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Komentáře • 332

  • @linhtang122
    @linhtang122 Před 4 lety +602

    What if you wanted
    To kill Shulk
    But Shulk said
    SHIELD

    • @SJdaHeadband
      @SJdaHeadband Před 4 lety +8

      -rupi kaur

    • @Swordmaster7th
      @Swordmaster7th Před 4 lety +17

      I read this,
      at a slow,
      power point pace.

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 Před 4 lety +4

      Then I would just combo him better

    • @raincabreros4857
      @raincabreros4857 Před 4 lety +16

      QuacklQuacks doing shiek damage

    • @alanmatteo2904
      @alanmatteo2904 Před 2 lety

      You probably dont give a damn but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account?
      I stupidly forgot my account password. I love any tips you can offer me

  • @qualia4673
    @qualia4673 Před 4 lety +376

    This is the best time to be a Shulk main
    Everyone's popoffs at the end were hilarous, especially Uncivil Ninja's lmao

  • @ericzhang4243
    @ericzhang4243 Před 3 lety +111

    This is why the word sh*lk is banned in Marss’ chat

  • @leaf8554
    @leaf8554 Před 4 lety +173

    The way Kome switches and utilizes Monado Arts mid match is incredible. Awesome set.

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 Před 4 lety +8

      And he knows when to use each one and when not to

    • @awsmcurt8608
      @awsmcurt8608 Před 3 lety

      eh this matchup is awful and its not that hard to hit the b button

    • @noahtawil8793
      @noahtawil8793 Před 3 lety +5

      @@awsmcurt8608 it’s not that hard to jump and hit the A button either

    • @janswhatsupdoc
      @janswhatsupdoc Před 3 lety +3

      @@awsmcurt8608 it’s not that hard to press the R button either

    • @javiergtz135
      @javiergtz135 Před 3 lety +2

      @@awsmcurt8608 lmao sit down

  • @mycoinsyourpurse2244
    @mycoinsyourpurse2244 Před 4 lety +229

    Damn, thise were actually some big brain Monado plays.

    • @MintyMinster
      @MintyMinster Před 4 lety +6

      @Bananeen 0, yeah I love BBM
      B - Dad
      B - Come
      M - Back

    • @raincabreros4857
      @raincabreros4857 Před 4 lety +1

      Monado arts you uncultured swine

    • @dende_ult714
      @dende_ult714 Před 4 lety +8

      @@raincabreros4857 you're confused my guy

    • @kungfumaster298
      @kungfumaster298 Před 3 lety

      @@raincabreros4857 Wacha talkin about? He's not talkin about Monado Arts

  • @TeleportlabsETH
    @TeleportlabsETH Před 4 lety +330

    Damn, first Shulk I see that lives up to the hype.

    • @fupalover
      @fupalover Před 4 lety +27

      Nicko?

    • @EED1_evilsbane
      @EED1_evilsbane Před 4 lety +2

      Hector Flores wanna 1v1?

    • @MLPflutterguy
      @MLPflutterguy Před 4 lety +60

      Marcus Rondo hate to say it but kome is way better with shulk then nicko.
      i’ve been a nicko fan since smash 4 and even i know that kome plays shulk better then him.

    • @GodsNightwolf27
      @GodsNightwolf27 Před 4 lety +8

      MLPfluttershy i’m pretty sure in streams a while back even nicko called kome the best shulk

    • @anibalvaldebenito8810
      @anibalvaldebenito8810 Před 4 lety +14

      @@MLPflutterguy i would say that nicko plays him more "normally" than kome, but kome pushes the character to his limits

  • @SaMiChi
    @SaMiChi Před 4 lety +98

    Shulk Mains Rise Up! That last game last stock couldn't of had ended in a more Shulk manner. Switch into 2 arts offstage, from defense to offense, to get the kill. Amazing.

  • @vedhanxeno
    @vedhanxeno Před 4 lety +255

    This was the best moment of the night. Uncivil, Tremendo, Derek, Jared, Selah and I were screaming our heads off and seeing Kome get such a huge win like this felt unreal. Shulk broke

    • @lnpREKKA
      @lnpREKKA Před 4 lety +23

      fuuuck, that shield switch up to jump then air slash was CRAZY like holy shit

    • @Kirusei
      @Kirusei Před 4 lety +4

      Wish I was there

    • @joseaybar5354
      @joseaybar5354 Před 4 lety +3

      This is the power of the monados!!!

