"Traits Of Manipulating Psychopaths" - Jordan Peterson On The Traits Of Great Manipulators
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2024
- Jordan Peterson and Robert Greene discuss the traits that manipulating psychopaths have.
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Is the prevalence of psychopaths increasing in modern times?
Thank you for watching.
My theory is there always have been. Its just coming to light now. And the social networking has MADE people to be narcissists and sociopaths.
No. The prevalence of people who give up, who are lazy, and who are stupid is increasing. I would call that narcissistic rather than psychopathic.
Sure is! You're promoting some of them right here!
@@chipcook5346Anyone can be a psychopath these days and not have to pay the price for it. I would rather deal with a psychopath that has paid the price and actually earned the status than some chump online that can act without empathy and get away with it.
@@raminrouchi202 I've had year-long work relationships with psychopaths and narcissists. I'd pick a run of the mill psycho any day over a smart narcissist who has a couple of victim boxes checked.
‘You’re agreeable’
‘Yeah, I agree with you.’
😂
RotFL
When narcissists or psychopaths target you at work, don’t go to HR or management, nine times out of ten you will be seen as the troublemaker.
Amen! Just got fired with this scenario!
@@camillechapman3108I wouldn’t be surprised to find that HR types are high on the psychopath scale.
Fuck working just for that reason. All the better reason for people to be self-employed.
"When narcissists or psychopaths target you at work,"
If a psychopath had ever targeted you at work, you'd likely be permanently injured or dead and unable to post this.
As for narcissists, well, a dime-a-dozen in 2024, so, yes, they'll always be on your a$$.
Your clinical work is not yet done, Young Jedi.
It is true with HR. A conscientious boss will fire an unconscientious psychopath unless the psychopath is their office mistress.
"The only reason why little children do not do more evil is due to their weak limbs." St. Augustine.
I went to work at a private college, my alma mater, thinking I had found a home, one that was safe and secure. The faculty and staff were wonderful, but I encountered more psychopaths, sociopaths, and sexual deviants in the administration in five months than I had encountered in five years of network television.
I've worked in academia too, and it's vicious. A colleague said, "The fighting is fierce because the stakes are so low."
You're spot on. I went to work in education a few years back, at a CA community college in a very wealthy area. within the time I was there, the marketing dir. was arrested for molesting girls, the chancellor was fired for grift and corruption, and the people that weren't caught just practiced their own graft unabated. College administrations are so often uber-corrupt because they don't even need to exist. WHY are admins so bloated? They suck up all the $$ and leave nothing for the actual professors, who are treated like garbage.
Education, money, and elite status doesn't guarantee moral integrity. That exists and is violated at every level of society. Fortunately, there are also good people at every level of society, and I'm glad you found them.
@@karenk2409 I was laid off at the height of the 2009 recession. The faculty found out and in 48 hours they demanded and got the head of IT's resignation. They offered to sponsor me for a tenure track position if I pursued a Phd. My mom was diagnosed with cancer two weeks later. So I took care of her for 14 months until her passing and then went on to distinguish myself with Apple. It was a blessing in disguise to be free to be with her.
@TheMary0831 Same goes for hospital admins.
Me ...extremely extroverted, friendly, empathetic. Have encountered and been the target of many many of these "disagreeable" types. To awaken, one must learn to be non reactive to these types. Before I knew that, I SUFFERED.
I leave.
It is true. Any reaction just feeds their narcissism.
@Dreamwater777 Yeah, I've naturally become more like that, when someone is being aggressive , rude, threatening etc. I go unreactive. I don't argue or try to talk sense into them, just let them burn it off. Unless they get violent...then the fact that you're relaxed means you can actually move faster! I don't mean hit them, unless you have to, or are ''grappled'', then you fight like anyone else has to. But you can usually diffuse the situation by ignoring the abuse, while paying attention still to the person. Like a kind of passive mirror I guess. They seem to ''pick up on themselves'' somehow, as that's nearly all that they are left with/ is happening! (P.S. love the handle, kinda fits here!)
