The narrative about Mitchell Robinson playing in above 70 games only once in his career is unfair, since he was actually on tract to do so in the 2019/2020 season, but the season was abruptly ended league-wide on March 11th 2020 due to the CV-19 lock-downs.The NY Knicks only played 65 (or 66) games total that season, with Mitchell Robinson playing 61 of those games. And he was fully healthy when the season abruptly ended. Anyway, most of his injuries has been contact injuries from landing awkwardly on someone's foot after fighting for rebounds and playing tough defense.
Bro he’s still always injured lmao. Just bc he almost made it thru a full season doesnt disclose the rest of his playing career always being hurt. Whether its his fault or not. Availability is your best ability.
@@Katakuri213 - That’s another false narrative, though. Just for context, Isiah Hartenstein who joined the NBA in the same 2018 draft year as Mitchell Robinson has only played 2 more games than him. Isiah Hartenstein has played 322 regular season games, while Mitchell Robinson has played 320 regular season games. Also, Hartenstein suffers from a perpetual Achilles tendon issue which can rupture at anytime. Mitchell Robinson’s injuries are contact injuries from playing something called DEFENSE, or from being purposely injured by dirty players like Joel Embiid who grabs at Mitchell Robinson’s ankles as he goes up for a dunk.
The more I rewatch highlights from this past season the more it's confirmed that I-Hart is a massive loss. He's in the mix of so many good plays - he's tenacious, smart, fit perfectly with the team. And that's not a knock on Mitch. Leon needs to figure something out here
@@donWWE31108 his value far exceeded the 'invisible' games, esp with Mitch barely healthy. but Mitch was solid against Embiid. they need a competent backup in case
@@noodle123ify When Danny doesn't like his player, he would attempt to trade for a 1st round draft pick to redo. It's not gonna be easy getting Kessler.
even if we wanted to the salary doesn’t match up between him n mrob so we’d have to send a key player like divo or hart as well in the trade to match salary which makes 0 sense so lopez def isn’t happening
Walker Kessler is 22, Jalen Duran is 20 or 21., why would their teams be interested in trading them? I don’t know about Duran, but Kessler doesn’t seem to get along with the Utah coach, I think they just want the Knicks to take their baggage and get first round picks plus Mitchell Robinson . Just bring back back precious and trust Jericho sims.
Everybody keeps talking about a center that can shoot, that would great but we don’t need that, history shows that u can win championships with defensive minded centers, Tyson chandler, Ben Wallace , Boston won with Perkins , Mitch Robinson if healthy can get it done, we need a solid back up and we good 👍🏿
I think we are good at the 5 position. Sims started a decent amount of games the last 2 years. Sims could have a jump like Deuce in his 3rd year. Sign a vet like Javalle to ride the bench mentor and be ready to play when needed
Mitch only missed 5 games his second year 61 of 66 games in short covid year ! A 72 game year is 3 healthy years including first year he had 60 game season and just 2 injured years both broken bones name his 3rd injury ?
Nah this doesnt make sense, for that we would kept hartenstien. We're gonna try to add precious, and lowrey so the backup center will be someone minimal.
@@rah0210 theyre suggesting trading mitch for brook, which doesnt make any sense, brooke is 36 and making 23m. what im saying is if we trading mitch its gonna be to resign ihart. Brook is 36 and making alot of money it doesnt make sense. Mitch doesnt make alot of money we gotta rock out with him and land a backup some other way.
@vindigga6 I'm totally with you that lopez isn't the guy we need. I'm just saying with what okc offered him ihart wasn't coming back no matter what we did. Just couldn't get anywhere close to that number even if they got rid of mitch.
