X-Men 97 and Invincible are Special

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    #XMEN97 #invincible #invincibleseason3
    Today's video takes a look at the two current heavyweight champions of comic book animation, Invincible and X-Men 97 . These two shows are incredibly faithful to the source material and feature top knotch animation, but today we review why they are authentic.
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  • @lukaslambs5780
    @lukaslambs5780 Před měsícem +314

    Invincible proved to me it wasn’t superhero fatigue, it was bad story fatigue.

    • @GenJuhru
      @GenJuhru Před měsícem +21

      The Boys did it for me.

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 Před 29 dny

      SO TRUE!!! Marvel could still be making a killing if they would stop pandering to people who don’t care for comics, and start pandering to people who do.

    • @highdefinition450
      @highdefinition450 Před 24 dny +11

      how did you not realize this sooner lol

    • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
      @cassiedevereaux-smith3890 Před 9 dny +2

      ​@@highdefinition450Fish don't notice the water?

    • @kyletaggart
      @kyletaggart Před 3 dny

      pin this comment

  • @redhood1997
    @redhood1997 Před měsícem +524

    x men 97 is the best marvel show in a long time 🔥🔥

    • @TerrellAmari
      @TerrellAmari Před měsícem +12

      FACTS!!!

    • @Gemoroda
      @Gemoroda Před měsícem +4

      @@TerrellAmari AAAAAA? remember invincible.

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa Před měsícem +38

      It might be the best Marvel product ever produced

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +17

      Im really enjoying it. I hope it keeps up the pace.

    • @jaylenjayden9305
      @jaylenjayden9305 Před měsícem +1

      Fax

  • @ADEVOD
    @ADEVOD Před měsícem +347

    They really gave gambit a top 5 character moment of the year

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +47

      “…Remember the name!”

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz Před měsícem +1

      EXCELLENT WORK. KEY 🗝 ISSUES

    • @returnedtomonkey8886
      @returnedtomonkey8886 Před měsícem +11

      ​@@KeyIssues The name's Gambit, mon ami... Remember it.

    • @sosacooper6098
      @sosacooper6098 Před měsícem +5

      His constant flirting was always top 5 moments in the original that shit was memorable 😂

    • @victorbui6341
      @victorbui6341 Před měsícem +4

      @@KeyIssuesim not over it. I saw the episode this past Friday. Im not over it 🥺

  • @ericschuller908
    @ericschuller908 Před měsícem +189

    I was never Scott's biggest fan when I was a kid. But between X-Men 97 and the Earth-27M project, he's quickly become a favorite.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +8

      You’re allowed to join the club

    • @kadegetslaid634
      @kadegetslaid634 Před měsícem +6

      FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO KNOWS ABOUT EARTH-27M, LOVE THAT PROJECT!!!

    • @ericschuller908
      @ericschuller908 Před měsícem +1

      @@kadegetslaid634 I love it. More people need to join the fandom.

    • @kadegetslaid634
      @kadegetslaid634 Před měsícem +1

      @ericschuller908 honestly 100 percent, it's such a niche thing that needs to be bigger

    • @ericschuller908
      @ericschuller908 Před měsícem

      @kadegetslaid634 if I had my way, Roy would have an entire studio's worth of resources to bring his work to life.

  • @mrbransformer4184
    @mrbransformer4184 Před měsícem +113

    It is nice to see Cyclops finally be treated right. Not just used as a villain.

    • @ZakynthosDiamandis
      @ZakynthosDiamandis Před měsícem +4

      I know people are raving about Cyclops now... but a villian? Nah. Did you watch the original show? The most villainous thing he did was the interview in episode 5 of the new show. Very out of character.

    • @syrup8790
      @syrup8790 Před měsícem +5

      @@ZakynthosDiamandis its not that out of character if you've been watching 97 it made sense for him to lose his cool.

    • @ZakynthosDiamandis
      @ZakynthosDiamandis Před měsícem +1

      @@syrup8790 I know it made sense. I'm not criticising the show at all. It was demonstrating how far he has been pushed. It was still shocking from such a typically heroic character hence my use of the phrase. I actually thought he may be being mind controlled at first.

    • @syrup8790
      @syrup8790 Před měsícem

      @@ZakynthosDiamandis ohhh, my bad then I just miss understood what you meant

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 Před měsícem

      @@ZakynthosDiamandis it’s because of miscorrelation with comic Cyclops who is objectively not a good person after all he’s done. Like he abandoned his wife and child in the comics instead of it being a more complicated situation
      He also turned full villain for awhile

  • @DanielHernandez-gx4kh
    @DanielHernandez-gx4kh Před měsícem +108

    Yall never watched xmen evolution. Cyclops was a menace in that show

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +11

      I actually admit I have not. Should I though?

