The Unfortunate Career Of The Ataris & Kris Roe
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2021
- The Ataris were one of the more successful pop-punk & punk-rock bands back in 2003, with their album So Long Astoria being certified gold.
This genre of music was extremely commercially successful at the time, with bands like Simple Plan & Good Charlotte beginning to take off, whilst Blink 182 were selling out stadiums.
They still have a decent following and play regularly, however they’ve ran into some trouble along the way - this video is going to cover the unfortunate career of Kris Roe & The Ataris including
2 members left just 2 years after So Long Astoria
They then had to leave Columbia Records soon after
Followed by guitar player John Collura leaving in 2008
Mike Davenport has had issues
Kris Roe has missed gigs / shows on tour and more
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What's up everyone! I wanted to put some nostalgic live footage in this video but the record label didn't like it :D Hopefully you all enjoy it! And let me know what you think
THANK YOU for this video. The Ataris were so, so good and “Welcome to Night” is still one of my all time favorite albums. This band deserved so much better than what happened to it. Kris is a genuinely authentic lyric writer. So rare to find.
Yeah they're a great band. Hope to see a 20 year So Long Astoria anniversary reunion tour
So glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Welcome The Night is hands down one of the best albums ever
I agree. It was great.
Kris and my dad were best friends growing up. I have his Atari 2600 from his childhood. He is a great guy. I've seen him in small venues, and big ones. I remember when he had the tour bus and all
So you have The Ataris Atari?
So Long, Astoria is one of my all time favorite albums. It has so many great memories for me. And yeah, I'm 36 now and still listen to that album on a regular basis
Me too.
I’m 36 too and still a favourite album 😊
I’m getting my first tattoo next week from lyrics from The Hero Dies in This One - Kris hand wrote the lyrics for me for the tattoo 😁
35 and same!!! Freaking same.
So long Astoria is when they started to suck. Anywhere but here is good, blue skies broken hearts is the best of theirs
Reminds me of good times. I remember them coming on the radio as we were leaving my high school graduation, on the way to, what would, be an awesome party
Then, that summer. Not having any responsibility. Waking up every day, going to the river, drinking with my friends, knowing I better enjoy those days while I had them. I knew it wouldn't last forever, so I enjoyed every day to the fullest.
I miss those days.. but I'm glad that I grew up, instead of being the weird, old guy at the party
I've been listening to the Ataris since '99 and got to be a part of the video shoot for "In This Diary" back in 2002. I remember my buddy calling me and saying "Dude, you're in the video!". Kris and the whole band were super cool during the shoot and between takes joked around with us in the crowd.
You know that thing a psychologist does when they ask us to go to our happy place? My happy place is The Ataris' "So Long Astoria". It's been almost 20 years since the album was released and I still listen to it religiously. I believe everything Kris Roe sang in it. Recently there was a good news. The Ataris are coming to my country in November and, finally, after 20+ years, I'll get to watch them live.
I went to see them from around 2008 to 2011 and I can confirm they did routinely play small venues with small crowds, but I have to really give Kris some credit. He mingles with the crowd during the opening acts and is just a really down to earth, nice guy (at least he was to me). I have a tremendous amount of respect for him and his writing. He may have some personal issues and it’s ridiculous to throw gear at your band mates, but For what it’s worth, he seems like a good guy and I always enjoyed seeing him.
Dude, hes a passionate musician, anyone passionate musician will get frustrated when your drummer doesnt hit the notes that your band practiced. He just exploded. :D
Saaame! I remember back in 2011 he played in a small venue near my town (in Italy), and his was selling his own mercy. We approached him and he was honestly so chill and friendly. He even gave us some free stuff!