    • @txnafish
      @txnafish Před 4 lety +2

      brog moment

    • @Flare8295
      @Flare8295 Před 2 lety

      @@Kirusei Me too

  • @user-zg1gj7sj7s
    @user-zg1gj7sj7s Před 4 lety +65

    22:24 KOME is insane

  • @tymartin2519
    @tymartin2519 Před 4 lety +129

    Finally, kome showing us the monado's power! Great set, nice to see a shulk take a set from a top player

    • @wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos
      @wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos Před 4 lety +8

      I'm a zss main and what happened on that set hurts my soul

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 Před 4 lety

      @@wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos does marss have a secondary/pocket?

    • @vicenarian340
      @vicenarian340 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bruce4139 He has since pocketed Snake as a secondary.

  • @thegoat-sg5hg
    @thegoat-sg5hg Před 4 lety +111

    Shulk mains going crazyyyyy let’s gooooo xenoblade that GOAT game 🐐🐐🐐

  • @dylanr.7760
    @dylanr.7760 Před 4 lety +34

    Holy moly....Shulk isn’t just potential but now straight up facts.

  • @kevindelgado3396
    @kevindelgado3396 Před 4 lety +255

    Is Shulks tier list placement finally going to be based on results and not “potential”?????

    • @mr.moodle8836
      @mr.moodle8836 Před 4 lety +66

      I mean, they were still correct to place him so highly based on potential. Marss literally had to play unlike he does against any other character to take a single game, and this is probably some of his most defensive play ever too. Shield art is busted af, you literally can't combo this character. Maybe you could learn matchup specific combos that work when he's in shield art, but then he could just switch OUT of shield art and get out of range. It doesn't take results to see that Shulk is suuuuuuuuuuper busted. Hopefully, results coming in will show people that he's not just top 15 but honestly probably top 5, maybe even better.

    • @jijmotorp3079
      @jijmotorp3079 Před 4 lety +20

      @@mr.moodle8836 i think he is definetly top 5 contender : im sure the 3 bests are snake joker and peach (arguably pikachu too) and then you have top 5 contenders with : olimar, ptrainer, inkling, shulk, lucina, wario, palutena, Wolf, fox and GANON

    • @duckdudette
      @duckdudette Před 4 lety +7

      @@jijmotorp3079 I agree, other than Joker top 3 (he's more like top 5/10, he is just favoured by some great players) and Ganon (his recovery and frame data just can't cut him into top tier, probably not high tier either).

    • @hatsunemiku8007
      @hatsunemiku8007 Před 4 lety +49

      @@jijmotorp3079 I thought you were making sense until you said ganon is top 5 LMAOOOOO

    • @antonioizquierdo2331
      @antonioizquierdo2331 Před 4 lety +18

      Ganon, as buffed as he got from 4 to ult, is still nowhere near high tier. He's a very good mid tier. His overall mobility, frame data and recovery holds him back. I like to call Ganon a "gatekeeper" character because he's a scrub stomper. Most high level players know how to play around Ganon's cheese while less experienced players get read like a book.

  • @scruffytrav
    @scruffytrav Před 3 lety +16

    THATS WHY MARSS BANNED THE WORD SHULK OHHHHHHH

  • @apes4days254
    @apes4days254 Před 4 lety +84

    Didn't even know you could grab the training bag LMFAO

  • @k_2590
    @k_2590 Před 4 lety +36

    コメシュルクが勝った時海外のシュルク使いが揃ってモナド掲げるの熱いな、、

  • @OyVeey
    @OyVeey Před 4 lety +12

    shoutouts to the guy in the audience with the monado, you rock

  • @colonelchester
    @colonelchester Před 4 lety +45

    11:30 shield art canceled into jump art in the duration zss f smash had endlag into a punish to optimize damage and followups

    • @pierreaoun9600
      @pierreaoun9600 Před 4 lety +8

      Colonel Chester wtf I didn’t even notice the jump switch. Kome is OD.

    • @pistarrafernandez9830
      @pistarrafernandez9830 Před 4 lety

      Kome should've changed to buster instead of jump, but was a nice play

  • @Fenyll_Fur
    @Fenyll_Fur Před 4 lety +18

    Kome played so clean game 1. It was awesome to watch.

