How To REALLY Set Up An Equatorial Telescope Mount - Beginners only please! Reflactor

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  • @southerncross4956
    @southerncross4956 Před 8 měsíci +14

    I am a retired mechanical technician, the EQ mount is a real bear to rap your brain around. I have watched many video about it, I have caused it and hate it with a great passion. BUT you have soothed my angry brow with reason and logic for my level of understanding the EQ. A thank you is weak but have added a “like” and prescribing to your channel.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 8 měsíci +3

      I was in the same boat when I bought this equatorial mount. It took a while to figure out a logical approach to setting them up as quickly as possible. Thanks for the like and subscribing. If push comes to shove, you can always convert many of the equatorial mounts into a "fake" Alt-Az mount in about one minute. Here's the video that shows you how: czcams.com/video/-VX_u6DMMhI/video.html

  • @uniformn8n
    @uniformn8n Před 4 měsíci +7

    This is by far the best "how to" video I've ever seen on EQ mount setup. Thank you very much, I feel like I might actually be able to use mine properly now.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you for the kind words! I had so much trouble stumbling through the setups for my EQ mount that I felt obligated to share the steps. Have fun!

  • @user-ij5rs7xq5y
    @user-ij5rs7xq5y Před rokem +6

    The first CZcamsr that mentioned us southern hemisphere folk lol!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem +1

      I could never forget about you all - it's half the planet! Clear skies!

  • @Matt-xn4pr
    @Matt-xn4pr Před 2 měsíci +2

    Literally the best vid in EQ mounting. I love how clearly you explained where rhe latitude comes from

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 2 měsíci

      Thank you for the kind words - I'm glad it was helpful!

  • @Shellback13202
    @Shellback13202 Před 28 dny +1

    As others have said, what a wonderfully explained video. I'm learning this so I can help my son with his first telescope. Thanks!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 28 dny

      I'm glad it was helpful. I hope you and your son have a blast with his telescope. Even if you don't get it polar aligned, you can still use it manually for lots of fun sky targets. Clear skies!

  • @Sassbag1
    @Sassbag1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Being a complete newbi this was awesome for me to watch, I have never used any or even looked through one but have always wanted to. So I retired, and love learning a new thing! I bought myself a complete telescope which came with this mount. I was so scared to touch it because I know how fragile the telescope is. Thank you very much for teaching an old woman how to enjoy the beautiful skies of Oklahoma!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you for the kind words. We were all new to this hobby once. I'm still learning new stuff every day. Congrats on the new telescope - have fun!

  • @timwhitlock3500
    @timwhitlock3500 Před rokem +12

    Great lesson! IMO the hobby killer is the altazimuth mount. I find constant fiddling with two axes to keep the target in the FOV is frustrating for me. I remember the little Sears EQ refractor I had in high school didn't show a lot but at least I could keep the target centered with simple twists of the RA slo-mo control. And the learning curve was not difficult even for my 15 year old self.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem +2

      I understand. My first telescope was a cheap alt-az refractor (with a locking bar). It was very frustrating and I got out of the hobby for about ten years until I built my own Dobsonian using Richard Berry's book. Thank you for watching!

  • @frustratedempl0yee
    @frustratedempl0yee Před 3 měsíci +2

    This is the Best video i have ever watched on youtube.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you for the very kind words. Admittedly, that is very motivational for me to get moving on the videos I have planned. :)

  • @bradleycarlson6081
    @bradleycarlson6081 Před 11 měsíci +4

    The polar alignment scope is nice; however, a beginner need not worry too much with this fine adjustment. Just getting close to polaris is fine, especially when using low powers. If viewing at higher power and/or longer period, one may need to also adjust the DEC axis knob slightly. But for me, this is less of a annoyance than two axis of an ALT/AZ mount. And no "Dobson hole" issues!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 11 měsíci +2

      You are right. By chance I had a polar alignment scope and wanted to include it in case anybody else had one and wondered what it was for. But generally, it isn't really needed. The Dobson's Hole is for real! It can be a challenge to work around. Clear skies.

  • @JANDLWOODWORKING
    @JANDLWOODWORKING Před 2 lety +5

    This was a HUGE Help for a beginner Thank you so much!!!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! I was in the same boat a few months ago and wanted to share everything I'd learned. Clear skies!