@KRISROE ……….. NOMATTER WHO SAYS WHAT YOU FKKN ROCK AND ARE A LIVING LEGEND AND ARE LOVED BY EVERYONE!!! LOVE AND MUCH RESPECT FROM TEXAS 🤘🏻🤠🤘🏻💯☘️
So long Astoria is one of geniuses rock / punk rock album that ever Made, i have no dislike track, this album is brilliant, so many emotion they give for us. still headbanging until today, it still make me nostalgia about teenagers highscool time 2000's era, where i start to listen them as skater boy, who love play skate in the evening, and someone play their track. So much good memories.
I just saw The Atari's a month ago at the House of Blues in Cleveland w/ Everclear, they had a great set, really enjoyed it
Knocking it out of the park as always🚀
Thanks very much so glad you enjoy these I appreciate it!
@@davesmusicchannel3590 would love you to do a video on Fenix TX!
@@niamhjamie Ive never really gotten into them, only heard a few songs so wouldn’t be that good 😆
Good video subbed
i just knew them by last year. i repeated so long, astoria so many times and i enjoyed it so much till now. and then i started discover them with their older albums like end is forever, blue skies and anywhere but here and they became my new fav punk band. i mean they’re just good and fits well. i love kris’ songwriting but yeah after so long, astoria they’re just not good enough as their older albums and it’s just so sad that they can’t keep the same lineup :(
I'll always love Kris Roe and The Ataris.
I saw them in MD at a small show in 2009 when I was 16. He was out in the crowd mingling and I had idolized him so I was extremely nervous to go up to him. My friends encouraged me to and I awkwardly went up and just held out my hand, he wasn’t sure what to do and had a beer in the hand I was trying to shake. Talk about awkward! But anyway, the show was amazing and after he and the band stand and sold merch! My second attempt to meet him went much better. A super nice guy and a true hardworking musician! Will always love The Atari’s!
I heard that one reason the original members left is because Kris Roe got sober and fired the rest of the band to protect gis sobriety. Im not sure how true that is, but if it is, I get it.
Im lead to believe theres a lot of ego involved, and it really is ashame. They could have been huge. They now fit in this really gray place where they are an influential garage band. They play to practically no one, make crap money, and dont sell records, but the wrote a truly great record in 2003 that stuck with the teenagers who loved it long after we grew up.
Just recently started listening to Ataris again after forgetting about them for the ages. Kris Kroe wrote some brilliant songs
It's unbeliveable really. They were my favourite band since end is forever and still are up there. They could have been enormous after So long Astoria. Welcome the night is a tragic case of ego getting in the way of sense. It's was too much of a change. Funnily enough, their All Soul's Day ep was more in line with what the so long astoria follow up should have sounded like.
Music of my youth. So many memories about good old days
My old HS buddy and I decided to start doing pop punk covers from our youth. We always loved San Dimas HS Football Rules and we start digging through The Ataris albums this week. They remind me of NUFAN a lot. Never knew about their big on-stage drama, what a kick!
i can vouch for kris - back in 2001 i was 15 and at the asbury warped tour i asked kris if i could play san dimas with them, he said he'd already promised benji he could play since it was GC last day on the tour but if i went to nyc the next day i could play it with them. i went and sure enough he pulled me right on stage to play san dimas. i was the coolest thing that's ever happened, i felt like a god. kris is punk rock as hell and a man of his word.
That’s super rad!
I got to play San dimas with them at a show in Fresno, ca. Must have been around 2001. Kris was super nice as was the rest of the band. For three minutes I felt like a rock god. Thanks kris!
So long Astoria is one of my favorite albums ever
One of my favs!! I saw them at a dive bar in SLO California back in 2017, with 20 or 30 other people. Kris was super nice!
And as for Welcome the Night, I didn’t like it when it first came out since it was so different from their previous work, but the more I listened to it, the more I loved it. It’s now my favorite of their albums. Favorite songs from it are Cheyenne Line and From the Last, Last Call.
I’ve seen the Ataris/Kris Roe a few times, post-So Long Astoria. All of these shows were at smaller venues. Kris was very cool and cordial to fans before the set, during intermissions, and after the show.
