After you've done 3 or 4 swaps and figure out what works and what doesn't,. It's pretty damn easy! I was gonna start a CZcams channel about my swaps, but there are thousands of them already! Great vids by the way!
Do one for an 5.3 i have fully assembled intake witn fuel rails and injectors and throttle body i have adapters for injectors do i just need the xlink?
On cutting the cross over Tube u dont have to weld it there is a tool similar to a brake flaring tool that but the rings on the tube for gm push lock connectors then u can use adapters to 6an
The cost of the intake, injectors if needed, return type fuel system & required regulator, throttle body hassles, gaskets, hoses, burgers tacos and beer = $26 per extra hp/torque or 15+ gain. It’s cheaper to just take the rear seat out and spare tire out to get the same gains. ASE Master Tech of 35 years
I swapped one basically for free or i guess $50 for the ebay special throttle body. I had 2 of the rectangle port ones my dad had saved off of some 6.2s. My tuner had the cathedral one and wanted my rectangle port one so straight up trade
Did it, it cost me a bit, but it was worth it. Got mine ported too, as well as the throttle body. But on a heads cam lq9 it was a noticeable improvement
@@TheDrivewayEngineer nah but the throttle response and smoothness of power delivery alone was worth it in a truck that I drove daily. Odd response though, guess ppl don't care for meaningful input anymore
What about for 2002 trucks, I've heard all you need for DBW is a straight wire adapter. Because they use a different TAC module, pedal and signal to pcm. If so that would be a good harness and computer for a swap like that correct?
Great info! I did this on my Procharged 5.3 Ended up scoring a complete TBSS intake for $125. Additionally, I purchased a throttle bottle adapter, throttle cable bracket & some compression fuel fittings w/ my leftover braided fuel hose to modify my existing truck rail (no welding needed). It all works great! Did require some work and time, but well worth it.
I put 1 on my 2001 Chevy 2500 with the Lq4,. I got mine for $100 with injectors, rails, and bolts. Only 2 things I needed was eBay 4 bolt mechanical throttle body, and a Corvette filter regulator, I got at O'Reilly's cheaper then on-line. I modified my holder for my TB cable. I was able to reuse my intake gaskets.
if you go to a 92mm throttle body to match the intake don't forget your now also going to need an intake tube to match that. Intake manifolds have to be the worst dollar to power gain ratio of any modification you can do on a ls, especially when you consider the $1200 fast intakes for like 25 hp gain? Don't get me started about the stupid aluminum intakes to heat your way to lower volumetric efficiency
Since you are on the topic of intakes, if I shave my manifold like you did, will I have to leave a wart for the map sensors since I’m not running a turbo ?
I have an X Link I'm not using if anyone needs it. Suckers are expensive! I was tempted to reverse engineer it and have some of JR's overseas connections repop it. LOL
Not that easy to plug the vette regulator on either, looks like he had that fuel rail line shortened..if you don't shorten it then your factory feed and return will rub on the firewall in a 99-07 truck
Great info. So I get the injectors and corvette regulator. . My question is does the fuel rails and crossover pipe not bolt on straight to the TBSS, coming off a 2002 yukon 5.3l, or TBSS fuel rail is a must?
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I have a stage 2 summit cam 8701r1 and 2800 stall along with shorty headers and ls6 springs and lifters. How ever I'm running the stock intake off the yukon just want to upgrade. Was hoping I could run my existing stock fuel rails, but if you say they don't fit then TBSS fuel rails and intake it is
@@TheDrivewayEngineer no doubt, I see plenty of people getting the 300-400$ sheet metal intake that looks super cool and mean, and loose crazy amounts of bottom end and only gain a few up top, not worth it, but does look nice.