    • @JANDLWOODWORKING
      @JANDLWOODWORKING Před 2 lety +1

      @@reflactor I bought an old Meade 4550 reflector to get started with. the mount is old but works we will see how it goes before I pull the trigger on a newer scope

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 2 lety +1

      @@JANDLWOODWORKING Buying used is a GREAT way to get into the hobby. Every one of my telescopes is used (formerly abused and neglected). It gives you a chance to get a feel for things without being afraid of ruining them. Clear skies!

  • @joemann2178
    @joemann2178 Před rokem +4

    Great explanation, it's quite a lot for beginners to understand, but with your drawings and globe it ought to be simpler for people to visualise why and what they are adjusting on the EQ mount for alignment. Well done! 😁👍

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for watching! It was fun to research and learn about why each step is important. Clear skies!

  • @BenBreeg1138
    @BenBreeg1138 Před rokem +2

    Video saved! My FIL gave us a telescope and we are just getting started with it. This is a great tutorial!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching - I hope the video helps you get setup quickly. Have fun with your new telescope! I recommend the Moon, the planets, and then try to find the Orion Nebula (it's worth the effort). Clear skies!

  • @pepeimc
    @pepeimc Před 2 lety +4

    Well explained John. Not so easy at the beginning, but once mastered an eq is really convenient.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you. They are worth learning thanks to the convenience factor of the single tracking knob. At star parties visitors can easily track the targets themselves. Clear skies!

  • @reallifeengineer7214
    @reallifeengineer7214 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video!
    My telescope did not show up with ANY instructions on the eq mount.
    Your video saved me hours of reverse-engineering “how would I have designed this to work like, if I were to have designed the world’s first eq mount”. 🤣
    Thank you. 😊

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Happy to help. This video was the culmination of a lot of trial and error, stumbling my way through EQ setup. When I'd finally figured it out, I just had to share it so other folks did't waste their time like I did.

  • @spartanbritto
    @spartanbritto Před 9 měsíci +2

    Great video, loved the minute details, learned many things, 👍👍

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you for watching. Have fun with your telescope!

  • @JoeJaguar
    @JoeJaguar Před 2 lety +3

    The video goes into lots of detail this will definitely help a lot of new people and they will find it handy how to work the equatorial mount
    I also appreciate the comment to my channel cheers

  • @erikkayV
    @erikkayV Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ha, Un-loosen? So you are tightening the leg. Or just loosening or unscrewing.
    Just some light hearted teasing.
    Thank you for the video, it helped me out tremendously.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 9 měsíci

      Good catch. I think I recorded that at 6:00am - I clearly needed more coffee, lol.

  • @gee6607
    @gee6607 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Sir, that was very clear and concise ...thank you

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad it was useful. Clear skies!

  • @aritanner609
    @aritanner609 Před rokem +1

    Bought my Skymax couple days ago and during learning found your videos. Easiest subscribe button press ever :D

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem

      Thank you! Your kind words really made my day. :) This is certainly a passion project. Have tons of fun with your new telescope! Clear skies!

  • @marcorc5167
    @marcorc5167 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This was a perfect explanation, thanks a lot for the video!
    Will try my telescope in the next few days and report back using your advice.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 7 měsíci

      I'm glad it was helpful. Have fun!

  • @RaphaelChan888
    @RaphaelChan888 Před 16 dny +1

    I think I need to set up my telescope in North America to get a good view of the North Star from Australia 😁

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 16 dny +1

      Well, that might be tough, lol.

  • @rogerarts1
    @rogerarts1 Před rokem +1

    Thanx! very clear explanation! Now go outside and try myself!

  • @HJMJH
    @HJMJH Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem

      Thank you for watching. Clear skies!

  • @tanusreepaul9839
    @tanusreepaul9839 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Perfect demonstration

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I'm glad it was helpful. Clear skies!

  • @dude75011
    @dude75011 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank You 😇

  • @nathanhaber1513
    @nathanhaber1513 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 5 měsíci

      Wow! Thank you very much - These videos are a lot of fun to make, but admittedly, gifts like this are a really nice surprise.

  • @denmark2798
    @denmark2798 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Effectively, the equatorial mount and the act of polar aligning it, is simple proof that the world is a globe and not a "flat earth".

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Excellent point. However, I doubt many flat earthers are into astronomy.

  • @hivoltage52
    @hivoltage52 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Awesome video Dude, I learned so much !

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 5 měsíci

      Glad it helped. Have fun!

  • @shrikantlimaye4168
    @shrikantlimaye4168 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nice video! Very helpful; Thank you!!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 5 měsíci

      Glad it was helpful! Clear skies!