    • @DanielHernandez-gx4kh
      @DanielHernandez-gx4kh Před měsícem +41

      @@KeyIssues you should! They give mad respect to my man Cyclops and Jean. (Unlike the 90’s version where Jean just moaned and fainted like 90% of the time)

    • @jaylenjayden9305
      @jaylenjayden9305 Před měsícem +2

      @@KeyIssuesyes

    • @josesarango3408
      @josesarango3408 Před měsícem +9

      X-men Evolution is great. Actually there's not a bad X-men cartoon, fortunately

    • @mhawang8204
      @mhawang8204 Před měsícem +11

      @@DanielHernandez-gx4kh second this. Scott and Jean were the biggest improvement in Evolution. Kitty was a highlight, too. Love her driving lesson episode with Logan.😂 The show also gave us X-23, and I’m forever grateful for that ❤

  • @allways8782
    @allways8782 Před měsícem +58

    I Love invincible! I never heard of it before the TV show. Season 1 became one of my favorite shows of all time. Like comfort food, I can tune into anytime during any episode and just let it play.🔥

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +11

      This is what i love to hear. Thats how new fans are made. They hit it out of the park.

    • @bigpoppa3999
      @bigpoppa3999 Před měsícem +5

      Invincible is my favorite superhero comic. The story is that good. Season 3 will be absolutely brutal for mark. Yes even more than before.

    • @joshdunne8792
      @joshdunne8792 Před měsícem

      Same here! You took the words right out of my mouth. I've watched season 1 every time i have a gap in content. I finish a big show like the walking dead and don't know what to watch next?: invincible!

  • @jb-dn5fy
    @jb-dn5fy Před měsícem +21

    Calling Wolverine “the short thick boy” is crazy😂

  • @waynebrowne1063
    @waynebrowne1063 Před měsícem +19

    Gambit has always been my favorite. Glad this series is letting him get his time in the spotlight.

  • @paperknigth2263
    @paperknigth2263 Před měsícem +21

    I'm just grateful that they continue to invest in such high-quality animated series (beyond anime).

    • @maxh276
      @maxh276 Před 17 dny

      And adult animation at that! It’s about damn time.

  • @TheLongWind
    @TheLongWind Před měsícem +11

    Invincible, X-Men97, Cobra Kai and The Boys are heaven to my born in 84 soul.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Před 16 dny

      I can definitely see some of that.

  • @XanBcoo
    @XanBcoo Před měsícem +65

    The first season of Invincible turned me into a fan. I bought the first compendium and I'm getting the second next paycheck. Season 2 was genuinely amazing in my opinion, in a way that's improved on what I've seen in the comic. It feels like a second draft and I've loved how character focused it's been

    • @madelinegrc
      @madelinegrc Před měsícem +3

      I just finished compendium vol 2, it’s definitely a mature step up. I loved it.

    • @zb3576
      @zb3576 Před 16 dny

      @XanBcoo pretty sure Robert himself said that the animated invincible is a second draft for the story to improve upon things he felt were rushed

    • @madelinegrc
      @madelinegrc Před 16 dny

      @@zb3576 interesting!!! I can definitely see them doing that

    • @tylersanders2388
      @tylersanders2388 Před 4 dny

      It was worse for me- when I finished season 1 I bought all 3 compendiums and binged them and then reread them again after season 2

  • @NiteOwl2000
    @NiteOwl2000 Před měsícem +77

    I was literally thinking about this during *that part* in episode 5. I’d actually argue that X-men 97 is outperforming this season of Invincible.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +23

      They are both awesome, i really enjoyed Season 2 of invincible. Next season is gonna be CRAZY

    • @andyandie8604
      @andyandie8604 Před měsícem +20

      Unlike Invincible, X-Men 97 animators take no shortcuts. I don't think I've ever seen animation this consistently great from any other show or movie before, and the style is so distinct it feels really fresh. So I'd say X-Men 97 is definitely outperforming Invincible.

    • @Wesker47584
      @Wesker47584 Před měsícem +7

      ⁠@@andyandie8604 I would agree X-Men is definitely constant in quality and I would say is out preforming Invincible but both are definitely peak

    • @tobiaslawrence8928
      @tobiaslawrence8928 Před měsícem +4

      I really enjoy the animation from x-men 97 series than invincible right now. You can tell the people that made it really cared about the quality of this show. But from a writing standpoint they both are equal in quality.

