You are Using These Units Wrong in DBZ Dokkan Battle
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- In today's video we will be looking at some units that players have been using wrong!
This could range from using an active skill too quickly to not floating off a unit when you should.
I hope that after this video you learn something new and it helps you have a better experience with that certain character! - Hry
You actually took the spot that dbzMoe took, You are genuinely goated
Yessirrrr
Morale of the video, kiddos: don’t get to trigger happy or you’ll “most likely” regret it
OR: use your active skills wisely
Fr lol
I have high morale silly
The only problem is that the Future Saga Team has fallen off.
That is fair
Well for Agl Vegito you can run 5th year Vegito since he’s a very solid option. As long as the fight doesn’t have AOE’s you should be fine. And Teq Zamasu I say run the AGL one since again he’s still a very solid option and you can infinitely stack in his fused form like the video said.
New Trunks save this team a little bit
@@alfinprathama8219 the new Trunks requires a good time travelers team so…. Meh?
@@darkslashgaming5758 most Future Saga unit has Time Traveler category, except Future Gohan and when our HP is low, he has 90% chance to dodge
Your OP information is slightly lacking. His active can also be used to cancel out of enemy switch locking. When you activate OP the units are still there underneath his own image, so you can swap the order accordingly to how you like and they'll be in that position once he reverts. He also resets rng so this could potentially be used to switch off units that are randomly sealed. Then there are tricks with units going ahead of him to collect type orbs and heal your team before activating and resetting, which can also be used to help charge standbys. Not to mention his tricks with bulma and 8th anni buu duo. But that's too complex and this post is long enough, you get the point.
Nah I get whatcha mean, the main highlight tho is the Super Attack seal and I forgot to mention the AOE
@@legendaryred24 Sorry, then I must be mistaken. I assumed the video was talking about people not taking advantage of what a unit offers and how to draw out the max potential of units.
@@renmojito6796 I mean it is for sure, but I mean most people who are learning about it maybe newer players. Just no need to overwhelm them with all that info
@@legendaryred24 W perspective if that's the approach you're going for. I'll try and keep it in mind for future posts and maybe i'll still write a comment for more in depth if advanced players want to peep more.
the music around vegito blue and merged zamasu is a bit chaotic, a solution to that can be to just record the animations ingame yourself but without the music, that way you can flexibly add whatever ost you want onto that part
True that is a way to do that. I could just mute the clips as well and then add OST as well
Regarding OP giant form, not only that it seals super, It's also seals aoe too most of the time. Also, giant form could also allow you to change the postion of your unit if they get locked. E.g: Phy Ulthan got locked in the 1st slot so that Str Beast (who's in the 2nd) can't go into 1st slot and OP is in the 3rd slot. So you use OP giant form. When in the giant form, you move the piccolo icon in the 2nd slot into 1st slot (you only have to this once) so that when the giant form ends, Beast is in the 1st slot, Ulthan in the 2nd, and OP in the 3rd slot. Now you have the rotation that you wanted so it doesn't matter if the boss locks your unit.
Yep!
Bro you read my mind with teq exchange buu, truth always switches to super buu the moment he can and it bothers me so much and he complains about him defensively
lol fr
I'm rarely watching his showcase unless there's the unit that I want to see on the hardest boss fight. But I still watch his other important Dokkan content like any new Dokkan Info
Watching him ranting about dodge and friend unit just because they didn't build dodge over and over for each his showcase video is not fun
Dude I thought you had like 100k subscribers but u only have 3.4k?! You are seriously underrated.
Appreciate it man😤🫡
@@legendaryred24 I could've sworn I saw him for months for having over 100k sub's (he may not do a lot but he's a good unit guider)
@@Lilyardrat Yessirr😤
nice analysis! This video does show an objective opinion and tactic on how to use units correctly, you remind me of another guy who also uses units from a mature and objective perspective as well, thanks for the help!
