Why 2JZ blow up in Formula D, how to solve that.
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2021
- In this video we ask @raddandrift what makes his Supra reliable, and why do other Formula D 2JZ blow up?! The 2JZ is known for being stupid reliable, but there are also teams within Formula Drift that have blown half a dozen motors within a few months inside the series. I thought it would be super neat to cover the subject. We at some point in this series talk about the best place to stop for useable horse power, which he thinks is SPOILER ALERT, somewhere around 800 to have a useable fun power band. We talk about oiling systems for the JZ motors, stroker motors, why the 3.0 is better than the 3.4 and 3.6 displacements, and all kins of stuff. It isn't every day that you get to get inside the head of someone that has so much experience within the automotive industry, so I really appreciate dan taking the time to share things with us! Check out his CZcams channel at @RADIndustries and tell him hi in the comments!!!
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This video really opened my eyes on Rad Dan. He's very humble and knowledgable
i'm so happy Aaron is doing these with him, i don't think he gets anywhere close to the respect he deserves
If you get a chance to go to a fd engine, talk to him in the pits. He’s a awesome guy.
could not have said it better!
Dan is one of the few people that you see on CZcams that is exactly the same way in front of your face. He’s always willing to engage with fans and to the level you choose when you open your mouth.
the peoples champ
So true! Same with Mike essa! Mike legit sat there fir like 45 minutes talking bmws and drifting with me
Can you do like 13 more videos with Dan.
I don't think i would ever own a 2jz but it's so fun to listen to him talk about them.
Check out Dan's Channel
Yeah check out Dan's channel!
@@LoneStarDrift i follow his channel as well, but your interviews are great, you usually ask the hard questions and pull out the behind the scenes stuff like what you asked in this video "who blew up engines and why"
Cant beat the jz, but believe it or not around 70% of the cars in D1NZ are RB powered & you almost never see an engine fail during competition 👍
The whole “rb’s are unreliable” stipulation is honestly due to people here in the states cheating out on parts and just lack of knowledge. Down under they’ve got a much better amount of parts and knowledge. Look at Jake drift squid. His s13 had a near stock neo in it for years and he never blew it
@L W I was about to say that , literally rbs are a little complicated to us bc we don’t have that much experience with them compared to the rest of the world
Probably because the drift RB’s have mechanical pumps and dry sumps …these dudes are slapping turbo kits on and hitting the top level of competitors
@@Boostlifelex yeahhhhhh....name one jz car in pro drifting that’s just a “turbo kit” lmao rb or jz, they’re all built ass expensive engines
@@zerohourdrift the guy in the video just literally said just that. They are slapping turbo kits on it that's why they are blowing up...did you not watch the video??
Wow, first Rad Dan interview I’ve watched before. I am blown away how knowledgeable yet humble Dan is. Goals.
Some way he gives off a more janky vibe. But this definitely guy knows his stuff
Dude, i could listen to him for hours and not get bored. Such a chill dude.
Basically oil starvation and revving it too high.
Thank you for the cliff notes
Honestly him comparing the 7M to the RB made my year. I am building a 12:1 7MGE Supra Mk3 for drifting. I already know the fun oil and HG issues, but 7M's are starting to become popular again and I prefer to have pure-bred Supra Mk3 as well.
Everyone I’ve seen thrash a 7M has blown a head gasket! Is that due to oiling or something else?
@@jayveethreefive5214 They learned a lot of lessons on the 7M and used those to build the 2JZ, which solved pretty much everything you would need to fix about the 7M.
@@jayveethreefive5214 it’s due to wrong torque spec on head bolts from factory and shitty gaskets. Also the oil pump does need a couple upgrades to be efficient. Once you add upgraded oil pressure relief spring, less restrictive oil line, MLS head gasket and ARP head studs you’re pretty solid.
I love how happy Dan was thinking about possibly exploding a block. 🤘
This has been my favorite interview on the channel so far, so much information packed in that time, didn’t even feel like 17min. I wanted it to be longer. Rad Dan is Rad.
I wonder what his thoughts are on the SR lol
I have a bunch of Rad Dan videos in the channel, and at least one or two I filmed that I still need to release. Thanks for watching! And thanks to Dan for taking the time to chat with us!
It's not negative if it's helpful to others, They lived through the experience the least we can do is learn from that.
Excellent Video! Great talk guys.
Toyota had help from a motorcycle engine manufacturer. And motorcycle engines are known to live happily in the high rpms reliably. Much like what honda has done for their engines.
