Delboy's Garage, Time to SLAM the 883 Iron.
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2011
- First of the jobs to make the Iron "a bit more me", replaced the OE factory seat with a LePera 'Bare Bones' seat, and swaped out the rediculous 13" rear shocks for some 'Progressive Suspension' 11's ...took a total of 4 inches out of the ride height, i think we can say we.Slaaamed it baby..!
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Hi buddy,that question made me smile and proves,once again,that those of us who know about mechanical things must never take it for granted that others do,so to answer your question,NO,the rear suspension units are modular & completely safe to remove just using a socket wrench.When you take the weight of the bike off them,they extend to a point then stop against a solid steel lock peg,they can only be dismantled using specialist tools & knowledge,so you can take them off in confidence,Cheers Del
Hello mate, thank for your kind comments, the Harley has split indicators, they double and tail and brake lights as well as indicators....the factory use the same setup on the Nightster too.. thanks for watching. take care, Del.
Hi there, as far as I can make out the 13" shocks only come on the Euro market 883 Irons- it seems the US bikes have 11" shocks as standard, which goes to show it must be some kind of Euro legislation thing - thanks for watching, take care, Del
i liked the speed of this video. 1:talk, 2:do, 3:done
Hi mate, thanks for your kind comments, the Gloves are by "Richa" and i think the model is just called "Cruiser gloves", cost about £50, and no, they are really a summer glove, not much lining and short to the wrist... (you can use Rigger gloves form a tools shop, and get bige ones so you can wear wolly gloves under them in winter.. then you get the light tan look...
Hi there, thank you for your kind comments, the gloves are "Richa Custom Gloves" and cost (here in the UK £49, about $79 US), they are armoured in the knuckles for protection.. im sure you can buy them on the internet, just google the name... take care.. Del.
Suggestion, before and after side by side.
This video was truly amazing, everything you said about the contour and shape of the bike leading to and then including the seat... 100% spot on, and then the distance of travel for the rear fender.... I swear it kills me everytime I look at my stock bike.
This was an amazing video.
As someone that has always loved the shape and the agility of the sportster, and it's ability to change into whatever you want it to be... This video was a great help! Thank you!
Hey there matey.... we bought the Progressive Suspension shocks for both bikes from the guys at "Riders of Bridgwater", simply a Harley dealer with the right attitude, did it all over the telephone, paid with my card, and they sent them next day delivery... they even offered to swap them for longer ones if i fitted them and found them too low.. also the price was veyr competative, i seem to remember they cost about £250 a set... not bad for the amazing improvement they gave, good luck, Del.
Hi there Yannou....yes you can fit the 03-06 seat like mine to any sportster, the only difference is that you may not have the hole to locate the rear bolt...if not, then you can just drill a hole on your fender where the bolt goes through, (plus make a little slot just like the existing hole the factory put further back)... that will work fine and give a lovely ride plus lower position too as the foam is really top quality....i hope that helps, good luck and let me know if you ghet stuck. Del.
They were a pair of the old Screaming Eagle slip ons from the late 90's, but today you can get the same sound from V&H short shots...and no, no remap needed if you just fit the mufflers only and leave the air filter alone..but as i had the stage one filter i had to buy a SE Pro tuner, and got the dealer to set it up... .good luck, Del.
Hi Matt, glad you mentioned this because the 11" shocks are way too low for any form of pillion rider, they are strictly solo only, I am 13 stone & even on the highest setting I managed to bottom them on pot holes, if I were you carrying a pillion will mean at 11.5" & try & get away with max pre-load or even the 12's (which is still an inch lower as they are 13" standard)..good luck, chap, hope that helps, Del
hi Mark....thats a common concern, but under the fork gator there is a regular dust cap like all other forks, so feel free to take them off as they are just for decoration.
Hi Dave, no the ride is not that bad..but all things can be inproved..and the shocks i used on the Iron i had were "Progressive Suspension" model "412" and they were a lot better... the damping is much better quality, more supple and makes the bike steadier in bends... also once the bike is lowered the suspension has less travel up and down, (only an inch), so can become harsher and more rigid...the PS shocks give you back the smoothness over a shorter travel range and are well worth the money.