Of course 🫡😤
W info for the newer players but i wanna to avoid any confusion for the AGL VB one just in case people actually follow the method
Floating them won't work because of how it's worded. This method only works for characters like Gotenks and exchange Buu because how it's worded. Gotenks and exchange Buu is first worded "starting from the 3rd turn from the start of battle" meaning the third rotation in general. For example, if EZA AGL Zamasu starts off in the last slot, he will transform on his first rotation because it's the third turn. So when gotenks or exchange Buu transforms, it's counting their turn they first transform as one of the 4 turns you need to get the active so you can float them off
VB condition is worded "starting from the 5th turn from the character's entry turn" which means from the third rotation they appeared in. 23rd WT Goku also has the same wording with is standby being "starting from the 6th turn from the character's entry turn" meaning the characters 4th appearance, the earliest you can get goku to activate his standby is turn 7 first slot, 4th slot, or 2nd rotation, is turn 8. VB falls under this category because of the wording. You can get his transformation on his 3rd rotation he appeared, so turn 5 in first slot without being floated off, turn 6 if being floated off on the first slot, or turn 9 if he was floated off the entire fight. Without HP conditions, it would take him to turn 9 at the earliest to transform
TL;DR It works with Gotenks because of how his is worded being the start of the battle based on the number counting the turns while VB is worded differently making it depend on how many rotation he has been in
Calling super buu a glass canon is wild
Not really lol
@@legendaryred24glass cannons cannot survive shit. for them Stop throwing that word around.
@@Aziz.500 he can’t take even normals against some of the hardest bosses in the game if doesn’t super twice. He’s a glass cannon especially in 9th anni content
Im not going to say anything about this whole dbzMoe thing between you two but I will say thank you for the videos.
Yeah no need for it for sure. But appreciate it!
Very informative video, thanks legendary red🙏
Yessirr😤🫡
I’ve been playing this game from the beginning and I didn’t even know about some of these 😂 (mostly because I can’t read Japanese and don’t wanna translate) good video man it’s super informative and i definitely learned a lot
Appreciate it 😤🫡
This seems like a great guide for new players who aren't acquitted with strategy yet, but otherwise this is common sense to long-time players 😭 if anyone above rank 400 took something away from this, I pray for your future success
lol fr, also appreciate it😤🫡
Ty for the tips dude, I was misusing Majin Buu TEC 😅 Now I won't make that mistake again
Yessirrr🫡, tho feel free to transform him in events like Dokkan Events or lose directly Red Zones just so he can melt through them
I'm definitely guilty of doing this especially with units with transforming active skills or active skills that have a damage animation, this video is definitely helpful on when to use the transforming active skills or the damage active skills
Appreciate it🫡
These videos are absolute Ws
Yessir😤🫡
I love how since dbzMoe stopped commentary, you decided to continue it. Nice work 💯
Also, I'm PRAYING I can pull the 9th anniversary units on global because those summon rates look harsh lol
@@AzrielKatana good luck on those summons 🫡
3:29 Also if their are orbs to heal do those two first and then transform
And rearrange the orbs to have green coming out
To add more health
People misuseing toppo by not going full dodge on him is just stupid
Fr
Ayy nice vid man keep it up! I think ur basically suppose to use the active skills of units as a finisher or if ur really in a do or die situation
Can confirm
For instance: every time I use orange piccolo in rz fights,
I ALWAYS save his giant form mechanic for the final boss
Heck, I just vested rz dr wheelo today by doing just that
His seal mechanic also allowed me to be safe with the 5. Anni lr blue fusions to finish the fight
@@nachozacho1407 5th anniversary fusions can cook. They just don't take hits very well. My vegito is 69% while gogeta is 55%
@@GOGITODAGOAT absolutely,
both of mine where at 55%, yet they still tore dr wheelo to shreds
And thankfully there is a few ways to work around their lackluster def in the late game
Like eza str lr super veguto or phy kamicollo with their scouters
or with the upcoming 9. Anni, the new target mechanic for phy lr blue gogeta
@@nachozacho1407Dr wheelo in no way is a hard fight, so weird flex
Yep!
The only time I get "trigger happy" is when I first test them out, after that I just keep them in their pre transformed state until its needed
Yeah and that’s fair, just for more of strategy tho you probably wanna be a little conservative with it
Whenever I do the buu spirit bomb I like to charge it up a bit then use orange piccolo to reset the rotation and charge it up even more
Good strategy 👀
dbzMoe could never 😂
Another thing about OP is that you can move your units around in different slots and it’ll match when you go back. Useful against locking bosses
For sure!