  • @nathanhaber1513
    @nathanhaber1513 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wow, thank you so much!!!!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 5 měsíci

      I'm glad you found the video helpful. Clear skies!

  • @user-qr4rr7ki9c
    @user-qr4rr7ki9c Před 5 měsíci +1

    Please consider a video showing how to polar align an older fork mounted right ascension declination telescope
    Like the Meade lx3 from 1980s . I’m trying hard but no success
    Thank you george

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 5 měsíci

      I will eventually find a good used one to tinker with. Then I'll be able to make a video for it.

  • @brenthann2623
    @brenthann2623 Před rokem +1

    thank you so much for this video.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem

      Thank YOU for watching. Hope it helps a little. Clear skies!

  • @GarethRidout
    @GarethRidout Před rokem +1

    This is great - thanks so much!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem

      Glad you found it helpful! Thank you for watching.

  • @poggergen1937
    @poggergen1937 Před 11 dny +1

    "For a long time, the equatorial mount has had a bad reputation as a hobby killer."
    I know this feeling all too well. Many moons ago, I went out and made probably one of the worst purchases I had ever made. I bought a Celestron Powerseeker 127EQ.
    I cannot describe using this thing as anything less than an absolute nightmare trainwreck dumpster fire. The scope was bad. The mount was bad. The optics were bad. The eyepieces were bad. The weather was bad.
    Given that it's a Newtonian on an EQ mount, anytime you wanted to adjust the scope you had to put it in this weird position to where you would be literally contorting your body in extremely uncomfortable ways to simply reach the slow motion controls. Which, mind you, are also bad. The knobs come constantly fell off and yes, the worm gears on mine did strip out.
    If you didn't have the courage to loosen the rings and rotate the tube every time you wanted to look at something else, you were out of luck. Not to mention the mount is barely stable, and the eyepieces that came with the scope have god awful FoV's.
    Do not buy a Celestron Powerseeker 127 EQ.
    I have since purchased a 10" Dobsonian. Life has gotten a lot better for me.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 11 dny

      I completely understand. I own two of those 127EQ's (bought used). I have plans for how to "make the best of a bad situation" tutorial for the folks who bought one. That'll be sometime later this year. As for the Dobsonian, congrats. It is the only telescope that I recommend. It brings... happiness.

  • @bauertime
    @bauertime Před 10 měsíci +1

    I've had one for 25 years and never knew about the fine tuning knobs. I always thought it was almost impossible to get it on the north star by adjusting the legs while looking through the polar scope.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for watching. I'm glad it was useful for you.

  • @Astronurd
    @Astronurd Před rokem +5

    Leveling an equatorial mount isn’t important like it is with an alt/az. It will still track accurately as long as it’s polar aligned. The declination axis also should be balanced but this is not possible with your scope fittings. You always pick the position in which the counterweight is lowest.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem

      Thank you for watching. Clear skies!

  • @RestorationAustralia
    @RestorationAustralia Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool telescope.😊

  • @jmKali
    @jmKali Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you ❤

  • @littlesunny63
    @littlesunny63 Před 2 lety +2

    Great, easy to understand video John. I know you’re a big dob guy, so. You still favor the dob?

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching. Yah, I was really dragged into it kicking and screaming, lol. It was originally just a restoration project, but then I thought I'd give it a try.

    • @littlesunny63
      @littlesunny63 Před 2 lety

      @@reflactor I know the feeling. I have a couple EQ things 😳. I keep pushing them aside thinking I’ll get to them one day. Dreading the EQ mount. Dobs are sooooo friendly.

  • @edgaralvarez7195
    @edgaralvarez7195 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Best video explaining this, so, i have a question, do i have to "set" the tripod pointing to the North Star every single time i'm using the telescope ?

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci

      Well, it depends on your tripod. In theory you are setting your polar axis to true north. If your tripod has adjustments, then there is some leeway.

  • @AmatureAstronomer
    @AmatureAstronomer Před 8 měsíci +2

    I am a dyslexic beginner. Equatorial mounts are difficult.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 8 měsíci +1

      If you follow the steps carefully, it should get you all lined up. Clear skies!

