Monza's Vedano Course - The Post-War Monza F1 Layout

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  • In 1938 the Monza Vedano Road Course was built, a 6.292 km layout that was not used for racing until 1948 due to the breakout of World War 2. Between 1948-1954, this layout was used to host Grand Prix racing at the Monza circuit. This layout was also used in the original F1 Italian Grand Prix at Monza dating back to 1950 in F1's inaugural season, until 1954 when it got replaced with the more well-known Road + Oval full course again.
    This Formula 1 hotlap is driven in Assetto Corsa with Charles Leclerc in the F1 2022 Ferrari F1-75 car.
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Komentáře • 125

  • @EMANUEL-vt8ok
    @EMANUEL-vt8ok Před 2 lety +391

    Forgotten layout. Many people think that the oval was always but it was destroyed after 2ww due the safety. In the mid 50s oval and parabolica made a comeback.

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety +76

      Yeah exactly, the older oval was actually bigger! Might have to make a video on that too!

    • @gufo_tave
      @gufo_tave Před 2 lety +26

      Actually, the original oval it was removed in 1939

    • @federicotombolini_
      @federicotombolini_ Před 2 lety

      The Parabolica didn't exist until 1955.

    • @BlocAutosport
      @BlocAutosport Před 2 lety +3

      @@Mitsos1311 it was? i always thought it had about the same lenght, but the banking was much less steep.

    • @jamwil200
      @jamwil200 Před 2 lety +11

      @@BlocAutosport If you look on racingcircuits info, you can see that the pre-war oval was 2.79 miles and the post-war oval was 2.64 miles. The length was lost by moving the southern turn further north, and the new banking was, as you say, much steeper.

  • @Lemur39
    @Lemur39 Před 2 lety +198

    Interersting how the track can evolve so much, in terms of safety and layout.

  • @justseccoo7853
    @justseccoo7853 Před 2 lety +76

    being from monza this is like one of those grandads films but with a 350km/h car in it. gorgeous

  • @JingelJjay
    @JingelJjay Před 2 lety +13

    I think it's great that F1 improved its safety standards from hay stacks and trees to tyres and fences.

  • @derPorsche911er
    @derPorsche911er Před 2 lety +32

    At this Curcuit Monza looks easy and very closely.

  • @aaric107
    @aaric107 Před 2 lety +14

    3 braking zones, honestly a very fast track

    • @francesco5254
      @francesco5254 Před 2 lety +9

      If you use a modern F1 car, there are 3 braking zones. If you used an F1 car back then, you probably would have needed to brake in other quick corners too

    • @Obi-WanKannabis
      @Obi-WanKannabis Před 2 lety +2

      @@francesco5254 6 braking zones in a 50's f1 car

  • @diego__rl
    @diego__rl Před 2 lety +6

    The impresive thing is that they learned the track layout without dying

    • @oaz8
      @oaz8 Před 2 lety

      for me what is more impressive is how they judge their braking zone when there is no reference for braking zone

    • @diego__rl
      @diego__rl Před 2 lety

      @@oaz8 yep, thats why I said without dying xd

  • @bretgamertv
    @bretgamertv Před 2 lety +17

    Without the Oval it's a bit upsetting 😡

  • @3DWorldMan
    @3DWorldMan Před 2 lety +4

    finally, lesmo 3 and 4

  • @SuraSzellem
    @SuraSzellem Před 2 lety +3

    Imagine hitting one of those apex bales at speed

  • @andre_star7776
    @andre_star7776 Před 2 lety +8

    If we exclude the 1963 Full Course this was the fastest Monza on a current F1 car

  • @user-darkpet
    @user-darkpet Před 2 lety +7

    This historical track is also like 1930s.

  • @Valve3065
    @Valve3065 Před 2 lety

    This is why ,i love Assetto Corsa 🌹

  • @ItsAdamHere
    @ItsAdamHere Před 2 lety +5

    Make the old 1999 Italian GP like what we saw in old turn 1 on Monza.