@@rah0210 we had 5mil in cap room left for the first apron on the salary cap. With another 15m for the second apron. If we traded mitch that woulda freed up another 15m, but we would have been locked at the 2nd apron. So we could have moved mitch to pay hartenstien but i think the knicks didnt want to be locked at that second apron. At that point ur roster is locked and you cant sign anyone off waivers or anything like that. I think rose wanted to keep flexibility and robinson is still really good, we just gotta keep him from getting hurt. Back to brook, if we add him itll put us on the second apron, i just dont think it makes sense. So yea we could have paid hartenstien if we moved mitch, but moving mitch would have also cost us a pick (because we dont wanna take on anymore salary). It was possible but it was gonna require twisting into pretzels.
@vindigga6 being under the first apron isn't free salary cap space. Only the normal salary cap (around 140) is cap space where you can spend it however you want. No matter what we were a team over the cap working with exceptions. In this case it was iharts early bird rights which is why there was a limit on what we could offer. Trading away mitch wouldn't have gotten us under the cap so no matter what the offer to ihart doesn't change.
Duop reith. Cheapest salary possible. Top 5 3 pt shooting center. Above average on defense. You cant double brunson or blitz him in pick and roll with duop on the floor. He will unlock knicks offense
Lopez always solid if he’s the cheaper option let’s gooo experience goes a long way but Kessler would be ideal but ainge prices are ridiculous. Could get Paul Reed and achwia and would should be ok. Not trading McBride two way player and good contract
Pretty sure we can't use the whole thing cuz using it all would put us over the first apron which isn't allowed and once we use the tax payer MLE and fill out the roster with vet min or re-sign precious we won't be able to use any of it.
Oh! See now if we get Lopez, .... now we're right back on track at excellent pivot depth after loosing Zay. Even at his age Lopez brings Exactly what we need to the table. Not to mention great veteran intellect and championship pedigree. He'd fit in with what the Knicks are doing seamlessly and very effectively in my opinion
Doesn’t make any sense to trade with Mitchell Robinson leave Mitchell Robinson on the Team leave Mitchell Robinson alone. Let’s just get somebody else out there to come off the bench for him.
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to trade mitch for brook would be sheer stupidity.. knicks arent doing that
The narrative about Mitchell Robinson playing in above 70 games only once in his career is unfair, since he was actually on tract to do so in the 2019/2020 season, but the season was abruptly ended league-wide on March 11th 2020 due to the CV-19 lock-downs.The NY Knicks only played 65 (or 66) games total that season, with Mitchell Robinson playing 61 of those games. And he was fully healthy when the season abruptly ended. Anyway, most of his injuries has been contact injuries from landing awkwardly on someone's foot after fighting for rebounds and playing tough defense.
Bro he’s still always injured lmao. Just bc he almost made it thru a full season doesnt disclose the rest of his playing career always being hurt. Whether its his fault or not. Availability is your best ability.
@@Katakuri213 - That’s another false narrative, though. Just for context, Isiah Hartenstein who joined the NBA in the same 2018 draft year as Mitchell Robinson has only played 2 more games than him. Isiah Hartenstein has played 322 regular season games, while Mitchell Robinson has played 320 regular season games. Also, Hartenstein suffers from a perpetual Achilles tendon issue which can rupture at anytime. Mitchell Robinson’s injuries are contact injuries from playing something called DEFENSE, or from being purposely injured by dirty players like Joel Embiid who grabs at Mitchell Robinson’s ankles as he goes up for a dunk.
@@Katakuri213Bro.. you got fried on this thread.
The more I rewatch highlights from this past season the more it's confirmed that I-Hart is a massive loss. He's in the mix of so many good plays - he's tenacious, smart, fit perfectly with the team. And that's not a knock on Mitch. Leon needs to figure something out here
Agree, his pick and roll was helping jb score. Also he had great passes. Thunders will be a problem next year.
He also was invisible in some games he wasn’t perfect
@@donWWE31108 his value far exceeded the 'invisible' games, esp with Mitch barely healthy. but Mitch was solid against Embiid. they need a competent backup in case
MITCH AINT LEAVING
THAT AINT UP TO US THAT IS UP TO THE OWNER AND WHAT HE SAYS GOES
Not the owner our GM and he’s too smart to trade Mitch specially for an old fart or any c out there which doesn’t make us better unless is Kessler
@@carlosdelgado6897Y'all said the same thing about RJ there going to trade Mitchell Robinson it's just a matter of time.
