Black Mirror: Bandersnatch Review
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- čas přidán 27. 12. 2018
- This is a review and analysis of the new interactive episode of the Netflix show Black Mirror titled Bandersnatch. Charlie Brooker has created a stand-alone film to be part of the show. It looks at the viewer controlling the fate of the main character Stefan.
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You missed my favorite ending! It was where a new person in 2018 trying to recreate the game, but she gets the same fate as Stephan were you get to choose if she throws tea at the computer or destroys it.
are you for real?
I got that too!!
It was Colin's daughter Pearl
YEAH THAT WAS THE ONE I GOT
I got that one too!
I got the ending where stephan was just an actor listening to scripts
what?? i never got that
@@Even151 You choose to come to the therapist, and then choose Yeah, and then Jumping out of the window. Stefan will be stopped by one of the crew of the movie set.
I think this version you mention is a dead end. I think we should distinguish between endings and dead ends. One ending that I haven't heard so far, is when the game doesn't get released at all due to Stephan being arrested. This may be the 5th ending that BrainPilot haven't discovered yet.
I got the one he dies
HOW?
Every ending I got seemed to be even darker and more twisted than the former one
@@keyserjosaid321 Yeah poor Stefan. No escaping from his doomed situation. Black Mirror really excels at giving the viewer a hard time.
@@jesst.3930 Yeah what a fucking waste of time. Thought the whe point narrative choices were to see how they impact the end. Every ending is just a 'ruin stefans life' how boring.
Best review I've seen about Bandersnatch. Finally someone who actually explains the feeling of it and doesn't just list the endings they got.
Thank you!
I agree, I actually understood some of the scenarios that I haven't gotten around too yet.
Do you [ruin Stefan's life] or [ruin Stefan's life] ?
Pound it brother
Not a large enough resource base
Or just make him a movie star named Mike. That was the only nice ending.
*Throw tea over computer*
Lol
TheKuKuBananaz ME
It's almost like we're the hackers from Shut up and dance lol
Oh yeh.
Nope.
LUIGIII yes
True
I really like that idea, I think that would of been more fun then bandersnatch
Black mirror has an air of novelty that seemingly will never expire.
Agree with you!
I almost agreed with you but Nah it’s already expired because Charlie brooker wants everything to connect. The novelty for me personally is now ruined. A simple twitter story the first episode is some how supposed to turn into being able to share conscious on the cloud. It’s ruined it for me I’d personally love the entire thing to be separate. I like little hints like the forks from white bear and now into bandersnatch but Charlie brooker forcing the inevitability of the coming together moment will forever leave a bad taste in my mouth.
ive seen some negative reviews about bandersnatch but personally feel that its an innovative and impressive episode.
Dharma 815 it’s alright. But many of the endings had no build up
If you didn't enjoy this episode you're a tool and you need to be watching Brady Bunch reruns...
Metoo
It's innovative sure, but for me it wasnt impressive, it was just a weak unsubtle meta experience
@@luigiwiiUU really ? I felt that the message of self control was implemented well and the interactive aspect of the episode added intensity and weight to an already solid story.
I felt like the ending where he got on the train with his mother and died both in the past and in present day was related to the idea of the your soul making the decisions as mentioned by Colin in his home. The idea that Stefan's soul goes back in past and dies with his mother on the train like he always felt he should have, leaving his body in present time empty (dead) in the counselling session. Which in my opinion influences the fact that counselling never helped him, it was his dads decision and it wasn't working which ultimately lead to his death during one of his sessions because the only way he felt he could make up for his mothers death, was to actually go back and die with her.
It is my favorite ending so far
Oz ferrari wow I never thought of it that way!!! I got this ending and was very shocked and depicts our idea of different univereses
This was my favorite ending.
I got the perfect ending on my first try.
The one when the person from the future recreate banersnatch. Then you control the future lady.
Wtfi haven't heard of that one
Imagination Hammer Yea I figured that was the main ending. If the film was straightforward, that would have been the one to end on.
@@dhughesy2023 can you explain that ending?
Main ending is the one where you find the bear and go on the train with the mom that’s where the credits actually roll
The " Future Lady" is Colin's daughter!🤯
"We are the technology that rules and ruins the live of Stefan"...well said
Thank you!
