd switch with all the other rooms' Ethernet jacks connected to that 2nd switch.
Yes. If you use a WiFi router, it should be plug and play. If you use a range extender, you'd have to make sure that it has an 'access point' mode. Some WiFi range extenders have an Ethernet port, but you can only use it to provide net access to a connected gizmo. Others are configurable so that the extender will get internet from the Ethernet connection, and share it via WiFi (more like a router).
I could never understand people wanting computers all over the house. I work station is sufficient and who wants to be on the internet all day and night. Maybe I am weird don't know. The computer is a great Library at your fingertips but I am not hooked on (addicted) to the internet like some people are. Computers have their uses but some people are constantly on facebook etc, they are hooked. Go outside enjoy life, lol I see people on mobiles all the time, and some people just can't put the bloody things down, every time you see them they are on the mobile talking to friends etc. I hate the mobile it is annoying idiots you don't know ringing you about anything and everything and people expect you to ring back if you miss a call HA what a joke. I am weird cause I turn it off and put it in a bag in a spare bedroom. LOL To me the mobile is just for emergencies, but of course now people get rid of the house phones and use the mobile, because we have been pushed to do this for a long time now. People need to look into the health issues with these technologies. Your health is more important.
Why do you need a patch panel ? I have my cables connected to the switch directly, and that switch is connected to the modem/router (in the Netherlands they don’t separate them)
You don't need a patch panel, really. But for newbies, it's easier to use a punchdown tool and connect bare Ethernet cables to the panel than it is to add connectors on the ends of each cable. Plus, it's more tidy.
Why not use powerline internet? Plug one in the same socket from the router, connect the router to it and in the other room put a second in and on this the pc and so on 🤔
It's a viable solution. But can be fraught with problems. The reason people don't do it is: lower speeds (throughput) and pre-existing line noise (ie from other appliances like smart refrigerators.) Also, the adapters you need for every outlet are bulky and expensive. That said, I use them as a short term solution in my new home.
lone wolf I'm simply answering his logistical question, not making a value judgement. But, frankly, either method would achieve the same results in terms of protection from EMF exposure (since both methods negate the need for WiFi signals to fly around your home.)
Why do you need a patch panel in the first place? Why can't you just connect the Ethernet wire directly into the switch? What benefit does a patch panel provide over connecting directly into a switch?
You don't need a patch panel, actually. You could just crimp RJ-45 connectors on the ends of each cable, and plug those directly into a switch. Normally tho, there WILL be a panel already connected to the wall jacks. And if there isn't, I always install one because a) it makes labeling and keeping track of which cable is which much easier, and b) it separates the in-wall stuff from the out-of-wall stuff. It's like electrical breaker panels: you can do it the quick-and-dirty way (a mess of tangled wires), or you can do it the clean and organized way. At some point down the road, either you or someone else who looks at it and debugs some problem will thank you for it.
If they are strictly phone lines, then no. If the phone lines are CAT5 or newer cables, then yes you can use them as ethernet cables. You would just need to put RJ-45 ends on both ends of the cable.
Doable, but impractical. I believe most Android phones with USB-C ports support ethernet over USB-C adapters. Not sure if there's an equivalent for iPhones.
Unmanaged. Don't really need more expensive managed switches for a simple home network - unless you want to do some kind of traffic shaping or rate limiting per user or something like that.
My observation and knowledge exactly. If you connect the dots of radio electronics and cellular medicine the reasons for the hazard appear right in front of you. :)
The 2nd part of this video is up! czcams.com/video/RxgUHxRazHc/video.html
Good morning Cletus and Scottie! Time to get the coffee🖖🏻
Thank you Scottie. When I bought my first house I had grand plans to put ethernet sockets in every room in the house. I bought a huge reel of network cable for the job. Then I tried to wire my own network plugs using the usual tools and found it to be impossible! It just WAY too difficult to get every single wire to connect properly. My tester would show I had got six or seven good connections. Most of the time was 4 or 5. Was so frustrating that I gave up in the end and just ran a pre-built cable from my router up the wall, through the floor straight into a switch in the office room and connect my devices to that. Not ideal but it works.
Thanx Scottie, that's clear as mud. That's why in this times I have a coffee and rum in the morning and coffee is optional!!!
LOL! Breakfast of champions!
Hello Scottie and Cletus. Great video, as always. My house was built in 1889, just one cable in my study/library. But it turned out to be easy because I only need the cable in two rooms.
Wow this was super helpful. I was struggling to figure out this wiring in a rental. Love all the diagrams.
Thanks. Watching these to help me move from WiFi to cabled. Keep it going!