I’m Ngl, Pure Evil Buu has saved my runs almost as much as TEQ Piccolo. Dude is a defensive AND evasive beast
Fr
Never lost w using super buu, if you lose w super buu then its literally a skill issue lmao
It’s a skill issue transforming into Super Buu lol. Imagine getting rid of 50% dodge for 600k damage
@@legendaryred24 then why havent i lost then🤣🤣🤣
@@megaquazadarkside7598 depends what do you play Global of JP?
@@legendaryred24 both Global and Jp 😆
@@megaquazadarkside7598 It ranges from a plethora of things to say why you’ve won with Super Buu. And let’s set the record straight Super Buu is not a bad unit, but you are deliberately taking a downgrade. The Buu team is strong enough to keep Buu alive even as Super Buu but let’s not act like it is optimal. Gogeta Blue wipes the floor with TEQ Super Buu while Evil Buu can just simply dodge. Plus Super Buu has Candy Beam active to rely on as well, there are too many things that can create a reason for him to survive. But the statement of you never lost with Super Buu so he’s good is subjective, I’ve never lost with Evil Buu so where does that put us? Nowhere
No way you called super buu a glass cannon...
He is… if you don’t double super against some of the toughest bosses in the game and he gets supered… GG
@@legendaryred24 The fact he can tank those supers with right circumstances already disproves your point. By that logic we can call 95% of the game glass cannons. It's not that i disagree with not transforming evil buu, your wording was just off.
@@szade8966 The right circumstances include being 100% and double supering to take 400k… that’s a glass cannon. He dies to Kid Buu. In terms of the meta we are in rn he is a glass cannon
Super buu the glass canon, that can survive even gogeta if he has defensive equips. After which you heal back all damage cause its a majin buu team.
The majin buu team lacks enough damage so its better to transform evil buu to super buu rather than drag the fight and introduce more chances to die
Yeah no lol. Super Buu has to double super to survive which is relying on HIPO, and assuming your Super Buu is rainbowed. Otherwise he’s cooked against Gogeta Blue and Kid Buu. You don’t introduce more chances to die bc you just said even the weakest link can survive supposedly so no one is dying if that’s the case lol. People only like Super Buu bc the Buu team carries him hard
The Teq Vegeta one really helped me I never knew Vegeta was a stacking unit
Sure is
@@legendaryred24 This helped me so much Thanks
@@AnimeEditor512 yessirrr🫡
I didn’t know that Toppo kept his 11% dr from intro once he’s transformed, he is truly OP!!!(Toppo the most underrated guy in the game)
Fr
Good advice
Appreciate it
Dude if you ever need help with footage or something I would love to help out. I’d probably just screen record but 100% I’m down or like any help love these kinds of videos dawg
Hey appreciate it man! Yeah I don’t mind help at all especially with footage. Do you have a discord? Maybe we could chat more about it over there
@@legendaryred24 yea my discord Barclock, but without the L after the c, I have to censor it cause CZcams won’t let me put it
@@legendaryred24 or uh let me see your discord
@@Snoopist works either way
@@Snoopist I haven’t added people on discord in a hot minute how in the world do you do it lol
I agree with almost everything but the first take, the main issue with the majin power team is damage and super buu hits like a truck, and with 70% DR he's FAR from a glass cannon (which would be LR Super Buu for example)
He definitely is a glass cannon. He cannot take hits well at all once he has reached Super Buu and he is forced to eat attacks. Really any form of Buu can’t take a hit late into a fight especially 9th anni, so the dodge is crucial. You don’t need the damage until the end
@@legendaryred24 from what I've seen he can hold his own but transforming him isn't always the key it depends on the lvl yeah
Also for the orange piccolo part, an even more obscure mechanic is that since he resets the turn by turning giant, if you have used a stand by that charges up with ki spheres, you can just take ki spheres with your first 2 characters on rotation, then use OP's active skill, and you will basically have more charges for your standby for free 👍
@@fugf1623 that’s after a double super which is all depending on HIPO luck. There is no need to chance it when Evil Buu is a better unit defensively. Otherwise Super Buu is at 400k DEF at 70% DR which is nowhere near enough. Even at 700k defense with 70% DR he is still taking 400k from Gogeta Blue. Just ain’t worth it
Vegito is still great. He can be slapped on to many teams. He alone can be very amazing without having a partner. They would need to buff Future team a bit if we want Vegito to deal amazing damage.