Hi mate, no i have never cut up the stock Sportster air filter cover but i have made one from scratch using sheet metal...there is a video series on the build in my channel library..
This from DALE. AKA. Crash 68. Keep up the good work. Man. You are an awesome. Teacher you have helped twice now. Don't ever stop Mate good fortune is coming your way ! THANKS 🖖
Thanks Dale, you are very kind, and we intend to keep it all right where it is... take care.. Del.
Hi Dale, it certainly should do buddy, as long as the back fender doesn't have the ECU mounted on the fender then you should be ok....the only thing stopping it would be if the fender had the huge hole under the seat like on the 883L, but i think all the bobbed fender bikes have it mounted elsewhere, so the Nightster, 48 and iron models should all be fine for the 006....Just take off your factory seat and check for the forward screw hole, if its there, then your good to go buddy, take care, Del.
Thnaks buddy, you are very kind, its good to make a bike the weay you want it... and if you buiy an Iron, you wont regret it, they are an excellent base bike to make yours... ride safe mate.. Del.
Hi mate, i sold the bike last year, but the present owner loves them, and also we have them on Penny's Harley too, they are even better once that have settled in a few hundred miles...
Hi buddy, sorry to not be clear, its easy to get them confused.. right;- first look at the bottom mount on the shock.."it sits to one side"..orientate it so the mount sits to the outside (farthest away from the bike), fit the insert through the bottom loop from the outside, then shove the bolt through it, and the thick spacer goes inside (between the shock and the swing arm)... have a go at that, and if you are still confused, ill do you a quick video when i can. hope that helps, Del.
You can fit your hand in there if you jack the bike up so the back wheel drops down a bit....if its still to close, just drop the lower mounts off and let the swing arm lower enough to allow access... ride safe buddy.. Del.
@wildkatze69 Hi mate, thanks for your kind comments, and yeah, dont go buying the 48 seat, all Harley seats have inferior foam compared to the LePera memory foam, also they use thick genuine Naughide to cover them which is rubbery and elastic..this, with the better foam, yields more and stays comfy for a lot longer distance on long rides..also the steel base is ten tiems better quality than the factory items... thanks again buddy, and ride safe. Del.
@Wi66pro Hi Paul. The shocks i used are the 412 with heavy duty spring, they sit "off the bike at 11" centre to centre, and now they have settled they sit with the bike upright and no load, 10,3/4" and never bottom, with me on the bike they ride at 10" and i use them on the top preload setting (and im 13 stone) . if i twist them down to lowest preload them bump down hard on them the frame hits the belt guard, but there is a warning and advice to bend the guard down, in the box they come with..
@mrrshotshot It's 13" from factory, and 11" with the new shocks. It depends if your passenger is very light, then maybe, but it would more than likely bottom out, the shocks come with a warning to "bend the belt guard a bit if it touches", s it is pretty much on the limit. HOWEVER. if you talk to Progressive Suspension direct, ask them if they offer a model with a stiffer spring, mine are the model "412", im sure they will do a beefier one that offeres the same low ride height, good luck buddy.
Hi mate, i went for the11" because it looked best, and didnt ground or scrape anywhere... i did lift the forks out of the clamps by half inch, and it sat perfectly flat with the frame rails totally parallel to the ground.. they are back end high form the factory... i did run them on highest preload, and never took a pillion... so if you are going to, or are heavier then me (180lb's) then use the 11.5.... hope that helps buddy.... and the plate was 7x5" cheers, Del
I'm glad I'm not the only one out there who can't stand the denim paint! Lol. I have the same bike in the blue pearl color and with the black and tiny accents of chrome it really sets the bike off! Keep up the great videos del!
I didn't paint it in the end, it left the garage still in matt black..