When we built our house 20 years ago we had an OnQ panel put in. They brought in the blue hose (2 Cat5e, 2 RG6 Coax). One Cat5e was for phone jacks, one Cat5e for the network. The 2 Coax were for video (black for TV, White for either cameras our video chaining to other TVs). The one Cat5e goes into my Phone Switch, and the other goes into the network patch panel.
My question is, is that patch panel actually needed?
I discovered one port on my Patch Panel is toast (and it happens to be for my main office), and I've looked at getting a new patch panel (Cat6) from Legrand. It's relatively inexpensive at $40USD, but I'm wondering why I would even bother. Why not crimp RJ45 connectors onto the cable and send it directly into the network switch, thus removing a connection point as well as a failure point. I have the tools/parts/cable to make custom cables anyway, but I'm wondering what good that patch panel actually is. Why not just have all those terminated into RJ45 connector and bundled into the panel, then you can mount a switch in the panel and move on.
if I'm just going from the patch panel to a Network Switch, it means making up 8 more custom cables (because they will be all of about 100cm long. I just find the patch panel kind of a waste, but I'm wondering if it is actually "needed". It's great if I want all my switches/modems/routers in a different location (currently required), but it seems to be a pretty big mess. :( I don't like "messes" in my wiring...
Good series! I'd reccomend this to my English-speaking friends. :)
If you need wifi (most of the time we don't) you can also check out JRS eco routers which have a 10% pulse ratio on cheaper models compared to normal routers with no decrease in performance, or no pulsing AT ALL with higher end models when configured correctly. Essentially it will turn off wifi when you aren't using it, but admittedly you do need some IT and networking knowledge to set them up.
Thank You . . .
Thanks Scottie great explanation 🤠👍
Very detailed, thanks for sharing!
please explain the "cloud creature" at the upper left hand side of the graphic....in the sky
That's Gamera, the mutated flying giant turtle-monster-thing. He battled Godzilla in a few old movies (the original Japanese ones).
Ah ok, to go along with godzilla back there, yes I am familiar.....brings back memories of me and a friend watching those badly done but strangely entertaining Japanese productions, at the time though they seemed to have LOTS of production value.
Thanks for the great videos! Appreciate you, man.
Could you please help me on my wiring? The WAN port on my FIOS router is connected to the wall jack on the first floor. I have another wall jack on the second floor but it’s not connected to anything. I wanted to put both wall jacks in use so I moved my router to the basement, disconnected the coupler (the cable from outside is directly connected to one of the Ethernet cables in the wall with a small coupler), and connected the cable from outside directly to the WAN port in my router. I was planning to connect the cables in my wall to the router but the router didn’t get any internet connection. Based on my understanding I was just changing from Cable1->Cable2->router to Cable1->router. I really don’t understand why it’s not working. Please help. Thanks!
Two things I can think of offhand: Is the coupler just a coupler, or is it a "crossover coupler"? Also, is cable 2 wired to be a crossover cable (pairs of Ethernet wires swapped)? You can test this with an Ethernet cable tester (or a multimeter if you have steady hands and lots of patience).
@@ScottiesTech Thank you so much for the reply! I tested the wires carefully and found that the wires were sorted incorrectly. They were in the same order getting in and out of the coupler so I didn’t have any issue before. But when I plug one of the port directly into my router it couldn’t read the signal correctly. I reinstalled the cable caps following your other video and it’s working now! Thanks!!!
@@user-hz2zh2fu9d WOOHOO!!!!
I would personally keep the wifi around for mobile devices like phones and tablets. Can you use an ethernet dongle for those? Sure, but that seems pretty ridiculous and very impractical, phones and tablets were designed to be mobile. When you consider that you usually keep your phone on your person, it makes absolutely 0 sense to have it hardwired to the internet.
so i did some investigating in my new house and all my cat5e cables lead to a panel on the side of house and they are labeled but have no connectors on the ends, also there is no power outlet where the cables are bundled at to power a switch so I'm confused to get them working for internet 🤔
You'd have to terminate each cable into a patch panel... OR save money and just put Ethernet connectors on the ends of each cable, and plug them into a switch. But you will need power (somehow) for the Ethernet switch. It might be worth getting an electrician in. There should be power somewhere nearby that they might be able to tap off to create a new outlet - altho that depends on the rules/regulations in your region, usually.
Thank you for your videos! I have cat5 wall jacks (ethernet cables do not plug into them) and a patch panel where all my cable and phone comes in and there are 2 WAN ports (house was built 20 years ago). Can I make use of those WAN ports at all? Also I have internet through my cable company. Is it possible to plug in two modems/routers in different parts of the house?