It stinks because when I got Blue Skies in the summer of 2000, there was so much that surrounded that moment that happened to me, and it was a soundtrack.
Ha! This band. I played guitar with the drummer Chris Knapp when at Los Gatos high school during talent shows. Awesome dude.
I wasn’t the biggest ataris fan, I had so long Astoria and thought it was pretty good, so my and my friends went to their show on Portland at the crystal ballroom and it was completely packed. I think Rufio opened for them, and I really loved that band at the time. But I was blown away with the ataris set, the crowd was super into it. I will always remember that show because someone in the ataris through a guitar into the crowd and there was a massive swarm of people battling for it, and I remember security dragging this shirtless guy out of the pit who was all bloody. It was pretty wild, but overall one of the best shows I went to around 2005 - 2005
Had no idea about Mike. I have his pick from a show they played at a little record store in Long Island, along with a signed disk of so long astoria
He might be nice to his fans, but he should be nice to his bandmates too. I wouldn't want to be in a band with him.
When so long Astoria came out, about same time as lifestyle of the rich and famous, wow, what albums, what times to be a teenager.
I've been a big fan of the Ataris since the late 90's. Anywhere But Here and Blue Skies have been on my top ten favorite albums forever. I finally, finally, finally got to meet Kris Roe when they toured in the mid 2010's. Kris was running his own merch booth. Even though I was the only one buying a sweatshirt at the time, he was a little gruff, and only begrudgingly obliged to a photo. I understand the road must be grueling, and he probably gets asked for photos all the time, but it was a disappointing way to meet someone I've adored and respected for so long.
That certainly is disappointing, especially considering even at festivals I’ve seen them at they only play to a few hundred people so I’m not sure why a photo would be such a bad idea. Maybe the room was dark and he doesn’t like camera flashes? I dunno 😆
Prolly a bad day. I've met him a few times with the opposite reaction. The last show I went to (2018 I think?) there weren't that many people approaching him at the merch before the show (he was busier after) but he was nice enough to actually talk with me a while and even took a photo, with the only deal being I let him take the selfie on my phone haha
That fireball stage line up🤯
Teenage riot was my fave song of theirs, took me 2 weeks to learn the bass line by ear haha
Also a lot of bands have changed their line line over the years they didn't change their name or anything so its not really that bad.
Hmmm I would reach out and I interview Kris. He is the band.
so long astoria was the best album for me so far 👍👍👍
I opened for them solo back in 2011\2012 fun show I felt bad cause hardly anyone came out maybe about 100 kids. I had fun playing and watching them..
Nice,
This is one of the bands that changed my life.
I went to their concert in 2006 in Brazil and it was very good, except for the lack of lighting on the stage, which I later learned that was a requirement of Kris. The audience could barely see the stage it was so dark. A big disappointment for a big fan.
The Ataris was my favorite band along New Found Glory; Kris was kinda my hero and i was so into all of their music. When they put out "the graveyard of the atlantic" during the myspace era i used to design layouts for that site and i offered a custom made layout that Kris loved, then we started talking regulary, we were friends on facebook, and he replied all of my emails (it was like a dream come true); he promised that he'd send me a 7" when it was pressed and some personal photographies, the ataris memorabillia or random stuff; to me it wasn't about the amount of money that these objects may worth but to me it meant the world man, it was my hero, then he never sent me anything and lost contact. I won't say that Kris is a douche because it's not but he kinda broke my heart broken his promise. Anyways, i'll always love The Ataris but they're no longer my favorite. New Found Glory is still my favorite band haha, i had the chance to hung out with the dudes on NFG a couple times and they're awesome. Personally, Kris was kinda cool too, we hung backstage and he signed me an argentinean bill that i still have somewhere haha. Great video my dude!
