DOES THE LADY WILL IT? Bretonnia vs Chaos Dwarfs - Total War Warhammer 3

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Komentáře • 145

  • @RedOblivion7
    @RedOblivion7 Před rokem +254

    Bretonnia and normal Dwarfs need some DLC of their own.

    • @unnamedenemy9
      @unnamedenemy9 Před rokem +33

      and Norsca. Counts too, albeit less so

    • @RoulicisThe
      @RoulicisThe Před rokem +31

      The Empire could use something themselves. Not necessary a roster expansion (though it would be really cool to see the regional units come into the game), but more an expansion of their mecanics.

    • @jaxonpecora4271
      @jaxonpecora4271 Před rokem +5

      Dark elves

    • @Lintoon
      @Lintoon Před rokem +16

      I’d say Cathay needs another lord tbh

    • @RoulicisThe
      @RoulicisThe Před rokem +14

      @@jaxonpecora4271 Dark elves only need their "slave mecanics" fixed and refined. After this they'll be in a pretty good spot.

  • @jasmanawsme
    @jasmanawsme Před rokem +17

    9:55 flaming bull chasing the Enchantress reminds me of the last unicorn movie haha

  • @TheDownrankTrain
    @TheDownrankTrain Před rokem +21

    I love the fact that the answer to Chorfs is often units that are rarely used in other machups

    • @ReachStudioPro
      @ReachStudioPro Před rokem +5

      Shaking up the meta. I wonder how it will look when Cathay & Kiselv get expanded. I love the image of monkey warriors running around. It scares me knowing how they are in Sekiro. I always saw them as a joke until that game and I have watched the Monkey Planet movies.

  • @bensnyder4963
    @bensnyder4963 Před rokem +168

    6 year old FLC still crushing it.

  • @snape6141
    @snape6141 Před rokem +12

    "I give my body, heart and soul, to the Lady whom I seek. No plea for help shall find me wanting. No obstacle will stand before me. No evil will taint the lands bequeathed unto me. When the clarion call is sounded, I will ride out and fight in the name of Liege and Lady. That which is sacrament, I shall preserve. That which is sublime, I will protect. That which threatens, I will destroy, for my holy wrath will know no bounds. Honour is all. Chivalry is all. Rejoice, for we, the Knights of Bretonnia... will be your shield."

  • @gingerone11
    @gingerone11 Před rokem +35

    Thought the Brets were done there, but the Lady willed it. GG to you both.

  • @jacobhaddix6812
    @jacobhaddix6812 Před rokem +30

    FOR ZE LADY! I love seeing all of the established factions duking it out with the Chaos Dwarfs.

  • @BloodyBobJr
    @BloodyBobJr Před rokem +16

    Brets are a FLC faction, but it be nice if they got some sorta race mechanic like waaghh and demon globals. Only having 2 hero option (besides felix and gotrex) is kinda sad. Like Skaven have.. 3 mages, chieftain, packmaster, assassin and warlock lol. Not sure what lore wise they have, seen Bretonnian son from a mod. More lores of magic be helpful, only having access too 3 is rough, maybe getting light and shadow.

    • @MadManchou
      @MadManchou Před rokem

      One thing I suggested for Bretonnia's "Battle meter ability"
      --> Charges up by "losing in combat"
      Tier 1 ability : unbreakable (and unkillable?) for some seconds.
      Tier 2 ability : favour of the lady map-wide buff for all knight units
      Tier 3 ability : green knight summon
      In terms of lores of magic, Brets should definitely get access at least to Light (with Fey getting a mix of Light and Life) ; fire, death, metal & shadows don't really seem "in character" for them, though I would love it if they (somehow) got access to High magic
      In terms of a third hero choice, CA (and GW) could literally go so basic as to simply have a Paladin - Sword (anti-inf) and Paladin - Lance (anti-large) ; it would be great if they could get an "ability caster" though (like a Warrior Priest or Patriarch)

  • @Pewling
    @Pewling Před rokem +99

    I always want to root for Bretonnia, they seem to be the faction that got shafted the most, tech wise.