Very realistic video Driveway Engineer, hey i'm in the process of the TBSS intake manifold swap on my 04 Tahoe with return style fuel system so i bought the C5 Vette fuel filter/regulator and there is no way that filter can be mounted on the stock fuel rail feed line location because it will end up way too far back in the rail so both hoses ( feed & return ) from the tank will get kinked and smashed against the fire wall and by looking at this picture you got from internet that guy had to modified the fuel rail to instal the filter outlet is closer to the crossover junction so the inlet & return connections are in the stock location and my question 4 you is: do you know who that guy is to ask him or how he did it because it turned out super clean and factory so if you get me in the right direction i'll greatly appreciate it THXXXXX
The Corvette filter is intended to be mounted way back by the tank, not up on the rail. Having the return less rail is pointless if you turn a 8" return into an 8' return
I just did this lol. What a pain in the ass. When you think its plug and play lol. X link is 400 lol. Then I needed injectors another 500. Thats 1000$ for 15 hp lol.
Is the l96 intake the same as tbss but just square port....I have a spare l96 intake with propane injectors from a l96 I got out of a schawns delivery truck
I've got an LS3 376/480 in the garage that I'm planning on putting in an S10 Blazer. I'd like to put a truck manifold on it and an aftermarket drive by cable throttle body. Will any truck with the gen 4 LS intake manifold work? I've done a little research but it's hard to find much info when it comes to gen 4 or really LS3 swapping in general. Most people just throw in a stand alone harness and computer for a couple grand, but I work in a junk yard so stock parts are pretty easy for me to come by :)
What about the sensor on the top of the intake? I did this on my '01 and had to change the connector on my harness to fit...wish I could remember. MAP sensor?
@@brandonloll4262 depends on what intake you are starting with. The truck intake is pretty good, it the cost of the TBSS intake worth the little bit of power gain. The answer is no unless you step up to the 90 and 102mm TB's that's where the power gains are
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I'm referring to the truck style intake. Sorry I should have been more specific. It's the same at the lsxrt but it only has a 78mm opening. I have one on the way and I've seen people port them because of the casting mold causing restrictions. I just wanted to hear your opinion on them and if it's better than the stock intake.
@Brad P. There are a couple of videos out there on tricks with Dorman truck intake. The big difference to ask, I where you want your torque to kick in. Long runners means early low end torque, used in trucks, 4L60e has a 3.26:1 ratio, so fast get up and go. Not sure, but TBSS probably has mid-length runner while Corvette, Camero etc. has short runners for 5,500 - 7,000 RPM. In short, Air has mass, mass has weight, more if cold or damp. When it travel down a long tube/runner, it’s moving. Intake valve closes and this air stacks up. The pressure increases a little but stacks up. Intake opens and more air (Oxygen) rushes in. Better volumetric efficiency. High speed suffers in this condition so the runners are short & perhaps larger pointed toward the front. The folks at Isuzu, who made the Trooper, Rodeo, Vehi-Cross, etc., used a vacuum control that opened a single shaft the changed the length of the runners by simply opening a row of throttle valves/butterflies down the center at 2,800 RPM. The effect was cool. As you held the pedal still uphill, at 2,800, the vehicle started going faster without moving the pedal. The best this would be a large volume plenum and a row of valves that could rotate forward, to create a shorter direct path shorter for mid to high range. Sorry to be long! Just enthusiastically sharing like “Driveway Engineer”. Just helping. Anyone who create a CZcams channel could spend all day to answer everyone’s comments. Hope this helps!
These are just Gen 4 LS intake,you find it on the isuzu npr, nothing special. Also not all TBSS are LS but Atlas even. Ugh the Platform GMT900 is better
Thank you. Been doing research on this for my truck and never got the extra info that you added in.
Yeah, idc what intake people run, but people should know, you're not just throwing one on lol
After you've done 3 or 4 swaps and figure out what works and what doesn't,. It's pretty damn easy! I was gonna start a CZcams channel about my swaps, but there are thousands of them already! Great vids by the way!
Do one for an 5.3 i have fully assembled intake witn fuel rails and injectors and throttle body i have adapters for injectors do i just need the xlink?