    • @fun-with-purpose1436
      @fun-with-purpose1436 Před měsícem

      @@KeyIssuesseason 2’s pacing, story and animation took a big dip compared to season 1. The finale with mark and eve on the bridge… their faces were looking kinda stretched

  • @kingismylastname9685
    @kingismylastname9685 Před měsícem +19

    Really great video hope in the future we get more tv shows like X-Men 97 and Invincible.

  • @zachanikwano
    @zachanikwano Před měsícem +26

    For real though, I read ( -watched on youtube lol- ) the entire Invincible comic and I LOVE IT. Love contained stories that only have time travel and alternate dimensions as flavor enhancements to the main story without derailing it.
    Beginning, middle and end. Compelling writing and great characters. 🥰🥰

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +2

      X-men and time travel, name a more iconic duo

  • @LilGreasyAndEm
    @LilGreasyAndEm Před měsícem +23

    Nah these shows are crazy 🔥🔥

  • @UrsusObesus
    @UrsusObesus Před měsícem +7

    I've been saying the exact same thing for years. I've never understood why Hollywood decided to do movies about comic books and use the names of stories but not the actual story from the Comic. They adapt books very closely to the actual book but comics are pretty much in name only.

  • @marcosirsav3860
    @marcosirsav3860 Před měsícem +14

    I while heartily apologize for hating cyclops before now 🤣

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +3

      I forgive you, welcome back

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer7697 Před měsícem +5

    Cyclops has always been my favorite X-Men and I'm glad I lived to see the day where my boy is finally getting the respect he deserves! 🙌🏽 X-Men 97 has been incredible so far I can't wait to see the rest of the season! Especially the 3-part finale!

  • @JS-ct3kr
    @JS-ct3kr Před měsícem +4

    I never gravitated towards the leader/boy scout type characters when I was a kid. Loved Batman instead of Superman, Raph instead of Leo, Wolverine over Cyke, etc. I've definitely grown to appreciate Scott over the years in the comics and his treatment in 97 only solidified my growing love of the character.

  • @wallygator92
    @wallygator92 Před měsícem +8

    I hope they make a revival of Spider-Man, the animated series just like X-Men 97 it ended on a cliffhanger, and I would also like to see a Judge Dredd adult animated series just like Invincible.

    • @blueriversrapper
      @blueriversrapper Před 7 dny

      If we ask for too much itll end up like the live action mcu

  • @li-limandragon9287
    @li-limandragon9287 Před měsícem +65

    I’m so glad Marvel animated is destroying it nowadays, DC fans were too smug for too long.

    • @NiteOwl2000
      @NiteOwl2000 Před měsícem +10

      Yeah ngl being a DC fan is pain rn. Once James Gunn gets their shit together in the live action dept. it’s game over tho 🤷‍♂️

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa Před měsícem +4

      I hope Marvel can keep this up because the DCU is launching soon and it feels like an eter6aince both companies had great animation at the same time

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +27

      There is room for both fandoms. We can all love marvel and dc together

    • @jaylenjayden9305
      @jaylenjayden9305 Před měsícem +1

      Fr😂

    • @Bidenmytime
      @Bidenmytime Před měsícem +3

      ​@NiteOwl2000 lol His first movie is looking like a cluster ... everyone and their mom is in it and I cant see any character getting enough time to shine ..
      WB has made very bad choices always

  • @islemisawesome6145
    @islemisawesome6145 Před měsícem

    Great video bro the comedy in your dialogue is great made me crack up

  • @francescozenocchini4428
    @francescozenocchini4428 Před měsícem +10

    I really want an Astro City animated show in the same style as Invincible. I think that would be great.

  • @baligong3592
    @baligong3592 Před měsícem +1

    Thing about this is Comic Book characters from DC & MARVEL that existed for so long. There's countless of retcons and how a character is written in 1 era won't be the same in another era, due to countless of writers writing them differently. Example:
    - If you read Batman in the Silver Age, he's a goofy Character who would do the most wackiest things, like fighting a Monster who turned him into Paper, or that time Robin had to baby sit Batman as a Baby.
    - If you read Batman in the 90s/2000s, he's more to being a Detective trying to find criminals and running into Corruption.
    - if you read Batman nowadays, you can get a range from Family Adventure, or absolute Mayhem where he's Fighting everyone on sight.
    I'll also add: what makes making a Story/adaptation of a Character to big screen great, is the fact that because the story hasn't been rehashed, you can read something New if you want more. Or something great can come out of whatever they "adapted" and can potentially supercede the original work! Example:
    - reading the Original Spider-verse comic from 2014, you can realise that compared to the 2018 version, they gave so much significance to Miles and Gwen, despite the fact that both characters aren't that significant in the original comics.
    - Had the Movie adapted the Original Story, it'll be more like a Multiversal War with Spider-Man characters, with the biggest characters being Otto Octavius, Peter Parker, Cindy Moon, Miguel O'Hara.
    In my opinion, what makes adaptations good isn't necessarily because they copied the original series page by page. Rathermore they understood the characters, and their story and used it as a Blueprint to create a new story with the characters we know and love.
    If it were to be the former, series like: Spectacular Spider-Man, everything DCAU, Teen Titans, etc. would NOT be loved by so many.

