100A SWITCH FUSE ISOLATOR INSTALL

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Komentáře • 107

  • @abdoaiman
    @abdoaiman Před rokem +4

    Leaving extra length of the armoured would make the job easier i believe .. Well done sparky 👍

  • @fire_stick
    @fire_stick Před 5 měsíci

    DNO fuse is to protect the installation as a whole metering etc, the additional fuse is required to protect the cabling to the CU. Not required if CU is closer.

  • @daveenglish2031
    @daveenglish2031 Před 5 měsíci

    great vid. Ive got to do one this week. what's the general thoughts on running the swa up the cavity?? If i cant get it up the cavity then I'm going to have to chase it into the block behind the dot and dab :/

  • @ljtr2112
    @ljtr2112 Před rokem +1

    Great work mate… the guy from the DNO will appreciate the work too. Not understanding the ball ache you had leaving plenty of room for the meter 👍

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem

      Cheers mate. He better appreciate it 😂😂

    • @benYMSB
      @benYMSB Před 5 měsíci

      The meter provider won’t touch it. They don’t connect to a de-energised supply and on the basis there’s no room for an isolator, they’d walk away.

  • @ru8y1987
    @ru8y1987 Před rokem +19

    Assuming the DNO puts a 100a in... your fuse needs to be max 80a. Selectivity and all that 👍

    • @Emin3m1986
      @Emin3m1986 Před rokem +6

      No, you don`t... because there is no need for selectivity there.

    • @ru8y1987
      @ru8y1987 Před rokem +1

      @@Emin3m1986 who says?

    • @Danny-npgbp
      @Danny-npgbp Před 7 měsíci +1

      DNO will only fit 80a fuse in cutout. Your 100a fuse pointless. Really needs to be 63a to allow for discrimination between household circuit and DNO supply.

    • @robtmcL12
      @robtmcL12 Před 5 měsíci

      I'm DNO and can confirm we have recently had instruction to fit an 80 amp in the 100 amp cutout. The reason being it will allow 120 amp + for a few hours. The time/current curve for the BS88 will confirm this.
      As for discrimination, you don't need to bother. It's 50/50 which one will fail first and if it's the DNO one that gives up first, they will respond within 2 hours anyway. In some instances ( flats with submains ) we use a red fuse link in the flat as there's already fuse protection in the Distribution board ( eg Bemco/Rapell/Schnieder boards ).

  • @therealdojj
    @therealdojj Před rokem +1

    So is it purely because of the distance then?
    I think a saw another video about the same thing earlier today

  • @tomlloyd9372
    @tomlloyd9372 Před rokem +3

    Nice. FYI, its the meter operator (eon, british gas etc) who will install the meter. DNO own up to the cutout before the meter, so will not install that

  • @tim4182
    @tim4182 Před rokem

    22/58 100a fuse is an European style industrial fuse NOT a domestic 22/57 house service type. Any short circuit fault would blow the DNO fuse and not the one in the switch fuse,I've seen this happen before,these fuses have a much higher watts loss and pre arcing values are higher

  • @shiamjad
    @shiamjad Před rokem

    very helpful video....

  • @ElectricianTV
    @ElectricianTV Před rokem

    Nice one Ryan that is always a bitch of a job. Even if you do armours every day.its still shit. You made it look easy keep up the good work. The only thing I do different is I take the grommet out of the gland and put it back in, so the 2 25 mm holes are at the back.

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +1

      Cheers Andrew, appreciate it, yeah it’s a git of a job.

  • @aclarke0100
    @aclarke0100 Před rokem +1

    What grips did you use please

  • @connormelia2926
    @connormelia2926 Před 11 měsíci

    Top stuff

  • @supersparks9466
    @supersparks9466 Před rokem +1

    Those switch fuses are pants, just no room in there. I always buy the Wylex ones ,plenty of room in them.