Thanks TDE, good info as always!
It's never as easy as it looks on T.V. or the internet. LOL
c'mon
On cutting the cross over Tube u dont have to weld it there is a tool similar to a brake flaring tool that but the rings on the tube for gm push lock connectors then u can use adapters to 6an
The cost of the intake, injectors if needed, return type fuel system & required regulator, throttle body hassles, gaskets, hoses, burgers tacos and beer = $26 per extra hp/torque or 15+ gain.
It’s cheaper to just take the rear seat out and spare tire out to get the same gains.
ASE Master Tech of 35 years
I added “Horse-Torque” to my vocabulary and “Tacos” when answer the phone.
You are a trend setter dude!
Great info as always 👌🏼
Slap it on while eating tacos....😂😂😂
Thanks for this video
Aiming for 600hp on spray and this is my first swap, should a 4L80E work good for that application? Street car btw.
Yes lol
I swapped one basically for free or i guess $50 for the ebay special throttle body. I had 2 of the rectangle port ones my dad had saved off of some 6.2s. My tuner had the cathedral one and wanted my rectangle port one so straight up trade
Motley Cue 🤘🏻 lol
Lol...doesn't everyone know it's easier when you're eating tacos! Awesome! Love it!
If I have a 2010 5.3 and my stock intake is cracked, would it be a good option to get the TBSS? I have the rails with the flex injectors.
You already have it
Did it, it cost me a bit, but it was worth it. Got mine ported too, as well as the throttle body. But on a heads cam lq9 it was a noticeable improvement
Probably does wheelies now, at least 1567 hp per $
@@TheDrivewayEngineer nah but the throttle response and smoothness of power delivery alone was worth it in a truck that I drove daily. Odd response though, guess ppl don't care for meaningful input anymore
What about for 2002 trucks, I've heard all you need for DBW is a straight wire adapter. Because they use a different TAC module, pedal and signal to pcm. If so that would be a good harness and computer for a swap like that correct?
Great info! I did this on my Procharged 5.3 Ended up scoring a complete TBSS intake for $125. Additionally, I purchased a throttle bottle adapter, throttle cable bracket & some compression fuel fittings w/ my leftover braided fuel hose to modify my existing truck rail (no welding needed). It all works great!
Did require some work and time, but well worth it.
twin Shanghai Swirly bois!!!
I put 1 on my 2001 Chevy 2500 with the Lq4,. I got mine for $100 with injectors, rails, and bolts. Only 2 things I needed was eBay 4 bolt mechanical throttle body, and a Corvette filter regulator, I got at O'Reilly's cheaper then on-line. I modified my holder for my TB cable. I was able to reuse my intake gaskets.
So, 100, plus 50 for the TB, and what? Like thirty for the regulator?
So 180,not bad
How where the gains? Worth it?
@@TheDrivewayEngineer that's about right
@@bertvisser6423 well on a stock motor not worth it,. But if your like me with a cam, headers, and a tune then yes worth it
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I have another 1 in my garage with injectors, I got that 1 at the wreaking yard for $65
if you go to a 92mm throttle body to match the intake don't forget your now also going to need an intake tube to match that. Intake manifolds have to be the worst dollar to power gain ratio of any modification you can do on a ls, especially when you consider the $1200 fast intakes for like 25 hp gain? Don't get me started about the stupid aluminum intakes to heat your way to lower volumetric efficiency
gotcha, so if not the tbss what intake then? not trying to spend over a grand i'm not boosting or spraying so FAST intake not "worth it"
Nothing.
It's free.
Use the one you have
It’ll rain cheeseburgers in your life! Aaaaaahahahahahaha
Man I love that paint job on your intake did you shave it or hire it out how did you get it that good to paint and clear luv it
Recommend fuel regular for forced induction?