I do not think JP talked too much in this at all. He’s passionate about this topic. Good conversation
I worked at a factory job. There was a lot of Glossop, backstabbing, etc… As one who experienced bullying growing up I saw this as another form of bullying and harassment. Worse yet, the management as I saw, encouraged this in order to avoid accountability and responsibility as to their part. When passionate, compassionate, empathetic people see this they are the ones who tend to be the easy targets for harassment in the workplace. I myself almost suffered a severe mental breakdown. I decided in the end that working in such a toxic environment was not for me!! I see the ideology of the work place becoming more and more toxic and difficult for people such as myself because we are agreeable, honest, and capable workers. Ego steps in the way! I also believe that the increase of depression among people who are in this category is increasing exponentially!
I absolutely agree with you. Have been working in a lot of such environments. I never knew people could be this pathetic to bully or hurt other people to get their desired position or wanted outcome..
Factory jobs are totally incompatible with human nature, so it makes sense they breed disfunction. Imagine working in a slaughterhouse for a few years.
It sure can be everywhere, but I cannot imagine it is anywhere as bad as Hollywood, Merchant Bank c-suites or CZcams streamers.
@@wordup897 So if these jobs bring this behaviour in we are just supposed to ignore it? Sounds like avoiding the issue.
@@wordup897 so does that mean we we let this behaviour go? Management in the industry I worked for let this happen because they didn’t want to deal with it. It was easier to let the ass kissers/ back stabbers continue in this behaviour. This is happening in many workplaces than you may think. Do the research! When someone comes out with a statement such as this it really disappointing and tells me that they don’t see the forest through the trees. I feel sorry for you.
Please let this genius Robert Greene speak
That's a good point, I thought psychologists were trained to listen. He's using Robert to make the points he wants to make rather than allow Robert to make his own points and have a genuine discussion.🙂
no, it's a discussion. you can find his monologues if you're into him
@@MrElliottjcyes absolute right.
I think also that he did not diguest a lot of stuff in his own actual life and that is the reason why his mind takes over to make a point.
He should have rituals to ground himself and diguest.
@@democratictotalitariansoci1462you’re totally wrong. It’s not a discussion when you constantly interrupt the other without allowing him to finish his thought.
@@funkymonk5344 I don't think that he has his own thoughts
Both of these men are highly insightful. This is top caliber
Dr. Peterson, I'm one of your greatest fans. But please try to let your guests finish their points before you cut in. You have a lot of great guests, but I'm always left disappointed because you cut them off and I don't get to hear their thoughts.
I think JBP allowed Greene to answer, but, elaborate … Not so much. 🕊
I stopped listening to him because of his ego. When you cut off someone, you’re not mindful or present aware enough to notice (or maybe he does and doesn’t care = ego). His mannerisms are not humble basically he was rude and I’m sure he doesn’t respect all people. Any person who does this, is not someone I would follow or be agreeable with.
Politicians and Hollywood are going down!!! Let’s all turn away from the corrupt celebrities n never look back. Give your attention n time to something wholesome n worthwhile 🌍
Hollywood, some are the most! They think there God! Adored, come where we live. Your just a person, money or not money. Don’t care, if your a good person?
Hundred percent.
We can make the world MUCH BETTER, if we only would focus on the better
@@Nondualstandpoint01 What to do about people like the insane C C P ( Chinese Communist Party) though, without involving our own politicians, I don't know.
a psycho will always rise to the top, they don't feel empathy and will use and abuse anyone they can. They run our governments and are the real powers that be.
True, but they are not immune to other psychos.
They all fight amongst themselves for power and there can only be 1 or 2 top dogs at a time.
They can’t hide forever thankfully
They don't always
They also never get nervous or afraid no matter what they do. That scares me even more.
There are certainly plenty at the top, a much higher % than in regular society, but far, far from 100%.
When the interviewer answers all his own questions...
😂👏👏
They are having a discussion.
Yes. Jordon has a problem with that. More like thinking aloud though. Still, interesting...
It was mostly a monologue… narcs hate to share spot light! He tested the waters first to see how Greene described himself; as soon as he said he is an empath Jordan feels he is in his element! Talking non stooping with not respect to the guess and just ruining the hole interview
😂😂
I love you Jordan, but for the love of God, let the other guy speak
The other guy? You don't know who Robert Greene is?
They both narcissist Robert Green said he is one. Not to mention it’s different types. They both understand and respect each other. It’s not a fight to chat you can individually look up both and listen to them separately.