@BenalexH Hi Ben, thanks for watching buddy, like i said in the video, i got the seat second hand and almost unused from a private eBay seller, but it is a standard 'LePera Bare Bones', and can be bought from all manner of suppliers, from Halrey dealers, to the internet, and they cost from about £200 downwards. if you have a surf round eBay im sure you will find many to choose from. thanks again, take care. Del.
@AntiheroBreakz Hi there, yes i did use that seat, and there are some very subtle differences to each bike that mean the mount points need to be a bit longer or shorter ect... so go with the dealers advice, the seat will be the same style, and if the seat is wrong, and he advised it, then its on him to get you the right one... as long as its a Bare Bones seat, then it will look exactly the same once it is fitted.. the code numbers just pertain to the mounting holes..good luck and ride safe. Del.
Thanks for watching mate, i appreciate your kind comment... take care, Del.
Hi Byron.. yeah, got to be a bit daft now and again aye?.. thanks for watching mate.. !
Hi mate, your most welcome, thanks for watching and im glad it worked for you... cheers, Del.
Hey this guy delboys's is an excellent Harley pro !! He showed me exactly how to install the rear lowering blocks on my sportster xl883l THANKS. Keep up the awesome instructions 👍
Nice one, buddy, you won;t belive how they transform the ride, they aren't just low, they are better quality too, let me know how you get on ... good luck, Del
@Chipitin4birdie yeah chip, i was going to make a whole big thing about that, the 006 is indeed designed for the sportster up to 06, and the only difference is that the seat i have is 5" shorter and needs a hole at the front, the regular sportsters dont seem to have this hole, so LePera make a longer seat to fit the only available bolt hole that is further back....HOWEVER... the Iron, Nighters and 48 all have the "Bobbed" rear fender, and this fender has the hole at the front, so the 006 fits
@Chipitin4birdie Hi there Chip, its a pleasure mate, they are;- "Progressive Suspension Model 412" ,they are 11 inches long, and can be bought all over Europe from pretty much any Harley Davidson dealership. I dont know what they will cost you in Germany, but here in the UK i paid £270.00 sterling, and that included postage.
Good luck with the swap[, its dead easy, and will transform your ride...( they are very low, and you will probably need them on the top or next preload setting)
Now chop that back fender! Looks real good man.
both 11 and 11.5 feel the same as you can adjust out that small amount of difference wit hte preload...the springs are softer and more forgiving, and the damping it better....plus they inprove with miles once the sticksion settles down..
Absolutely gorgeous machine! I love every detail about it. Good call on the seat and handle bar replacement.
Thanks Danny, you are very kind... the Iron 883 is a ready made bar hopper right from the factory, only needs a few tweeks and its perfect... thanks for watching... take care, Del.
It's a good thing that you are going with Progressive shocks. You will save your spine and your arse. That new seat is gorgeous on your Sporty. Good on you, as usual.
Nice video. Thanks for posting. I'm just getting into Harelys and it's interesting to see everyone in the UK and AU that's riding the same bikes and how they setup their rides.
Hi Paul. The seat WAS an L-006, and it fit the bike perfectly, the item was labeled as such on the base. maybe they are universal in fittings, but just a different shape on top.. thanks for watching mate, take care, Del.
@nordtiger Hi there, Yes i did, checked it and it was fine. The needs to be quite tight compared to a chain, only 3/4 to 1 inch of deflection at the sight hole on the bottom belt guard, many riders run them too loose, so check you have not backed it off too much, the belt actually loosens off as you lower it below the horizontal, if your belt is old, then make sure you check it every month as they stretch a lot with age.
Its a trade off mate, lower shocks make a lower bike, you will scuff the pipes if you lean into a right hander a bit too low, and if yer a heavy boy you'll bottom out the springs on a fast pot hole too....but like i said, its a trade off for the slammed look.. i got on just fine by modifying my riding a bit and all was well... good luck chap.. all the best Del.