    • @commonpepe2270
      @commonpepe2270 Před rokem +16

      Surely after 6 years Bretonnia doesn't still have to rely on only their base unit roster... right?

    • @lich109
      @lich109 Před rokem +43

      @@commonpepe2270 That's because they were given every tabletop unit in the game from the get-go.

    • @williammitchell6254
      @williammitchell6254 Před rokem +2

      They got decent buffs this patch too.

    • @JakeBaldwin1
      @JakeBaldwin1 Před rokem +18

      I hope they eventually add dismounted knights or some kind of tougher infantry to their faction.
      The hammer currently has a lackluster anvil.

    • @Kvzzzon
      @Kvzzzon Před rokem +3

      @@lich109 I recall them having a "bombard" artillery piece :C

  • @KnightofBretonnia
    @KnightofBretonnia Před rokem +21

    A glorious victory for the Knights of the Realm! The Lady smiles on us this day!

  • @TheSakurambou
    @TheSakurambou Před rokem +5

    Had to check what on the Dawi roster had Immune against Pychology. Units: Longbeards, Slayers (Unbreakable), Bugman's Rangers, Peak Gate Guard and Norgrimlings Ironbreakers. Lords: Ungrim Ironfirst (Unbreakable), Grombrindal (Unbreakable), Runelord (Rune of Hearth & Home) and Thorek Ironbrow (Rune of Hearth & Home). Not sure if it's a lot or a bit lacking in some way but at least with Rune of Hearth & Home you can give all allies within 55m Immune to Psychology.
    Had to check on more thing. Why does the Flame Cannon only have 230 range?!

  • @ThePaleKing89
    @ThePaleKing89 Před rokem +4

    Perhaps the green knight, or grail knights for the magic damage vs astragoth's physical resistance, with a lore of heavens caster with harmonic convergence to seal the deal

  • @LancerKnight00
    @LancerKnight00 Před rokem +5

    Can't wait to see how Wood and Dark Elves do against Chaos Dwarves.

  • @ktvindicare
    @ktvindicare Před rokem +24

    Campaign only players: "You mean the Grail Reliquae isn't just a meme?!" No it's not, when you do not have campaign buffs boosting your worthless infantry, you need to use the actual dedicated support units that were designed for the roster to do it.

    • @semi-useful5178
      @semi-useful5178 Před rokem

      It'd still be nice if it could actually do some damage.

    • @Born2Die_
      @Born2Die_ Před rokem +4

      the problem is not the reliquae its the fact that u can go for the best cav ingame or some GIGA useless pesants... campain is not about value trading its about crushing ur enemy. when the fight is even u did a lot of things poorly in the first place. and thats also the reason why i love mp on yt. all the useless shit i woud never get in campain is awesome when u flip the wincondition.

    • @Born2Die_
      @Born2Die_ Před rokem +9

      @@semi-useful5178 why woud a dead man and 2 pesants do dmg? they dont even have weapons xD they shoud do less than men at arms. :D

    • @semi-useful5178
      @semi-useful5178 Před rokem +2

      @@Born2Die_
      It'd just be nice.

    • @Born2Die_
      @Born2Die_ Před rokem +2

      @@semi-useful5178 you coud mod it and make it 1v1 kholek if u want to :P i have a gobbo shaman that can kill the hole unsiverse if wish to in my own campain. only problem is his mass... he is always flying like shit but that woud not be a problem because the reliquae has no flying animation so its imune :D

  • @ashisunblade
    @ashisunblade Před rokem +15

    Bull Centaurs might be better than Dragon Ogres, but Dragon Ogres are arguably overcosted as it was, so that's not necessarily as big a problem in the greater scope of the game as it seems.