  • @FenixPlateado
    @FenixPlateado Před 4 lety +24

    They called me crazy for sticking to shulk, whos laughing now

  • @getbn6547
    @getbn6547 Před 4 lety +30

    Big win for Shulk. Bigger win for Kome. Good job to both players!

  • @Kirusei
    @Kirusei Před 4 lety +3

    AMAZING MATCH!!!
    We've finally got a Shulk in top 8!!

  • @super117knight
    @super117knight Před 4 lety +1

    seeing the crowd and players while playing would make it much better

  • @SkrymNV
    @SkrymNV Před 3 lety

    These are the best ZZS and Shulk mains imo. Such intense play by both of them.

  • @jeffsiemens4485
    @jeffsiemens4485 Před 4 lety +1

    Solid match. Kome controlled this match from start to finish. Shulk is indeed powerful and kome’s use of the Monado arts is spectacular.

  • @modadv.s8992
    @modadv.s8992 Před 4 lety +3

    22:25 Off stage reversal. Jump art switch out of shield art to reverse up-b. So smart. Best end screen I have seen yet.

  • @colonelchester
    @colonelchester Před 4 lety +31

    nice stuff to kome but i really want to break down just how good shield art is in the mu.
    shulk can shield art during zss f smash, up smash, downsmash (to prevent followups after the stun), down b bury, side b, up b, neutral b, nair > down b kick, jab, fair, situationally dair, jab, and up air chains. all of zss kill options are either multihit or setups, meaning shulk can shield art everything. marss can only kill kome when shield art is regening!

    • @DarkenedHalo115
      @DarkenedHalo115 Před 4 lety +1

      Colonel Chester just FYI, shulk can only charge arts during hitstun. So during the stun from paralyzer and burys from flip kick he can’t immediately shield art.

    • @nuclearcoconut3664
      @nuclearcoconut3664 Před 4 lety +10

      @@DarkenedHalo115 Actually, he can while paralyzed. Just not while buried

    • @colonelchester
      @colonelchester Před 4 lety +1

      NuclearCoconut ok thx for info. he can still shield art the boost kick out of bury tho

    • @Swordmaster7th
      @Swordmaster7th Před 4 lety

      He switched to shield so fast at times when buster or smash was active to stop the buff the other player had over him. That's part of Shulk that needs mastering to use him properly

  • @Kamer.Sounds
    @Kamer.Sounds Před 4 lety +10

    Shulk at his best. So many movement and play style switch ups!

  • @blitzbluex5154
    @blitzbluex5154 Před 4 lety

    Was there any monado arts dial storge used in this video? I watched it but kinda can't tell, new to Shulk

  • @E-chan315
    @E-chan315 Před 4 lety +7

    修羅武羅TシャツとPopoffのガッツポーズ格好よすぎるだろ…

  • @McNasty_0
    @McNasty_0 Před 4 lety +24

    Thank you to the one commentator for saying "art" instead of "mode".

  • @atha5469
    @atha5469 Před 4 lety +76

    Bro, put yourself in the place of Marss. Kome's defense was absolutely impossible to break

    • @billyherrington659
      @billyherrington659 Před 4 lety +16

      Ikr. As a marss fan, it was frustrating to watch but I can't imagine what he was going through himself

    • @spaghetti8061
      @spaghetti8061 Před 4 lety +3

      He was figuring him out, honestly think if he had more MU experience he could've taken the set.

    • @Revoltine
      @Revoltine Před 4 lety +9

      @@spaghetti8061 Funny you say that when Marss has historically beaten Kome before. This was a big win for Kome due to his losing streak.

    • @theblockyinkling3889
      @theblockyinkling3889 Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah it just goes to show how annoying shulk is

    • @Rosarioxg
      @Rosarioxg Před 4 lety +5

      @@Revoltine I'm fairly confident that these two have never played until this set. This is the first time Kome has come to the US since sm4sh

  • @yossachannel600
    @yossachannel600 Před 4 lety +4

    最後のプレイうますぎる…

  • @Masonomace
    @Masonomace Před 4 lety +3

    Awesome set, Kome.

  • @Raza9428
    @Raza9428 Před 4 lety

    How do you cancel a manodo art?

