Lucas was quite frank back in 1977 that he had studied clips from a number of WWII films to block out the combat scenes. He wanted that part of his far-out sci-fi epic to fit Hollywood conventions and audience expectations.
The reason people refer to The Dambusters is because before Star Wars had its FX sequences shot, al the dogfights and space ship battles were put in with camera gun shots and war film footage as place holders. This is how it was originally shown to Ladd at 20th Century Fox. The Dambusters is the most obvious of these as lines of dialogue from the attack are directly lifted from the 1955 film, therefore it's obvious that the Death Star sequence was in part built up from it. But possibly 633 too.
Alot of tweeking but dramatically the scenes are VERY similar. There is some Tarkin windbaggery from some Germans and a torture scene (although no Solo rescue). Another film called Mosquito squadron (which uses bouncing bombs on a tunnel!) has the solosque last minute save.
Very good! although at 3:37 you included footage from the practice run with the chalk bombs. It's funny to see the big target with the sticky-tape 'X marks the spot' as if the Germans had set it up like that! The film 633 Squadron is really well made, and a good movie, let along a great war movie. There are quite a few other Star wars elements throughout the film you missed a trick a bit (the rebel base, the brother/ sister relationship ; the torture scene ... think vader and Leia......
well in a way you do as I believe the TIE engine noise is a p51 mustang played backwards (merlin under licensed). And your right only sound better than a merlin is 2 merlins.....
My brother and I loved this film when we were kids (OK, we still do...). We went to see Star Wars together when it first showed in theaters and when they began the Death Star attack, we turned to each other and said "633 squadron!"
Very Well Done! nice mashup. This movie was made in the early 60's using only 3 Mosquitos that were still flying. Impressive for those times. Nice Job! once again.
Lol, I never considered 633 squadron as being borrowed, only The Dam busters. Anyone else notice the end to Independence Day also borrowed a bit from these films? The narrow run with no room to manoeuvre, flights of 3 aircraft, last shot making the win?
Actually both 633 Squadron and Dam Busters inspired George Lucas, I think I remember he admitting it in one of the interviews shortly after his first film. Anybody who saw both films immediately saw the connection.
Well done Spartacus! very clever bit of editing. If only someone would make a film about the Mosquito raid on Amiens prison....now that WOULD be a classic. Mosquito was infinately better than the Lanc or the spit anyway.
I realised where he got the Death Star attack as soon as I saw it. Obvious to anyone who saw both films. Better theme tune in 633 Squadron and nicer machines! Originals always better!
FANTASTIC!!!....glad others had noticed the similarities,was getting slightly bored of telling my star wars friends how much the death star attack resembled 633 squadron!
The plans for the Mosquito exist, there are surviving moulds for at least some of the moulded parts, and there are (very occasional) Mosquitos in "museum condition" sold - usually for a fair chunk of change. In principle, restoration to flying condition is possible. There are also Mosquito projects, but progress reports from those are far and few between. It seems that the Mosquito is a lot tougher than Spitfires and Hurricanes, both of which have been replicated.
The question of whether George Lucas borrowed from The Dam Busters (NOT Dambusters) or from 633 Squadron rather overlooks the possibility that 633 Squadron borrowed from the Dam Busters. Oh, and isn't that bit at 4:21 from Mosquito Squadron, not 633?
Interesting, however as an aviation enthusiast. that mixing up of the X-Wings eninges with the mosquitos is horrible, since the Mosquitos merlin Motor has a destinctive and definately other sound, and most beautiful if you ever heard a real one. Else it is interesting. It fit pretty nicely, well it was always sayd that much of the fighting scenes were inspired by such films and in the first cuts they were placeholders until the trick scenes were done.
Oh definatly. Although vaguely remember hearing a story that the TIE noise was a mustang engine played backwards (which ironically would make it a merlin made under license). Just wish Mossies flew again...
@doffincodger When they were free to maneuver, yeah, usually. When locked into an attack run at a fixed altitude and airspeed, though, it would have been easier for the Germans to bounce them. The German "fighters" in 633 were Messerschmitt Bf108 Taifuns, BTW. The Taifun wasn't a fighter, it was a trainer. It's the same plane James Garner and Donald Pleasance stole to fly to Switzerland in "The Great Escape."