    • @delasvegas9644
      @delasvegas9644 Před rokem +5

      Yeah, I think it's not renders needing a nerf, but dragon ogres needing a buff

    • @leojohn1615
      @leojohn1615 Před rokem +1

      eh should 14500 gold renders really beat 1700 gold skull crushers? or kislev's bears which are basically the main tentpole of their entire faction?

    • @FPSveteran
      @FPSveteran Před rokem +4

      ​@@leojohn1615 since the renders only have 50 armor, yes. The renders should win because they're not a heavy, ARMORED cav unit, just heavy. That's the problem with those match ups, they're not the right match up.

    • @leojohn1615
      @leojohn1615 Před rokem +1

      @@FPSveteran ???? so the anti cav cav from chorfs should be better than the anti cav cav from cav dependant factions like bretonnia kislev and to a lesser exent the empire and khorne????? you act like 50 armour is important but honestly with 25% missile resist and a large HP pool with few models they are not squishy at all

    • @FPSveteran
      @FPSveteran Před rokem +3

      @@leojohn1615 yes, also those cheap, shitty pikemen could do some real work on those 1450 bulls because their armor is shit and it's a solid match up. That's why the cdwarf player tried shooting them off early so he could have the Bulls run free.
      Also, if you've played ogres you'd understand how Bretonnia doesn't have the best cav anymore, even if they are a cav faction.
      Regardless of what faction, match ups are more important, and knowing what's good against what is part of that.

  • @kode66
    @kode66 Před rokem +8

    Hey Turin love the vids. Is there any ETA on when the next blood bowl vid is out? I really love the last ones!

    • @turinRTS
      @turinRTS  Před rokem +6

      Waiting for a patch to add some features!

  • @Binaeroooo77
    @Binaeroooo77 Před rokem +2

    love to see the masterful cavalry movement turning it in your favor

  • @mrbd-zk4jk
    @mrbd-zk4jk Před rokem

    Alberic could be a hidden gem,can give anti large to mounted youmen and has chaff clearing spell with his trident.not bringing infinitry in the begining and capturing with mounted youmen could be good call.and killing heavily armoured dwarfs with royal griffins and questing knights

  • @ethnanboxman
    @ethnanboxman Před rokem +6

    Sheesh, those KotR are easily pulling their weight.

  • @windowlicker2846
    @windowlicker2846 Před rokem +4

    Did the game start with a Chorf Unsummon?

  • @gigabirb
    @gigabirb Před rokem +21

    18:57 POV: You are facing the chaos dwarves with any faction whatsoever

    • @oweneasley2684
      @oweneasley2684 Před rokem

      extremely undertuned

    • @leojohn1615
      @leojohn1615 Před rokem +4

      ??? i've seen plenty of games where the chorfs win turin played this match really well his opponent was pretty much relying on bull centors to be able to crush the bretonnian cav and turin guessed that would be his play and brought all the tools to counter it. if the chorfs still won that would be kinda stupid

  • @kattemallo
    @kattemallo Před rokem +4

    Centaurs seem balanced, speed is a very valuable stat, and they have less of it

  • @waroftherebellion.
    @waroftherebellion. Před rokem +5

    This is the content I'm here for! For the Lady!

  • @blindwoozie
    @blindwoozie Před rokem +2

    who would win?
    Fiery Hell Bull worshipping Dwarfs mutated by Chaos with access to industrial revolution era technology, demons and destructive magic OR some peasants with a farming implements and some hope
    FOR ZE LADY

  • @WPTheRabbitHole
    @WPTheRabbitHole Před rokem +7

    BRETONNIA!!! LET'S GO!

  • @antonionicolaasteyken5900

    CD Chimney hats are just so freaking amazing

  • @crisisgear
    @crisisgear Před rokem +4

    Just sat here thinking if they gave Black Orcs contempt, the greenskins would work properly/ exactly like they did in their last army book which would be grand. Orcs don't care about goblins breaking thanks to expendable and black orcs wouldn't care about goblins or orcs breaking thanks to contempt.

