The Explosive Games of Low Rated Players
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2021
- Gotham and Hikaru finish their ELO Is Right match and get caught by surprise.
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Meyer: Plays blitz game on the toilet one day
Hikaru: I am so disappointed in Meyer
XD
Dude you play your best chess on the toilet, wdym.
@@jacobwest6884 nah I definitely play worse on the toilet lol I prefer being on my computer if I can
was he actually on the toilet that game lmao
@@N8teDiggity i prefer playing hyperbullet on my samsung smart fridge
Everyone's an ELO guesser until Gotham arrives.
Ya i mean even in the episodes the man is crazzyyy accurate, like he's really good at it
@@fornito530 He has been doing this for months, so no surprise here
I was super happy, I guessed the 725 exactly! But to be fair its easy to see your own mistakes. lol
@@binnieb173 LoL
Tbh both Levy and Hikaru did pretty poorly on this one. How neither of them recognised those 1300s who kept missing basic tactics like forks, pins, and discoveries, and just overall kept shuffling pieces about with no intent whatsoever; or how both failed to pick up on starkingly obvious displays of understanding such as fianchettoing the bishop, finding pins, doubling the rooks on an open file, etc in that 1000 game; or how they were both oblivious to that 1500's overtly (relatively) high-level ideas such as restricting the opponent's most dangerous piece, opening up the position while the opponent's king is still in the centre, as well White's constant awareness of tactics such as pins and discoveries; is, frankly, beyond me. I wouldn't say that Levy ended Hikaru's elo-guessing career. More like Hikaru ended his own elo-guessing career tbh as he had an absolute shocker of a guessing spree (especially those completely inexplicable 1950, 2100, and 900 guesses).
Hikaru: Hmm this looks high elo, lets say 2150.
Levy: They trash, 1000 take it or leave it.
I dont think you understand the meme correctly.
@@Curovicky Sorry, are you drunk?
@@Curovicky Sorry are you drunk
so who was drunk that day?
Answer the question.
WHO WAS DRUNK THAT DAY!?
26:00 I'm just below 1400 as well, and this is such a wild rating level. One game you are playing brilliantly, seeing cool tactics and sacrifices, with both players above 90% accuracy. Next game you're like: "whoops, blundered my queen on move 5".
Yeah, I am around the same level. Wild fluctuations in quality.
The amount of times I’ve played a great 10 minute game then blunder a opening trap next game because I was impatient is crazy
Yeah bro, I feel you, I am in similar stage 😁😁
u think u are playing brilliantly at 1400???? LOLLLL
@@nolanthomas4950 I once had a 95% accuracy game at 800, at these levels you're sort of just being lucky with your moves because you don't understand really what you should be doing
Never knew how much I would enjoy seeing hikaru guess the elo, it really is like a billionaire guessing how much everyday groceries cost. Man is on an entirely different planet than the plebs he's rating.
Wow levy just ended hikaru’s EloGuessing career
levy is pretty accurate even on his episodes, he's always really really close
Hikaru merely adopted Elo guessing. Gotham was born in it and raised by it.
Hikaru sucks at elo guessing lol
@@ljm37 Hikaru merly adopted the Elo guessing. Gotham was born in it, molded by it, he didn't see the high elos until he was a grown man and by then it nothing to him but blinding.
@@currentmood9568 hikaru is so strong that he has trouble imagining what normal people at different levels play at.
Hikaru is too strong and used to chess, I think he has a hard time imagining how sub IM people think about chess. And Levy was a chess teacher, so maybe it is more natural to him and the blunders not as surprising.
not to mention his guess the elo series which gave him additional experience
@@Tyler-bp4md Honestly he was already guessing pretty good near the beginning the series
@@JoeARedHawk275 I think Hikaru plays against lower ELO players quite a bunch too though. They probably both have a good understanding what changes with higher rated play. It's not easy to really pinpoint the exact ELO. And Levy _actually_ has pleeeenty of guess the ELOs where he was way way way off.