I love the trick on the zamasu and blues except it doesn’t seem to work It the 7th turn and I have a future ally and team but they just don’t pop
Yeah I forgot to note it is a double float not a single float. You have to float them on first appearance and again after
@@legendaryred24 oh! Now that makes sense
So your saying for orange piccolo, after he’s done with his giant form, it’s a sealed super attack turn?
Only if the boss supers Orange Piccolo
@@legendaryred24 alright bet, thanks!
DBZMoe’s successor
Yessirrr😤🫡
OPs transformation doesnt just work on supers btw, AOEs and double supers and etc too
Yep!
@@legendaryred24 still the best active in the game fr
@@brassbeast8582 fr
about orange piccolo dont forget that if you activate it too early you will be wasting entry animation turns and other passives based on turn from entry
@@not_manuele6046 wdym?
@@legendaryred24 for example, ultimate gohan phy has an entry animation, that gives him for a set number of rounds a passive, if you use the 2-3 turns of orange piccolo too soon in a long even gohan is gonna get killed by a leaf because you wasted 2 to 3 turns of his passive.
its just a thing to know when making the team
@@not_manuele6046 oh I see🤔, is that really how that works? The turn number doesn’t move so I really don’t think this is the case. Otherwise you could speed up transformations
@@legendaryred24 lemme check a thing
@@not_manuele6046 ight
Also with vegito blue thing it will be the 6th turn even if you float off on their 2nd turn and not 7th so that dosent do anything
Yeah I chatted without someone about that earlier. You would have to double float
@legendaryred24 that's bad cause thier guard only lasts 3 turns so after 1st float they won't have guard
@@reddragon6829 it lasts for 4 chief
Zamasu is the loner 😢
I dont even transform into super buu at all unless its a type advantage boss.. cause that 70% dr aint cutting shit for my 55% teq buu type disadvantages
Fr
Thing is with teq majin buu that you actually want super buu as soon as possible. Higher damage reduction, better stats and link partner to Lr Phy buuhan. Plus its in the majin power team so they heal like crazy.🍬
They have the same reduction and TEQ Super Buu has no dodge while Evil Buu has 50%. Damage won’t keep you alive. Only situation where you would want to go Super Buu asap is you weren’t running a Majin Power team
Super buus damage will kill the boss with that crit in his kit. Also he not at all a glass cannon. He can't survive a few supers and even that i am not sure about@@legendaryred24
Da goat
Appreciate it 🫡😤
Chats filled with glazers.. cool video either way tho
Appreciate it🫡
I transform evil buu purely for the teq super buu + agl super buu rotation
I mean that is fair, but you are making him weaker
@@legendaryred24 i’m sure he’ll fail me in 9th anni content, but he hasn’t sold yet!
Eh, transforming TEQ Majin Buu all the way up to Super Buu isn't exactly a bad move.
At the earliest, you get access to Super Buu at turn 7, at which point the fight is soon to be finished since they usually range from 7 to 12 turns, and Super Buu survives any super attack besides the one Gogeta super at 3M6.
The real bad move is using him to tank first slot. 70% DR doesn't mean shit if you're sitting on 300k defense nowadays, but you don't need to anyway since his team has units to cover that position.
I mean well yes that’s true, but again the two bosses he struggles with are Kid Buu and Gogeta Blue (and we are also assuming Super Buu is rainbowed) who are the hardest bosses in the game. I’m not saying to never transform into him, but why take a downgrade for more damage when there is no need for it unless you are tryna close out the final boss. Super Buu has too many chances to let you down compared to Evil Buu
Should also included Phy Lord Frieza
Which one?
As for agl lr vb i actually either try to put them in slot 3 or mantain them in slot 1 and bet on their dodge waiting for a future saga ally to arrive on the same turn as theirs
It's also good that if they get hit and survive but continue dodging afterwards (yes it has happened to me a few times) they will be able to use their active next time i see them because the team will have taken enough damage for them to go into Vegetto Blue
Exactly
Floating VB or zamasu only on their second turn makes them come back on their sixth turn. You have to float them twice from the start to have them come back on their seventh turn.