  • @Bloodlit
    @Bloodlit Před 2 dny

    being older than google , I remember waking up on Saturday mornings and running to my TV to watch X-Men, Spiderman, and handful of other awesome shows.

  • @UsamaAhmad
    @UsamaAhmad Před 20 dny

    Your point at around 6:00 that the Xmen cartoon series was your introduction to this world is so right. I could not get comic books but having that Fox series, and occasional comics, or books from the library, were my way to read them. I'm so grateful that those writers in the OG series did what they did and stayed true to the characters given all the constraints they had.

  • @toney001
    @toney001 Před 24 dny +1

    I'm loving X-Men '97, but that's not surprising since I grew up with the original, and the Claremont run. Invincible is what blew my mind. I loved S1 and the wait for S2 was excruciating so, after S2 ended, I decided to buy it all and OH MY GOD. I could not stop reading. I devoured the 25 TPBs in a week. It's one of the best things I've ever read in my life, and I'm 39 years old. I've read a lot.

  • @PaulGuy
    @PaulGuy Před měsícem +1

    The part that always amazes me is how Hollywood will buy a property to adapt, then entirely ignore the stories and characters that made the property worth optioning in the first place. Then they're surprised when no one cares about it. A perfect example is the Halo show vs the Fallout show.

  • @Mythic_Zach
    @Mythic_Zach Před měsícem +3

    I almost completely agree with your point about authenticity. I'm the biggest Superman fan I know, and even I'll tell you the character needs some adaptation. For example, whether he's holding back or not, there is NO reason anyone lacking Super-Speed should ever be able to even so much as touch him, and yet it happens all the time. I've heard every excuse, and none of them are good enough.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +1

      It’s hard for us Superman fans… our favorite character has every power

    • @Mythic_Zach
      @Mythic_Zach Před měsícem +1

      @KeyIssues I wish Kryptonians felt more like Viltrumites. When the Vils show up, everything turns dead-serious and you're suddenly in fear for absolutely everyone. Kryptonians should be that times 10, and yet I've never been as scared when Zod shows up as I am when any random Vil does.

    • @quantumvideoscz2052
      @quantumvideoscz2052 Před měsícem +1

      @@Mythic_Zach It's because DC needs to keep a status quo and can't just have Zod killing some important characters we care about. Invincible is like manga - one story from beginning to the end in comic form. This frees it up to allow for lasting consequences of the fights etc.

    • @Mythic_Zach
      @Mythic_Zach Před měsícem +1

      @@quantumvideoscz2052 I never said I didn't know that. I just said it's freaking lame! 😂

  • @jerrybruce7347
    @jerrybruce7347 Před měsícem +2

    These are the only two comic shows I’m loving

  • @malcolmchashi6783
    @malcolmchashi6783 Před 13 dny

    Really good video man.

  • @skiddyskiddz2
    @skiddyskiddz2 Před měsícem +3

    It’s refreshing seeing a video prop up two projects people like instead of bringing one down for the other. They’re both great in their own right.
    Fyi: I’ve always been team cyke and I’m glad they’ve adapted him right, I’d even say his character is better adapted in ‘97 than TAS

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +2

      We try to be mostly positive, there are a million grifter youtubers who produce nothing but hate-bait. They don’t realize that their constant complaining is pushing fans out of comics bc they’re being brainwashed. Now those same channels are struggling to get views bc they did such a good job of peeing their pants over Captain marvel lol

  • @jamesmcclaren9759
    @jamesmcclaren9759 Před měsícem +1

    You nailed that analysis.

  • @tylersanders2388
    @tylersanders2388 Před 4 dny

    This was a really well made video essay about my two favorite currently running shows. I was never a huge comic book reader. I had a very small collection of mostly spider man comics as a kid and these shows are fantastic even independent of reading the source material.

  • @elijahdubois7902
    @elijahdubois7902 Před měsícem +5

    These shows are PEAK!

  • @Bman32x
    @Bman32x Před měsícem +5

    She Hulk left a bad taste in my mouth. Was bothered that I wasted time watching it. Invincible & X-Men 97 crush it in every way possible despite the obvious difference in animation (some would argue that much CGI might as well be animation) the writing, stories & plot is just better. They keep you involved and actually care about the characters’ development, with actual stakes & consequences. Invincible did more for the guardian of the globe from episode 1 than marvel has done in the last several live action series.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +2

      I’m glad you’re vibing with the new stuff. We’re seeing some good content, shame we have to wade through some crap to get to it!