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 Před 2 lety

      The one with the double chicane right? That's an interesting layout IMO

  • @OdoruCuriosidades
    @OdoruCuriosidades Před 2 lety +2

    This circuit was originally done in F1C by Jalnervion. Currently there is a WIP about this circuit for the same game.

  • @LightningHotlaps
    @LightningHotlaps Před 2 lety

    congrats on reaching 50,000 subscribers!

  • @torpedo.builder
    @torpedo.builder Před 2 lety +1

    I don't know how, You Made Me Replay This Video 27 times

  • @hilimediagbr
    @hilimediagbr Před 2 lety +6

    Thank you !!!!!!! Best Monza layout ever

  • @mistashadow
    @mistashadow Před 2 lety +48

    Ah, the bliss of Monza without chicane.
    Though this track feels a bit too taxing on the engine, being flat out for so long
    That said, if you joined the longest full throttle sections from every F1 calendar track, how long would it be?

    • @Arjan_dv
      @Arjan_dv Před 2 lety +6

      long

    • @vani1030
      @vani1030 Před 2 lety +12

      honestly, i prefer monza with the three chicanes. i dont know, it looks so bland without them. maybe thats just the scenery though, but having a more or less constantly full throttle track just seems a bit eh

  • @xKiwinty
    @xKiwinty Před 2 lety

    sprint races on this track would be sick

  • @alexhndr
    @alexhndr Před 2 lety +3

    Back when Monza is a bonafide *pettanko*
    The banking saved this track ngl

    • @gufo_tave
      @gufo_tave Před 2 lety +1

      Actually, i think this version is not very well reproduced. Compare with a 67 version (the only changes are the oval and the Parabolica)

  • @micheledinapoli6435
    @micheledinapoli6435 Před 2 lety

    Just a video like this is scary. Imagine it with 1950’s cars

  • @javierlucero1300
    @javierlucero1300 Před 2 lety +1

    Good

  • @imnotsebastianvettel5722

    The real temple of speed😌

  • @UggieNL
    @UggieNL Před 2 lety +1

    That Parabolico tho 😅

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety +2

      Non-existent haha

    • @gufo_tave
      @gufo_tave Před 2 lety

      This track version was built in 1939. The Parabolica (now Alboreto's corner) was built in 1954, together with the odiern Oval

  • @andrelopes3912
    @andrelopes3912 Před 2 lety

    “I dont like it. I love it love it love it. woho”

  • @kevinhaakede
    @kevinhaakede Před 2 lety

    Gigachad layout

  • @asianlad9203
    @asianlad9203 Před 2 lety

    Its like they replaced parabollica with two lesmos

  • @kukuhnugroho8422
    @kukuhnugroho8422 Před 2 lety

    The real TEMPLE OF SPEED !!!

  • @rickmar3981
    @rickmar3981 Před 2 lety +1

    🤩🤩

  • @1pac947
    @1pac947 Před 2 lety +1

    ngl this looks more like a gun than a racetrack

  • @clemsgambato6011
    @clemsgambato6011 Před 2 lety

    waiting to see monza post WW3

  • @FrittenFriseurLPs
    @FrittenFriseurLPs Před 2 lety

    It surely is a safe feeling to shoot down the track next to 2000 trees

  • @timm.7988
    @timm.7988 Před 2 lety

    OG Baku City Circuit

  • @navtej1307
    @navtej1307 Před 2 lety

    give us this one with no drs and old school slipstreaming

  • @Kualinar
    @Kualinar Před 2 lety

    In those pre-parabolica turns, are those actually cobblestones ?
    Those hay balls «protections» where actually death traps in disguise.

  • @akhdanwirataram4911
    @akhdanwirataram4911 Před 2 lety

    So there is this new Formula E track in Jakarta and it would be lovely if you do a banker lap with any car of your choosing
    That would be greatly appreciated 😊

  • @lampros2294
    @lampros2294 Před 2 lety +1

    @mitsos what wheel are you using mate?

  • @gufo_tave
    @gufo_tave Před 2 lety +7

    Interesting idea, to make this version of Monza but the location of some corners (like the Serraglio, too close to the 2nd Lesmo) is wrong.
    Also, i think (not 100% sure) that some buoldings on main straight are wrong.

