Tekken 8 Character Overviews: Easiest / Hardest Characters Tier List

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  • čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
  • Shoutouts to Pro Tekken Player Landon D for helping with the vid - go follow him here: / landon__d | / landon_d_
    00:00 Intro / (Listen to this part before you comment omg) / What makes a character easy or hard?
    01:30 Alisa
    03:28 Asuka
    05:14 Azucena
    07:57 Bryan
    11:00 Claudio
    13:47 Devil Jin
    16:25 Dragunov
    18:56 Feng
    21:14 Hwoarang
    22:49 Jack-8
    25:15 Jin
    26:55 Jun
    29:06 Kazuya
    31:42 King
    33:48 Kuma / Panda
    36:26 Lars
    38:49 Law
    41:40 Lee
    43:16 Leo
    44:52 Leroy
    46:03 Lily
    48:07 Nina
    49:40 Paul
    51:24 Raven
    54:07 Reina
    56:56 Shaheen
    1:00:06 Steve
    01:02:43 Victor
    01:05:12 Xiaoyu
    01:07:41 Yoshimitsu
    01:10:32 Zafina
    01:12:14 Final thoughts / Words of wisdom
    Edited by Caste - / castehappy | Twitter: / castehappy
    Easiest / Hardest Characters to Learn in Tekken 8 | Tekken 8 Ease of Use Tier List
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  • @Diaphone
    @Diaphone  Před 5 měsíci +300

    Seriously go follow Landon for helping to carry the video - I learned so much doing this.
    Subscribe if you want to see more collabs with other top Tekken players - I've been enjoying this game SO much, going to be covering this game for a bit.
    Also should be obvious, but no order within tiers.

    • @niwona_
      @niwona_ Před 5 měsíci +1

      This is great! Probably edit the name though lol and timestamp for DJ. Nice work!

    • @lukanonymous5210
      @lukanonymous5210 Před 5 měsíci +5

      LARDON

    • @blitzcomet3607
      @blitzcomet3607 Před 5 měsíci

      Deal

    • @n.macneil
      @n.macneil Před 5 měsíci

      love his insight - he's a dope guest

    • @ZyletaSF4
      @ZyletaSF4 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Tekken 8 reminded me why I love fighting games, the last time I had similar vibrations was during sf4 era, i have already 60 hours on steam,
      sf6 and gbvr are great games, I would give them both 9/10 but there's always something that bothers me about them, with tekken 8 it's different I can't find anything I don't like and that's quite surprising especially since I'm more of a street fighter player, Tekken 8 is as great as Tekken 3 was in year 1998

  • @DoctorSoctopus
    @DoctorSoctopus Před 5 měsíci +3425

    I’ve been learning Yoshimitsu for 20 years

    • @kevincroft3087
      @kevincroft3087 Před 5 měsíci +210

      I would like to fight you online. Just to see what that looks like.

    • @CletisTheWaterbear
      @CletisTheWaterbear Před 5 měsíci +96

      This comment rocks.

    • @hgtv9303
      @hgtv9303 Před 5 měsíci +20

      😂😂😂

    • @maaramori3404
      @maaramori3404 Před 5 měsíci +47

      Ah, fellow grandmaster player

    • @Liztomaniam
      @Liztomaniam Před 5 měsíci +41

      Your the one that i would see doing wild stuff and back out 🤣😂🤣🙆 i like to keep my sanity.

  • @Cretlee
    @Cretlee Před 5 měsíci +1847

    Always remember, don't skip a character just because people say they're hard to play or because they're "a low tier character".
    Play whoever you think is fun and fits your playstyle!

    • @winspyy
      @winspyy Před 5 měsíci +70

      Almost as if tier lists are dumb... lmao

    • @mhead1117
      @mhead1117 Před 5 měsíci +111

      Ppl gonna read this comment then commit seppuku after missing their 100th electric

    • @EXISTENTRILLEST
      @EXISTENTRILLEST Před 5 měsíci +5

      except azucena

    • @BrokenNoah
      @BrokenNoah Před 5 měsíci +63

      Tier lists only matter when you are at the highest of level of play and even then rarely do high skill players have identical tier listings. It's just internet argument fodder for the rest of us plebs. For the majority, matchup knowledge is way more important.

    • @Darkerxz
      @Darkerxz Před 5 měsíci +21

      this! so much this! please pick up the hardest character, completely fail at it and then drop the game entirely and never play it again

  • @-8h-
    @-8h- Před 5 měsíci +1600

    Easy:
    Hard: all of them

    • @B.CREAT1
      @B.CREAT1 Před 5 měsíci +299

      Entire game feels like learning a fucking dictianory out of my head

    • @_zombiezone
      @_zombiezone Před 5 měsíci +116

      @@B.CREAT1literally, the second I think I’m getting the hang of things I get mixed by something I didn’t even know existed. That or I do a move I didn’t even know as well

    • @pretzels7437
      @pretzels7437 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Lol feng is insanely easy

    • @gilet102
      @gilet102 Před 5 měsíci +50

      @@_zombiezonelol that’s Tekken. There’s a lot of tools both you and your opponent can employ.