I spent all of this morning experimenting and finding all the possible outcomes. Blew my mind
I liked how there were tiny little changes. When I went back because I chose to accept the job and not refuse, Colin said that he had read the book and asked if he already met Stefan. It foreshadows Colin knowing about everything that’s happening and I feel like I having seen anyone else talking about it.
Although this form of media isn't really a new thing, bandersnatch did it better than everyone who tried before. They introduced this concept to the mainstream media and it only shows the potential it has as a subgenre of movies. I hope more and more studios will expand on this idea and we will get to see more of it in the future.
(Also if telltale games realised what they could have been doing with their game concept sooner, they might be still around)
Whaat? Man, I didnt know Telltale filed for bankrutcy. Wow, that sucks
@@kevinvtoons yeah it really does. It was a big thing and surprise a few months ago or so. Came out of now nowhere and for me its especially sad for the wolf among us 2. wouldve loved to see that game
@@Cloud-zx2mu Seriously i dont know how i didnt hear about it until now. That was very unexpected. I guess all good things cant last forever :/.
@@kevinvtoons In some alternative storylines they do but it would be resource driven
there was an ending where a woman in this age tries to recreate the game and then she breaks her computer
no, she pours tea over her keyboard
@@guitarherops31 you can pick which one
zxx either way she breaks her computer
I believe she’s Colin’s daughter..
@@taethetical she is
Most importantly, you picked frosted flakes, that was the right move ;)
um no sugarpuffs foreva
*FROSTED FLAKES*
Ummm, they were called Frosties in the movie 😂
Inthe UK theyre called Frosties
there’s the ending with pearl, like she’s writing the actual episode. that’s the one you’re missing
I think he's missing the one where it's revealed to be a movie set, and the actor playing Stefan confuses himself with the character he's playing.
Anyone get the ending where colins daughter is creating bandersnatch for netflix
TripleCxd - Retired that was one of the endings I got
yup that was my first ending
No I need that ending omg
Both options loop but when u get back to her u get the real ending. Then the end credits had a secret ending
I’ve seen all the scenes but 3
I agree that Netflix is the technology in the episode but we definitely are not in control. The paths you can chose are varied but limiting and its like what Stephan himself says in the movie; he took out parts of his game to streamline it and give the player illusion of control. There could have been far more endings and paths but they chose not to, some of the choices feel like they push you down a specific path and in the end; always lead you to the same place, the true ending where the game is rebooted by Netflix, you can fight back but this is the only path that automatically rolls the end credits rather than you manually starting them at a "Go back" screen. You, as the viewer, are being controlled by none other than Netflix.
As always: Black Mirror is deep, exploring the human mind and psychology behind it all.
I came to the same conclusion as you but actually think that because of this this stupid was anything but deep
yeah I agree I picked up stephans comment on the illusion of choice like the episode was, you couldn't make stephan get through it clean like I initially tried.
@@-ice-125-3 you picked? what do you mean you picked? I watched it on some alternate free site not on Netflix so I dont get it.
@@loiclabonne5708 The episode is interactive you get to choose (or at least have the illusion of choice) what the character does throughout the episode
He also fights tugging his ear. This shows we are definitely not the ones in control.
anyone else watch it and was so confused but also engrossed in the story and the idea of the whole thing, the choices actually felt real and this is honestly revolutionary in so many ways.
I wouldn't say revolutionize as many philosopher believed in this philosophy that our choices alone is not controlled by our action.
i'm curious about the existance of diferent codes for the telephone besides the one that calls his therapeut. This is the ending where he finds out about P.A.C.S., kills and bury his dad in the garden. Then, if you call the dr you end up talking to the receptionist and she call the cops on you. If you dial the wrong number the phone disconects and you get caught because the dog's neighboor ends up finding the body
the dog's neighbor? hahaha
Did you see the end credit tho...if you go down this storyline theres a whole other scene after you see all the credits for the movie I don't want to spoil it so maybe go do it again it left me more confused
abacatschi yeah I’m wondering if there’s more than one code.
I got it right the first time and later found out about a black mirror website you can play some games if you put the code in the url.