That’s rad! Sounds like you had a really cool history together. I also remember making friends with bands on my space, that was so cool because it was the first time we could properly communicate with them. I’m now friends with Mike from the Ataris Due to me making this video, and he was kind enough to do an interview. I also stay in touch with John. They are both really really really nice
Kris Bought me and my friend Yager shots at a strip club in 2003-2005, when I brought up I loved the Next 12 exits, after the rise of the boys of summer. The boys got down with those Strippers for hours in the back, and they disappeared. He was really Nice.
I knew some of the members in the late 00s and what you're talking about all rings true. I believe that three or four of the members at that time were in a band around then called Park Ranger (I don't know them personally) and I heard their song "National Act" is about how poorly treated and underpaid they were as members. "Be grateful / say thank you for this opportunity / cuz you're going somewhere that you've never been / on a red-eye, coach-class, long line American Dream / for absolutely nothing." It's a good song.
IIRC one of their tours from that era was so poorly attended, and overbooked (meaning they were playing 1,000 person venues to 100 kids) that everyone got home and quit on him. They weren't making any money and Kris was allegedly a notorious asshole to deal with.
No idea if that's changed since then, but he sounded like a narcissist, a person who believed that his band was the second coming and more important than anything else in the world. Really, they were just a mediocre band during a mediocre era of popular music and there's not much nostalgia for them to cling to. Most of their fans have kids and families now. There are lots of bands from that era that managed to put together some successful tours, having developed a huge fanbase through word of mouth and streaming, e.g American Football and Mineral. No one's going to see The Ataris on a Wednesday for $25. It's just not happening.
Yeah the band hand no gas after that initial success, and labels usually don't drop a band after a successful album, but the label must have saw the ceiling for the band sooner than they did (the last rock band to make it big off a cover at that point was Alien Ant Farm, who had no chart gas after "Smooth Criminal"). Also, The Ataris were an average band who made a banger of an album, unfortunately So Long Astoria felt the strongest statement they were capable of, like were never capable of better than this. Something Corporate suffered a similar situation, but it's frontman wisely went solo
Kris Roe looks nothing today like he did 20 years ago. He obviously didn’t take very good care of himself, which is sad. I’m 44 so about the same age as him, and I still get carded for cigarettes.
Damn kick my guy while he's down
Kris is a cool dude I met him a couple times and always been a super cool dude and Ben let me photograph his blue skies tattoo so I could get a similar tattoo
I think one of the only times me and my 3 brothers were all together and happy was at an ataris show in denton tx @ rubber gloves
All Chris really needs to do is Keep doing what he loves playing music for the Ataris to make us million she should be a ghost rider that man knows how to write songs I’m surprise no one’s picked them up on the offer
Ghost writer, and no. He's not a good songwriter. He wrote a couple coming-of-age songs as a young dude that appealed to adolescent angst. His time has long since passed.
@@mskcrc Kris is easily a better writer than some of the bands from the same time that got more successful. I think it has way more to do with them going in an emo direction, and emo bands largely fading in popularity over time. Meanwhile, pop punk had a huge resurgence, while emo/pop post-hardcore never quite did.
@@punkgrl325 calling him the best writer is like saying that Spam is the best canned meat... he wrote four-chord pop punk songs with angsty adolescent lyrics -- let's not act like this dude was Bob Dylan over here
The Ataris is a great melodic hardcore / pop punk band! In 2000's has very sucess here in Brazil and around the world and I still listen Blue Skies and So Long Astoria! Music industry right now just like trap and similar.
Unfortunally bands like Ataris, Slick Shoes, Mest and others over time after time ...
Wait, Preston Waters played guitar for them??
The Ataris first CD was solid
Yo, that pic of them playing at the small venue, my band at the time played a show with them on that tour in Delaware. We asked him why they were playing at the particular venue and kris said that he wanted to return to his roots and do a tour playing little shows and smaller venues. So if that helps at all, that would be part of the reason for the small show you pictured there.
@GrandZenothis is a year late, but at the time they’d just finished a big tour with new found glory. So I doubt that having bad management would be the case. Sure it def does have an effect, but if they, at the time, could still get on tours like that, then i can’t say management was a real issue. Also, I’m just going off what he said himself. He wanted to do small venues. Not my opinion. His words.