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety +11

      The whole mod looks wrong tbh

    • @mcbeaulieu
      @mcbeaulieu Před 2 lety +1

      It seems based on an "I think it looked like that the last time I saw it 15 years ago" GPL version 😂😂

    • @Obi-WanKannabis
      @Obi-WanKannabis Před 2 lety +1

      Where is the elevation after the lesmos, there is no way that whole area was flat back then, land doesnt change shape that quick

  • @qafmeister
    @qafmeister Před 2 lety +2

    Where do you take this tracks from? I know you can download for racedepartment.

  • @HarryRail08
    @HarryRail08 Před 7 měsíci

    The track does not exist on the site from description. Could someone share, please?

  • @Zenvitic
    @Zenvitic Před 2 lety +1

    Fun fact: From 1938-1954, The Vedano course (And the Pirelli Test Course) which was barely used actually touched the oval course and was right next to it, Luckily there has never been a race where they used both the Vedano course and the Oval course, or else.. Something bad could happen at the Vedano turn.

    • @ymeshulin
      @ymeshulin Před 10 měsíci

      Every tried to do any research before posting this crap?

  • @MNA5715
    @MNA5715 Před 2 lety

    Do you think you can do a lap of the florio layout?, the parabolica section is completely different

  • @Vale0_0_7
    @Vale0_0_7 Před 2 lety

    My dad live in Vedano

  • @SchumiJr.
    @SchumiJr. Před 2 lety

    It's possible to race in the original 1922 circuit?

  • @DamodarDasBansal
    @DamodarDasBansal Před 2 lety

    No balance just vibes

  • @betelgeuse227
    @betelgeuse227 Před 2 lety +1

    Basically no rules monza in F1 2021

  • @wastefellow2569
    @wastefellow2569 Před 2 lety +1

    It looks like you were using too much downforce there. It’s Monza, so there’s no need for downforce

  • @claudiogonzalez9926
    @claudiogonzalez9926 Před 2 lety

    Mitsos, that final average speed of 343 needs correction :P nonetheless, i always watch your videos, it's high time i subscribe to your channel

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety +2

      Idk man seemed wrong to me too but any calculator I use gives me the same result. They claimed the circuit was 6.292 km long so idk

    • @claudiogonzalez9926
      @claudiogonzalez9926 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Mitsos1311 nah, its clearly much shorter than that :) at least in the simulation. Keep up the good work!!!

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety +1

      @@claudiogonzalez9926 definitely think that it’s too short, the back straight and main straight should be a lot longer. I guess the modder placed the Vedanta curve at the same place as the current parabolica when it should go way beyond it

  • @petrkotera5592
    @petrkotera5592 Před 2 lety

    What is this “game”? I’m just curious. Thanks.

  • @Admm744
    @Admm744 Před 2 lety

    Why’s the car so big

  • @adamplace1414
    @adamplace1414 Před 2 lety

    Same number of braking zones as Pocono, a 2.5 mi superspeedway.

  • @zdwheelman5782
    @zdwheelman5782 Před 2 lety

    ithink it would be cooler if the F1 cars matched the different eras that you show, instead of a 2022 F1 car

  • @reekelm9526
    @reekelm9526 Před 2 lety

    Is it a sound mod?

  • @rubensloot7238
    @rubensloot7238 Před 2 lety

    No wonder why this circuit is nicknamed The Temple of speed 😂

  • @kikert0213
    @kikert0213 Před 2 lety

    Try using an indycar to see if they can still go flat out.

  • @gentharamadhan1507
    @gentharamadhan1507 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello, how are you

  • @ricsix2.0
    @ricsix2.0 Před 2 lety

    Final corners are narrower than Moanco

  • @coolMan-nk8jv
    @coolMan-nk8jv Před 2 lety

    Lap Daytona with 2x horsepower

  • @francyszz3
    @francyszz3 Před 2 lety

    is there some mod of the rally course inside Monza circuit?