What I’m really curious about though is if there’s more than one code
@@vx2876 /r/blackmirror had a dig in to the code and it seems that there's no other codes.
i think the episode should be infinite to really signify that the technology controls you, and people would just keep playing and thinking they're in control making choices but they are the ones basically trapped playing looking for an ending. however fully ending it is understandable.
ekorobo blew my mind mate
I also hope they come up with additional ending once in a while. Hahaha. Nice exploring.
This episode of Black Mirror was a very bold and innovative move. I really liked it.
i got an ending where stefan listens to a cassette with bandersnatch demo but its only a weird noise
@@TheRodentMastermind no, it's not. It's an Easter egg that can lead to a website where a game is irl stupid
@@TheRodentMastermind Stoopid
SPOILERS, obviously lol
(tl;dr I found 6 endings, getting the last one after seeing all the others shows an extra scene)
So, all of the more "concrete" and "definitive" endings I've gotten so far are:
1- Stefan goes to jail after killing his dad. This itself has a few variations depending on how you handle dad's body. Bandersnatch will either get 2.5 stars or 5 stars if Stefan managed to complete the game in time after killing dad or someone, Colin or Mr. Thakur, will show up at Stefan's house. Also, Tuckersoft will either go into administration or be liquidated.
2- Instead of going to see Dr. Haynes with his dad, Stefan will follow Colin and ask for help. He goes to Colin's home and meets his girfriend, Kitty, and baby daughter, Pearl. They both take LSD no matter what you choose and discuss the idea of time, parallel dimensions and PACS, Program and Control system. I feel it's important to take both options of who jumps here because one leads to a direct ending where Bandersnatch is abruptly finished and isn't given a rating, and another choice leads further down the rabbit hole but with Colin missing.
3- One ending where Stefan is aware he is in a Netflix program and has a fight with Dr. Haynes and his dad, leading to him being dragged out of the clinic aware of his "friend from the future", i.e. us as the watchers/players.
4- Another ending where Stefan is still aware of being in a Netflix show and tries to leap out the window as Dr. Haynes is about to fight him, but the 4th wall breaks and we see the filming crew try to snap Stefan/Mike out of it.
5- Leading from one variation of the the first ending I listed, Stefan managed to complete Bandersnatch after killing his dad and it gets 5 stars and high accolades, but we're shown a modern day news report about the discovery of Stefan murdering his father, Bandersnatch being pulled off shelved and him going to jail. We see an adult Pearl following her father's footsteps in game design recreating Bandersnatch as the Netflix show we're experiencing, but also that she is falling victim to it's same power it had over Stefan. Credits roll throughout this ending but it goes back to the decision point screen instead of Netflix popping out to load the next episode of Black Mirror, which was for me, ironically, Metalhead lol
6- After experiencing all of the other endings, Stefan steps through the mirror as young Stefan and becomes aware of where his dad kept his Rabbit. He unlocks the safe using TOY and places the Rabbit back under his bed. He finds it before his mother leaves and goes with her on the train, both of them dying as it derails, causing adult Stefan to die in Dr. Hayne's office.
The first time I got ending 6 after my first "playthrough" the credits started playing and Netflix popped out to play the next video. BUT, after my third run to try to experience as many other endings as I could see, there's a scene after doing ending 6 last where Stefan is back on the bus going to Tuckersoft but instead listens to the Bandersnatch demo tape rather than music. The whole scene of him on the bus plays but with old internet dial up beeping playing instead.
Ranmaru Richu I got all endings within 2 runs, I got confused asf when I finished it first and then he is listening to a internet dial up. I never got the option to kill Collin with the vase like item, only got the suicide plot. Also I never got the tv screen with the person with the balloon with sharks in the water beneath him? Might have 2 give it another run
I also got the ending where he finds out the government is monitoring him all the time with the PAC policy
TheGameFreak did you get the option to input the numbers into the telephone???
@@bbgjiji8592 yeah! I typed in the numbers that he kept mumbling about
Yes but I got the number wrong omg 😭 I'm doing it again tomorrow 👍🏻🤞🏻
@@MegKBaker Don't bother, youll get basically the same ending without any further reveals.
I screwed up inputting the code twice due to my remote, so I endes up fast forwarding through the movie the same night to finally get it right and when I found out it does nothing I was so mad.
I got an ending where they were all just actors, but stefan was very confused
The whole acid trip sequence was so well done I thought. Not just the authentic looking visuals, but the music and Colin's monologue within the context of what we already knew about this world up to that point made it particularly pertinent.