  • @105BONVL
    @105BONVL Před 4 lety +3

    Incredible

  • @grodio9672
    @grodio9672 Před 4 lety +9

    This is the best shulk I’ve ever seen

  • @Swordmaster7th
    @Swordmaster7th Před 4 lety +2

    Finally someone taking the Monado Arts to the max. This guy's good.

  • @thehypist2587
    @thehypist2587 Před 4 lety +2

    Feels good being a Monado Boy. :)

  • @mitch_universe4058
    @mitch_universe4058 Před 3 lety +3

    This is why I play Shulk, you know, alongside him being in the best RPG ever made

  • @Vinnay46
    @Vinnay46 Před 4 lety +26

    They had to cover Marss' face with the thumbnail for the next video. Poor guy.

  • @Tobtakular
    @Tobtakular Před 4 lety +2

    This shit is why I’ve been playing shulk since day 1. I aspire to achieve his immense potential like this fella

  • @anibalvaldebenito8810
    @anibalvaldebenito8810 Před 4 lety +9

    I was actually thinking about shulk's upair not being that useless before the match. Now I have it clear

  • @user-cs6sl5wh8v
    @user-cs6sl5wh8v Před 4 lety +5

    コメさんやってくれましたね
    次のウメブラも結果残せればpgr30位以内狙えるぞ

  • @julietv4275
    @julietv4275 Před 4 lety +9

    Really impressive shulk player.

  • @patricksciortino3643
    @patricksciortino3643 Před 4 lety +2

    That last kill is insane

  • @leinad0504
    @leinad0504 Před 4 lety +3

    I feel like a good Shulk is a good Joker counter. You can play so patiently and defensively which is how you wanna play Joker when he's in Arsene.

  • @Thecurseofsanity
    @Thecurseofsanity Před 4 lety +76

    Man a good Shulk looks frustrating to fight against. His aerials are so big dude! How do you get in on that!?

    • @marche800
      @marche800 Před 4 lety +8

      You don't really. A lot of them as safe when space properly and even if you do get in he may just cheese any follow ups with shield and immediately reverse the situation.

    • @ivanaviNiebla
      @ivanaviNiebla Před 4 lety +13

      He is slow on startup and on landing lag, just bait and punish and keep the pressure. Not as easy, but neither as hard as it seems.

    • @biohazard911
      @biohazard911 Před 4 lety +2

      That’s what she said !!!

    • @chrishbeatboxing2291
      @chrishbeatboxing2291 Před 4 lety +6

      @@ivanaviNiebla shulk's aerials do have slow startup, but they autocancel on the ground if used properly, so they are hard to punish

    • @ivanaviNiebla
      @ivanaviNiebla Před 4 lety +2

      @@chrishbeatboxing2291 But not all of them autocancel, and between the last active frame and the autocancel window there's around half a second to punish every aereal

  • @GuardianAngelEatos
    @GuardianAngelEatos Před 4 lety +1

    Kome actually backslashed a couple times immediately after losing a stock like I do! I thought I was the only one!

  • @ImAviex
    @ImAviex Před 4 lety

    What happened at 16:15 was the Shulk player footstooled ZZS's up air

  • @bringbringish
    @bringbringish Před 4 lety +2

    Marss controller setup anyone?

  • @user-cn3qv2hw1j
    @user-cn3qv2hw1j Před 4 lety +4

    ジャンプ読みがうますぎて実況の「Kome!」が「孔明!」に聞こえてくる

  • @mugiwara7116
    @mugiwara7116 Před 3 lety

    4:32 that was clean how Marss immediately adapted to the Shield Monado

  • @user-rx3cz2by9j
    @user-rx3cz2by9j Před 4 lety +4

    最後の後ろのギャラリーで今年1番笑った

  • @StephenSiu
    @StephenSiu Před 4 lety +2

    Damn it's crazy seeing Mars play kinda scared for the first time

  • @noahtawil8793
    @noahtawil8793 Před 3 lety +1

    11:32 how did kome switch to sheild art, then switch to jump art, then grab, all in half a second

  • @JiosLife
    @JiosLife Před 4 lety +17

    *Kome is wayyyy better than Nicko don’t ever disrespect Shulk Mars ever again*

    • @tymartin2519
      @tymartin2519 Před 4 lety +1

      kome and nicko have very similar results this season, if kome is better it isn't by much.