@@PHeMoX yeah but levy is like "oh he took on e6 to make d6 weak even though its a positional blunder" cause he teaches chess so he knows where the blunders come from and the train of thought, hikaru just says "this is so bad, this is terrible," cause hes been an master level player most of his life
It's def because Levy was a chess teacher. Hikaru got so good so quickly that he could probably life off playing pretty early on so wouldn't have needed to teach as much as Levy did.
Meier did that? Really? Really? MEIER? DID THAT? REALLY. (continues for some time)
quite some time haha
Wait really? MEIER PLAYED THAT? Really? That?
Levy starts talki- “REALLY?! HE PLAYED Ne4?? REALLY?”
Really? I am so disappointed in Meier.
I don't mind being wrong but... Really!?
They see too many layers on a move, which make them think it's a hard move. As a 1000, I just tries to improve my pieces without making a 1 move blunder.
Levy said "yeah, but it was an accident!" about 5 times, which was worth about 800 points in that game.
Right, I'm 1300 Lichess (which is what, 130 chess com?), and I see a lot of the moves Hikaru thinks you need to be a GM to see, but then I blunder back rank mate the next move
@@CheddarBro And knight maneuvers, rerouting bishops, pawn breaks, sac-ing pieces for passed pawns, exchange sacrifice, these kind of "advanced" things. I see them but I never know how good they actually are.
@@Starguy256 what’s the different between chess and lichess elo?
@@CheddarBro i dont think mind blank 1min just move move and hopexfor a win c:p.
Levy is a chess player of the common man that's why he does well in ELO guessing. Hikaru is a super GM whose skills put him on a level with few others so it's harder for him to recognize the chess playing of the common person lol
I feel like his experience as a chess coach/teacher is a big reason as to why he does better
That and Levy's most iconic youtube series is about guessing Elo
I don't think Meier has disappointed someone so much in his life....
he was pretty disappointed
@@joethomas8342 i think he was surprised Meier really played knight e4
*GothamChess:* "Nice trick."
*GMHikaru:* "Nice trick into the draw :D"
lmao
“Idiots are people too” - Levy Rozman 2021
all idiots are people but not all people are idiots
@@reginaanderson6733 All people are idiots at something, but some people realize this and some people don't.
Imagine if they REVIEW a old game of levy...and levy didn't recognise...and started yelling....😂😂😂
BOSS
So, the creator of that website actually did that to Levy. He saw Levy was streaming his website and changed it to only his games.
@@user-svqmbiv link?
@@Joe-bb4yi I kinda want it too
@@user-svqmbiv link
When Hikaru is hyperanalyzing a Bishop move by a 1300 player he looks at positional advantage and long term ideas. IRL 1300 players be like *I'm just trying not to blunder man*
29:30 Honestly queen takes pawn on b5 is literally the worst chess move I've ever seen LOL
I think this move can only be topped by playing something like Qd8 as black when there's a white pawn on c7/e7, the pawn takes and queens with back rank mate. I can't think of anything worse.
I know it's hard to guess right, but in hindsight it's funny to see that the 1362 player was considered better than the 2452
Lmao they literally called Meier an idiot in the first half lol
I love to see you guys together like brothers, discussing people's elo.
Hikaru: literally drops his bishop in a professional game against Magnus a few weeks ago
Also Hikaru: really? A gm played Ne4? Really? Really? I mean really?
He wants to look like he's the best and any other gm lower than his rating is just "meh". That's why he makes it look that other gms are stupid when they blunder but he himself isn't.
That was pretty bad but it wasn't in the opening tbf
Buuuut, that being said, I do feel hikaru was really going on a bit long about the ne4 blunder lol
@@mandycruz Oh so you’re the psychoanalyzing idiot Gotham was talking about when he recapped his game where he panicked into the hippo
Okay okay, stop crying kid. So how much love do you have for hikaru? Lol
Also don't start with "Oh" when you're gonna argue with someone. That makes you sound like a brat arguing with her boyfriend 😂
These two are the best! So much interesting content to keep us entertained!