You failed to mention that after accepting the job offer and getting a 0 out of 5 stars review, he tells his dad that he'll just "try again". We get flashbacks of what we just saw from the beginning of the movie(which Collin refers to as invitations to the past to make another decision). Everything is the same up until he meets Collin at Tuckersoft and Collin asks "We've met before?" Stephan says no, but is able to identify that Collin's game Nosedyve(Which is an easter egg of a Black Mirror Episode Nosedive) has a buffer error due to the sprites eyeballs overloading the video memory. Collin is surprised and asks how he knew that. Stephan says "I just did." THIS is huge because we as the viewer realize that not only did we as the viewer go back in time, so did Stephan. Now we must differentiate what we saw as fact or just flashback from another universe. For example, Stephan remembers that Collin jumped out of the window when Kitty(Collin's wife) asks him if he's seen him. The weird thing is Kitty was there but has no memory of ever meeting Stephan. Deep shit.
The sound design is amazing in this episode.
100% agree with that!
Absolutely loved this! Spent a while getting all the endings and seeing all the little variations in the details.
the white bear symbol is just there because he is a murderer and is being punished for it everyday and by replaying it again and again, we are just torturing him again and again as a form of entertainment for us so yall yes
Did anyone saw "the end" when he was a child and with his mom on the train and they both die there?
Yep but it felt abit like Donnie darko to me.
No, my friend and I were watching it together and she told me that if he went, that they would both die, so I chose not to go
Hands down best review, you’ve earned a sub. Keep up the good work
Thank you! God you enjoyed it!
Previously after burying Stefan's dad, Thakur rang the phone asking if the game would be finished tonight and you either answered yes (Colin comes round) or no (Thakur comes round) and either way you kill them and end up in prison. But when trying again, there was no option and Kitty came round saying Colin had gone missing, which was later said as well on the TV.
I got the Collin is missing one before the other two
Bandersnatch was absolutely incredible. Genuinely loved it, so well performed, written, delivered, etc. Great Review also bud, Definitely a "5 Stars Out of 5" ;)
I rewatched it so many times that I got all the endings. It’s so cool.
Definitely a new experience!
*”I’m defrosting mince!”*
It was a cool demo but I still like the Christmas movie a lot better than it
Facts
White Christmas is their best episode to date.
Dad is a Government Agent is the one he didn't get. As well as breaking the 4th wall when he "jumps out the window"
Great review!
Loved it. Watched it with a friend and we had 3 endings i think. Missing the zero score one and the one where the boss dies. So there still are some interations of ruining stefans life ;)
I got the ending where my phone was not compatible to play Bandersnatch. #BadEnding :''')
I’ve heard a rumor there’s an ending where Kitty (Colin’s wife) is killed by Stephan but I haven’t gotten to that one. I feel like I’ve gotten every other ending.
I got that one the second time i watched it. You get it if you tell Tucker the game will be finished when he asks near the end of the episode.
Grace I did that. Kitty came to the house and asked where Colin is. You have the option to tell her he jumped or say you don’t know where he is. I tried both. She didn’t die either time.
Why isn’t this kind of interactive film a more common thing? I think it’s great. It gets you thinking and makes it even more interesting.
5:28 there is a option. Were you can choose "fight her" or "jump out of window" if you jump out Stefan is in a movie set and is mentioned by his real name but he belives its Stefan not his actual self
I got the ending where you explain what Netflix is and Stefan fights his therapist and later dies in therapy after rewinding time.
Metoo
And what about the blue and red everywhere in the story? Anyone have suggestions on what that signifys?
Probably just the 80's vaporwave aesthetic
This was a great review:) I think that interactive movies like this are the future! 😊 it's amazing
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
I noticed that you also enjoy Lemmino. Not a lot of people know about his music, but it's nice to see you also enjoy his works
That's right! Good spot!
Great review! Like always!
Thank you!
There's a small subtheme about free will (or the illusion thereof) which I found to be super interesting! There are some decisions that you can make while watching - which are important - that have the same outcome no matter which you choose. For example when you either accept or deny the LSD, either way Stefan takes it and proceeds to the suicide scene. I found it interesting that Brooker introduces the illusion of free will to the viewer, but you can only find out after multiple viewings.
I cant find any other endings but great review
Thank you!