    • @tymartin2519
      @tymartin2519 Před 4 lety +3

      Update: kome got second at Evo japan, the second largest smash tournament ever so yeah kome definitely best shulk now

  • @lordradiance2530
    @lordradiance2530 Před 4 lety +2

    It feels so nice for ZSS to finally be on the defense and be pressured for a change

  • @obamaorb7426
    @obamaorb7426 Před 4 lety +6

    They aren't called monados....

  • @jorgegonzalezvaras6301
    @jorgegonzalezvaras6301 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing shulk. Very hard matchup for zss

  • @aru5637
    @aru5637 Před 4 lety +7

    コメシュルク!!

  • @sebserrano8717
    @sebserrano8717 Před 4 lety +4

    SHULK GANG WYA

  • @lmao2302
    @lmao2302 Před 4 lety +3

    Shulk is so hilarious to watch.

  • @froakie1404
    @froakie1404 Před 4 lety +2

    I always knew Shulk was broken. Nobody believed me lol. But regardless, what a set.

  • @WhiteLavender425
    @WhiteLavender425 Před 4 lety +1

    Mvd chillin in the back

  • @seansolo3583
    @seansolo3583 Před 4 lety +1

    Kome’s palutena looking clean

  • @enkelegy
    @enkelegy Před 4 lety

    I don’t really see the point at using Buster at 0-30%. I’ve just started the video and maybe the Shulk main doesn’t do this all the time, but can I have an explanation why Kome did this?

    • @VesDegree
      @VesDegree Před 4 lety +6

      With buster you gain access to true combos like nair-ftilt or dthrow-ftilt

    • @BrandonBarry201676
      @BrandonBarry201676 Před 4 lety +9

      Buster art (purple) does more damage and less knock back 0%- 30% would be some of the best times to use it. Smash art (red) does more knock back and is best at higher %'s. If a shulk player turns on smash at a low % they may be trying to edgeguard better.

    • @DavidLopeziNumbers
      @DavidLopeziNumbers Před 4 lety +1

      Buster will deal more damage with less knockback. So typically it IS used at lower percents since you arent going to typically get a KO yet anyways. I think you may be mixing up BUSTER and SMASH manado.

    • @Revoltine
      @Revoltine Před 4 lety +2

      He did it because he's doing two things:
      1) Maintaining advantage - Buster Art is extremely oppressive when you win neutral cuz the damage boost gives you higher shield damage and better hitstun when shielded, making Shulk's moves safer. When an opponent is at a disadvantage, they usually become more defensive and shielding is one of your defensive options (obv) but when Shulk is in Buster, shielding can become a losing bet for you when fighting against him.
      2) Comboability - As mentioned by the others, the lesser knockback is a desirable trait for extending combos. Heck, one of Shulk's reliable kill confirm combo is done while in Buster Art. Look for Butterfly Step. That thing takes stocks even from heavyweights...

    • @Revoltine
      @Revoltine Před 4 lety +3

      I forgot to mention another thing... Kome's playstyle with Shulk revolves around being in a Monado Art 90% of the time, as opposed to Nicko who does more work as vanilla Shulk.
      Kome is usually in Speed, Buster, or Jump when dealing with neutral or at an advantage. Since Marss rarely took to the air during this set, Kome opted to cycle between Speed and Buster during neutral and advantage while going Shield when necessary, rarely ever using Jump unless Marss is high up after being combo'd, off the platform during an edgeguard situation, or Kome himself is recovering after being off the platform himself.

  • @job6986
    @job6986 Před 4 lety

    画面右端の一際目立つ白服の人はR2Gロックマン?

  • @user-gm4ql6br8b
    @user-gm4ql6br8b Před 4 lety +2

    13:10 天才

  • @samcase8088
    @samcase8088 Před 4 lety

    That Team Galactic music tho

  • @KevSB07
    @KevSB07 Před 4 lety

    Commentary was alright but it was really lacking in hype. i mean, things were happening on screen that had no reaction from the commentators, when those are some of the most entertaining moments of commentary.

  • @sebaschan-uwu
    @sebaschan-uwu Před 2 lety

    4:18 thats the first time I've ever seen a backslash hit someone's back in a tournament and it was in buster too

  • @mr.sandman1177
    @mr.sandman1177 Před 4 lety

    Can someone explain why I never see shulk's using counter?

