Honda CB1000R (Black Edition) vs Suzuki GSX-S1000 2021 | Visordown.com
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- Honda vs Suzuki | Honda CB1000R v Suzuki GSX S1000 vs Honda CB1000R . If you're looking for a #naked #motorcycle that offers more for the real world rider, two bikes that stand out as newly updated models are the #Honda #CB1000R and #Suzuki #GSXS1000.
With around 150bhp on tap and less exotic chassis components than the bikes at the upper end of the naked scale, they offer more riders a route into 1,000cc naked bike segment.
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The Honda is just sooo good looking. Super cool, especially the black edition. Really liked it in person at the dealer too.
Ideally, the comparison should've been with the Katana
The Honda is more pretty but the suzuki is unbeateable with that price.
More pretty😂😂
Thanks a lot for your measured comparison videos! A request for your video editor - can you balance the levels so that the music is not so much louder than the talking? I listen on headphones usually and things like the intro at 0:07 the transitions in the middle are very loud compared to the voices and I have to listen with a hand on the volume button.
Great content though - thanks again.
ThanksToad, great comparison. I sat on the Honda in a shop in a suit, no demo available and dam it looks good. Absolutely look back over your shoulder. The outgoing 2020 black version. Interested to hear the handling is better though no quick shifter. The Suzuki, soon to arrive is certainly great value for money where I live. Being soft I would add heated grips and a bit of wind protection. Still thinking. No test rides yet due to supply issues.
Nice comparison Toad! Kinda suprised that the CB1000R pipped the new Suzuki (having never ridden the Suzuki 1000 in any form). For some reason I thought the new GSX-S would be a bit more brutish, got one coming failry soonish. Absolutely fell in love with the Black edition CB though, utterly class and a right hoot to ride! Cheers! Dan
I considered both and went for the Honda. The reason was I preferred the looks
I'm glad y'all did this. I'm looking for another bike and the CB was on my mind
I was too, I was between s1000r, katana and the cb1000 beemer prices were just too high, katana fit and finish just didn’t do it for me so I picked up a cb1000r black 2 days ago and it’s a fantastic bike, it looks even better in person. If you haven’t seen one at the dealership go check it out.
Loved the Suzuki when I test rode it so much so I've bought it.
Lovely and responsive. Comfy to ride and had no issues riding the speed limit for a 1000cc bike didnt feel like it had to be ridden fast if that makes sense like you get with the usual 1000cc bikes.
Cannot wait for this to be dropped off 😁
When will the full review for the CB1000R Black Ed be released? We're looking fwd to it.
Best Naked you CANT buy and would take my money in a heartbeat would be a Yamaha XSR1000. With the looks of the XSR and the CP4 engine would be a goddamn masterpiece. So Yamaha if your listening....pull the trigger!
I agree but i think they should retain it as a triple but increase it to a 1000 ! i had a 60th Aniversary XSR 9 and it would wheelie all day long - inline fours can be a little bland but a triple.... they sound sooo good.
@@chriskarn4718 Yeah that would be killer!! But although the CP4 R1 derived engine is a solid engine with the unusual firing order, they sound mean and have some decent torque. And I’m sure they can squeeze more out for low end. But yeah I love the way the XSR looks.
@@luko560 yeah I really wondered why they never have....
"a shade over a ten thousand pounds" - £10.999 ... what planet are you living on where £1000 is a "shade" over £10k? If you said "a shade below a £11k" than it would make sense but definitely not here
It depends what "shades" you are wearing I guess ;)
I really like the looks of the Honda in black edition trim. I want to test ride to see if it’s as fun to ride as something like the MT-10.
It's much more like the MT09 in reality, the MT10 is also an ugly sucker from any angle compared to the Honda. Just my opinion, mates have both Yams.
Piss poor suspension on the Honda, despite what this review says. If your over 10 stone it gets bouncy
I like the New Suzuki but my first thoughts of the headlight are 'something is missing ' and 'something broke off'.. It looks good but kinda empty in front
I currently own a 2015 CB650F.
I would humbly prefer the CBR1000R eventhow I must admit my preference to the Suzuki before I saw your friendly comparison video !
Regards 🇧🇷
Suzuki looks more well put together and more refreshing to see.
_"Suzuki looks more well put together"_
Does Suzuki pay for your crack?