The "Atarees". Thanks.
Hacen musica muy buena!
파주 북 소리? Drum sound of Paju? Curious about your shirt haha
Love the ataris since 2001. Saw them live many times in the early 2000s including 2003 warped tour. I also saw them maybe 5 years ago opening for the queers. You're right, he is super nice to all fans. Yeah he's definitely eccentric but most artists are.
Wow warped tour 2003 must’ve been nuts 😝 were Less Than Jake, Yellowcard and Simple Plan there as well?
@@davesmusicchannel3590 I don't remember but sounds right. Most of those bands played on every other warped tour back in the day so they all blend together.
I learned of this band from en episode of drake and josh from a poster on the wall
people tend to overlook how important looks are in a band, and the ataris is a clear example, if kris had look like kurt cobain or mark hoppus maybe the band would be much bigger
Good point. Pete Wentz played a big part in Fall Out Boys early success
Seeing them tonight
I know that they aren’t really a band anymore but this band means so much to me, they have gotten me through countless breakups and me almost killing myself. They inspire me to play my guitar more and harder, they may of had a lot of problems throughout their years as a band but life isn’t perfect. I love the ataris and Idk where I would be without their music
Keep in mind that Kris IS the Ataris. His first Album 'Anywhere But Here' was almost done by himself. He's even supporting 'Hoobastank' going by the Brand 'Kris Roe of the Ataris' on Oct 29. But yes, he's an awesome songwriter and singer. Love him since 1997.
They’re coming back for a few reunion shows with the SLA lineup 👍
Did you record this under a bucket?
some people don't have fancy microphones.
You should check out ELLEGARDEN. Legendary punk status in Japan. Newly reunited, new album, whole Amazon Prime Video doc about them too.
Ellegarden rules!
The best album is welcome the night. Sooooo good.
Yessss!
I fucking loved the Ataris, way before the commercial record.
unfortunate? they are not, who are you to say...they have their time.
Agree
So I knew Kris back in the day (he helped my band a lot back in the early 2000s)... he's a nice guy but can rub some people the wrong way simply because he's a perfectionist.
Personally, I think the bands downfall has more to do with pop punk losing steam. And the sound of the band "matured" at the same time. Thats just how it goes sometimes.
Ya this video is kinda not accurate at all
@@legendcitymusic I knew some of the members in the late 00s and this video is pretty damn accurate... and I wouldn't call him a perfectionist so much as a narcissist
I mean pop punk is having a resurgence and the The Ataris were one of the best in the genre IMO. They seemed to be on the cusp of making it huge and then...nothing. i remember buying End Is Forever and Blue Skies on release day at my local cd shop. Met Kris back then and he was super nice. Met him years later and didnt seem the same. Not sure what happened
@@markshadows3667 The problem is that the genre had a major "moment" and then it faded into more of a niche for jaded suburbanites and mall crawlers. Being the best of the studded-belt emo-pop-punk era is like saying your tattoo is the best of the tramp stamps.
And yeah, can you imagine believing that your band is on the cusp of stardom, and just a few years later, you're playing shitty clubs for pennies when some of your contemporaries went on to headline festivals? No wonder he's (allegedly) a prick.
I totally agree with this. I was TM for a band on tour with them in 2012. We were on tour with them for about 5 weeks. I was there the night he threw the drums. Band I was with played right before them.
My relationship with Kris was great and he taught me a great deal. I was in the room with he and I and promoter where Kris should have and could have been a huge asshole because show got moved to small venue, not many ppl showed up and were promised a good amount of money that the promoter obviously didn't make. He made sure our band and other opener got paid and worked out agreement with young promoter and was great learning experience for the guy who was just starting out and was way over his head negotiating deals.