What separates Hikaru and Levy from other chess streamers is their opinionated personalities. They are not afraid to honestly engage with chat, their fans and most importantly their haters, which is hilarious!
hikaru straight up changes his guess last minute to try and grab on to Gotham's genius without making it too obvious at the end to his chat
Thats the game
GuessTheElo series really paid off for levy
The bit where Levy tells Hikaru a trash talk story and Hikaru just TOTALLY ignores him and Levy is like :( is so good haha.
I thought the video title would be a funny diss to Levy's current tournament games and that the video would be a recap of one of Levy's games lol
That's exactly what I thought as well lmaoo
I thought that too
@@yagamilight5026 me too
I mean, he is posting those as well
I have seen low rated players create the most amazingly complex positions. Some of them I bet would even confuse Tal. btw the position at 3:48 yes you want to play Ke3 or Kg3 but due to the related squares principle Kf3 puts your K on a square from which you can play either Ke3 or Kg3 depending on black's move. Kf3 looks more principled.
30:09 Qxb5 I was waiting for Hikaru to say: "Yeah, it shows very good understanding, 1 piece for 2 pieces, nice"
Chess Player: Plays
Hikaru: Yeah, I have no idea you guys
This video series is one of my favorite on all of youtube! Keep it up Hikaru!
Levy: We wont show nicknames cuz u guys will write them mean messeges.
Hikaru: Yeah *frowns cuz he wanted to insult someone in their dms in the first ep but mods didnt allow it*
I think Hikaru is too good at chess he lost touch with the rest of us lol.
This is a message to Hikaru's editor: you're a legend bro, keep it up!!😂😂
I feel like either the standard for lower rated chess players has gotten better or that grandmasters and international masters are so good at chess that they can't relate to being a beginner or being a intermediate player 🤔
12:35 just casually bans some people in chat
gotta feel good being that 1300 with hikaru saying u played the game near optimally
I though this video was going to be.a recap of Levy's game. 🤣🤣
He posted those as well
Hikaru after every game: "I have no idea, you guys"
levy the goat in guess the elo
"king goes both ways" 😂😂😂
Miss an easy fork.
Hikaru: It's 2150.
@@aman-qj5sx Really? I am not convinced about the Magnus part.
@@aman-qj5sx I do agree it doesn't prove much though. Just kinda funny.
Same energy as "how much could a banana cost, like 5 dollars?". The man is so much better than the regular people that he doesn't understand ratings at all
"I enjoyed it" You can see from his body language he HATES to lose at anything
As much as I like Hikaru’s content I hate his attitude sometimes. Such a sore loser
yeah dude :/
Every single round is just: "I'll try to come up with something... I have no idea for this one guys"
Any game on elo guesser exists...
Hikaru : I've no idea you guys
23:50 "it could be 2350"
The disappointment on levy’s face after the first game was GOLD.
Hikaru: I don't think a 500 would resign because he's blundered his rook for the 5th time today (I know it wasn't actually blundered).
Also Hikaru: No way someone below 2000 would be able to count attackers and defenders.
Come now. Hikaru. That Meier game ending was too good for it to be anything else other than a GM game. Only people who actually take chess that seriously will get to that level to be able to practice end games often enough, to get to that level.
People makes mistake (plus idk, maybe Meier trying out something?) so yeah
I thought this was going to be Hikaru reviewing round 4 of the las vegas games, that would have been a spicy title :D
THE START MONTAGE THO
This is one of the best series of videos i have ever watched, on chess.
Guys I think Hikaru hasn't seen a 400 resign, not 100% sure tho, might need more confirmation.
3:00 “your king goes both ways” KEKW
he thinks you need 1500 to put a rook behind a pawn 😭😭😭
So in short, if you want to impress Hikaru, find one or two decent moves in the endgame.
A 1300 vs a 1300 makes the game look like it’s 2000 rated. Hikaru and Levy overestimate the amount of blunders lower rated players make against each other.
I just want to know why Meier doesn’t like Levy
Nice starting montage
Hikaru slashing gms love it
1st guess:
Hikaru "if Levy goes higher I go higher as well" -> proceeds to not go higher and loses first guess
Hikaru - " I don't know anyone below 2000 can play Nd2"
Me who's 1500 ...."hey I can"
Why does Hikaru always say he has no idea, then proceed to give a logical explanation for the rating he guesses???