Since you are on the topic of intakes, if I shave my manifold like you did, will I have to leave a wart for the map sensors since I’m not running a turbo ?
You can put it in the rear, where the brake booster goes
I have an X Link I'm not using if anyone needs it. Suckers are expensive! I was tempted to reverse engineer it and have some of JR's overseas connections repop it. LOL
Michael Couey for gold or silver blade?
It’s not needed
About20 was that to the original poster or the requirement of an x link?
badone07 Req of xlink
@@badone07 gold blade
Not that easy to plug the vette regulator on either, looks like he had that fuel rail line shortened..if you don't shorten it then your factory feed and return will rub on the firewall in a 99-07 truck
They like 500 now
Great info. So I get the injectors and corvette regulator. . My question is does the fuel rails and crossover pipe not bolt on straight to the TBSS, coming off a 2002 yukon 5.3l, or TBSS fuel rail is a must?
The truck rails don't work. Which is exactly why it's not worth it if you'
re just buying parts.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I have a stage 2 summit cam 8701r1 and 2800 stall along with shorty headers and ls6 springs and lifters. How ever I'm running the stock intake off the yukon just want to upgrade. Was hoping I could run my existing stock fuel rails, but if you say they don't fit then TBSS fuel rails and intake it is
Hay man, I got a square port intake that looks like that. 2007 6.2 truck motor. Square port. Posted up on facebook for 300 complete.
still considerably cheaper than most aftermarket intakes..
More effective too 😂
@@TheDrivewayEngineer no doubt, I see plenty of people getting the 300-400$ sheet metal intake that looks super cool and mean, and loose crazy amounts of bottom end and only gain a few up top, not worth it, but does look nice.
What about for a car? I doubt those will fit under my Nova hood.
If they won't fit under your hood the truck accessories probably won't either
@@TheDrivewayEngineer No, I was asking what intakes will fit for a car. I figured the ones you were showing was more for trucks.
Very realistic video Driveway Engineer, hey i'm in the process of the TBSS intake manifold swap on my 04 Tahoe with return style fuel system so i bought the C5 Vette fuel filter/regulator and there is no way that filter can be mounted on the stock fuel rail feed line location because it will end up way too far back in the rail so both hoses ( feed & return ) from the tank will get kinked and smashed against the fire wall and by looking at this picture you got from internet that guy had to modified the fuel rail to instal the filter outlet is closer to the crossover junction so the inlet & return connections are in the stock location and my question 4 you is: do you know who that guy is to ask him or how he did it because it turned out super clean and factory so if you get me in the right direction i'll greatly appreciate it THXXXXX
The Corvette filter is intended to be mounted way back by the tank, not up on the rail.
Having the return less rail is pointless if you turn a 8" return into an 8' return
Couldn't u just cut a truck rail like u said and used compression fittings with 3/8 soft copper
You can try I guess
I just did this lol. What a pain in the ass. When you think its plug and play lol. X link is 400 lol. Then I needed injectors another 500. Thats 1000$ for 15 hp lol.
That's a bummer, I try to warn folks lol
Is the l96 intake the same as tbss but just square port....I have a spare l96 intake with propane injectors from a l96 I got out of a schawns delivery truck
What is the square box that sets on fuel rail looks evaporate line coming in and out do I need a plug getting ready to put mine on too
Is it a regulator I’m going to put the filter regulator where filter is now 02 silverado
Do you have a part number for the iac and tps?
I've got an LS3 376/480 in the garage that I'm planning on putting in an S10 Blazer. I'd like to put a truck manifold on it and an aftermarket drive by cable throttle body. Will any truck with the gen 4 LS intake manifold work? I've done a little research but it's hard to find much info when it comes to gen 4 or really LS3 swapping in general. Most people just throw in a stand alone harness and computer for a couple grand, but I work in a junk yard so stock parts are pretty easy for me to come by :)
No because they're all 4 bolt cathedral port, you seem to want a three bolt rect port.