Bro if Paul Reed is the only Center we pick up this season I'm furious.
Agreed. The Knicks are moving too slow to lock up a big man. I hope we're wrong and there's something in the works.
never would happen
Danny "Boy" is NOT very happy with Walker Kessler's level of play. Hence, he may be willing to make a reasonable move.
Ainge is such a pain in the ass. Always has been dating back to his playing days. I just don't see a world in which that trade happens
@@noodle123ify When Danny doesn't like his player, he would attempt to trade for a 1st round draft pick to redo. It's not gonna be easy getting Kessler.
I agree ☝️
@@Paidonjok I hope you're right, Kessler seems like a good fit. But Knicks 1st round picks are limited now
😂😂😂 Danny boy
even if we wanted to the salary doesn’t match up between him n mrob so we’d have to send a key player like divo or hart as well in the trade to match salary which makes 0 sense so lopez def isn’t happening
Oh nah son. I thought we would have Lopez in conjunction with Mitch. Nah we need them in tandem or we're lacking heavily at center
We are not trading Mitch for another center. We have McBride and we’re guard heavy he’s on the market.
Too old, too much.
He’s good but we keep Mitch and trade McBride
Paul Reed gonna claim 76ers is an easy opponent now 😂
Love the Duran/Ivey deal. Would flip Ivey for Kessler or Richards. Having two low cost 5s for 2+ years frees up $$ for JB and JR’s extensions.
Id keep Ivey as we prob have to send Deuce in that deal.
The Ivey-Duren trade won’t work because those guys would both want big money and they’ll just be bench guys in NY
Walker Kessler is 22, Jalen Duran is 20 or 21., why would their teams be interested in trading them? I don’t know about Duran, but Kessler doesn’t seem to get along with the Utah coach, I think they just want the Knicks to take their baggage and get first round picks plus Mitchell Robinson . Just bring back back precious and trust Jericho sims.
You’re crazy for even considering this trade!
Everybody keeps talking about a center that can shoot, that would great but we don’t need that, history shows that u can win championships with defensive minded centers, Tyson chandler, Ben Wallace , Boston won with Perkins , Mitch Robinson if healthy can get it done, we need a solid back up and we good 👍🏿
we dont want reed he sucks
Knicks are not trading one of the best offensive rebounders and best shot blockers in Mitch
I think we are good at the 5 position. Sims started a decent amount of games the last 2 years. Sims could have a jump like Deuce in his 3rd year. Sign a vet like Javalle to ride the bench mentor and be ready to play when needed
Have you seen Ihart 3pt numbers lol. Thibs was right to tell him not to take them. And he got him paid
For the person that says “ too old , too much “? Mitch is “ too young, too little games played “
Are you using the call of duty zombies music?? 😂
Correct
McBride isn’t going and Mitch isn’t going and Hukporti is the best athlete on the team and backup To Mitch !
Definitely not. If he was double more than the veteran minimum, then sure.
Mitch only missed 5 games his second year 61 of 66 games in short covid year ! A 72 game year is 3 healthy years including first year he had 60 game season and just 2 injured years both broken bones name his 3rd injury ?
Nah this doesnt make sense, for that we would kept hartenstien. We're gonna try to add precious, and lowrey so the backup center will be someone minimal.
You make it sound like we let ihart walk on purpose. We offered him the most we were allowed to and got outbid.
@@rah0210 theyre suggesting trading mitch for brook, which doesnt make any sense, brooke is 36 and making 23m. what im saying is if we trading mitch its gonna be to resign ihart. Brook is 36 and making alot of money it doesnt make sense. Mitch doesnt make alot of money we gotta rock out with him and land a backup some other way.