It drives me crazy wh3n interviewers don't let the guest speak.
Jordan is a narsissistic psychopath. He won't let anyone else speak.
lol
Since I can remember I have been affected by how people can mistreat each other and myself. I think it messed me up. I have had anxiety and depression and ADD.
The issue is who will hold this person accountable..... It's scary ...
Jordan let the man speak
What tf are you watching? People are winney poozys
This is some very important wisdom. We must get educated about manipulation if we are going to live in peace with each other. Psychopaths look the same as you and me but their behavior will give them away if we know how to rub them the wrong way. The wise person knows how to make the test.
And how you test them=)? Give an example...
Act convincingly as the devil's advocate to draw out the hidden agenda's. Pretend to agree or disagree with someone that you want to test. Rub someone the wrong way. Insult the person in question. I have exact examples, but they are private. @@ayamata8950
This. If I am going to teach my kids anything in life is that before you trust anyone in life to be your boss or spouse you have to see how they behave privately when they are not happy and have some amount of power over you. No amount of other techniques is a substitute.
I think the Basics of Psychopaths, is:
~ Timely, Calculated
Planning
~ They Don’t Need a
Personal Reason that
you started to want
to Take You Down
~ They cause Pain, & then
Derive Enjoyment fm.
your harm. 🕊
@@janiecepoush1904😢 not okay!!!!
I feel hard for one, took 15 years to get him out of my heart. Deeply resentful manipulators go hard at me bc I make them feel better than they can be.
Ufffff 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 lol lol lol * snorts cough*
Jordan and Robert TOGETHER?!?! There's hope for humanity yet.
Robert who?
There is no hope for humanity if Peterson is the person you look for ideas on how to behave as a mature, empathetic and intelligent person. Peterson described himself perfectly when he was explained how 2 years behave and the reasons for that behaviour. He has spent his life trying to hide his ugly, egocentric, disagreeable and unconscionable self.
Not sure if you’re reading comments Dr Peterson, but you have to decide if you’re interviewing or psycho analyzing your guests. I love your content, however sometime it’s hard to listen because you don’t let your guests talk
JP doesn't care.
This is 8+minutes, full episode is 1'43". You are judging the book by it's cover...
I much admire JP but he talks too much , always wanting to hold forth instead of allowing others much time to develop their points. He frequently interrupts RG and I have seen this happen when in conversation with several other people.
Exactly. Holding forth. Often wish I could hear more of the other speaker's thoughts.
Probably some ADHD in him. In some small similarities I do this occasionally when chatting but then I realise I need to remind myself to shut the f up and allow my compassionate ear to hear out those who I am having a conversation with.
I would suppose that when one topic relates to another it is in that moment to bring forth a new point which is carried by the previous statement, which actually adds to the topic of discussion. I hear what you guys are saying though as people have noticed it where he sometimes jumps from one stepping stone to another but in my opinion (which means nothing) he's just really excited to continue talking about it.
The man is just a very fast thinker.
Agreed. But his fault comes from enthusiasm more than a need to shut others down. He can listen properly if he puts effort into it.
It‘s probably genetic.
That's why they pay him the big bucks. He never really tells us anything, but the title and thumbnail stick.
Omg I was the “greedy baby” the guy is talking about. My mom said I used to throw empty bottle across the room yelling “milk!” (or “ilk” cos I couldn’t say milk yet😂)
Maybe you were Out of the 100% Milk Phase & Needed Some FOOD. Don’t know? But, Lazy or Unknowing Mom’s Can misjudge a Baby’s Needs. You may have simply been underfed! Don’t Know! 🕊
Bottles???!!!
One who's seen oneself, knows oneself
Robert Green always will always be 10 steps ahead, his strategy ..
Johnny Carson could have a temper and was reportedly sometimes mean when he was drunk. Rather than being called a psychopath, these were considered traits somewhere within the normal range of human emotions
It's a spectrum. Something like Jesus Christ, Walter Payton, Johnny Carson, Ted Bundy, Joseph Stalin.
I don't know him but people can be mean or have a temper without being one of these monsters. The difference is the monsters know what they are doing is wrong and they literally do not care - they plan to use it to their benefit and consider it the right thing to do. They have zero empathy or remorse.