  • @Petterwass
    @Petterwass Před rokem

    I really think that if you unsummon your Lord, you should get the Lord Fled penalty.
    After all, your Lord did run off the battlefield!

  • @KnoxZone
    @KnoxZone Před rokem

    'Goblins fighting shoulder to shoulder with the Dwarfs' Might be the most disgusting thing I have ever heard on this channel. Truly we live in a scary new world.

  • @kroxigordundee7767
    @kroxigordundee7767 Před rokem +1

    How does trebuchet sniping Bull centaurs work ? (a bit like when you would snipe demis vs Empire)

  • @wyattwelton8599
    @wyattwelton8599 Před rokem +1

    love it when bretonnia wins

  • @demondarkin4065
    @demondarkin4065 Před rokem +5

    Im happy Bretonnia is winner. My fav faction. 🙏🙂

  • @Fastwinstondoom
    @Fastwinstondoom Před rokem

    Hey, Turin! Unrelated to this video but did they buff Streltsi? I've seen that mentioned a few times during battles and such, but not heard any details.

    • @lich109
      @lich109 Před rokem +1

      They did, their attacks are fixed so they now fight correctly in melee.

  • @andrzejwilk7316
    @andrzejwilk7316 Před rokem +1

    can anyone tell me: is there a single thing normal dorfs do better than chorfs? because from my perspective it is just an all-around power creep

    • @kallemort
      @kallemort Před rokem +1

      Better infantry in most aspects

    • @DerLoladin
      @DerLoladin Před rokem +2

      Cheaper infantry thats almost as good or better (e.g. slayers), greater variety of ranged weapons, strong stealth and flying options, cheaper anti SEM/arti artillery

    • @greenfox3010
      @greenfox3010 Před rokem +3

      1.better infantry,
      2.cheaper infantry,
      3.better range infantry,
      4.more immune to phy.
      5.Cheaper air options
      6.Cheaper artilery options.
      7.Cheap blasting charges
      8. resistance to spells
      9. More lord options
      10. More great hero options
      11. more stalk options
      there are tons of things they do straight up better and other things that can be argued they do better.

  • @RandomIdiotGS
    @RandomIdiotGS Před rokem

    Seems the opponent decided to commit his Bull Centaurs versus your peasants, got significantly damaged by your Paladins and then got them charged into oblivion. Then later on at the other capture point he made the mistake of leaving them isolated with your own cavalry on standby... easy GG right there.
    I'll repeat my comment from your HE vs Chaos Dwarfs video: factions with fast units are a major problem for CD especially if the CD player spreads out some of their key units too far: they will just get picked off and they are unlikely going to reinforce with new units on time to capitalize on potential gains from a strong early push. Another issue I see is that some CD players think it's smart to leave their artillery/machines unattended when it just makes it very likely for them to get picked off as well. For one I think that most of the artillery/machine units will do better closer to the frontline as they are easier to support/save and if an enemy dives for it, those enemy units can easily get in a pickle between the artillery/machine and frontline CD units.
    In addition, overall I think CD players need to play a bit more conservative with their troops and not commit to/contest multiple capture points early. They need to march on one capture point and focus their artillery/machines and bull centaurs there, get that locked down and then approach the second one as you start summoning some reinforcements. Then if the opponent commits to a fight they could take heavily casualties as the CD units are much more likely to successfully support one another and then a potential lategame charge vs the last capture point may be an option, if needed.
    Lastly, unlike the HE Fireborn pick (which wasn't necessary) going for some heavy cav as Bretonnia makes more sense as you can easily get some peasants to balance the costs and just have the peasants take the charge of stuff like Bull Centaurs, then fix those engagements by countercharging with cavalry (as you did).