Hi mate, without wishing to sound personal, it all depends on how heavy your pillion is, if its your 5 year old kid, then fit an 11", but if its a full weight adult, and you are a big chap, then you will need at least an 11.5, maybe even a 12,,,,which defeates the object....if it was me, i would have some cool slammed out 11" ones like mine, then just fit the factory shocks back on to take the pillion out for the day, after all, it only takes ten minutes...hope that helps...good luck, Del.
Hi Randy.. The PS 412's are a little soft but you are about 30lbs lighter than me, and whilst i had them set on the hardest setting...they never bottomed out once.... and you may just need to bend the front edge of the belt guard down a bit just so it doesnt hit...otherthan that they are fine... much as they are the same height now....the damping technology and quality of movement is way better...they will make the bike more supple and smooth to ride...good luck buddy... Del.
Great quality video. This is what CZcams should be like. Great explanations. Love the slam and the seat. Was gonna put a 48 seat on my Iron but now considering lepera.
Del top vid and the way Iron seat is mounted and bolted down it gave me the idea of a finding the bolt set up and found one to use on the 900 cheers
Super nice. Great job on the bike! Seriously.
Beautiful looking ride, and sounding :)
Hi mate, it's no problem at all, just swop the gasket from your factory cover to use on the custom one, grease it up so it slips into place and you're good to go! Good luck with it, Del
NOT here in the UK mate, they come 13" from the dealership, and nobody changed them, they are sent over that way for UK spec..only the '883 Low' comes with 11" shocks here. !
Ciao Luka, im a bit taller than that, im 1.83, so you may need to check if those bars work for you... thanks for watching.. buongiorno, Del.
@kennroxx Its really comfortable mate, its a premium quality seat, the base is made from 14 guage steel, covered under with soft carpet to protect it, and the 'fit' is perfect, ... but more than anything, it has a really odd foam, its squidy like memory foam, firm and supportive yet never is it harsh, also the Naughide stretches and moulds to your shape so there is no resistance in it, all round its ten times better than any Harley seat ive ever sat on... go for it ken, you wont regret it.
Cheers, looks better, with changes,nice 🏍 bike!
I have always liked that seat... Now that I see it on a bike, I'm in love with it now! Great video!
Hi Robert, 230 is about 16 stone, so i would say that the 11" shocks would need to be pretty heavily sprung, there is only 1.5inches of travel with 11" shocks, so not much soakup, and if you check how much yours currently drop when you sit on it, you'll be able to see if you have any left for bumps....if it drops tow inches now, then you'll bottom our all the time...if you were a light lad like say 150lb's then you would be fine, but its just how much drop you need at your weight..
perfect video. answered my questions. thanks from Turkiye mate. i think i am gonna go for an iron as well. what i need on a stock iron are a new seat, 11" shocks and louder pipes. i'd rather v&h shortshots.
Hi Dell. I love what you did to your bike.
I do have a question if that's okay
With your progressive shocks at 11inch
Would you ride 2up being that low and would it be comfy??
I've been thinking about getting the 430 series 11.5 ... Or 11 all depends on riding two up
Thank you for your time
Jackson
Hi buddy, Welcome to the world of lowered bikes, the stand is easily dealt with, you can either shorten it, of buy a factory stand for an 883L, (which will be shorter) then with regard to anything grounding out, just observe the scuff it makes, and dress that part of the steel back with a grinder, dont take off so much steel that you make it weak, but enough to buy yourself some clearance...oh, and maybe corner a bit slower too.lol.. All Harleys ground, its just a case of modification..
My shovel dropped about 2” in the rear when I put a round swing arm on it. It looked very cool, but I couldn’t get a jack under it (like yours) and it dragged hard parts everywhere. I lifted it back up with new shocks after a week. Hope your ride goes better.
What a great vid! Thanks Del! Plain english, open information. helped a lot indeed. I'm looking at picking one of these bad boys up, and wanted to know how easy it is to mod them. Love it.
Keep posting mate!
Thanks for another great Video Del. Where did you buy the progressives from please mate?
Thanks John, i appreciate you watching.. ride safe. Del.