    • @jerfuhrer2581
      @jerfuhrer2581 Před měsícem +1

      She-Hulk was written by people that don't even know or like She-Hulk. They just know she's more comedic than Hulk. And that's what they focused on. They didn't try to translate any of her actual stories into live action. Which is why it's so bad!

  • @LaMelJW
    @LaMelJW Před měsícem +1

    I never got to see any of the X-Men cartoons growing up, nor did I read comics or anything like that, so all of my exposure to the X-Men were from the movies ( 💀💀💀 ), so I never got to truly know Cyclops, I am truly sorry for my bad taste as a child ❤

  • @imJGott
    @imJGott Před měsícem +1

    I really don’t understand why Hollywood won’t follow the source material.

  • @noobdogg
    @noobdogg Před měsícem +3

    Bro Walton Goggins prolly has the year of his career RN invincible then fallout

    • @danielglooover
      @danielglooover Před měsícem +2

      Please son...Do you know The Shield? specially last season for him. There are more things besides nerdy stuffs

  • @arianall
    @arianall Před 13 dny +1

    Gambit and Wolverine have always been my favorites since i was a kid, i was so happy to see gambit finally get some shine and even though it didn’t last for long i am so keen to see more of the show. In most other shows with the same circumstance i would have dropped it. But got damn im sticking to xman 97 till it ends.

  • @ejohnson1767
    @ejohnson1767 Před měsícem

    Bascically the same for me as kid. I had old hand me down computers until I was 17 and did have high speed until around that time. I got a job and paid for high speed internet and built my first computer from mostly used parts. Then I started getting any X-Men comic I could get, up to decimation. I read all of invincible through digital comics. Never purchased a physical copy of the series.

  • @zuraibalam8698
    @zuraibalam8698 Před měsícem +1

    Superman Spider-Man and X-men have a special place in my heart as well

  • @mx9226
    @mx9226 Před měsícem +2

    I watched the movies and just saw Scott as a background character. Wolverine was the MC.
    Then ‘97 came out and I see why he has fans.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +1

      Welcome brother… to the congregation

  • @The80Kat
    @The80Kat Před měsícem +1

    I just started 97 yesterday…… it’s fire bro

  • @JAMES79HOWLETT
    @JAMES79HOWLETT Před měsícem +1

    I agree I like both shows

  • @hyper_adhd_kid
    @hyper_adhd_kid Před měsícem +2

    Good stuff man 👍

  • @Maymun-Adam
    @Maymun-Adam Před měsícem +4

    EMOTIONS.. I LOVED THE INVINCIBLE BECAUSE OF BRUTALITY N EMOTIONS.. I LIKE COMICS BECAUSE OF BRUTALITY N EMOTIONS.. X MEN 97 IT WAS AN AMAZING NOSTALGIA BUT ILOVE IT BECAUSE OF EMOTIONS N ACTION! THAT'S WHAT MIOST PPL SEEK! SAME REASON I LOVE BERSERK..

  • @ziachung4547
    @ziachung4547 Před měsícem +1

    After finishing season 2 of invincible I did the unthinkable (for me at least) and finished the entire run of the og comics in less than 3 days. I am in ruins. I see the show much more differently now. But MAN am I excited to see that all animated!

  • @Albert_225
    @Albert_225 Před měsícem +3

    I have the Receipts!!! 😂😂😂😂
    God thats Funny!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Dman4901
    @Dman4901 Před měsícem

    Episode 5 was insane and I did not expect them to go in that direction!!!!!!!

  • @quantumvideoscz2052
    @quantumvideoscz2052 Před měsícem +3

    You know what's really funny? Those "illiterate people" don't usually think the X-Men aren't an allegory to current social issues, specifically racism and, to a lesser extent, the hatred against LGBTQ+ people. However, a lot of people disagree on how to read this allegory. If you look at who is presented as correct and the good guy, which usually means who the writer wants you to agree with and who they personally agree with (USUALLY), you'll find out that Magneto's original idea, which was that humans were all evil and it's ok to be prejudiced against them in return, is NEVER condoned by the writers or by the main heroes. In X-Men ´97, Magneto does his best to honour what Xavier wanted: a peaceful solution of mutual coexistence. A lot of people will call the show woke, yet from what we can see when such people post their opinions online, they basically agree with og Magneto. The show is not meant to be a tool of political education or pandering or a medium for spreading a specific ideology, it's artistic and ANALYZES the ideas, poses questions and tries to answer them, makes you THINK about the issues. Something that is sorely missing from a lot of modern entertainment. It's like with Star Trek. Discovery doesn't exactly make you think about an issue when it covers it the way TNG used to when they covered the same topic. But X-Men ´97 DOES make you think, it does present the situation as complex and without a clear simple solution, which distinguishes it from ideological slop. Hell, Magneto's speech in the sky is incredible precisely because it doesn't follow the modern woke ideology. He demands that the humans acknowledge this is a shared world and that mutants have the same right to live in it as they do. Simple as that. He doesn't ask to be seen, he doesn't ask to be loved, he doesn't want a "mutant history month", he demands equal rights and that is it.