Classic. I'm actually watching 633 Squadron right now on Netflix. Nicely put together clips, but I always flt that the Rebel Base scenes with all the pilot chatter was taken right from the movie "Midway" Check it out sometime.
I thought so back when Stars came out, Very good spoof. I've always enjoyed 633 Squadron as well even though the special effects were primitive. Thank you.
hey the actor who played the australian pilot in this movie is the guy who did the narration of the vb ads before he died and he star in crocdile dundee with paul hogan.
when i see those old planes and i hear things like "lock s coils in attack position" or "switch shields to double front " i have to laugh XD 5:07 comes straight out of monty python "no im alright BLARGh" XXD
A Mosquito with German markings is used in the first part of the movie Where Eagles Dare, I seem to remember. The Germans also tried to reproduce the Mosquito, but their clone did not see the skies before the end of the war as far as I know.
Cheers- yeah thought about including that but it kind of doesn't mix with the planes so well. Its funny though I think I thought of that torture scene when I first saw starwars!
hahaha thats awesome, the bit at 5.08 where the bloke screams as the plane crashes into the cliff is too funny. Its kind of like a delayed chinese voice over movie death scene. lol!!
Great vid Sparacus ;) Lucas copied from everwhere and everything. It show's in Phantom Muzzled when he had to be totally original and no one said 'George! That idea stinks!' Shame really. The vision was great. the execution abit hap hazzard and corporate toy projected sales heavy. A New Hope and Empire are still bloody great though as is the original 633 :) As a by note. I heard Peter Jackson is rebooting 'The Dam Busters'. Hope it's a good 'un!
Lucas was quite frank back in 1977 that he had studied clips from a number of WWII films to block out the combat scenes. He wanted that part of his far-out sci-fi epic to fit Hollywood conventions and audience expectations.
May the Royal Air Force be with you!
"I just lost my starboard engine" -> it's the left wing that's on fire
My brother told me about this in 1977-- he recognized it immediately. Of course, I thought he was nuts and ignored him, until today. Great work!
The reason people refer to The Dambusters is because before Star Wars had its FX sequences shot, al the dogfights and space ship battles were put in with camera gun shots and war film footage as place holders. This is how it was originally shown to Ladd at 20th Century Fox. The Dambusters is the most obvious of these as lines of dialogue from the attack are directly lifted from the 1955 film, therefore it's obvious that the Death Star sequence was in part built up from it. But possibly 633 too.
Lucas always acknowledged this and other films as an influence on Star Wars.
mosquitos flying in 3's down a fijord, no room to manouver, having to hit a precision target, being fired at by flak, hunted by 109's.....
Excellent mashup. Lucas, however, has publicly acknowledged "The Dambusters" and other WWII films were a huge influence on the death star sequence.
"I can't shake it! I've got a wire attached to my wing!"
Alot of tweeking but dramatically the scenes are VERY similar. There is some Tarkin windbaggery from some Germans and a torture scene (although no Solo rescue). Another film called Mosquito squadron (which uses bouncing bombs on a tunnel!) has the solosque last minute save.
Very good! although at 3:37 you included footage from the practice run with the chalk bombs. It's funny to see the big target with the sticky-tape 'X marks the spot' as if the Germans had set it up like that!
The film 633 Squadron is really well made, and a good movie, let along a great war movie. There are quite a few other Star wars elements throughout the film you missed a trick a bit (the rebel base, the brother/ sister relationship ; the torture scene ... think vader and Leia......
It seems Mr. Lucas borrowed several ideass from several movies not only this one.
That's amazing! Lucas copied the entire audio track from this sequence DIRECTLY from this movie?
Yeah, George Lucas did say the fjiord run inspired the trench run in Star Wars:-)
well in a way you do as I believe the TIE engine noise is a p51 mustang played backwards (merlin under licensed). And your right only sound better than a merlin is 2 merlins.....
sir... I was abot to dismiss this out of hand.. HOWEVER
Well done to do this... great editing
5 stars and added to my fav list
The Force is strong in this one.. brilliant editing.. well done
"hey the actor who played the australian pilot in this movie is the guy who ...."
his name is John Mellion
The theme tune for this was epic!