  • @chandreshvarsani2190
    @chandreshvarsani2190 Před rokem +2

    I've done a couple of these, it's easier to curl the wires at both lod and supply side. I always leave length on cables just in case and it looks just as tidy. Not sure why earth nut or banjo wasn installed from source side as less likely to get tampered or disconnected 🤔

    • @sebastiannielsen
      @sebastiannielsen Před 10 měsíci

      Tampering with Earth or Neutral won't in any way get you free electricity, it will just make the life more dangerous. So putting them on "consumer side" is actually preferred, since then if the consumer or any electrician needs to make a measurement on for example earth or neutral, you usually need to separate these (NOTE: Very dangerous, should be done with isolated supply) and then you can measure, for example, track down cheater earths (cheater earths are when you make a fake earth out of the neutral on a socket - super dangerous!) - this by connecting a beeper transmitter on the now disconnected earth, and then making sure every socket beeps. If a socket doesn't beep, its a sign that the earth in that socket is fake.
      Disconnected neutrals and earths also have other usages, measuring resistance to find out cable lengths and impedance, tracing broken earths and neutrals and lots of other uses, and it would be a pity to have to call DNO or meter company just to do some troubleshooting on earth or neutral.
      So always leave earth and neutral easily accessible on consumer side.

  • @sergiofernandez3725
    @sergiofernandez3725 Před rokem +5

    Why was it not an 80amp fuse upstream of the 100amp main cutout? Descrimination/ Selectivity and what not

    • @kittsdiy
      @kittsdiy Před rokem +2

      +1 .. now it's the strongest fuse who will not pop :p 50/50 chance the DNO one will trip :p

  • @chrischris3551
    @chrischris3551 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Great job,quick question, what’s the point of using a 100A isolator when the mains got a 100A alright supporting it?

    • @mcoys1029
      @mcoys1029 Před 2 měsíci

      If the tails are longer than 3 metres away from the consumer unit you have to put in a fused mains switch due to regs

  • @ELECTRICLIFE4U
    @ELECTRICLIFE4U Před rokem

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @abcd-by6rw
    @abcd-by6rw Před rokem

    Curious if its recommended putting some kind of terminal on the bare conductor? or if this does not matter, cheers!

  • @marcwilliams3921
    @marcwilliams3921 Před rokem +1

    That neutral on the load side must of been a right pig

  • @JJ-lf4er
    @JJ-lf4er Před rokem +1

    Do you not usually use the grey for the earth and black for neutral or doesn’t it matter as long as it’s sleeved?

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +16

      No mate, black for CPC always 👍🏻

    • @NickGirnius
      @NickGirnius Před rokem +14

      Deneutralization of black means it will always be CPC and grey will be the neutral mate

    • @mikethemask1525
      @mikethemask1525 Před rokem +6

      Denuetralize the black always grey is neutral and should be sleeved blue.

    • @_eusty
      @_eusty Před rokem +3

      I do the same, but really there are no regs, as long as they are identified correctly.

    • @Riggersa
      @Riggersa Před rokem +3

      @@_eusty there are regs for it, if you look in the regs book where it lists the colours, now black should never be used as as a neutral with new colours

  • @johnwaby4321
    @johnwaby4321 Před rokem

    I would have put the tails gland above the main switch they would have gone straight in ..
    And fit an earthing nut on the swa gland .

  • @mrutubeuk
    @mrutubeuk Před rokem +1

    Did you run the swa through the cavity if so how much of it?

    • @JonNelson90WBN
      @JonNelson90WBN Před rokem

      Didn’t he say the consumer unit was roughly 12mtr away?

  • @michaeltye8853
    @michaeltye8853 Před rokem +2

    Pay slightly more and you can have colour coded SWA ….BROWN..BLUE …GREEN/YELLOW ..worth the extra .

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +1

      It’s really no time at all to put the heat shrink on, plus the heat gun kept my hands warm 😂

    • @kittsdiy
      @kittsdiy Před rokem

      +1 i really don't get this .. seems every UK elektrician buys the SWA for industrial 3 phase use with black/brown/grey . And changes the colors . Here in Belgium this is not really allowed as it is confusing .
      Using a black conductor for PE etc .. just buy the correct cable for domestic .. and it seemes UK is 99% single fase in houses .. should be no problem to find correct cable .( in Belgium we call this 3G16 / 3G25 . The G tells there is a ground wire( CPC yellow green in ) and 2 wires for current blue and brown(or black ) .

    • @_eusty
      @_eusty Před rokem

      @@kittsdiy That's because 3 core SWA is generally used on 3 phase systems....

    • @kittsdiy
      @kittsdiy Před rokem

      @@_eusty yep for 3x400V industrial use the colors are correct .. and NO neutral wire . And CPC is run seperate .. So domestic elektricians just buy the wrong cable and relabel it .. Would not pass inspection here official . the color has to be the same for whole cable ( so recoloring black to green/yellow is not ok here ) . But i think in UK after installation no external company needs to inspect the electricians work and aprove .. i have seen many do it on youube .. so i guess it's allowed in UK ..