If it's just a patch panel, then the WAN ports are like any other Ethernet port: something has to be connected to them, and you'd still need a switch + router. If you have 2 net connections, then you could create 2 different networks in the house. You have 1 modem/router connected to a switch with certain Ethernet jacks/rooms from the patch panel hooked up to that switch, and then a 2nd modem/router to a 2nd switch with all the other rooms' Ethernet jacks connected to that 2nd switch.
Could I connect another wifi router or a range extender to an ethernet switch out in my garage? Its just out of my wifi router range from the house.
Yes. If you use a WiFi router, it should be plug and play. If you use a range extender, you'd have to make sure that it has an 'access point' mode. Some WiFi range extenders have an Ethernet port, but you can only use it to provide net access to a connected gizmo. Others are configurable so that the extender will get internet from the Ethernet connection, and share it via WiFi (more like a router).
Is there a portable Ethernet for my old Samsung Galaxy Tab A tablet, it is tm 350.
I had a Galaxy Tab A, and I'm pretty sure this one is the one that worked: amzn.to/398QzaH
I could never understand people wanting computers all over the house. I work station is sufficient and who wants to be on the internet all day and night. Maybe I am weird don't know. The computer is a great Library at your fingertips but I am not hooked on (addicted) to the internet like some people are. Computers have their uses but some people are constantly on facebook etc, they are hooked. Go outside enjoy life, lol I see people on mobiles all the time, and some people just can't put the bloody things down, every time you see them they are on the mobile talking to friends etc. I hate the mobile it is annoying idiots you don't know ringing you about anything and everything and people expect you to ring back if you miss a call HA what a joke. I am weird cause I turn it off and put it in a bag in a spare bedroom. LOL To me the mobile is just for emergencies, but of course now people get rid of the house phones and use the mobile, because we have been pushed to do this for a long time now. People need to look into the health issues with these technologies. Your health is more important.
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True dat
Why do you need a patch panel ? I have my cables connected to the switch directly, and that switch is connected to the modem/router (in the Netherlands they don’t separate them)
You don't need a patch panel, really. But for newbies, it's easier to use a punchdown tool and connect bare Ethernet cables to the panel than it is to add connectors on the ends of each cable. Plus, it's more tidy.
I love your videos
Why not use powerline internet? Plug one in the same socket from the router, connect the router to it and in the other room put a second in and on this the pc and so on 🤔
It's a viable solution. But can be fraught with problems. The reason people don't do it is: lower speeds (throughput) and pre-existing line noise (ie from other appliances like smart refrigerators.) Also, the adapters you need for every outlet are bulky and expensive. That said, I use them as a short term solution in my new home.
@@HockeyJock so health is less important than the internet?
lone wolf I'm simply answering his logistical question, not making a value judgement. But, frankly, either method would achieve the same results in terms of protection from EMF exposure (since both methods negate the need for WiFi signals to fly around your home.)
I did a vid on that! czcams.com/video/gSiDOQk1AE0/video.html
Why do you need a patch panel in the first place? Why can't you just connect the Ethernet wire directly into the switch? What benefit does a patch panel provide over connecting directly into a switch?
You don't need a patch panel, actually. You could just crimp RJ-45 connectors on the ends of each cable, and plug those directly into a switch. Normally tho, there WILL be a panel already connected to the wall jacks. And if there isn't, I always install one because a) it makes labeling and keeping track of which cable is which much easier, and b) it separates the in-wall stuff from the out-of-wall stuff. It's like electrical breaker panels: you can do it the quick-and-dirty way (a mess of tangled wires), or you can do it the clean and organized way. At some point down the road, either you or someone else who looks at it and debugs some problem will thank you for it.
Is there any other way to use the phone lines to connect to router?
If they are strictly phone lines, then no. If the phone lines are CAT5 or newer cables, then yes you can use them as ethernet cables. You would just need to put RJ-45 ends on both ends of the cable.
Ethernet to Smartphones?
Doable, but impractical. I believe most Android phones with USB-C ports support ethernet over USB-C adapters. Not sure if there's an equivalent for iPhones.
Are the switches shown in your “building” managed or unmanaged?
Unmanaged. Don't really need more expensive managed switches for a simple home network - unless you want to do some kind of traffic shaping or rate limiting per user or something like that.
I find WiFi much faster than ethernet over power line unless one is on the same electrical circuit.
Any tips for getting the wife off Wifi? XD
I'm for removal Wi-Fi from the houses , businesses , that's the health hazard watch the behavior of the guys who has Wi-Fi in their room
My observation and knowledge exactly. If you connect the dots of radio electronics and cellular medicine the reasons for the hazard appear right in front of you. :)