My brother and I loved this film when we were kids (OK, we still do...). We went to see Star Wars together when it first showed in theaters and when they began the Death Star attack, we turned to each other and said "633 squadron!"
it's a mix, there's a line from dam busters near the beginning, the trench run is from 633 squadron, and the final explosion is from Guns of Navarone.
Very Well Done! nice mashup. This movie was made in the early 60's using only 3 Mosquitos that were still flying. Impressive for those times. Nice Job! once again.
Outstanding! -Jeremy Sindon (Gold two - "3 marks at two ten") played a bomb disposal officer in a great series from the 1979 called "Danger uxb".
OLD OLD OLD old old old republic
Lol, I never considered 633 squadron as being borrowed, only The Dam busters. Anyone else notice the end to Independence Day also borrowed a bit from these films? The narrow run with no room to manoeuvre, flights of 3 aircraft, last shot making the win?
Actually both 633 Squadron and Dam Busters inspired George Lucas, I think I remember he admitting it in one of the interviews shortly after his first film. Anybody who saw both films immediately saw the connection.
Good work Spartacus. Lucas doesn't deny getting inspiration from WWII movies, but I'm not sure it was this specific one.
Well done Spartacus! very clever bit of editing. If only someone would make a film about the Mosquito raid on Amiens prison....now that WOULD be a classic. Mosquito was infinately better than the Lanc or the spit anyway.
I realised where he got the Death Star attack as soon as I saw it. Obvious to anyone who saw both films. Better theme tune in 633 Squadron and nicer machines! Originals always better!
FANTASTIC!!!....glad others had noticed the similarities,was getting slightly bored of telling my star wars friends how much the death star attack resembled 633 squadron!
The plans for the Mosquito exist, there are surviving moulds for at least some of the moulded parts, and there are (very occasional) Mosquitos in "museum condition" sold - usually for a fair chunk of change. In principle, restoration to flying condition is possible. There are also Mosquito projects, but progress reports from those are far and few between. It seems that the Mosquito is a lot tougher than Spitfires and Hurricanes, both of which have been replicated.
The question of whether George Lucas borrowed from The Dam Busters (NOT Dambusters) or from 633 Squadron rather overlooks the possibility that 633 Squadron borrowed from the Dam Busters.
Oh, and isn't that bit at 4:21 from Mosquito Squadron, not 633?
Interesting, however as an aviation enthusiast. that mixing up of the X-Wings eninges with the mosquitos is horrible, since the Mosquitos merlin Motor has a destinctive and definately other sound, and most beautiful if you ever heard a real one. Else it is interesting. It fit pretty nicely, well it was always sayd that much of the fighting scenes were inspired by such films and in the first cuts they were placeholders until the trick scenes were done.
Oh definatly. Although vaguely remember hearing a story that the TIE noise was a mustang engine played backwards (which ironically would make it a merlin made under license). Just wish Mossies flew again...
@doffincodger When they were free to maneuver, yeah, usually. When locked into an attack run at a fixed altitude and airspeed, though, it would have been easier for the Germans to bounce them.
The German "fighters" in 633 were Messerschmitt Bf108 Taifuns, BTW. The Taifun wasn't a fighter, it was a trainer. It's the same plane James Garner and Donald Pleasance stole to fly to Switzerland in "The Great Escape."
Classic. I'm actually watching 633 Squadron right now on Netflix. Nicely put together clips, but I always flt that the Rebel Base scenes with all the pilot chatter was taken right from the movie "Midway" Check it out sometime.
Totally agree, besides those twin Merlins sound better than a TIE.
The Force will be with you..........yeah that would be the Royal Air Force
I thought so back when Stars came out, Very good spoof. I've always enjoyed 633 Squadron as well even though the special effects were primitive. Thank you.
Hilarious!
Well done! I got a laugh outa' this one!
great stuff -very clever -as a fan of Mosquitos and Star Wars I really appreciated this!
Remake 633 Squadron please George Lucas
I've thought this since 1977 when I first saw Star Wars!
Yes the navigator (Stewie Macfee) (short one from the great escape) is practically R2D
...except for a minor glitch at 2:20 this was very well done...matching up the audio with the video was excellent....