Yamaha didn't help with the 2jz only the 1jz
@@clonecaptian They did with the 2J as well
@@clonecaptian also the 3S-GTE head design.
such an amazing talk w dan. so insightful
Knowledge is Power.... Thanks Rad industries glad I found this video.💯🏁🏁🏁👍
its always great to listen to someone that has so much knowledge about something
Rad Dan is one of the most underrated in FD. Jack of all trades being a owner operator and driver. I meet him at Vegas Drift one time. Humble dude.
Guys, thank you both for the great content!
I never thought of drysupm vs back or front one in this way. Great I do have e36 with back one :)
I enjoyed this more than I thought I would.
Facts
Yo Gary watching CZcams like us 😎💪🏿
You know someone knows their shit when they use complex hand movements. 10/10
Dan is rad, I wish he could more seat time.
By far my favourite episode! That immense knowledge. Love him, wish he has more skills tho, hope he gets some podiums.
Just found this, super cool video. Thanks for putting it together.
Awesome video! Rad Dan you the man! Thank you!
Thanks Dan, bringing some light to the massive flow of car fans making the market go crazy!
James Deane said you don't need a oil catch can if your 2JZ is built right.
I've always loved rad Dan. Under the radar legend
Rad Dan is such a awesome dude. He knows the JZ motors inside and out
so rad thanks for making this
thanks for this I learned a lots of things
love the tech talks
I've always loved a built high reving 3.0 2JZ. Obviously better power with 3.4 but nowhere near as good sound wise as the stock 3.0.
Dan being SO NICE about the RBs that face lmfao
I’m sure this is mentioned somewhere in the video and I just missed it but Rad Dan doesn’t just rev his engines lower but also he used to not run VVT so even if the rev limit was high it makes no power up there so would never be banging off the rev limiter
That was cool as hell. Its a good ? if some stuff is engineered and has full understanding prior of how good or bad it will be. So much goes into that, but a little luck for sure.
LZ Grenada’s like 4 or 5 last year and melted a piston this year. Also in prospec Ricky Hoffmann blew a piston out the block this year, which was strange
More please !!!
Gas racing in Australia exploded a block, took 70psi to do it…I had a r32 GTR, the RB was a pain… once you get around 600hp you start having drama… even the blocks can crack at 6-800hp… they suffer from key walk and need the crack modded and heaps of other stuff… I did cam, turbo and fuel mine made 700whp on a 6466 on my 2j
The filming and production quality on these last few videos is a huge step-up. What did you guys do?
Damn Danel back at it again with the 2jz 🛼
Mike Deane, James’ brother is responsible for the reliability. I’d very much put that down the the families rallying history.
Lol when he compared the RB to a 7M 😂😂
im convinced rad dan is the reason my rb hasn't knocked yet. rear sump, external head drain, conservative tune.
Very intesrting can you doo a video for SR20DET problème what too doo witch part we need or not etc ?
More than half the D1gp field run 2JZ strokers, 3.6 liter on huge turbo etc crazy setups. I dont think I recall a single one blowing up all season. Its all about sticking to engines you know.
2.09 lol I've got experience in that using old oil coolers again you can do it but needs to be stripped back thermostats removed
Underrated engine M104
Make the same power with stock pistons
Ryan T had machine issues , they had line bored the main caps off. Also having the cars strung out that far i doubt many teams have engine protection enabled like hard or soft cut to save the engine
7M=RB! 😂😂😂 Love it!!! Also, so the 2JZGTE takes 5.3 quarts of oil, will adding 6 even quarts hurt anything?
My buddy has a 2JZ driftcar with all stock 2jzgte with single turbo conversion, E85. Has ran for 10 years now xD
Rad Dan & 2JZ FTW!
I literraly wanted to say near very end, that you should ask about Adam's engines :D And boom. Adam was iron block 3,4 with wet sump and as I good remember he was not revving very high, but fast Dan's answer with front sump explains a lot....and overall, Worthouse engines in Peter's car were not so reliable as many think ;)
I was wondering why my turbo sc300 felt so solid rear sump jz ftw!
It’s so interesting hearing about how formula D cars a built
LOL ive done the gear oil trick once just to get me home from the track back in 2011
First time I've heard the RB compared to a 7M 😂
more dan content :)
Ryan literal punching the air right now
Why? Cuz Literal is an RB guy? and he wants to try a different inline six?
🤣😂🤣😂
@@aftrnoon_ac I am a rb/Nissan fan (fav motor ca18det), but if u ever seen a Ryan insta post or whatever, he will fight til his death if u say that a jz is better then a rb lol.