The only reason you'd buy the Suzuki is if you couldn't afford the Honda, the Honda is better looking, handles better, higher spec, no competition
I love em both honestly and would consider either of them if I wasn’t dead set on a zx10r. I think a lot of folks are missing the point fussing over 10whp or 10lbs wet weight over some of the competitors. Either of these bikes would be bad ass naked sporty bikes for the street, more than competent enough to burn basically everything you pull up next to if you are too. And can be great in the twisties. I think people also are too caught up on gizmos, as a rider to me less is more. I don’t need 15 menus to play with I need basic info. Honestly at this power level I don’t really need any aids either. Theyre both right in the 1000cc street bike sweet spot. Lastly, somehow the gsxs is still getting flack for looks. I think it looks great. Especially compared to the dead whale carcass face it had before
Agree with this mate. Expecting delivery Saturday for the GSX S1000 😁 went for it in grey
Suzuki for the low-end shove. I am a former B-King owner, so I wanted to like the Suzi more.
It took me 3 seconds to forget those extra bucks i put towards cb. And now im lot more happier and excited in everyday life even when im not riding 😁😁😁
The biggest difference for me is the 3600 dollar up charge for the CB. I love the CB but, here in Canada, the more usable powertrain of the GSXS works
I like both. But, I would buy the Honda. It looks and feels a higher quality product.
I was trying to think back to when Suzuki last made an aesthetically desireable motorbike and ended up in the early 90s.
New busa is pretty except in the back.
Nice video. Pretty close match. For me is the Suzuki, better value and futurisic design.
Want a more classic look and refinement: Honda.
More value and futuristic design: Suzuki.
I have a 2019 cb1000r and it is the same bike other than some styling differences. Prefer mine in red. Excellent machines.
The GSX is the first bike that made me consider not buying another duke.
For their intended purposes, basically a wash that'll be determined by one's design preferences and wallet. A track day on either is highly unlikely, and they both have greater performance envelopes than can be used on the road (responsibly). For weekend, sporting rides, either will easily do the trick (but with better pillion seats?). The '22 Suzuki comes in two other colorways - matte grey/black and all-black - that come off MUCH better than this one.
The Honda is much prettier but not worth the extra money to me personally as it doesn't really excite me whereas the Suzuki seems like a bit of a cheap & cheerful headbanger. Although because of the Honda's looks & quality I could see people keeping it indefinitely but not so much the Suzuki which would most likely get traded in after a couple of years once you'd had your fun.
People commenting on CB having less HP makes it feel like they’re redlining their bikes in the city or even in the twisties all the time. Like, seriously, how much power do you actually need on the street?
Few things missing here...comfort and details. There are many reviews that universally state the comfort and spaciousness of GsxS and crampiness on CB. Details wise, simpe seat connection to the tank shows a super plush connected look on GSX and a nassive gap on CB. Great torque curve and flexible engine GSX has beats revy CB. Some reviews, although of the previous lower powere CB also show that even Z900RS or definitely Katana leave CB in a dust in the twisties...add an alost 3K difference in the US...GSX is simply a better choice, especially if you are 6 feet and up. Cheers!
Yeah I've just watched an LCR review between them both and the gsxs took it on the suspension and front end feel.
I really like the retro look of the honda. The gsxs looks portly.
What i want to know is how do these bikes compare to the Kawasaki z1000? Another bike in the naked 1000 class that has similar performance, but beats em both on looks! (imo)
im manifesting a cb1000r or perhaps cbr 1000 rr 2017 next year
Mmm that's a surprise I was sure for me the Suzuki would steel it but I have to say on looks the Honda has it especially in the black of course their is more to it than that and only a test ride would do it .Cheers : )
Picked a black edition up today. On the road a great handling bike. I had a 16 gsxs that was great too. I then got a 20 tuono factory. It was pretty poor on the potholed gravel ridden roads. Big price with all the bling doesn't necessarily make a good road bike. Before anyone dives in I know the tuono would blow them away on track. In the real world both bikes are just as quick a to b.
Are you enjoying riding the Honda more than the Suzuki?
@@farzankhansaheb I'd say it's similar, a bit smoother. Both bikes give you loads of confidence and are fun too ride. I wouldn't be upset having either. It's just a case of which one you like the look of.
@@yorkshire1290DUKE-R thanks for this. Which one feels more torquey low down do you think?
@@farzankhansaheb very similar. Both will pull from low revs in a gear too high. Very forgiving and easy to ride.
@@yorkshire1290DUKE-R thanks mate, appreciate it!
Very good machines both , CB styling wins for me .
I bought a Yamaha 07 FZ1s new 13 years ago, same theme as these two bikes, previous model R1 engine in a upright riding position, designed for old blokes who still want power.
So what is your point?.
I have the Honda and you're correct in saying it is rather a looker (in a weird ugly way) and I never walk away without looking back, but, it must have the world's most uncomfortable seat in existence! On a run, mate and me swapped bikes with his Suzuki gsx1400, Oh my god, his felt like a comfy armchair. By 30 mins we swapped back and he couldn't wait to get off mine. If you like sitting a sharp-edged brick then you'll love it, but if you plan riding all day, much as I love my 'Hooligan' CB1000R', don't choose the Honda. I really should test that GSX1000 now.