    • @tymartin2519
      @tymartin2519 Před 4 lety

      It's really bad

    • @mr.sandman1177
      @mr.sandman1177 Před 4 lety

      @@tymartin2519 how is it bad? Seemed op to me.

    • @dondaketype8811
      @dondaketype8811 Před 2 lety

      @@mr.sandman1177 The knockback and damage are nuts, but with how slow it is compared to other counters even with the slow down area, it's not very consistent. Also in Ultimate, it lost it's ability to ignore shields making it worse against projectiles.

  • @soyboy1944
    @soyboy1944 Před 4 lety

    Some might say he plays so passive its boring to watch. I think he is playing him just right and that is why he is performing so well. I still find it fun but can understand if some think its boring

  • @Lukiro
    @Lukiro Před 4 lety

    13:07 GOOD LORD

  • @nonnolaser122
    @nonnolaser122 Před 4 lety +5

    Come on, the commentators have been a little too much patriotic now, when Marss did a not that much surprising kick flip kill on last match they were screaming and all, when Kome on last match and last stock switched between 3 arts to avoid the kick flip and killed Marss using a b reversed jump mode up b they were only like:”Yeah good kill” 🤦‍♂️

  • @crayhack
    @crayhack Před 4 lety +1

    Damn kome...

  • @memento-9971
    @memento-9971 Před 4 lety +6

    Damn this was disgusting his defense was good. Amazing job from Kome and props to my not Marss for fighting until to the end.

  • @jarrav8186
    @jarrav8186 Před 4 lety +7

    Bruuhh these commentators are soooo biased for marss, they pop off when he hits a single flipkick but Kome hits a crazy mixup, or almost that nair to dair and they just go "yea ok"

    • @linhtang122
      @linhtang122 Před 4 lety +1

      J Veennema ikr? One on the moments that stuck out to me was when Kome did an amazing art switch at 11:30 but commentators didn’t react to it at all. You could even hear the audience in the background reacting

    • @j.prt.979
      @j.prt.979 Před 4 lety +1

      Linh Tang I feel like they didn’t react to it because it was so fast and so good that it’s hard to even recognize. Fair enough though, commentators at big tournaments should be held to high standards.

  • @linh6538
    @linh6538 Před 4 lety +5

    Great set! I wonder what Kome says before every game. He beats his chest and mumbles something

  • @kaeeeki
    @kaeeeki Před 2 lety +1

    22:29 コメさんのガッツポーズ

  • @m0nkeydluffy167
    @m0nkeydluffy167 Před 3 lety +2

    Best shulk in the world vs Best ZSS in the world

  • @u.b-viruz7027
    @u.b-viruz7027 Před 4 lety +3

    Shulk is toptier

  • @parko5614
    @parko5614 Před 3 lety +1

    When you play zss you just feel like you have to outplay your opponent

  • @arickwest9180
    @arickwest9180 Před 3 lety

    MVD watching this set like🥱

  • @ys9782
    @ys9782 Před 4 lety +8

    Its just me or Kome uses Dial Storage sometimes?

    • @BrandonBarry201676
      @BrandonBarry201676 Před 4 lety +2

      I think I saw some

    • @rospoho
      @rospoho Před 4 lety +1

      What's that? I want to learn Shulk

    • @BrandonBarry201676
      @BrandonBarry201676 Před 4 lety +6

      @@rospoho dial storage is a advanced technique that allows shulk to pull up his dial faster and change arts faster

    • @rospoho
      @rospoho Před 4 lety +2

      @@BrandonBarry201676 thanks! Gonna study this stuff

    • @ys9782
      @ys9782 Před 4 lety +8

      @@rospoho dial Storage is a technique that lets Shulk save some Dial's Frames canceling it, making faster his Monado's Dial, letting him to choose Monado's faster, making that he cans combo between MAs, cancel lag of aerials and air dodge, etc.
      BSD has a vid explaining it so well, its a hard tech but its worth

  • @corgitoergosum8400
    @corgitoergosum8400 Před 3 lety

    rushdown/holding forward doesn't work against shulk...you have to be surgical with your play as ZSS. aim to keep him in disadvantage when he's in shield art, don't let him nair his way out. juggling him is good. and if he uses shield art offstage he's usually not in that great of a position. he was weak start up frames... we can call out where he's supposed to be jumping and win air to air a lot of the time, he can't really play a reactive game. buster mode should always be a liability for shulk in this mu, it makes our grabs on him super effective. trading stocks with stock leads against shulk is optimal
    it's a hard mu for zss but marss struggled from a bit of matchup inexperience here. speed, jump and smash art all get camped out, no questions asked.