  • @ryota7483
    @ryota7483 Před 2 lety

    Where is this ww2 chicane?

  • @ADLSpotter17
    @ADLSpotter17 Před 2 lety

    It sounds like Ferrari 2018

  • @mortythealien2783
    @mortythealien2783 Před 2 lety

    this is pre-war maybe

  • @filipecoutinho5706
    @filipecoutinho5706 Před 2 lety +1

    You wouldn't be able to brake on that stone surface ..

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety +1

      Definitely not, straight into the fence

  • @federicotombolini_
    @federicotombolini_ Před 2 lety

    The track is largely different in the details and the sorroundings have nothing to do with the real Monza of the 40s-50s.

  • @FqtRacing
    @FqtRacing Před 2 lety +1

    Brakes ? You mean the coward pedal ? 💀

  • @brunozaleski7917
    @brunozaleski7917 Před 2 lety

    Where is the porpoising?

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety +6

      This is the future, Ferrari fixed the porpoising and 1-2’d every race since then

    • @brunozaleski7917
      @brunozaleski7917 Před 2 lety

      @@Mitsos1311 it's a sad future, it's funny see those cars moving up and down side to side like a rollercoaster, i hope, they will never find the solution.

  • @jacobbeckham1561
    @jacobbeckham1561 Před 2 lety

    Asseto crosa xD

  • @gaetanopapa6369
    @gaetanopapa6369 Před 2 lety

    Pls Tail Whit F2004

  • @kentozapater8972
    @kentozapater8972 Před 2 lety

    why is it so narrow

    • @cat_03tv
      @cat_03tv Před 2 lety +1

      A lot of tracks back then were this narrow, simply because u actually raced on public roads with no changes made to the road surface whatsoever. Most purpose-built racing tracks just went with how wide normal roads were, so that might well be where that came from. I mean, hey, back in the day the roads themselves were narrower, as the cars weren't as wide as they are now and so didn't need that much space. Honestly, if u would take a car from back in the day, the track would seem quite a bit wider simply because the car itself was narrower

    • @gufo_tave
      @gufo_tave Před 2 lety +1

      Because is a very bad reproduced track.
      Monza is not SO narrow (expecially on the main straight)

    • @kentozapater8972
      @kentozapater8972 Před 2 lety

      @@cat_03tv thanks for the explanation, so monza is made from public roads?

    • @cat_03tv
      @cat_03tv Před 2 lety

      @@kentozapater8972 not necessarily. Monza has always been used as a racing track, but the people who designed the track were most probably taking normal roads as inspiration. Also, many racing tracks back in the day originated on public roads and later became permanent racing courses. I'm not sure if Monza started out that way too, but it is likely that it was that way. Imola for example was that way too...
      And Gufo_Tave is probably also right in the way that this remake of how the original Monza was is not too good, but given the rather small amount of references u can use, that was rather probable...

  • @tsatsiscristos8545
    @tsatsiscristos8545 Před 2 lety

    Average speed 343 .... Goups

  • @ShimGaming2024
    @ShimGaming2024 Před 2 lety

    Find more speed car. Old F1 ore Indy.

  • @johnvandeventer8668
    @johnvandeventer8668 Před 2 lety

    So narrow

  • @user-wu2mw9xc9p
    @user-wu2mw9xc9p Před 2 lety

    Φιλε εισαι ελληνας;;;

    • @Mitsos1311
      @Mitsos1311  Před 2 lety

      Ναι αγορινα

    • @user-wu2mw9xc9p
      @user-wu2mw9xc9p Před 2 lety

      Πωω ρε φιλε μπραβο για το content που ανεβαζεις

  • @jopkloosterziel5942
    @jopkloosterziel5942 Před 2 lety

    With this layout the track is even more boring

  • @emilfalsarella4893
    @emilfalsarella4893 Před 2 lety

    Booooooooooooring

  • @jorritbouma2179
    @jorritbouma2179 Před 2 lety +1

    Firts

    • @cat_03tv
      @cat_03tv Před 2 lety

      More like *farts*
      Dude, nobody cares