  • @jonathankelly4222
    @jonathankelly4222 Před rokem

    Really sad about those Trebs. I really wanted to see the fireglaives get to rip some shots. They got pounded to hell

  • @spiffyracc
    @spiffyracc Před rokem +5

    Would really like to see a ban on the mob lord unsummoning crap. Especially when CA is giving out early access for people to make videos like this.

  • @defranken
    @defranken Před rokem

    Any more COH3 videos or livestreams coming up?

  • @CienCarasWC3
    @CienCarasWC3 Před rokem

    Deathshrieker would have taken care of those trebuchets >.>

  • @icy6281
    @icy6281 Před rokem

    ME BEARD IS GROWIN LARGER THE MORE I SEE THE GOOD ENCHANTRESS

  • @pjadtron9415
    @pjadtron9415 Před rokem

    Not sure what it is Turin but everytime you fight Subutai you utterly crush him 90% of the time, wouldn't mind games which are on edge or more games where you lose since I find that far more entertaining. This is just my opinion though, I mean no foul play.

  • @Granzteelvids
    @Granzteelvids Před rokem +1

    For the lady!

  • @AverySadBear
    @AverySadBear Před rokem +1

    I really feel like the rocket would be a great pick against Bret.

    • @lich109
      @lich109 Před rokem

      I don't think so. The Magma Cannons are better at shooting regular units in general and the rocket struggles to hit non-monsters with high movement.

    • @DerLoladin
      @DerLoladin Před rokem

      None of the things from Bretonnia are big and slow enough for it and the "spreadshot" mode is very underwhelming.

  • @michaelmurray616
    @michaelmurray616 Před rokem

    Turin, will you be playing a Chorfs camapign?

  • @kattemallo
    @kattemallo Před rokem

    The algorithm wills it!

  • @DaciaJC
    @DaciaJC Před rokem

    Domina vult! The Lady wills it!

  • @shawnberry760
    @shawnberry760 Před rokem

    Another great video!

  • @dankolevente
    @dankolevente Před rokem +2

    Hey Turin, sorry if this has already been addressed before, but could you maybe do something with the constant echo? Always loved to have your TWWH2 tourneys on my second screen, but the sound issue is a bit of a turn off imo

  • @paulkersey3042
    @paulkersey3042 Před rokem +1

    I keep hearing people say Chaos Dwarfs are good and yet I think I've only seen them win one of these matches.

  • @Anvilarm07
    @Anvilarm07 Před rokem

    Beatiful to see ,y Bretonnians winning against the new guys.

  • @7337simi
    @7337simi Před rokem

    She does.

  • @abefosson9540
    @abefosson9540 Před rokem

    yep bretonnia my fav faction are just so week cav faction without the strongest cav in the game

  • @happydisaster6703
    @happydisaster6703 Před rokem

    How many bull centaurs did Subutai bring? Damn

    • @DerLoladin
      @DerLoladin Před rokem

      2x Great Weapons, 1x RoR
      Similar setup to Beastman players and minotaurs when facing Bretonnia

  • @FredericoASousa
    @FredericoASousa Před rokem

    Chaos dwarves are so fun to watch

  • @handleonafridge6828
    @handleonafridge6828 Před rokem

    Last time I was this early I said “last time is was this early I was this early”

  • @MonCompteTubulaire
    @MonCompteTubulaire Před rokem

    thanks for your vid :)

  • @heitorh.v5581
    @heitorh.v5581 Před rokem

    When is next faction war happening?

  • @user-eo1cs9xs8v
    @user-eo1cs9xs8v Před rokem

    FOR THE LADY!

  • @karatekan2182
    @karatekan2182 Před rokem

    I think Bull Centaurs are balanced on a purely competitive level, but I don't like the way they have been implemented. I would gladly trade the crazy offensive stats for cool Chaos Dwarf barding

    • @turinRTS
      @turinRTS  Před rokem +4

      They are borderline OP, but hard to tell with so few games!