So addicting. I like it
The ending I got is where you tell him that netflix is controlling him, but at the therapist's office when the fight is about to begin but he tries to jump out of a window but he can't because he's on a film set.
I watched the pirate 5 hour download. Like torture, quite painful as you don’t really know choices, and the choices are after they are shown in the ripped version ! Still enjoyed the heck out of this home Computers era. I was there as a kid and it was brilliant.
I like the ending where he realize it was Netflix and then realized he was the actor
BrainPilot is seriously one underrated channel.
This movie was fucking awesome! So is your channel homie! Good work
Really great video and I could not agree more.
Someone tell me how to get to the ending where he kills his boss. That's the only one I couldn't get to
Did anyone have to “call the therapist” and enter a code? I put mine in and the. It ended.
Same, but I was talking to my brother because we saw it separately and I didn't dial the correct number and he did. Turns out it was the same ending just with a slight difference in scenes.
@@antoniogarciarodriguez2611 lame
Got it but failed
With every person I've seen playing they always first pick [Accept] and try again and then do [refuse] is tha with everybody?
I'll be back to watch your review I cant get spoiled
I don't blame you! Look forward to hearing what you think!
The ending where Stefan descends into paranoid schizophrenia (entering PAC into the safe) was amazing in the way the conspiracy all made sense and seemed real to him, formed a consistent set of facts that with a little rewriting of his memories turned his dad and doctor into monsters. Also if you chose Netflix, then to jump out the window, and wonder what's happened to his actor.. is that really Stefan or is Bandersnatch just a memetic-hazard in general :D
Watching the above vid I wonder how much it's creators were influenced either in which vid or and by whom.
If themselves then what should the viewers do
Suggestion...not that much in large part due to the temporal problem
the flashbacks "timetravel" concept made me feel so anxious @.@
This was especially weird for me as I remember back in the early 1980's staying with a friend who was designing a game for the Sinclair Spectrum (a game based on the Chinese I Ching divination book) and we took lots of acid and listened specifically to prog albums including Tangerine Dream's Phaedra and Tomita's Bermuda Triangle. This whole thing was like a weird fictionalised flashback for me.
I thought i have gotten all the endings but turn out there is a couple path ways in which kitty shows up at your house or tucker (i got colin and didn't kill him) and there is an ending i think in which stefan ends on a bus (i guess the one at the beggining) hearing an awful sound??
anyone notice that his room is the same room in the episode "shut up and dance"?
new subscriber. Thanks for a thorough review of bandersnatch. I just watch it once. i only got 2.5 stars out of 5
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the review!
On one of the endings, you have to dial a number, I miss typed and couldn't go back. IT SUCKS! Now everytime I go back, the password is pax instead of pac. Ugh
I loved all the Easter eggs in Bandersnatch! The whole choice thing was really cool and it reminded me of Return to House on Haunted Hill it's pretty cool
One ending that I haven't heard so far, is when the game doesn't get released at all, due to Stephan being arrested. This may be the 5th ending that BrainPilot haven't discovered yet.
This is my favourite black mirror story so far, I love how even though we get to make choices, the narrative fucks with us and shows us how little control even we have. White Christmas had a masterful plot twist, San junipero had an excellent juxtaposition on the value of life vs superficial immortality, but I don't think there's a single episode that matches the depth in this episode, and the foreshadowing of the dog digging up the dead dad, at the start was brilliant. This episode really reminds me of Donnie Darko.
The story evolves even after each ending, the option to go back and change events continues and further develops new options. The idea of choice being but a idea the user believes in but doesn’t actually have meaning in the long run, to achieve, in my opinion, the final ending where he gets on the train, as your prompted to do, has no more options left and rolls the credits.