    • @LastBastian
      @LastBastian Před měsícem +1

      Think I agree with you. 97 *could* have easily been a ham fisted one sided woke mess. (Like so many shows these days)
      But they are doing a good job of demonstrating that you can tackle these topics with a bit of nuance and consideration for more than one ideological perspective.
      Trek TNG did a great job of this back in the day. Heck, The Orville did a pretty great job of it recently too.
      I hope 97 continues this trend.

    • @quantumvideoscz2052
      @quantumvideoscz2052 Před měsícem +1

      @@LastBastian Definitely!

  • @bag4592
    @bag4592 Před měsícem +4

    I think animation is just a better medium for superheroes overall

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +2

      Firm agree. Feel like live action breaks the uncanny valley and we end up with shit like Green Lantern

  • @senjukirameshi1418
    @senjukirameshi1418 Před měsícem +1

    The main problem with scott is that they never portrayed him correctly in the films, his suit is vital to the character’s popularity same with the rest of the team and i hope this is something the MCU fixes

  • @septillion2501
    @septillion2501 Před měsícem +1

    X-Men 97 and Invincible WORK because, just like Phase 1-3 of the MCU, they respect the original source material and they respect the fans of the original source material. The DCEU and the MCU Phase 4-5 did not and do not and look how that worked out for them.

  • @alphaj9
    @alphaj9 Před měsícem +1

    I’m so happy they brought the REAL Cyclops from the comics

  • @tylerfisher4661
    @tylerfisher4661 Před 2 dny

    I agree with the points in this video 100%, although I will say a show like Young Justice shows that comic accuracy isn’t completely necessary when there’s passion and talent driving the project. Also, like you said, when it’s not claiming to be something else, like with secret invasion

  • @micktheman6
    @micktheman6 Před měsícem +1

    Both of these shows are fantastic we need more of this for the future time to invest in animation with writers who are comic book fans

  • @Wakestone27
    @Wakestone27 Před měsícem +3

    One of my favorite content creators is also a Cyclops fan? You just became THE favorite. All of my friends used to tease me for liking the boy scout over the cool bad boy Wolverine. It's amusing how they've switched sides and now pretend they were always fans. But I know the truth, and I'll always remember >:O

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +2

      They shunned us. Belittle us. The age of the wolverine fan is over… NOW IS THE AGE OF SUMMERS!

  • @404creators8
    @404creators8 Před měsícem

    Thank you for this video!

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem

      Thank you for the nice comment

  • @lalauninterrupted2086
    @lalauninterrupted2086 Před 28 dny

    Rouge, Rouge has always been my favorite, as well as Gambit. They always made watching X-men as a kid so fun. I’m glad to see they finally getting the recognition they have always deserved. Also loving Storm in this as well they showed her as so weak in the movies not like the comics at all so glad to see it.

  • @leo2nd261
    @leo2nd261 Před 23 dny

    I love both X-men 97 and Invincible and seen every episode of both and look forward to more. 👍👍👍👍. 97 is a true faithful and updated version of original. Before the show, i never read or seen anything about Invincible and knew none of these characters but this show is making me a fan and getting to know them well so i am now a fan because of this show. I hope they do the same if they ever do Authority like R rated, Superman 2000, Batman 95, Spawn 99, Spider-man 98, and others they could continue from original endings.

  • @marcusgrissett7988
    @marcusgrissett7988 Před měsícem +1

    Soon as I got money I bought Giant size X-men 1 and hulk 181, I grow up on them,

  • @armoghetto
    @armoghetto Před měsícem +1

    With the X-men movies, you are absolutely correct. The characters and stories are used to sell what coukd or should be original ideas/concepts/stories which should be presented as original to see if they stand on their own, without the bait and switch. The Phoenix story has been tried twice- each time it was told as an entirely definite story than the one people would like to see on the big screen. Some say it may take more than one moviemtomsomit Justice… really? Like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars. If it needs more than one movie, what’s the profit problem?😊

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem

      Exactly... how many times can a writer fumble the plot before they just admit they can't write a story better than the freaking people who wrote it first

  • @coursetaken15
    @coursetaken15 Před měsícem +7

    can x men team from X-Men 97 defeats akatsuki from naruto?