I'm on a self - imposed displacement limit because of age. The Honda is the one I like because of the elegant styling and reported chassis feed back. I understand the CB throws muddy water towards the seat in rain because of rear fender. GSX8S, Hornet and MT07 are what my adult mind says would be a healthier choice.
Does the Black Edition Honda not come with a rear passenger seat or does it have a removable cover ?
Has a removable cowl
These bikes are essentially the same price in Australia Although I just notice the Honda doesn't have the CB1000R listed on their website.
I bought the 2022 gsxs, the stock rear shock doesnt do it any favors- job 1 is to replace that with a proper one- do that it handles quite well.
Good review. The base CB1000R does not have a quick shifter so the like for like money is a little further apart. Is the handling that much better?
What is the story of the US release of these bikes? Suzuki's US site still has no price and Honda's site only has the black edition (which I personally think is the worst looking version).
The GSX was the best looking bike until they changed the headlight and added those stupid winglets.
your eyes need surgery if you say new one looks bad when compared with outgoing version
Those winglets are cool looks like a fighter jet😂
I really like the cb, it’s a stunning bike and something a little bit more polished and premium than other bikes in the category, if you want a hyper naked then there are plenty of faster bikes, but for an everyday bike the cb1000 will likely be more than enough, the Gsxs is a little boring to me and has been around for quite a while now albeit in different plastics I’m sure it’s a great bike but a bit forgettable
Gsxs boring? You need to ride one 😂
@@kwak1k when you ride a superduke just about any other bike is boring….
The GSXS looks like a Katana front end with Honda grom headlights
The Honda is gorgeous but 13k's is supernaked price for something that's basically the same Suzuki package. If I'm going to spend 13k's than I'll spend a little more on a Tuono or Superduke, if I can't go above that budget than I'll buy the Suzuki. Congrats on the video!
agree, Tuono 1100 V4 or Superduke or Speed-Triple 1200RS
@@chirag4 Yes, I forgot the new Speed..
@@chirag4 or the new MT10 SP 2022, the midrange King👍🏻
@@hemmexl after 8 months of my comment, now i would prefer 2022 MT10 over KTM & Triumph & Aprilia
13k is not super naked money. I have this bike and a 2022 speed triple. There's 4700 between them
Absolutely I chose Suzuki GSX-S 1000 😘😘👍 Jelas saya pilih Suzuki GSX-S 1000 lah.... 😘😘👍
that looks like Mount Ventoux they are riding around.
As a current Suzuki rider, I do love my bike, however, I really like the way the Honda looks. I’m going to have to test ride both to figure out which one I want. What rider doesn’t want to test ride more bikes?
You gotta, you learn what you like by doing that. It’s weird the more I try it the more I like my own bike more lmao
......and try the Katana while you are at it.....
I love my GSX-S .. best bang for my $
One thing the gsxs absolutely isn’t is boring 😅 and I don’t know about you guys but I love an underdog.
Honda all the way
Suzuki is much much much much more
fun. Not even close. Induction noise and low down grunt of the Gixxes wins the day. The Honda is lovely but a lot more sensible.
I've tried both the Suzuki is the better handling faster bike
Suzuki 😎
Suzuki all the way
Is the Honda £2,000 better than the Suzuki ?
Would go for the most comfy bike,
With more low down grunt.
At last some whom actually knows what they need.
Pity for Australia riders as Honda has discontinued their sale of CB1000R
I am thorn between the two. I like the more classic look of the Honda. Give me some opinions pls.
Placed a down payment for the Honda in July, current shipping date is end of November. Yes, that part sucks. My decision was made based on looks and actual intended usage. I also still have the 2002 CBR954RR I bought 20 years, so I know how well Honda's bikes ride and hold up.
Appreciate these “comparisons” you guys been doing but they are really misleading. Is comparing 2 bikes mainly from recollection and stat sheets really fair to call them direct comparisons? As anyone who has ridden two bikes back to back, side by side will tell you, other things take shape that memory just can’t account for so much. I think you should really call these something other than “comparison” videos unless you have both bikes sitting there in front of you. Just my two cents.
Hi how are you?
I have a question
If you want choice the just one bike of naked bikes
Between :
Honda cb1000
BMW s1000r
Suzuki gsx 1000
Kawasaki z1000
What is the your choice?
If you have another brand please write to me
Your answer it’s very important for me because I want buying the naked motorcycle but I don’t know which one it’s best and good and also be a cheap 😬😎
Thank you 🙏
Best regards
Are we really supposed to believe, we won't be able to notice the CB is down 20whp and 10 lb ft torque to the Suzuki? Ok.