An excellent interpretaion, well done. A difficult film to edit.
God damn it, it's almost shot for shot in places.
Thats the Folkewolf TA 154 i believe which was a German wooden plane - inspired by the British "wooden wonder" called the Dehaviiland Mosquito
All kinds of awesome - two of my favourite movies!!!
Right On! Thought exactly the same thing myself the first time I saw Star Wars back in '77.
A better theatrical trailer than the original!!
I like this film too.
The special effects are pretty corny in places .
It has a brilliant theme tune.
Fantastic editing!
consider this fav'ed.
yes but where was Hann Solo and his Millenium Falcon ?
nice - my two fave films combined
cheers mate
OMG! WTF! LOL! That was just about scene for scene... Wow.... Darn you George Lucus!
Good job matching the voice to the mouth movements
That was brilliant! Five stars easily! Great mixing skills!
Damn Clever! But miss the Merlin 'Moaning!
hey the actor who played the australian pilot in this movie is the guy who did the narration of the vb ads before he died and he star in crocdile dundee with paul hogan.
I especially liked the briefing scene... and the firing sound effects go so well with the lousy visuals!
I can't even begin to tell you how awesome this is and at some points it even made me laugh like at 05:07 XD
once again great job on this video
when i see those old planes and i hear things like "lock s coils in attack position" or "switch shields to double front " i have to laugh XD 5:07 comes straight out of monty python "no im alright BLARGh" XXD
This was funny great editing!
Thanks Enterprise! Thats even better I think- apt that a merline would be used for the Falcon.
Heh, excellent stuff! Lucas obviously took lots of scenes from both Dambusters and 633 Sqdrn., the pilfering cad.
Yeah the video has been chopped around a little, but the sound is pretty much the trench run shortened.
The De Havilland Mosquito was generally too fast to be shot down by enemy fighters ?
I think they have, it's called 'Mosquito Squadron'
This is excellent parody mate well done!! Love both comparisons, obviously no offence to WW2 either, a lot of brave men in fiction but in spirit
@roguewarrior5 Lucas him self said it inspired the Death Star trench run.
Oh... I also loved this movie too. hehe Sit and watch it with dad. Awesome.
I'd say both film's influenced Star Wars.
The 633 will be with you, always.
ALWAIS!
Staring Angus Lennie as R2D2!
Lucas was 9 years old when he saw this !
and "may the force be with you"
LOL !
Masterful. It works so well.
I used to bullseye womp rats. That bit cracked me up!
This edit is amazing.
absolutely brilliant
I always thought there were some similarities. This is great.
A Mosquito with German markings is used in the first part of the movie Where Eagles Dare, I seem to remember. The Germans also tried to reproduce the Mosquito, but their clone did not see the skies before the end of the war as far as I know.
Brilliant Bloody Brilliant Thank you
Cheers- yeah thought about including that but it kind of doesn't mix with the planes so well. Its funny though I think I thought of that torture scene when I first saw starwars!
hahaha thats awesome, the bit at 5.08 where the bloke screams as the plane crashes into the cliff is too funny. Its kind of like a delayed chinese voice over movie death scene. lol!!
...nicely done
True- atleast Lucas had the imagination to transpose it to space - Emmerich didn't even make that leap.
awesome. great job
That was awsome, well done
Too funny. And pretty much accurate where he got some of the footage.
Thanks for sharing
Oh, great movie 633 Squadron is too. Well worth the watching.
crying from laughing hahahaha great video
Yep,if only there was one still flying...
Great vid Sparacus ;)
Lucas copied from everwhere and everything. It show's in Phantom Muzzled when he had to be totally original and no one said 'George! That idea stinks!'
Shame really. The vision was great. the execution abit hap hazzard and corporate toy projected sales heavy.
A New Hope and Empire are still bloody great though as is the original 633 :)
As a by note. I heard Peter Jackson is rebooting 'The Dam Busters'. Hope it's a good 'un!
RIP Poorkins..
Great vid!
@roguewarrior5
except that lucas has said that 633 squadran inspired the trench run in star wars.
Man this made me laugh.... thanks for putting it together.
He also played a US sailor in the movie "On the Beach."
lol i remember watching this movie...
Bravo ! Well done !