Nice! What a huge difference that makes,takes it from dorky to cool with just a couple changes.II have had 12 Sportsters and the first thing I always do is 11 inch shocks and a tiny seat.
Thanks buddy, you are very kind you are right, there are way too many models.. do they no longer make the model i had?.. that is still a current model i think..!
I....WANT...THIS....BIKE....just making that clear...I hope to buy this while I'm in the US Navy, leaving for rtc april 2013, and ever since i saw this beauty I've been making a list of all I'm doing to it. Great video man.
Amazing seat. No staples! The leather held with rivets. Nice buy bro.
Hi Andrew, thanks mate, you are very kind, i think its important to share the things we know, what ever they may be, with our fellow bikers if they can in any way benefit from it, that way we expand the brotherhood of biking keep, each other safe, and save a few shekels at the same time.. thanks again for your kind comments mate.. ride safe. Del.
Thanks mate, and congratulations on getting one yourself... they are a great bike with so much scope to create a unique custom bike all of your own... good luck with it... Del.
Those shocks are really only for solo riding or maybe a very light pillion like a kid or something....but two adults would cause it to bottom out....go for the higher ones and inch taller and they will work fine.. Del.
Well done buddy, glad you got stuck in there yourself...makes your bike hobby all the richer.. With the PS shocks, they may still cause the betl guard to touch the frame spar at the front...if so, just bend the guard down a little bit,. only needs about 1/4 inch... good luck and thanks for watching, take care, Del.
Hi mate, congratulations on your bike, they are a great blank canvas to make whatever you want from...not too expensive to & like all Sportster, great fun to ride...the heat shields are a Harley item called 'Buck Shot Shields' and they were just painted with a black heat-proof paint... hope that helps, good luck with your bike, enjoy every mile, Del
I appreciate your videos, you know what your talking about, back it up with why and not just how!
Cheers,
Andrew
Thank you so much for such a, i can almost say professional and very productive video
Just enjoyed watching it
And will definitely now sort out my 883
That is so nice of you, glad you liked it, really appreciate your feedback.
Sorry wasnt clear there mate. "lifting the forks".... can also be described as "dropping the clamps".... just loosten off the top and bottom pinch bolts on one side of the fork clamp (tripple tree, top an bottom yoke, what ever you call it)...and allow the fork tube to rise out of the top clamp about half inch....then do the same the other side, clamp it all up tight and hey prestow you have lowered the front, and the little bit of fork poking out the top hardly notices...and its free too..Del.
Thanks buddy, it was an amazing bike, I had to sell it last year to keep the bills paid, but that's life sometimes, I'll have another one when the boat comes in ... but for now I have a very cheeky Hayabusa to play with! Take care, my friend, and good luck with your Navy career, you sound to have the right attitude for a life in the military, cheers Del
@durhamevans Hi mate. NO, is the simple answer... you have to take the weight off the back wheel so you can take the old shocks off, even if you go one at a time, they are different lengths so you'll still need to get the back wheel up off the ground... If you dont have a lift, then its still quite easy to get the back up.. Just poke a trolley jack under the right hand side just by the swing arm pivot, and jack it against its side stand, that will lift the back off and be quite stable too..
Excellent video. Very down to earth, educational, and easy to understand. I agree fully with that progressive suspension. I got the 11" heavy duty ones for my Nightster. Mainly for lowering reasons, since on the Nightster, Harley also put 13" shocks, which just looks soooo wrong in every possible way. The difference from the stock shocks is night & day. SO much smoother & the handling is ALOT better. Against, great video. Cheers from Sweden.
Awesome videos all around man, I think those long shocks are common across the pond, my shocks came just under 11" eye to eye stock from HD here in the US. Keep up the great work, I look forward to more videos.
Great stuff mate! Hope ypu make more content very easy to watch and understand
Awesome video. Shocks look nice. Did you play with the adjustment on the springs or just install them as they where?
Also having it that Lowe does it effect ride comfort or any knocking on bumpy roads?