  • @keilchip
    @keilchip Před 4 lety +5

    Marss did good, this matchup is hard for ZSS but once he figures it out hes gonna slay

    • @lguy8476
      @lguy8476 Před 4 lety +3

      You'll still be forced to play Shulk's game at times with his range, being able to shield art out of pretty much all of ZSS's set ups and Smash attacks, etc. Monado is extremely difficult to camp out since it lasts a very long time and messing up/them getting a read once is no bueno. Smart art is extremely strong and up B oos can KO at like 80 mid stage.
      His ledge trap and edge guard game are also amazing which is one of the last places you'll want to be vs him.
      He's one of the most oppressive characters if you've watched Nicko, Uncivil, etc play him and have played vs him imo

    • @matthewmorrison3745
      @matthewmorrison3745 Před 4 lety

      Idk, Mars took one game and most of those matches kome had 2 stocks left lol

  • @milkshakeofpower
    @milkshakeofpower Před 4 lety +1

    I knew as soon as I walked into this vid that kome was gonna win, he had that determination in his eyes. I look into mars eyes he kinda lookin tired, got any sleep man?

  • @Ryan_Austin
    @Ryan_Austin Před 4 lety +3

    2:23 / 11:31 / 13:43 / 21:12 / How does he do that

    • @taistealai5523
      @taistealai5523 Před 4 lety +1

      shulk tech, you could change arts during hitstun in sm4sh but due to him not having the wheel it was basically pointless

  • @Boomtendo4tw
    @Boomtendo4tw Před 4 lety +2

    Marss hasn’t seemed the same for a while

    • @_1More_
      @_1More_ Před 4 lety +2

      Man I agree he struggled the last tournament aswell idk what's up

  • @taba28
    @taba28 Před 4 lety

    コメ様すこすこ部隊微笑ましい

  • @rkate2833
    @rkate2833 Před 4 lety +3

    定時退社から来た

  • @Patrick-ho3st
    @Patrick-ho3st Před 4 lety

    The problem is that Shulk requires crazy optimization and dedication to be top tier. Why would someone with the time and talent not just choose Joker and cheese out the win? Is he potentially the best in the game? For sure. However, unless he counters MKLeo's Joker, other top players won't invest the time, and anyone below top level play won't be able to utilize him to his 'potential'.

  • @69Bloodstreaks
    @69Bloodstreaks Před 4 lety +1

    20:38
    "Nice kick flip"
    Yo when did this become Tony Hawk pro skater?

  • @therealcluzio
    @therealcluzio Před 3 lety

    anyone here from alpharad

  • @fakename6498
    @fakename6498 Před 4 lety +1

    Take a shot every time they say:
    ___ is online
    Tech chase scenario
    Will not quite connect

  • @davidtalero2874
    @davidtalero2874 Před 4 lety

    6:28-6:35 did I see my actual clone in the background?

  • @vincentcarbaugh5110
    @vincentcarbaugh5110 Před 4 lety

    I could be wrong but I don't think Kome used Air Slash OOS in this entire set. I know most Shulks usually do.

    • @maxliu3041
      @maxliu3041 Před 4 lety

      7:16 :)

    • @Reselfexplanatory
      @Reselfexplanatory Před 4 lety

      That's why Marss avoids the situation

    • @Carlisho
      @Carlisho Před 4 lety

      Bruh you need to check your eyes then

    • @Resener1
      @Resener1 Před 4 lety

      Max Liu nearly everything zss has is safe on shield, so there’s not much opportunity for using air slash outta shield

    • @matthewmorrison3745
      @matthewmorrison3745 Před 4 lety

      @@Resener1 Bro dtilt is most definitely punishable, and he did it twice lol

  • @genesis1986
    @genesis1986 Před 4 lety

    11:30 BRUH