Well it's the same as him saying "I have misplayed this somehow" and winning the game.
It's same as "I don't care"
Maybe, because he had no idea, he tried to work it out logically.
I have no idea, either. Wait, maybe I have an idea after all.
He also routinely says, "I'm just very bad at chess."
29:31 what a Rollercoaster of emotions.
Hikaru don't feel bad if you can't beat Levy at this It's a long time running series on his channel and he's pretty damn good at it.
If Hikaru was a fruit, he would be an apple.
Huh?
He may not be a fruit but he definitely fruitY
Is there a place for apple juicer?
If magnus was a machine ,he would be apple juicer.
Wow, that 725 now gives me hope haha
nice start montage
22:28 Imagine being 1300 and first Hikaru's thought about your game - this game is not 2600
Levy is the GOAT Elo guesser
GMhikaru - "Let me talk to my chat for 30 seconds"
continues to talk for 10 minutes
GothamChess has the correct point. POG champs has professional coaches that instruct them to never ever resign, because you just need to practice and you never know when a 800 will hang a queen on a protected pawn.
Hikaru fr just blasting Meier damn - Great content though :)
would be interesting if the admin secretly adds a Magnus's or Stockfish's game. 😂😂😂
You should do follow-ups where you invite the players to discuss their thought processes. Would be especially good to hear from the 1300s that play really well.
Superb intro!
31:00 that game can easily be a tilted 1000 having a bad day (I would know). Or a 500 and anything in between.
Old videos but depending on the order of the guesses Hikaru could have won a couple of rounds just by guessing one point lower/higher. Maybe that defeats the spirit of the game but it would be the same tactics that are used on The Price Is Right.
Levy is such a god of guess the elo that the only 2 games he loses is a horrible 1400 game and his only weakness the 1600
I like when Hikaru is nice to Levy lol
26:46 black made white appear to be a above 1362 player, black created white good moves and white is very creative soo xD, guess thats what B Fischer was refering to, that at lower elo you enjoy more chess games and at higher elo is just memory practice.
lol, with Levy on a tournament I actually thought that the title fo this video was regarding the tournaments players haha "The Explosive Games of Low Rated Players"
36:37 lmfao my manz wanted to say 0
Hikaru literally shitting on Meyer for 10 mins lmao
29:36 didn't know this noise was something a human could make
lol at 25:38! this is an older video so Hikaru probably wont see this comment, but yes there are new players that do listen to what you chess pros say & apply it correctly. Hikaru & Judit & Maurice & Finegold & Krush & Kasparov & Carlsen & Levy teach about chess principles, etc. but the new player just may still have a lower rating just due to not playing too frequently or some other reason.
If you cut off the guesses with are more than 200 points away (which makes sense, because the opponents are also just 200 points away from each other) levy wins with 5:0 and Hikaru has one guess in range only. =D
me, who plays kiddie countergambit to wayward queen every time:
These guys remember whole game playing blind folded yet can't recall who guessed first last game 🤣
Hilary said really? 10 times when he saw Miyer's game 😂😂
32:00 my guess for Qxb5 is that this is a bullet game and White had 0.4s left on the clock
My favorite bromance on the Internet
400s never resign.. lmao.. 😂😂
Idk that Hikaru understands how often below 500s ragequit
LOL has hikaru ever seen a 400 😂
Someone knows if the games they guess are all at certain time format? or they can be bullet, or rapid or wherever??
Because there is a huge huge difference in how someone plays depending the time format, and I dont remember hearing them discussing that..
All are blitz games
25:50 I feel as though lower-rated players have gotten much better at chess recently. I'm legit only elo 996 and I've played a few full games where neither me nor my opponent blunders
I'm 1500 and still miss free pieces and forks :-(
Love your videos man but can you get your editor to slow down the speed the ads transition? Giving me an anxiety attack 😂
With that title i thought hikaru would cover the games of gothamchess xD
I’m a biggest fan of yours
If it's 'bizzare' it's probably a low rated game. I'm 1300, we're capable of playing good moves on occasion too.