On the day to day you won’t notice that. Line em up and drag race them or do highway pulls with both and you’ll see the gsxs is a bit faster, not a lot, just a bit
Are we supposed to believe that 95 percent of riders are even capable of riding either bike at their limits?
@@adamnagel7436 Absolutely correct. A 600-700cc with half of the numbers can throw me off the seat already lol. I can hardly imagine why would I need that much power in the street
@@adamnagel7436 95% of riders would say they are capable discerning the differences so you are either calling them liars or they are deluding themselves and 95% of riders would deny the 2nd option; So therefore you are wrong.
To ride either of these bikes at the full extent of the available power produced would be terrifying to most riders. I owned a GSX-S 1250 and it had me seeing my life flash before my eyes on too many occasions. If you have in the area of 150 bhp you really better know what you are doing. Dismemberment and Death are the cost of not understanding what this kind motorcycle is capable of.
I started with a 2009 CB1000R in 2020, got a 2019 CB1000R the next year, thought it was an upgrade, it wasn’t.
Bought a 2017 Kawasaki S1000sx the next year, it was a much better bike!
But I sold that one too, not enough power.
The CB1000R looks great, but it so boring to drive.
I am usually a Honda guy... but here I prefer the suziki - very cheap for what you get - at least in denmark. 5600£ in difference....
love the gsx-s
I've often had Hondas on the short list when buying a new bike but have never bought one. Price? Too conventional? I'd have the Suzuki here or the ZX10R.
I am leaning more towards the Suzuki although they are both great looking bikes 👍
Im a suzuki guy but I could say this is a tie
Nice bike
It’s incredibly subjective, to me the Honda looks uninteresting, too clean, sophisticated and polite almost. The Suzuki looks very mean and muscular. Very interesting to me. That being said, I am only loving on the all black version as it gives more mystery to the design. Draws me in more to want to have a closer look. Then it comes to riding, and I adore the K5 engine and short gearing for a street fighter. Yes I have tested it.
I will choose the Honda If I could afford it.
0-60?????
Suzuki bang for the buck Honda’s are in a class of their own but the industry needs more affordable bikes to get the sport alive period Europe and the US are in a Great Recession
U r absolutely wrong the Suzuki handling is much better...the honda has better breaking but corners the Suzuki destroyed the honday and its faster
I miss the engine sound ... dont miss speaking.
Not much of a comparison! Using old press releases of bikes then comparing them at later date is not an accurate comparison. It's cost cutting, a bit like the way Suzuki building their motorcycles haha! To give readers a true comparison, have two test riders take both brands out for an extended tour, swap rides and then compare the pros and cons of each bike. If you need some inspiration check out the way MCN do their in-depth comparisons eg their combined test of the Suzuki GSX-S1000GT vs Kawasaki's Ninja 1000SX.
You're right of course. Looks are subjective...
One of them looks very good. The other, does not.
But we all know that where Kawa do a good(ish) job looking all Transformer-franchise-esque, the Suzi looks like a cheap knock-off Transformer.
Triumph bonneville T120
Honda down 20hp at rear wheel. Not just a number it's a map to "gap city" if these two ever drag raced. Tell me I'm wrong. I'd still buy the Honda though.
Is Honda less than honest about claimed figures then ? There's only about 7 BHP difference for claimed output at the bikes' crankshafts. Does the Honda really lose so much more power through its transmission ?
A naked liter bike is a naked liter bike on the street 🤷🏽♂️ it doesn’t matter. The GSX S1000 is “cheaper” with a proven winning Heritage motor. It wins easy in my book
Luggage problem on the Suzuki still has not been adressed.
HONDA CBR 1000 R Black Edition
Suzuki- Optimus prime
Honda- Megatron
Autobots always win✌️🤣🤣
Suzuki, any day!
Nah
O-60???
3 seconds?
this bikes are perfect for me. I'm to old for a super sport and to young for a cruiser. hahahaha.
on the honda the quickshifter is not standard LMAO, same with the fireblade
wtf
This should of been done with the Katana not the Gsxs. Is the Honda 2k better than the suzuki? No way. This is your personal opinion aswell. My brother had the "uber" cool black edition and chopped it in for a gsxs, said the suzuki is 100% better than the Honda.
Gsxs looks good
I've ridden both machines but my views are completely opposite to this review . I found the Suzuki more of a scaple and more race oriented compared to Honda's cruiser like feeling and smooth engine delivery.
I think that if you are interested in any of these bike's then be your own judge.
What is going on with the price of motorbikes, its getting ridiculous.
I just wish honda was still utilizing their V4 engine. These inline 4 cylinder bikes are boring now
Have one want the other. Love mine always wanted that one. Gaaahhh
I Choose Suzuki Design & Power
Suzuki have fine tuned the gsxs to make it better to ride and at the same time ruined the styling imo
I Like suzuki