Gotta love jz's
Inspirational, I’m not even a JZ guy but love hearing his perspective on his approach!
dry sump is always the answer
Make a ls version of this video, would be helpful!!!!!
An interview with Kyle Mohan on why he still runs a 3rotor would be interesting too
I already have it in the channel! Search for rotary or Kyle Mohan in here
Do the sr20 next!
Let's juice this down. Bottom line when you spend money on a big boi car dont cheap out. Just get a dry sump.
Common Sense goes a long way. This is why Dan is Rad.
The only 2jz master is Jay from Real Street Performance
Jay the 2jz god🔥
Rad Dan is the best!
So regarding the front oil sump swaps like the Cressida and 240 and others chassis that require a front oil sump at what horse power would you recommend adding extra oil if we don’t run an external oil pump?
Extra oil and a good baffle system in the sump go a long way
Good morning boys Hope y'all have a good one!
That can be applied to all vehicles/motors.
Can you do one on sr or ka
The 2jz is modeled off the 7m..the 7m had teething issues but with the right mods it can be rreliable
Then there is guys like Taylor ray who just splash on the dry sump right away and don’t really have any issues at all
U forgot to ask him about TJ's RB. :)
hey what turbo ist good for drift and what AR on turbo is good? (0,84ar oder 1,00 ar?)
grats from germany
Almost at 100k!!!! Wahoo! Praise the Lord!!
Big sook litteral enters the chat...
James deanes brother built the workhouse engines and all of James motors and he very rarely has motor issues
Dan is a mullet rocking goon, but he's actually a logical guy and thats cool as fuck.
Does anybody know if a stroker can be run to higher rpms if it’s in a billet block?
Tuerk feels exposed lol
Dans the man.
my rb20 lasted 10 years drifting at 400 hp. did 8-12 events a year
How did you get an RB20 over 400 WHP? I don't think I have ever seen anyone do that in person, but I have heard about it online, sounds interesting!
Barra is king
James deanes brother Mike built the 2jz engines. And both the fd cars have the same engine as when built. In a video in his channel you can see the internals were mint after much abuse. James deanes first proper competition car his rx7 won championships all over the world with the factory rotary still in her today. You should come to Ireland for drift masters round 1. Plenty of videos to be made there for you
10:38 do you have shimless buckets from hilux?
"If you don't know, now you know"
Moral of the story: keep your oil level in check.
What year did Ryan blow 3 motors at Irwindale
The myth the man the legend and god of the 2j.
Jay from Real St. Is the 2j god imo.
@@madkas14 I agree I also watch all his stuff and learn from him they are gods of the 2j.
Does anyone know if an aftermarket oil pan baffle will help the possible starvation on front sump oil pans? Or are they a gimmick?
A well designed gated / baffled sump will help 100%. It may keep oil at the pickup just long enough to save the engine
Soo uhm, what about 1Js? As someone who is in the midst of building theirs Id love some of this deep info to know if theres anything I could do different while Im tearing at it
I fit 7.5Q in my 1uz
If Dan wants to stop having head problems maybe he should buy an rb haha rb26dett was designed for motorsport were power levels were more modest even toyota didn't use the 2jz in racing as it was to heavy for the power levels required
Rad Dan’s awfully rad
yamaha desing the head for 1jz toyota copie dat and put their touch to it there was the 2jz we all love!!!
Worthouse guys run Tomei baffle pan setup in their frontsump! :-)
Dont they run dry sump?
I thought they ran dry sump setups?
Says they run dry sump with a custom pan?
motoiq.com/pinnacle-of-charm-james-deanes-worthouse-drift-falken-tire-nissan-s15/2/
@@PSTS636 he said he never spun a bearing or popped a piston. For sure stated he popped cam buckets.
@@LoneStarDrift ah sorry buddy, i just know james dean runs baffle kit in his new aimsoil s14 👍👍
At the end of the video, Dan mentions that he knows the motor isn't the best in the series, but it's the motor that came in his car and he really likes to keep it pure bred. Is he referring to his motor not being the best of the JZ series of motors because he uses the Non VVTi 2JZ-GTE that came in the supra vs a VVTi 2JZ-GTE out of an Arristo or is he saying the 2JZ isn't the best motor in FD and there other motors that are better like an LS?
From the context it sounds like hes talking within the JZ line, because the interviewer asked if hes making any changes to his JZ setup specifically in the question. Could be wrong though
Would you run an RB for formula D?
GOD no i would quit. LMFAO