I chose to not go with the mom.. which broke my heart.. and the lesson I got was you can't change major events of the past and that he was blaming his dad wrongly
I think that the idea of the “episode” was that you (as much as the character) wasn’t in control. Did anyone wonder the reason of the timer that appears when you got to “make” a choice? When it first appeared, I was like “what will happens if I let it go down without doing anything”? And the answer was that it made a choice by itself. So I thought that, maybe, my intervention was just an illusion to keep me think that I was in control. So I decide to make no decision at all. The results was: (i) I saw playing every possible outcome, but in the end the plot had just one “satisfactory” (mostly for the character) result, he dies in the psychologist's office after decided, in that pass, to go with his mother in the train trip, which crashed killing him and his mother as the other passengers. So, I think that the viewer intervention is just an illusion. The options only gives you the feeling that your choices is relevant but in the end it isn’t. About that, is important to say that this idea was explicit point out in the “episode”. First, when Stefan watches that VHS documentary, an old woman always says that destiny is unchangeable; and in the version of the finale when Stefan makes a top notch game, he tells his employer that the secret of the success was, not how much possible outcome the choices the player made could give (so he did not need to make a bunch of storylines), but that the “choices” given was in fact an illusion, the end was always, invariantly, the same.
I did the same thing and it led me on the path that "it" wanted me to take!! I'm doneeee with this episode getting praisee
i don’t know if this happened to anyone else but as i was trying to get different endings stemming from killing stefan’s dad stefan would answer the phone and answer thakurs question before he even asked it or just hang up right away causing thakur to come to the house
also i was sorta punished for skipping stuff i had already seen by stefan making the decisions for me or the clips switching to new ones
How do I get to the park where Stephan is asked to kill Collin or to let him go
there was an ad for this while I was watching it im scared
I got the ending where Stephan goes back in time and goes with his mom on the train and ends up dying in the present day in his therapists office
This was so amazing. Thanks Black Mirror
I heard that there's a way to get him to pick up the photo and dream that he BREAKS the mirror rather than going through it... anyone??
i liked the ending where the mom didn't leave and get on the train instead had breakfast with them but stefan in the present time died on a chair while in therapy
I hope they use that interactive feature in more episodes and in different netflix shows
can yall help me, i didnt saw the movie on netflix, why couldnt i make choices like yall? only on netflix you are allowed to make choices?
Yup, you've got to pay (or visit a friend.) It is truly unbootleggable.
@@garthbigelow hmm ok, i have netflix but my dad stoped paying it cuz of my grades :(
I tried so hard to give Stephen a happy ending, but I forgot its w black mirror episode.
Brain pilot are you expecting for season 3 for big mouth?
As someone who always picks the good guy choices in choose your own adventure type games and stories picking the bad choices like killing your dad was uncomfortable lol I think that’s also an intentional part of the experience too
What about the ending where the Netflix directors come on set?
i remember seeing a theory that the recurrence of the white bear symbol was supposed to signify that this episode is stefan's torture (like victoria's from the white bear episode), especially since every time he woke up he gasped in that exact way that victoria did. in this theory, then, /we're/ the audience from white bear, and we're taking enjoyment in his torture, since every choice leads to a bad ending for stefan.
That’s a cool theory!
I like that. I definitely didn't connect the gasping even though I was working on tying in the symbol.
main endings/endings that let you go to the credits (spoilers):
1) the fight with the psychologist and his dad dragging him out
2) the fight with the psychologist and stefan finding that he's in a movie/film set
3) PAC ending where stefan finds out (or imagines) that his father was controlling him in an experiment.
4) 5/5 ending where you kill and cut up the dad and stefan gets imprisoned. colin's daughter works on a netflix adaption of it in the future.
5) Toy ending where stefan goes on the train with his mom and dies in the past, causing stefan to die in the future. this is my favorite ending.
the first time i watched it i took the pac ending and the toy ending and neither of them took me to the credits. the fight with his dad and the psychologist ended the episode for me
What a mindfuck experience. After that I gotta admit myself to the Saint Juniper's Medical Practice. 〰Interference〰
Everything's good. I don't have to question the nature of what's happening. I'm content.
Thank you for making this video! It's so hard to tell people that hate this episode because of the choices. But I agree this is briliiant and fhe episode will be so personal.
The soundtrack was fucking awesome
What did everyone think of the presenter that rates the game in the various endings?
The action scene ending I took as Stefan going insane and assaulting Dr Haynes, then his father barging in to stop Stefan, especially with Stefan screaming at the end seeming like he has lost his mind. He is an unreliable narrator, I doubt that Dr Haynes fought like we saw at all.
Youre supposed to keep going and get every ending possible, each time you start over or make different options, it carries over and stefan remembers certain things collin said from the previous time, ultimately resulting in stefan calling a phone number that was hidden in certain sentences throughout the story