Hi mate, Progressive Suspension is recommended by Harley... and Riders of Bridgwater are a Harley main agent, so they are a product, much like Ohlins, that whilst aftermarket are actually better than the factory rubbish... they are very good quality...
Hi Jackson - firstly congratulations on the very finest of bike, I know you're gonna love it! You may indeed find that slamming the back end a full 2" could lead to some rubbing or at least bottoming out on bumps if carrying 2 full sized adults - it's just a case of trial and error, but provided you are about 180lbs (13stone) & your pillion no more than 10stone you should get away with it if you ride steady - also depends on the shocks you go for or maybe even blocks... Thanks Del
TBH they are a tiny bit too small for a bloke our size, but if you use the keystone bars, and forward pegs, they are perfectly rideable..
Hi there, the gaiters are for looks only - underneath them there are regular fork seals and dust caps just like every other Harley! ... It's perfectly ok to remove them, you can either do this by dropping the fork legs out and slipping them off the top (if you want to retain them for later re-fitment) or just carefully slice them out with a Stanley knife, hope that helps, Cheers, Del
Nice sportster bro good job!
+Tom Lodato Thank you mostly kindly Sir, much appreciated!
Thanks for watching, appreciate the comment!
You're most welcome mate, and thanks for your very kind comments, you will absolutly LOVE the iron, they are the exact right balance of looks and durability, i cant be bothered with polishing bikes, its a muggs game... and the black finish on these just washes off once a week.. perfect... cheers mate, and takecare.. Del.
@Chipitin4birdie Yup, measured from hole centre to hole centre 11" or 280mm, they are LOW... and like i said, you will need them on the top preload setting or at best the next one down, any lower and you will have to bend the belt guard down a bit to clear the frame.. which indicates they ride LOWER on the road than the 10" strut, and you dont get a screwed back, they move no more than 1" up and down, but its a quality, superbly damped movement, and very comfortable even with the bare Bones seat
I've not been riding long but am now the proud owner of an Iron which I love your video has given me some ideas thank you
Hi Sara, Congratulations on getting your Iron, it must be awesome to have such a cool bike as your first ride.. Ride safe and take care. oh and of course, keep in touch... Del.
Great video! just what I needed. I've been agonising over what shocks to get and I settled on the Prograssive 412's 11", but when I spoke to progressive about it, they suggested to go for the 11.5" AND lower the front, to avoid bottoming out and scraping. You obviously chose the 11" and didn't lower the front, have you had any of those issues? I also was wondering if you recommend a shorter kickstand after lowering the bike. And lastly I was wondering about your licence plate size.
No Mark, the belt sits at almost centre to centre level as standard...so to lower it or raise it, as long as its not too much will not overstretch the belt....i checked the tension after doing it, and it was bang on....good point to remember though...well said... cheers, Del.
Hi Jay, yes you can, make sure the C spanner is firmly locked in and they will adjust on the stand one side at a time, depends how heavy you are, but I found them to be perfect on the stiffest setting for riding solo ... good luck with your bike, they are a great machine and I wish you many happy miles on it! ... Ride safe, Del
no, you're right first time, they were PS412 @ 11".. and very well it sat on them too.. thanks for your kind comment.. Del.
I got the same bike! But I've changed the sit for a Mustang. So comfortable. The original seat was hurting my tailbone.
spot on detailed vid. nice bike , carn't wait till i get my iron....
I have installed the same progressive 11” shock that you recommended and I love it so much as the ride now so so smooth but how come it became 10.5” travel after installed? Thanks
Thanks buddy, glad it helped you....ride safe and thanks for watching... Del.
I'd love to see You install a springer seat - I am about to do mine and I was wondering - because I like the looks of the "hairpin" springs more - if the position of the springs (forcing forward or rearward) is of any importance other, than just personal taste.
Thank you thank you! Must've seen this video like 10 times to know what I was halfway doing! I did the shocks and my Harley looks amazing! Thank you
Hi Albie, Thanks for your kind support, im glad the video can help you mate....doing it yourself makes you feel epic aye... nice one chap... take care, Del.