Kris is professional and pleasant to fans, other bands and most he interacted with along the tour until someone doesn't hold up their end of the deal. At that point he needs to learn how to handle those times better. Kris might not be the best communicator in these cases. He is very different to the band mates.
He is a perfectionist and demands himself and mates continue to strive for a perfect show. He expects to get better every night and definitely isn't just going through the motions. As a fan, I think that's pleasing to hear that he wants it to be his best performance every time he plays.
The weirdest part of everything is there social interaction outside of the show. Kris always drove the bands van and they all had assigned seats. Might not seem like a big deal, but they hung a curtain between front and back seats like they were 1st class and 2nd class in a plane.. He also didn't sell any Ataris merchandise. He sold his main album and then sold Kris Roe art and photography..
I enjoyed watching this and reading comments. After the blowing up at drummer in Asbury Park NJ he played the last 3 nights by himself and he opened for band I was with to finish the tour out.
O love them
I honestly love emo music because I think it's the most relatable to me.
I love the "atarus"
He’s a hack. You can’t have an attitude like that and expect to succeed playing live music. There’s a reason there is an entire Wikipedia page devoted to the different members of the band.
I find the title of this video a bit off. Kris Roe is a lyrical genius in my mind, and he is very different to the other bands you mentioned. Just my humble 2 cents.
He cancel the tour twice in Indonesia, 2016 and 2022
I swear I remember the boys of summer in the 90s... weird
Dude, your wolf tattoo looks like Jar Jar Binks...
Maybe if you had a Banda would understand why the changes needs to be done and why people needs tu be replaced
Regards
I always thought "So Long Astoria" was a terrible album to be honest. Blue Skies was miles better.
What did he go to jail for? And when last did they release music?
I believe it was investment fraud or something - he ran a telemarketing scheme. They released an album in 2017 which isn’t bad, plus a demo album and an acoustic album in 2019
Great video. However. It is pronounced ‘The A-tar-ees’ not ‘the atarriss’. Like the gaming company from the 70s/80s.
Rip the last upload that got copyright claimed
Lol yep was a shame but hopefully this suffices
it's pronounced atari-s as in the game console.
its fucking true i saw him in the philippines drinking a boba ez to approach dude i have a picture with him
Please, The Unfortunate Career Of Senses Fail.
I'm still friends with Senses Fail
Also yes, I’ve met him a handful of times, and opened for them back in the day, and he is sooo super nice. Obviously he’s a shit sometimes, but when I met / saw him he was awesome.
Awesome! Hopefully I’ll have a video interview with one of the members soon
That’s what narcissists are. When one is so super nice that’s a red flag
In the states they still draw a crowd. I just went to a sold out show at the house of blues in Anaheim they did last week.
Wonder which fast food chain Kris is working at now?
Having 22 ex members is not what I'd call a good track record
He's going for Ben Weasel numbers
the uh tar ease
HD is ok. Bfd the real shit hole
Reach out to him and interview the guy. I'll admit, they're one of my biggest childhood influence so they're a massive weakness. Them and Hawthorne heights are my biggest influence. I think I still like those guys because of the valuable time invested in it. Growing up with it. It's apart of my identity and I wouldn't have it any other way. NFG and Simple Plan were just... Terrible. I cried on untitled and it wasn't in a good way. I just wanted it to end.
Oh, one more thing... HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME!!!!
Plus he went bald
Who went bald?
@@jillenehall301 Kris Roe. I think he was bald very early, hence the emo comb forward.
Now that I think about it, his hairstyle from the So Long, Astoria era looked like a wig.
please don't tell me im the only person that thinks welcome the night is their best...
(i don't really like pop punk)
The Ataris are dead.
Went to high school with chris rowe, he aint no perfectionest, hes a control freak...back in the day, if someone could play better then him, he didnt like it, and i saw him play before he left anderson with a few friends, as soon as they played something he didnt like or didnt know, hed act like a bitch...im not at all surprised hes had so many members in his band leave and im stil stunned he ever made it as big as he did.