Also, I'm not sure how you're planning to tune it like that.
What about the sensor on the top of the intake? I did this on my '01 and had to change the connector on my harness to fit...wish I could remember. MAP sensor?
You should have been able to swap the stock one over.
Can you swap the fuel rail on it to not have to use the corvet regulator
Not to like a stock truck return rail. There's nowhere for the truck return regulator to mount either.
When is your next trip to the yard? I’d like to accompany you. I need a trans lol
Probably next weekend after I get back from Canadia
The Driveway Engineer you need to check out the new deals. Free entry and xx dollars for any trans! Stupid low prices
I have heard this many times, what are the "real" performance gains with this TBSS?
N/A? Like 15 hp, not enough to bother with for me.
I'll probably do one on Jewel because it looks cooler shaved though.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer That's what i thought. I am sticking with the OEM truck intake, simply because I like lots of torque!
$80 minus the throttle body for me at the junk yard..
Can you buy a cable style throttle body that's a 4 bolt design?
Yes
Will the truck injectors fit in the TBSS intake?
The short answer is no, the height is wrong
@@TheDrivewayEngineer could those ICT billet adapters be used to make it work?
Mmmmmm raining hamburgers
Mmmmm cheeseburgers
why can't you use the 3 bolt to 4 bolt adapter for a 3 bolt DBW?
You can, but then you're right back to a 78mm opening
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I'm sure you'd still see good gains from the intake especially boosted.
@@brandonloll4262 depends on what intake you are starting with. The truck intake is pretty good, it the cost of the TBSS intake worth the little bit of power gain. The answer is no unless you step up to the 90 and 102mm TB's that's where the power gains are
Great video, but the xlink isn't always required for DBW. Yes it is for P59, but the P01 DBW will run the 4 bolt TBs with no xlink.
Swollentastebud not needed for p59 either. There’s a work around
What are your thoughts on the dorman replacement intake that resembles the fast?
If you need a low rise intake, it's the best one
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I'm referring to the truck style intake. Sorry I should have been more specific. It's the same at the lsxrt but it only has a 78mm opening. I have one on the way and I've seen people port them because of the casting mold causing restrictions. I just wanted to hear your opinion on them and if it's better than the stock intake.
@Brad P. There are a couple of videos out there on tricks with Dorman truck intake. The big difference to ask, I where you want your torque to kick in. Long runners means early low end torque, used in trucks, 4L60e has a 3.26:1 ratio, so fast get up and go. Not sure, but TBSS probably has mid-length runner while Corvette, Camero etc. has short runners for 5,500 - 7,000 RPM.
In short, Air has mass, mass has weight, more if cold or damp. When it travel down a long tube/runner, it’s moving. Intake valve closes and this air stacks up. The pressure increases a little but stacks up. Intake opens and more air (Oxygen) rushes in. Better volumetric efficiency. High speed suffers in this condition so the runners are short & perhaps larger pointed toward the front. The folks at Isuzu, who made the Trooper, Rodeo, Vehi-Cross, etc., used a vacuum control that opened a single shaft the changed the length of the runners by simply opening a row of throttle valves/butterflies down the center at 2,800 RPM. The effect was cool. As you held the pedal still uphill, at 2,800, the vehicle started going faster without moving the pedal.
The best this would be a large volume plenum and a row of valves that could rotate forward, to create a shorter direct path shorter for mid to high range. Sorry to be long! Just enthusiastically sharing like “Driveway Engineer”. Just helping. Anyone who create a CZcams channel could spend all day to answer everyone’s comments. Hope this helps!
These are just Gen 4 LS intake,you find it on the isuzu npr, nothing special. Also not all TBSS are LS but Atlas even.
Ugh the Platform GMT900 is better
That's why it's listed as the NNBS intake also.
Literally no Trailblazer SS's came with an Atlas, or anything other than a 6.0, ever, not one.
:)
tacos? thats racist !
Lame
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