    • @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946
      @eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946 Před měsícem

      Oh, that’s a tough question. What about could they handle Shibuya incident from jujitsu Kaisen?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem

      probably not

    • @lightspaceman5064
      @lightspaceman5064 Před měsícem

      I gotta be honest. I’m not sure. But I don’t think the Akatsuki can do anything they’ve never seen before.

    • @siphosethumbaba7559
      @siphosethumbaba7559 Před měsícem

      @@lightspaceman5064 uh everything the Akatsuki can do the x-men team have never seen any of it bro.

  • @skyhime
    @skyhime Před měsícem

    Back then i baught xmen 1 - 30. I picked up a couple of uncanny xmen too. I never knew scott was supose to be The Fearless Leader. But i knew he was badass! I respected what he wad able to lead the team thru. It wasnt till '97 that i wad able to see whathe was able to do. Ive always resoected him. Im glad others do now too.

  • @KayleLang
    @KayleLang Před 3 dny

    I loved Scott Summers as a kid during the early 1990s. But hated him in the live action movies. I'm glad to see him return to form in X-men 97.

  • @tm87yes77
    @tm87yes77 Před měsícem

    After I watched the first season of Invincible, I went out and bought the three compendiums! I've read them 3 times and absolutely love the characters and story!!

  • @ethankillion786
    @ethankillion786 Před měsícem +1

    Kinda, yeah. I think animation is arguably the best medium for adapting comics - it allows long-term storytelling in a way that live-action can struggle to find the budget or time to manage.

  • @Smile-op1nr
    @Smile-op1nr Před měsícem +2

    I personally never cared about cyclops mostly because of the movies didn't hate him but didn't like him. But now I am liking what x men 97 is doing with cyclops

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem

      You’re allowed to join the club

  • @mattj2692
    @mattj2692 Před měsícem

    That first episode made me so happy, cyc finally getting the he's always deserved!

  • @roxaclock
    @roxaclock Před 24 dny

    i've been a cyclops enjoyer SINCE falling down the x-men rabbithole and i am SO glad he's actually getting to do more stuff outside of the comics

  • @anakinuzamakihatake5366
    @anakinuzamakihatake5366 Před měsícem +1

    I’ve always loved Scott even when they did him dirty on the og trilogy and I’ve loved him since love that my boy is getting some shine

  • @ewan6314
    @ewan6314 Před měsícem

    Scott was amazing in the From the Ashes Run in Uncanny X-men. Seeing him take on Mastermind and a tricked group of X-men in the Danger Room was him at his best. Also liked him in the Grant Morrison run. His power is relatively boring but he is proper thinking warrior / workaholic. great character !

  • @ryanlillie8469
    @ryanlillie8469 Před dnem

    I agree, these two properties are totally being faithful and trying to put minimal twist on them. Thats what makes them popular, the original reasons they were popular to begin with.

  • @brandongonzalez1258
    @brandongonzalez1258 Před měsícem

    Cyclops has always been my favorite character since i first saw x men as a kid. I’m so glad he’s finally getting the love he deserves

  • @yashmandla1234
    @yashmandla1234 Před měsícem +1

    Personally i grew up with Evolution Cyclops so i was used to seeing him learnig how to be a leader, and seeing him being prone to being an ass every now and again mostly while hanging out with nightcrawler, made him feel like someone you'd acrually want to hang out with,
    And seeing him learn from the pacifist xaviar who only uses violence as a last resort; and the more millitant wolverine whos the typical get the job done by any means nessisary and watching him grow as both a solder, and eventually as a leader was pretty dope,
    Also i kinda liked instead of just being some wierdo creeping on cyclopsis girl; wolverine is basically the dissaproving but loving stepfather of not just scott but the whole team, wolveriines someone whos been subjected to unnimagginable torture because he was a mutant and people wanted to turn him into a weapon, and he just wants to make shure that if they have to these kids can handle themselves, but aslong as he's arround, he'll make shure they WON'T have to

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem

      I gotta watch that, people here in the comment section have been praising it.

  • @Harvey_Mod
    @Harvey_Mod Před měsícem

    I'm so happy for Scott. Been getting hard done all these years and I'm hype

  • @amac9245
    @amac9245 Před měsícem

    Well said! I have raised my kids on the no adult cartoons you have mentioned. We are working through the remaster of Spiderman TAS right now!