    • @FPSveteran
      @FPSveteran Před rokem

      Had the GW Bulls been in the starting army over the infernal ironsworn, this would've gone in the cdwarf player, assuming they went aggressive.

  • @Aayren
    @Aayren Před rokem

    Should we make some rule to bring lords as a lords? It is an exploit, why we not banning that?

  • @jonasschiffers2850
    @jonasschiffers2850 Před rokem +1

    Why doesnt CA give all the newest DLC Units 20% Ward save would be easier to rebalance when the next dlc comes out

  • @ethnanboxman
    @ethnanboxman Před rokem

    HASHUT HASHUT HASHUT

  • @poetrollem326
    @poetrollem326 Před rokem

    FOR ZE LADY

  • @Megamino07
    @Megamino07 Před rokem

    For ze lady

  • @DustKingArchives
    @DustKingArchives Před rokem

    Pop filter?

  • @Dramn_
    @Dramn_ Před rokem

    CZcams Algorithm

  • @stevenrizzo6221
    @stevenrizzo6221 Před rokem

    I miss your land battles.

  • @morgothbauglir8706
    @morgothbauglir8706 Před rokem +1

    too many chaos dwarfs im already bored watching or even thinking about playing them

  • @Zyrachiel
    @Zyrachiel Před rokem +1

    I feel burned out on chaos dwarves and they're not even out.

    • @phaeron2450
      @phaeron2450 Před rokem +3

      So, you were hoping for another slanesh type faction?
      I've seen and heard. you can make them quite broken, in campaign while playing them. Not on their own, when controlled by the AI.

  • @Quadnt
    @Quadnt Před rokem

    i have the Feeling that the Chaos Dwarfs are really weak. They have two good units and the rest is useless or just Medium.

    • @turinRTS
      @turinRTS  Před rokem +4

      They are not! They will be extremely strong, trust me!

    • @callumcochrane7759
      @callumcochrane7759 Před rokem +2

      Magma cannons, bull centaurs and Astrogoth are OP. Gordo is in the ballpark since he just doesn't seem to be killable.
      The Ironglaives are ap missiles that can't really be shut down by cav with their anti large, Ironsworn are basically Ironbreakers but have ap grenades, main cd warriors are somewhere between D warriors and Longbeards.
      All the hobgoblin units are much better than you'd expect and wolf riders are like budget Elyrian Reavers.
      The whole roster is pretty solid imo

    • @DerLoladin
      @DerLoladin Před rokem +3

      @@callumcochrane7759 Their whole roster is also extremely expensive and highly susceptible to magic or artillery. Ironglaves and Ironsworn get absoloutely demolished and cost a ridiculous amount. Hobgoblins suffer from leadership issues and are also pretty expensive for Goblin units.
      Only time will tell how strong they really are.

  • @gannonpatton2858
    @gannonpatton2858 Před rokem +1

    The Chaos Dwarfs look increasingly disappointing for multi-player. Their campaign looks incredible, at least.

    • @dklegend1152
      @dklegend1152 Před rokem +20

      I feel every opinion of CD I’ve heard is quite the opposite, even from Turin. I guess if you want a slaanesh type faction that just rolls every other faction then sure CD is quite disappointing. However Turin himself has said they usually go 50/50 in most matchups he’s seen and that’s a really good place for a faction to sit in terms of multiplayer. I’m glad they seem well balanced with strengths and weaknesses and not just the usual power creep nonsense that just rolls other factions. Just my take though.

    • @handleonafridge6828
      @handleonafridge6828 Před rokem +10

      @@dklegend1152 I agree with this completely, Chaos dwarfs seem like they’re ready to be a very balanced faction. Really just coming down to the build and skill of the player to determine their victories.

    • @DALKurumiTokisaki
      @DALKurumiTokisaki Před rokem +5

      It's been 50/50 with people calling them weak or people calling them OP which is honestly a good sign that their fairly balanced.