Not how it works. This same technique works with Gotenks and Exchange Buu. Try it out
@@legendaryred24 Not true. Vegito/Zamasu's transformation condition is **7th turn from the start of turn**. Floating them on their 3rd turn makes them come back on the 6th, as the OP said. Whereas for Exchange Buu and Gotenks they can transform starting from the 4th turn from transformation, which would be their second turn after being floated off.
You try it. Go into an event where their HP can't get below 70% to activate their alternate condition.
@@marshoul2717 so explain how that’s different? Gotenks turns SSJ turn 3 and needs to wait till turn 7 to transform (2 rotations), and they are able to transform turn 6 being floated off. VB and Zamasu transform Turn 5 but can also turn 7 (same situation)
@@legendaryred24 Gotenks turns SS turn 3 and needs TURN 6 to transform, assuming he starts turn 1. The transformation is 4 turns from the SS transformation; turn 3 is the first turn, turn 4 is the second, etc, to turn 6, the 4th turn.
Vegito and Zamasu need turn 7 of THEIR start of turn, so they need to spend at least 3 full rotations in base before they can transform. There are no shortcuts with them.
@@marshoul2717 that’s not how that works. Gotenks has two turns in SSJ if he stays on rotation, but it is avoided if he’s floated. SSJ is turn 1, and then the next turn is Turn 3, so the same thing for VB and Zamasu. Turn 3 VB and Zamasu transform no HP condition turn 7, the float avoids it
I'll never forgive what Devs did to VB. Vegetto Blue is great but G/V are ass,their DR is ass too,The game tries to force you to keep them in rotation in order to stack their attack and defense. But this stacking is only viable if they're on second or third slot, the bad thing? That the best use of his passive is based on taking them first slot,not giving them the chance to Super more than Once. Not to mention that their DEF stacking is on Ultra and ATK is on super. imo it should be vice versa. That way you could keep them in rotation and make VB a beast
Yeah it does suck you have to play around with them to make them work the way they should’ve. Idk why we could have gotten a standalone Blue Vegito
7:25 facinf
The vegito and zamasu trick for the active is not that easy to use whit vegito, because he is so bad defencivly out of slot 1 most of the times
True that is fair but most bosses especially in long form meta aren’t too hard turn 3
@@legendaryred24 they still hit over 1kk whit the super and they take damage from normal most of the times, also Future is not very good right now
@@pietroprovenzano1836 future isn’t you are right but most supers hit for by turn 3 is like 800k which both of them can take fine after supering
Hey guys do you know how to piccolo?
Perhaps
Youre using these umits wrong
lol ight buddy
Im so lost and ur twitter Dosnt allow me to DM u
I haven’t used my twitter in a hot minute and I don’t allow just random people to DM (Not saying you are a random I’m just Iwould have to follow you first). Why what’s up?
Super Buu is a glass canon, yeah no. There is literally only two bosses in the game that he can die to which is str Gogeta and int Kid Buu. Str Gogeta is just rng dependant dodge the super or die unless your beast or have a revive however with Kid Buu by the time you get him out Kid Buu is almost dead and dropping a 20 mil guaranteed crit on him pretty much seals it. Guess teq eza Gohan is a glass canon because Kid Buu spins him around like he's making pizza. Put some respect on Super Buu's name.
So the two toughest bosses in the game are his issue yeah that’s an issue lol. Guess who can avoid Gogeta? Evil Buu. Guess who can tank STR Gogeta Blue? TEQ Ultimate Gohan. Super Buu is a direct downgrade to Evil Buu no need to justify it
What DR means?
“Damage reduction”
Learn it well, it’s a godsend for units to have high % of it
Damage reduction
Ohhhh orange piccolo is a super attack stealer whaaaaa!!! I did not know that. Now when you within that turn did ya mean while he's in his gaint transformation or after or do it work both ways? When ya go gaint mode time stops for 3 turns!!! 😎
Hrs definitely number 1 it's not hard to get his active skill to come to play at all
Yes, when he is in Giant form at any time when he is supered it takes away the super
Yeah, it also takes away AOEs
@@alyaanmaqsood Yep!
DBZMOE MORE LIKE DBZ MID
No offense but you should start watching your videos before you upload because there are alot of mistakes in them
Mostly audio issues I could see which is fair. Considering to just mute the clips and then play OST over it
@@legendaryred24 I cant speak for him but I think he may be talking about typos. I thought of like 4 off the top of my head.
@@renmojito6796 Maybe
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