I disagree, I think they are trying to just inform us about psychopath.
Living with one & being highly sensitive. I find this very informative!
It appears that these two were working out who is the alpha. Yet Robert Greene patiently rode out Jordans knowledge interruptions. For the good of the podcast. I found it interesting and a lil annoying the times Jordan interrupted Robert.
It would have been funny if Robert shut off his camera and ended the podcast after the sixth interuption or so.
That’s not how “alpha” behavior works, not least in an intellectual discussion. You’re bringing in primate/wolf hierarchical systems into the wrong paradigm.
Two geniuses in a conversation. I could sit and listen to them talk day and night. They are explaining us.
Lets reflect, have you ever manipulated, have you ever made a mistake, have you ever hurt someone, have you ever taken anything that is not yours without asking first...? Do you always look pleasant, smiling, are you always feeling happy...? A good point to start is humbly and honestly admit our weaknesses and correct them first before judging and evaluating others. With ❤ Rev.M
Great, I am needing to listen to this conversation once again.
perfect description - never heard it described this way before.
great discussion. have seen a lot of psychopaths and the damage they have done to culture...people. have quit many places due to this. finally hired a lawyer...tired of being the person that had to leave to keep my sanity.
Jordon, you're talking over the gentleman you're interviewing. He who talks most....
I fully understand why Johnny Depp got away from Hollyweird ,he is introvert and a very humble and goodhearted man. The reason so many on this earth love him.
What a great conversation.
Robert Greene and Peter Jordanson, is it christmas ?
It seems to me that Jordan Peterson always does most of the talking. I wish he could really listen to Robert Greene instead of his own voice. I do enjoy hearing what he has to say, but give the other guy a chance to speak.
he's a total narc, pathological, probably a psychopath too
This. I enjoy his insights, but he likes the sound of his own voice too much.
@antiochiaadtaurum3786 He has none of those traits you mentioned. Stop assuming.
When you have the most brilliant mind alive in front of you, let him speak. You are have nothing better to do than listen and learn.
@@chupamelamingadominga lol
who else was waiting for other celebrities to be referred to like Ellen de Generes? 😅
What a treat - two wizards engaged in an intellectually provcative discussion.
Reminds me I need to clean my garage. Thank you Jordan. Sincerely.
I love JP …but he has a tendency to break up someone’s conversation , to interrupt …..
I wasn’t hoping for a monologue lecture type experience from either man; I like the back-and-forth, sometimes overlapping of comments in conversation. A lot of criticism of JP comes from people who can’t follow ordinary conversation of people with a lot of ideas to share.
@@tessangelabeck8958he interrupted Robert Green, who was referencing the superficiality and unscrupulousness of people in LA/Hollywood as part of a greater point, to say “and they’re obsessed with FAME! people in Hollywood also have an obsession with fame” no shit, buddy. Thanks for killing the rest of Greene’s greater point to interject the unrelated but widely known fact that yes, in fact, those Hollywood types want fame.
Green gives very precise, relevant, and easily understood (yet usually not widely known) anecdotes and stories for his setups and to make his point more interesting and easy to picture across multiple setups/situations. He presents his information like a scientist would, with appropriate language to be clear about the amount of evidence and correlation vs causation for things he’s hypothesised. Meanwhile, Peterson is all conjecture and he states his hypothesis or outright personally held opinion/belief as if it were proven fact.
One of these guys knows what he’s talking about and is a reliable source for information bc he tells you exactly what he’s gleaning it from. The other guy is so drunk on his own pseudo intellectualism and self importance that he feels the need to interject so everyone can hear him contribute shit like “Hollywood people want fame”
I listen to smart people sharing ideas all the time and they do it in a way that is relevant and measured and doesn’t seem like watching a dog with a bone like Peterson does. His agenda is always too personal, too prone to his own bias. He finds his proof to fit his belief, not the other way around. The smartest stuff he says is when he repeats someone else’s points.