  • @OrFennSchuller
    @OrFennSchuller Před 25 dny

    Cyclops does his own stunts now

  • @thetrib1
    @thetrib1 Před měsícem +1

    Short and simple. X men 97 has huge nostalgia feels. And invincible has the right amount of violence.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +1

      memories and punchies... got it

    • @thetrib1
      @thetrib1 Před měsícem

      @@KeyIssues more like decades of groundwork so you don't have to worry about pace( x men). and blood and gore without making it seem "normal" to where it turns into white noise (invincible).

  • @adyaflatuconsina6302
    @adyaflatuconsina6302 Před 3 dny

    I think these two shows are a sign..if done right animated superhero shows are still in deman and beloved..I feel there hasn't really been a good animated superhero show for quite a few years before invincible and X-Men 97..but this is proof that it can work

  • @blackmario1117
    @blackmario1117 Před měsícem

    Cyclops got major character development during the 2000s!

  • @indiecinemaster4699
    @indiecinemaster4699 Před měsícem +1

    I've liked a lot of superhero movies and shows lately, but these two are very clearly top dogs.

  • @riceontopstew
    @riceontopstew Před měsícem

    is there any chance you might do manga videos, or have a separate channel for it?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +1

      We are planning on covering Demon Slayer... or at least I am (nick), Garrick has made some videos on record of Ragnorak, and he has plans to cover more Manga in the future (Specifically JJK)

  • @xananax21
    @xananax21 Před měsícem +1

    I cheered when Scott got domed in Ultimate.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem

      Ultimate X-men wasn't for me...

  • @ScribeofHibernia
    @ScribeofHibernia Před 22 dny

    I sincerely hope that one day we get a live action X-Men adaptation that gives Cyclops the respect he deserves

  • @swywd6017
    @swywd6017 Před 14 dny

    I was literally saying to someone 2 weeks ago X-men 97 makes me feel like when I first watched invincible, fresh exciting, vigorating and most importantly, faithful to the source material!!

  • @BoydOfPray
    @BoydOfPray Před měsícem

    After watching the first season of Invincible i immediately went and bought the entire series. I was hooked. Probably my favorite comic series

  • @willmahoney2452
    @willmahoney2452 Před měsícem

    I started reading Uncanny with issue 153 (Kitty’s Fairytale) and have been a fan of Cyclops from the beginning.

  • @uchihabomber1296
    @uchihabomber1296 Před měsícem

    The think the reality to me is that it shows how good Marvel can be too when they don’t have to worry about a products connection to the MCU specifically and remembering that just like DC that Marvel is a brand that can just tell any kinda stories it wants without worrying about its connection with other movies or series like Spectacular Spider-Man. I feel like DC has been good at making stuff like that with Joker and The Batman so I’d like Marvel Studios to just realize it doesn’t hurt to do that too cuz not everything they make needs to be MCU based it can just be the Marvel characters in general

  • @stephdasaucegod
    @stephdasaucegod Před měsícem

    cyclops was always my favorite x men ever since i was little. you don’t even know how happy i am for how x men 97 is treating him

  • @Lexipumpkin783
    @Lexipumpkin783 Před měsícem

    i needed more mature Super hero content, and XMEN and Invincible gave me that

  • @jonathanathor117
    @jonathanathor117 Před měsícem +5

    I like cyclops. I just don't like him with Emma frost. I hate the love triangle with him, Logan and jean. And I absolutely hate that he killed Charles Xavier in the comics.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +2

      Exactly, Emma belongs with me anyway. I can change her.

  • @JeremiahTX
    @JeremiahTX Před 17 dny

    Finished x men 97 in a day, it was that good

  • @victorbui6341
    @victorbui6341 Před měsícem

    Spot on video

  • @anshumananshu667
    @anshumananshu667 Před měsícem +2

    Cyclops to me was the coolest X Men character, I remember Back in days I would use my headphone as blasters and pretend to be him, It's a shame that our bro is violated in every medium whether it's comics or in Live action.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +1

      We will have our day in the sun

  • @TheVeritas1
    @TheVeritas1 Před měsícem

    Great episode.
    Regarding Cyclops, I never really GOT the character's appeal since he seemed too much of rule follower in a team of misfits and outlaws. Grant Morrison's run on X-Men did cause me to start warming up to the character.
    But X-Men '97 easily has the coolest and most compelling Cyclops I've seen.

  • @vcnn-ts2ob
    @vcnn-ts2ob Před měsícem

    I can never unsee wolverine's mask look like 2 Batman looking at each other

  • @uktony123
    @uktony123 Před měsícem +3

    Whatever stance Nick takes I will take the opposite stance

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před měsícem +3

      Thank you for always pushing me to be worse

    • @4eeyore266
      @4eeyore266 Před měsícem

      @@KeyIssuesbro is your number 1 hater 🗣️🗣️