@vindigga6 I'm totally with you that lopez isn't the guy we need. I'm just saying with what okc offered him ihart wasn't coming back no matter what we did. Just couldn't get anywhere close to that number even if they got rid of mitch.
@@rah0210 we had 5mil in cap room left for the first apron on the salary cap. With another 15m for the second apron. If we traded mitch that woulda freed up another 15m, but we would have been locked at the 2nd apron. So we could have moved mitch to pay hartenstien but i think the knicks didnt want to be locked at that second apron. At that point ur roster is locked and you cant sign anyone off waivers or anything like that. I think rose wanted to keep flexibility and robinson is still really good, we just gotta keep him from getting hurt.
Back to brook, if we add him itll put us on the second apron, i just dont think it makes sense. So yea we could have paid hartenstien if we moved mitch, but moving mitch would have also cost us a pick (because we dont wanna take on anymore salary). It was possible but it was gonna require twisting into pretzels.
@vindigga6 being under the first apron isn't free salary cap space. Only the normal salary cap (around 140) is cap space where you can spend it however you want. No matter what we were a team over the cap working with exceptions. In this case it was iharts early bird rights which is why there was a limit on what we could offer. Trading away mitch wouldn't have gotten us under the cap so no matter what the offer to ihart doesn't change.
Dam i wouldnt trade $ mitch for lopez even. So if bucks want more than cool lol
This video made no sense
So thibs let precious that came half a season and shoot 3s, But wouldn’t let IHart shoot 3s, that’s Cap
He can teach the new guys!
Duop reith. Cheapest salary possible. Top 5 3 pt shooting center. Above average on defense. You cant double brunson or blitz him in pick and roll with duop on the floor. He will unlock knicks offense
Keep in mind. None of the centers being spoken about can hit the outside shot like duop
I feel what u saying but no way we trading a 26yr old Mitch for 36yr old Brook. 3 years ago perhaps but not now.
Lopez always solid if he’s the cheaper option let’s gooo experience goes a long way but Kessler would be ideal but ainge prices are ridiculous. Could get Paul Reed and achwia and would should be ok. Not trading McBride two way player and good contract
Robert Williams isn’t available enough
The Knicks they can't make any tread they don't have any players to give up at this time, you not making any sense what the matter with you .
do you end all your videos like that on purpose ? lol no “bye” or “until next time”
What can we do with the trade exception which is going to expire on 7/8/24 from the Obi Toppin trade???
Pretty sure we can't use the whole thing cuz using it all would put us over the first apron which isn't allowed and once we use the tax payer MLE and fill out the roster with vet min or re-sign precious we won't be able to use any of it.
Oh! See now if we get Lopez, .... now we're right back on track at excellent pivot depth after loosing Zay. Even at his age Lopez brings Exactly what we need to the table. Not to mention great veteran intellect and championship pedigree. He'd fit in with what the Knicks are doing seamlessly and very effectively in my opinion
Thank god you are not our GM
Doesn’t make any sense to trade with Mitchell Robinson leave Mitchell Robinson on the Team leave Mitchell Robinson alone. Let’s just get somebody else out there to come off the bench for him.
No way on Lopez too old
Reed is too small Theis would fit perfect ngl
Utah will not trade a good player to the West, no matter what, so forget that.
Lopez would be the better fit after losing ihart get it done Leon rose
Never gonna happen
Lopez makes 23 million a year no way we get him
Brook Lopez is 36 and about to be washed. I'd rather sign Nerlens Noel
I’ll take brook and then have him be the mentor to the big man we draft next year.
😂 Nerlen No-hands is more washed than Lopez..when was the last time you've seen Noel in a uniform? Never again
Lopez would be the better fit after losing Ihart get it done Leon rose
@@donovanjaden1617idk answer there are too many to list, need a real 5 scoring is covered, answer isn’t Precious if not sign n trade
@@elomahfeehis defense was 🔥🔥🔥🔥