    • @seano452
      @seano452 Před rokem +1

      Hence the sleeving….
      If the sleeving is blue or green or brown, then that states what the conductor is. 👍🏻

  • @tomcollinson5433
    @tomcollinson5433 Před rokem +1

    Bet getting the cover on was a nightmare😂

    • @gavinnoname1424
      @gavinnoname1424 Před rokem

      Pretty sure the each connection for the lid is on the right hand side too

  • @lisabarton22
    @lisabarton22 Před 7 měsíci

    Is it possible for the switch to go off but not blow fuse?

  • @henrytwigger2245
    @henrytwigger2245 Před rokem +1

    The supply companies use to insist that no consumer apparatus be installed in meter cabinets, has that changed ?

    • @kobirelf97
      @kobirelf97 Před 10 měsíci

      This is technically not true in this case when a consumer unit is more than 3 m away from the main head there has to be an isolator of some kind

  • @corbs07
    @corbs07 Před rokem +1

    Any reason why you didn’t use a stuffer instead of a swa gland as it’s earth distro end ?

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +2

      Nah no reason mate

    • @mikethemask1525
      @mikethemask1525 Před rokem +2

      I've used these once, personally I prefer the metal swa glands feels better even if
      it's just my excuse to get grips out and show off 😂

  • @Emin3m1986
    @Emin3m1986 Před rokem

    Mate, I`m curious how did you manage to put back the front of the Fused Switch Panel... I guess that you know what I mean.

  • @philbennett806
    @philbennett806 Před rokem

    I installed one for a meter move, wrestled with the 25mm 3core only for the DNO to put in cable that was no bigger than my thumb! What’s that all about?!

  • @BK-jc7ik
    @BK-jc7ik Před rokem

    😁✋✋

  • @rossdavis6837
    @rossdavis6837 Před rokem

    Looks like agg bro😂

  • @GRANTY960
    @GRANTY960 Před rokem +1

    Don’t suppose you had to move the new enclosure about 3mm to the left to get the cover on did you 👀🤣

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +1

      Nope, went on, just 😬😅😂

    • @GRANTY960
      @GRANTY960 Před rokem +1

      @@RDavisElectrical the squeaky bum when you remember the cover over laps 😂

    • @philtaylor3184
      @philtaylor3184 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@GRANTY960and the bonding strap for the front cover isn't fitted

  • @olegbirfon-ss3fs
    @olegbirfon-ss3fs Před 2 měsíci

    hi, anybody could explain when we could place 63amp, or 80amp or 100amp? after installed smart meter it increased the bill cost, burn off extractor, washing machine, hair drier, thank you have a nice day

  • @andrewjames3908
    @andrewjames3908 Před 8 měsíci

    Whats the limit on how long the cable run can be in this situation?

    • @peterigrenyi9176
      @peterigrenyi9176 Před 7 měsíci

      No limit really. But you have to size cable correctly for voltage drop. (And i do not mean limitless as in 1 million miles... )

  • @Lordmarkstuckey4161
    @Lordmarkstuckey4161 Před 20 dny

    Why are Meters now fitted on the outside of the house?

    • @23lnp
      @23lnp Před 18 dny +1

      So the powers that be can gain access to it without you needing to be home.
      They cant enter your home by law unless you let them in.
      If you build a metal cage around your outdoor meter then they cant gain access and if they break it to get to the meter its classed as criminal damage.

  • @whitey4909
    @whitey4909 Před rokem +1

    Should you be fitting a 100a switch fuse?

    • @kittsdiy
      @kittsdiy Před rokem

      that would probably trip faster then DNO (melt) fuse. I would go for this approach i think.

  • @stevenredmond7455
    @stevenredmond7455 Před rokem

    The meter box isn’t your’s so how do you get away with using it for your sw fuse. I’ve always had to put it either inside property of 2nd box.

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem

      You can’t be serious?

    • @stevenredmond7455
      @stevenredmond7455 Před rokem +3

      @@RDavisElectrical Yes i am serious. Maybe you require more experience. Different area’s i suppose have different rules. In Cambridgeshire we had to use a separate meter box for sw fuse. We were not allowed to fit anything in with the head & meter.