I’ve wanted so badly to like him since the near decade ago I heard him summarizing his book on Maher I think? It’s still written in my reminders “get 12 rules for life” and I did eventually get it, btw, and I genuinely thought it was a joke until I realized it wasn’t. What I can’t abide is how emotionally affected he gets when met with any pushback, how rude and susceptible to bias he is, how desperate he is to find a winner and a loser in every situation, and how completely belligerent he is when buying into and defending his own subjective “observations”
He cherry picks and brings his ego to every subject as if it were an unruly child screaming during a dinner party.
I will acknowledge my bias in that Greene is my favorite author and I’ve read all of his stuff and really wanted to hear more from him in this. But JP would probably annoy me just the same if he were interviewing somebody lame like Katy Perry or Ted Cruz or whatever. He’s cosplaying intellectualism and the worst part is he’s convinced _himself_ that he’s a genius
Jesus Christ that’s long, sorry. I didn’t realize I’d typed so much.
@@JacyndaMinor Well . . well done! You offered a thorough and articulate descriptions of Peterson’s response and speech style. I wonder if his style in conversation could be accepted as being intended only to give agreement or endorsement to Greene. I’ve never listened to what Greene promotes but just believe you that his expertise is important to hear. Do you have a feel for the timeline on this in relation to when Peterson completed his hospitalization for use of a drug that potentially could help him not go nuts in panic about the extreme illnesses that have grabbed his daughter and his wife? I’ve been a bit distracted by a couple health setbacks myself and have done limited reading online but I was very concerned for Jordan. I admire the many times I’ve seen him apologize and admit to having a temper that flashes. I’m sure he knows very well that he often can’t quite keep up with the speed of his thoughts. He also has described experiencing extreme depression. He seems compelled to think about everything, and often I find his opinions quite valuable, but he might interrupt also partly of concern that he’s going to miss making a point that he imagines is fair to inject into the conversation. I have a hard time keeping up with fast exchanges and am horrible at following the ball in spectator sports. I do much better at comprehension when I can read a story. Anyway, I think I have admitted to enough imperfections in communication. Your analysis is very appreciated.
@@JacyndaMinor You just like to hear yourself type :)
Thanks!
Thank you for the support and for watching.
When did this happen. I have to find the whole thing. Thank you for sharing this 👍🏼
Link for the full interview in the description. Thank you for watching.
I learned nothing aside from the fact that a psychopath will talk over and through his guest at every opportunity. Why ask a question and then talk right over the guest? Was that the point? If so, this should have been entitled “Observable traits of a psychopath”. Well done
Poleeze!
Id call it narcissism
I love Peterson. He can be pedantic. He cares so much about truth and accuracy his interactions come off less humane (except with family or close friends). Greene has a better balance of intellect and humanity consistently.
The hour long debate on the definition of truth with Sam Harris was almost funny. Fry and Laurie have a sketch satirizing pedantry. Peterson would get a kick out of it. He’s serious but not lacking humility in fair context.
Two of my favorites ❤
I find when Jordan is being interviewed, or by himself, is much easier to listen to
Love this conversation but its criminal that Jordan is interrupting so often
The challenge is to stand your ground with grace and dignity to where you are heard and respected by these people...not sure that can be achieved though.
Excellent, I would like to see more of this but with the focus on psycho serial killers and the worst world leaders hitler Stalin etc
Peterson-what about Netanyahu?? You ate meals with him - a psychopath?? Or, no, because he can help your ambitions?
I work for one, smiles in groups or people, hateful, jealous and vindictive one on one. Was fired from his prior job for. Bullying. On a good note the retired him, next Friday is his last day. …corporate world is full of these types.
Record all conversations, if there’s witnesses make note of person date and time, hire lawyer on retainer.
This is absolutely fascinating. (I'm too agreeable.)
The monsters eat the monsters, obviously
They tend to offer simple solutions and simplistic definitions to complex issues. Such as this one.....
It’s a short clip. No one would accuse either of being simplistic when allowed to expound fully.
@@pnwlady Yes I'm sure the full clip is so saturated with contradictions, digressions and vague correlations as to be meaningless altogether.
@@corybarnes2341 sounds like you know everything already. Good luck with that. 😂
There are no free riders. Those people who are agreeable are taking way more from psychopaths and they have horrible boundaries.
I so wanted to hear what this gentleman had to say.
This a shot in the dark. Just avoid fake people. The signs are there, you just have to look for them.