  • @catgoddess1190
    @catgoddess1190 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I just got one of these, and there is NO instructional manual with it? This is my first telescope to boot. Hoping this video will let me get it setup correctly and easily. In any case, it's unlikely I will have it ready for the solar eclipse on Monday :( I have also emailed the company so hopefully they will get this info to me (along with a warranty card) in a short period of time.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci

      I wish you the best of luck. Equatorials are a tough "first telescope" mount (at least I thought so). The good news is you can still use them without getting exact alignment. You can also make them sortof work like an alt-az mount. Just be careful on the balancing so they don't fall over (depending on the weight of your telescope): czcams.com/video/-VX_u6DMMhI/video.html

  • @gequiros
    @gequiros Před rokem +1

    Hey pal, BTW, how is Loren Ball doing ?
    i used to talk A LOT with him on different subjects, anyways, such a great guy
    And BTW, nice tutorial....

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem +1

      As far as astronomical discoveries go, he's probably one of the most accomplished modern astronomers around. Thanks for watching!

  • @seanflewin9803
    @seanflewin9803 Před 26 dny +1

    No wonder its called a hobby killer what a carry on to look at some stars for half an hour

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 25 dny

      After a few times, it does get pretty quick to set up. Those first few times, though, can be a challenge.

  • @chetanyasharma8618
    @chetanyasharma8618 Před 4 měsíci +1

    nice job making the video helped me (whether i should buy an eq mount or a mount) actually i wanted to ask which telescope you are using and is it good for me as i am Beginner.
    Thank you

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I always highly HIGHLY recommend a Dobsonian telescope, especially an 8 inch if you can afford one. They show up from time to time on Facebook Marketplace. If I were on a desert island and could only have one telescope, it would be a 32 inch Obsession Dobsonian... just kidding, it would be an 8 inch Dobsonian.

    • @chetanyasharma8618
      @chetanyasharma8618 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@reflactor thank you for your recommendation i really appreciate that, but Dobsonian telescope are not my type and will not be a great choice for me because i live in a place which is surrounded by tree and have some light pollution so i have to go like 100 meter away from my home or go on my house rooftop (which is really tough if i have a Dobsonian telescope ) So i was thinking of buying cassegrain telescope with an EQ mount (I know it is hard to setup the eq mount but as you know it provide a large range of motion) so i am thinking of buy either celestron astromaster 90EQ maksutov-cassegrain telescope or 127EQ model of it
      and liked your telescope also thats the reason why i was asking the name of it
      BY the way thanks for your efforts.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci

      I've had very good luck with Maksutov-Cassegrains and they aren't too expensive. I've never had a Schmidt-Cassegrain though (those were very popular, made by Celestron. Be sure to read up on the 127EQ. The mount is a bit wobbly.

  • @randallmarchant3443
    @randallmarchant3443 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I got exactly the same rig as a gift from a family member. Do you perhaps know which motor drives fit this EQ for planetary tracking please?

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci

      That's a good question. Unfortunately I don't - I never motorized it.

  • @stevevanderzwaag808
    @stevevanderzwaag808 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi I really love your videos. I’m new to this and I’m buying a telescope to start a hobby with my kids we just love it. I left you a comment on your other video 2021 ISS time lapse. Just had some questions if you could please answer. It would be a huge help for us. Appreciate it

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for watching! Feel free to ask any questions you like and I'll try my best to answer. I'm a frequent visitor to the Everything Telescopes group on Facebook too if that works better for you.

  • @johnwarner1929
    @johnwarner1929 Před 23 dny +1

    I can't see Polaris (tree in the way), so I try to use a compass (compensating for mag. north) but I am always off in my estimate. Maybe there is some electronic compass that I can attach to my AVX mount? Any ideas?

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 22 dny

      I'm honestly not sure what the best way is, but I know a lot of people do polar alignment during the day without stars (necessary to track the Sun, etc.), so there must be an alternative way.

  • @michaelmccorkle8906
    @michaelmccorkle8906 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Someone help me understand this. What are the reasons you have to set your longitude? I really don't understand this type of mount.

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I think you mean latitude, but it comes down to a quirk of geometry. You're technically setting it to point at the North Star (Polaris). Because the North Star is so far away and, in theory, it lies along the earths axis, the angle of the North Star above the horizon (no matter where you are in the northern hemisphere). The angle that the North Star is above the horizon happens to match whatever your latitude is (no matter where you are in the northern hemisphere). There's a visual explanation for this in the video. Have fun!