    • @persona250
      @persona250 Před rokem +1

      The meter box is property of the homeowner.

    • @stevenredmond7455
      @stevenredmond7455 Před rokem +1

      @@persona250 The box is but not what goes in it.

    • @karlfleming7182
      @karlfleming7182 Před 10 měsíci

      @@stevenredmond7455 Nah steve sw fuse can go in meter box!

  • @tomturner4590
    @tomturner4590 Před rokem +2

    Just curious as to what is the need for another fuse next to the main fuse?

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +1

      We aren’t allowed to touch the main fuse 😅

    • @RDavisElectrical
      @RDavisElectrical  Před rokem +1

      Without ringing the DNO anyway

    • @kittsdiy
      @kittsdiy Před rokem +2

      Also i hope the extra one is faster then the one from the DNO 🙂
      Seems a bit useless 2 100A melt fuses after eachother .. if the new one trips first your lucky .. you can replace it .
      If the DNO ones trips you have to call DNO or break the seal . ( kinda funny in uk they do'nt have automatic fuses from the DNO .. proably because melt fuses are cheaper )

    • @neil6438
      @neil6438 Před rokem

      @@kittsdiy I thought that....

    • @darrenplant1428
      @darrenplant1428 Před rokem

      It’s because the cable is over the recommended distance. And runs in the fabric of the building.

  • @JC-sd3vh
    @JC-sd3vh Před 8 měsíci

    Fuse switch

  • @ascorpio1
    @ascorpio1 Před rokem +1

    Why 25mm SWA and not 16mm?

    • @temp06j723-pmeighttq
      @temp06j723-pmeighttq Před 11 měsíci

      Why not 25mm² ?
      Why not 35mm² ??

    • @ascorpio1
      @ascorpio1 Před 11 měsíci

      @@temp06j723-pmeighttq Because my understanding is that the cable size and fuse should match the setup. The DNO fuse is 100 amps. The tails are 25mm which support amps of over that size of use or thereabouts. If you then are going to build a distribution network then the DNO then expects you to go lower in cable size and fuse to protect their fuse. A 25mm cable matches the tails which isn’t the correct way to build a distribution network hence the question. I think the distribution network needs to be lower cable and fuse so that if there was an issue on it then it would protect the DNOs fuse and setup but I’m not qualified and learning so if you know the answer I’d be glad to hear it.

    • @temp06j723-pmeighttq
      @temp06j723-pmeighttq Před 11 měsíci

      DNO's cabling protection is another complex story.
      CutOut is to protect Meter Tails etc.
      When given a 100A service Cut Out, you wouldn't be fitting a 16mm² Tails unless you Downsize the Switch-fused Isolator + fuse to a 80A then it will be fine.
      But then it will be a waste, considering the ability the DNO to Service up to 100A yet we downgrade our PERMANENT Cabling(meter tails) to a lower size that Forever is Binded/capped to 80A in the future (with using of 16mm²).
      Hope it makes sense.

  • @stevedebbiemoore
    @stevedebbiemoore Před rokem

    Is there room for a smart meter🤔

  • @jonte7582
    @jonte7582 Před rokem

    how come the cables dont come with the right colour? Brown, Blue, Earth

    • @StuartJ
      @StuartJ Před 11 měsíci

      Because the cable used was 3 phase + armoured (earth). Not sure why you wouldn't use 2 core, plus armoured.

    • @karlfleming7182
      @karlfleming7182 Před 10 měsíci

      @@StuartJ Having Earth as a wire in the cable from meter to the unit is more reliable than relying on the armour

    • @StuartJ
      @StuartJ Před 10 měsíci

      @@karlfleming7182 I don't see how. So long as the armour is correctly terminated.

  • @avreclaim6469
    @avreclaim6469 Před rokem

    Bin the banjo, Use Earth Nuts - It is 2022!! 🙂
    Also you have left that WRONG, the Isolator should kill the fuse, not a slick mod!
    Probably a job for CW, NOT a BW Gland as well....

    • @karlfleming7182
      @karlfleming7182 Před 10 měsíci

      yeah have to say this wasn't a great job on this video

  • @BlackDragonSP
    @BlackDragonSP Před rokem

    Хм, запасика у нуля нету

  • @aclarke0100
    @aclarke0100 Před rokem

    What grips did you use please