Be aware of how a person treats service people, waitresses, etc. They treat them like dirt? run
@@kathyhansen2820 I suppose you could say the same about how service people treat their customers. I'm a very merciful and patient person (to a fault) which is why I had to learn how to set boundaries and that, at times, sadly requires being not the most pleasant.
Is there full conversation?
Link in the description. Thank you for watching.
JP interviews usually consist of, 75-90% JP speaking and 5-10% of the person he's interviewing speaking.
Seems JP meeting up with other powerful people and well,kinda showing he is up there with them and they hold him in esteem(so he gets their followers attention too). Also on the surface JP might “look Like” he smarter by controlling the pace and direction of conversation. All men are macho men and working their survival “act” from bullies by being Stronger,faster, or smarter than. With JP’s back round and chosen profession he definitely went with the smarter than act.
When im around people who's are appetite for money I'm eating with no control.Thay makes me do smth with no control.
Please stop interrupting Robert Greene! He could barely establish a train of thought without you trying to showcase your knowledge when he’d talk.
Jordan, your view does not have to be shared at every topic that arises. Let your guests talk for goodness sake, and just listen
This is probaly why be wrote the book to protect agreeable ppl
A bully only understands a bigger bully🤣🤣 chronic problem being toxic, not necessarily produces nothing good.
JP likes his own voice...
That is yoir opinion.
I'd like my own voice, too, if it was as nice as his. You sound jealous.
So do we
I think I am pretty agreeable, UNTIL someone tries to take advantage of me, then I go sometimes too far the other way sometimes. I loan stuff out maybe to readily, but if the person doesn't return my stuff or "forgets" to bring it back, then I lose it! And I don't like seeing others get taken advantage of either. So what personality type is that?
You sound a little like me…. It could well be co-dependent. As a child I was run over, boundaries destroyed. So, I would just assume folks would be as generous as me… and again and again, I was proven wrong and didn’t really learn much from it only to become resentful over time- which is for me to fix. So now the work is decernment…, slow to saying yes, and a willingness to learn when I get it wrong and misjudge the person.
What book is he referring to?
48 laws of power
Is it possible to be compassionate and empathetic, and competitive, both at the same time, and during the same incident?
My eldest son was a greedy baby and turned out autistic. He is very nice but very easily led.
I’d love a one to one with Jordan. I feel like he’d straighten my *stuff* out.
I generally like Jordan Peterson and think he is incredibly intelligent. But, one thing about him I can't stand: he likes to be the one speaking. He always interrupts the other person, just doesn't seem to have the ability to just let them finish.
Yup, seems to have quite the ego now doesn't he? Wonder how much the fame and money has gone to his big head. Talking about the sociopath he as stated he would have voted for over Hillary, seems he was foolish enough to believe the lies about her.
Letting them finish and not pinning things down is just letting them go thru a cycle of trying to explain problems incorrectly
He's a lecturer? Listen and learn.
@@johngalvin3124 So why bother having a guest speaker on?
You know I used to think every man deep down is a narcissist on some level but this man is not. I wish to God my friend had a husband that had his everything.
Men don't stare at mirrors for an hour everyday.
Men are low empathy, high ego beings.
The amazing person who wrote a book
Has no name in this ???
Amazing work obviously some are envious
Insight is essential 🎉
Your blowing JPs ego out of his comfort zone.
My 2 favorite men. 💖💖
The thumbnail😂
As for the interrupting this is normal in a limited timeframe.
We have a bunch of adults that never matured past 2. I believe we mix up civilized with socialize because they are actual are about the same, all the same we don't have a good definition of civilized.
As some other people have said, when you are sharing clips of conversations between two people, please put both names in the title.
The title supports just a certain amount of words. Hence, why all the information is in the description. Both names, link to their channel, and link for the full interview. Thank you for watching.
But it's only Peterson talking here.
@2:55 Psycopaths in my Country is more like 60-70%
Where do you live? Hell?
@@phantom.wreath Greece. They all have to act like that or they are called stupid because you cant survive if you dont exploit people.... Its rare to find someone thats not very intensely putting their short term needs first in friendships e.t.c And it doesnt have to be poor or not. Rich companies exploit for 10-50euros per month as well... Even if they have millions Check Greek corruption index en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
Well probually not but if you rank low on Maslow heiracry of needs people get desperate and start to display psychopathic traits
Same.