  • @njoroge_mn
    @njoroge_mn Před 4 měsíci +1

    Kindly assist . (I recently bought a celestron 130Eq-Md Telescope ) Still on the learning curve especially on what value I should mount it on if when I check at my latitude it reads -1.25552 ? ( I live In Nairobi Kenya. Kindly assist . Thanks

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci +1

      It sounds like you are just south of the equator, so your latitude is 1.25 degrees South. This means you won't be able to see the North Star (it is always below the horizon for you). However, as mentioned in the video, there is a "South Star" called Polaris Australis ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Octantis ). It is fairly dim, but it will work if you can find it.

  • @beldarin
    @beldarin Před 4 měsíci +1

    You feature my exact mount in your thumbnail, but not in the actual video. 😢

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hmmm, I think I took the photo the same day as the video. I'll double check it tonight. Which EQ mount do you have?

    • @beldarin
      @beldarin Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@reflactor Oh thank you so much, but it's ok, I figured out the bit I was stuck on, I had the mount fully rotated when I attached the scope, the rest went well. ☺️
      The rest of the video is very interesting, I'll be referring back to it I think

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 4 měsíci +1

      At that point in time, I had two identical EQ mounts, the only difference was color. One was shiny aluminum and the other was anodized golden color.

  • @kisho2679
    @kisho2679 Před 8 měsíci +1

    istead using a poarscope, which smartphone app does the same?

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 8 měsíci

      You may want to try this free app (I use it a lot): czcams.com/video/6-_58mSGz1Q/video.html

  • @lornaz1975
    @lornaz1975 Před rokem +1

    I think we are all wondering, where did your daughter get such a small pocket size telescope and what size eyepieces does it take lol!?!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem +4

      LOL, it was an accessory with her AstroPhysicist Barbie.

  • @RyykerHendrix-hg8wm
    @RyykerHendrix-hg8wm Před 9 měsíci

    Trying to set my skywatcher adventurer star tracker 2i the app doesnt come up on playstore. I downloaded synscan but cant connect to the device. The illuminator cant be on with the camera mount slider. So. Yeah, not feeling the “joy of astrophotgraphy yet!!

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 9 měsíci

      My experience with the smart goto telescopes is only with pretty ancient technology - I don't really know how to use the apps to control the telescopes (but I hear that it's pretty awesome when they do). You may want to seek out specialized interest Groups on Facebook. They can be super helpful.

  • @markyakubovsky3380
    @markyakubovsky3380 Před 5 měsíci

    Rookie question- I have a Celestron Nexstar 6SE, and I really don't care much for the electric ALtAz mount and setup. Is a 6 inch SCT too big to put on a manual Eq mount?? I can't seem to find any info on it. Thx..

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před 5 měsíci +1

      A 6 inch SCT should work fine on an EQ mount. You just have to get the proper connection method (usually a Vixen dovetail block).

    • @markyakubovsky3380
      @markyakubovsky3380 Před 5 měsíci

      Thx!! @@reflactor

  • @JimmyBackbeat
    @JimmyBackbeat Před rokem

    The Skywatcher mounts bottoms out at 62° while I live at 62,5°. Does this mean that they are useless to me?

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem +1

      Good question. In theory, EQ mounts should all be able to tilt from 0 to 90. It's unfortunate that Skywatcher put that limit on yours. However, I think it might be easily solvable. Have you tried putting a book or something under one leg to "tilt" it that extra half degree?

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem +2

      @@reflactor Or just don't fully level the tripod. Achieves the same, doesn't require you to lug extra stuff around to prop up that leg. With equatorial mounts, it doesn't really matter whether the tripod is level, as long as the mount itself is polar aligned. So a couple of degrees high, to give you that headspace for polar alignment, shouldn't pose any problems.

  • @RaphaelChan888
    @RaphaelChan888 Před 16 dny +1

    This video was disliked by 17 Flat Earthers. They couldn't handle the geometry

  • @gt4748
    @gt4748 Před rokem

    The music.....

  • @DanielLaRusso-Do
    @DanielLaRusso-Do Před rokem +1

    Great video! Thank you very much sir! Cheers from 40,6 latitude 22,9 longitude 😉😂

    • @reflactor
      @reflactor  Před rokem +1

      Thanks! From your coordinates, you're either in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean (22,9West) or the middle of the Aegean Sea (22,9East). My only advice is to swim!

    • @DanielLaRusso-Do
      @DanielLaRusso-Do Před rokem

      Aegean!

  • @Omvrk27
    @Omvrk27 Před rokem +1

    Thanks !