Must live in NYC
Can an agreeable person wise up and become more careful to keep psychopaths fenced off? Can they become comfortable with righteous self preserving aggression?
Too many people are already disagreeable, unkind, lacking in compassion, and certainly not exemplifying the character of Christ despite occupying seats in church pews every Sunday.. I know Mr. Peterson is not encouraging violent or mean behavior but dim men will assume so. He has repeated this message for a long time, and it is too complex for many males in particular. They will interpret what he is saying as "OK, it's cool to be a bad-azz." We are now living in a culture in America where everybody wants to be a bad-azz as they don't want to be seen as "weak" or "too sensitive", Is this message working on a practical level? Look at the mental health and suicide statistics. It actually takes extraordinary inner strength to be compassionate and kind. Without kind, compassionate, and generally agreeable people life would be even more difficult than it already is. Yes, we all have a "shadow self" but being conscious of that is enough. Mean people suck...
I disagree 🙂
I came for the on camera off camera click bait ……it didnt show up, so THWY
What scares me about people is that they all seem to agree that they have a different side.....a bad side, a shadow side, etc,. I don't think I have.....so I don't understand that part of people. Is it true that everyone has "another" side?
Yep. It'll help protect you. Sounds like you had a stable life growing up?
@@mariatorres9789 I actually grew up in a household with multiple narcissists.
You don't get super angry? sad? bored? worried? Watch your behavior in those situations and you will see how it changes. People who are highly aware of it can keep it under management but they are rare. Everybody has it.
I like the greedy baby story. I think I had one! Lol
Jordan speaks truth.
Sometimes.
That's a function of talking so much.
But JP blathers as much bullshit as truth
I came here to listen to JP speak. So I don’t mind if she takes on the bulk of the conversation
I wish JP would stop interrupting everyone he speaks to and let them finish their train of thoughts. His podcasts are becoming unbearable to listen to. So rude and arrogant.
So annoying how Jordon cut Robert off when he was in the middle of a sentence.
This like the best crossover ever is lie watching god and Jesus Christ sitting in the table and drinking coffee while discussing about the doomsday and the future of humankind
At 6:11, I am 62 years old, very high on the agreeable and empathic scale, have never met an agreeable woman in my life.
maybe you attract similar pp on the agreeable scale :)
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Computer stimulations are only as free of prejudiced as a programmer, so we should not trust them completely.
5:00 Jordan, basically what you said (by 5:00) with psychos it's about nature, they're borne that way..., not 'trauma', not 'inferiority'..., just like Behaviorals say.
It would seem Peterson appears to be 'talking over' Greene. Peterson launches into 'lecture mode', which is his natual default: although he is an inexhaustible fount of knowledge, like all know-it-alls, he can be insufferable - the "gotta be the smartest guy in the room' is an occupational hazard of being a 'public intellectual' I guess.
The problem I have with psychology is the categorical description of people with personality disorders. Doesn’t nature nurture environment come in? Not all psychopaths kill people or manipulate or hurt people.
Yes.
What do you mean?
@@daniellechoquette9245 basically slapping a label on someone like “psychopath” or “narcissistic “ is not definitive. Not all psychopaths are serial killers and not all narcissists are manipulative. People are complex and science is based on theories. Everything is on a spectrum. Low risk to very high risk based on certain characteristics according to forensic science which is different criteria than clinical psychology.
IMO it’s biased to lump all people with psychopathy as killers. They are 1% of the population according to THEIR research based on the criminal population. Not all psychopaths or narcissists are criminals or manipulators.
Research shows that adults with personality disorders developed by neglectful and abusive practices by caregivers and betrayed by people who were expected to protect them. Sexual abuse is also a factor that causes traumatic outcomes especially those with certain traits like psychopathy (born) and sociopathy (made). They learn how to identify weaknesses in people and manipulate them. Laws mean nothing to them. They know how to make good or bad choices. They do not tend to foresee consequences because they have no fight or flight reaction. Sociopaths do and learn how to find loopholes to make it easier to commit crimes and avoid detection.
Let me watch..
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hide;)
JP knows it so well because its all the same traits he uses. lol