    • @ReshadSafi-pb7wv
      @ReshadSafi-pb7wv Před 5 měsíci +33

      I think the hardest aspect about Tekken is the defense

  • @arguablyokay7824
    @arguablyokay7824 Před 5 měsíci +570

    "The scary thing about fighting a bear is that you don't want a bear to get close to you." is a really good piece of advice for life in general, honestly.

    • @utarefson9
      @utarefson9 Před 29 dny +3

      Someone forgot to tell this to one half of humanity...

  • @Neltharak
    @Neltharak Před 5 měsíci +83

    ... Somehow landon just being like "hey just do this move this move and this move and you're golden" is a better character guide than 95% of the content on youtube, he should make a series

    • @pogituna
      @pogituna Před 4 měsíci +7

      basically giving the bread and butter for the characters

  • @egebamyasi2929
    @egebamyasi2929 Před 5 měsíci +477

    Been playing Dragunov and I can FEEL the power. Easy, straightforward and strong. Not even gonna pretend like my brain is working overtime. Mad fun tho.

    • @XamusTV
      @XamusTV Před 5 měsíci +91

      Bro is going crazy in strategist rank 😂

    • @adilky
      @adilky Před 5 měsíci +22

      @@XamusTV LOL unprovoked

    • @hakageryu-hz7jz
      @hakageryu-hz7jz Před 5 měsíci +17

      @@XamusTV game is full of scrubs right now.
      I don't mean just people who suck (like me), I mean people spamming the same 3 or 4 moves over and over again. Dragunovs are among the scummiest.

    • @Boozyking
      @Boozyking Před 5 měsíci +53

      @@hakageryu-hz7jzskill issue get good and maybe you won’t get spammed by the same moves 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @swolsauce9923
      @swolsauce9923 Před 5 měsíci +66

      ⁠@@hakageryu-hz7jzyea it’s expected because it’s still new. You have a lot of new players that probably never even played tekken before so they are learning. If they find something that works then of course they are going to keep using it. Scummy or not, if you lose to it that means you failed to adapt.

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Před 5 měsíci +69

    Nice video as always! Tekken fans are having a blast right now!

  • @sigma_the_enigma1394
    @sigma_the_enigma1394 Před 5 měsíci +253

    Never invested time in a fighting game before but this looks really good might actually give it a try.

    • @paulcrimson3824
      @paulcrimson3824 Před 5 měsíci +25

      I play Tekken since i was a kid. But even for new players its very worth it ! If you rly buy it. You won't regret it. And even if you strugle first you will learn it with time or watch pros. But anyway the game teaching very good too with all the single player content what it has now. And just play who ever you want.

    • @SavageRodent
      @SavageRodent Před 5 měsíci +10

      I didn't invest into a fighting game till Tekken 7. I'd recommend just learning a handful of moves at a time, and once you're confident with your knowledge of the character you're playing, look some stuff up on them like juggles and important moves. And get accustomed to losing, because you're going to get stomped. At least that was my experience when starting in T7.

    • @Sw4xDesigns
      @Sw4xDesigns Před 5 měsíci +11

      i am dogshit at fighting games but i played 13 hours over the last two days

    • @juiceeer3320
      @juiceeer3320 Před 5 měsíci

      You can try but you will cry

    • @Cutthroat__
      @Cutthroat__ Před 5 měsíci +1

      Trust me u not gonna get good it takes years and years i been playing tekken since 5 and im still learning new stuff tbh😂😂

  • @kurosaki0808
    @kurosaki0808 Před 5 měsíci +218

    I picked hworang because i remember button mashing with him on tekken 3 way back when and now i can dress him up as sanji from one piece so it’s even better

    • @user-wp7si2xn7n
      @user-wp7si2xn7n Před 5 měsíci +6

      On G thats amaing.

    • @markfufuh1014
      @markfufuh1014 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Oooh, cool idea 👍👏

    • @Perofgloves
      @Perofgloves Před 5 měsíci +4

      No way ur a hwo main and saying he’s button mashing hwo is a hard charecter to learn

    • @kurosaki0808
      @kurosaki0808 Před 5 měsíci +21

      @@Perofgloves i think you need reading glasses. I said i remembered button mashing in tekken 3.. i'm obviously putting time and effort into the character now

    • @kaskafi
      @kaskafi Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@Perofgloves hes a hard character to play properly. hes not a difficult character to get to orange/red ranks with by just mashing shit

  • @JemuzuDatsWho
    @JemuzuDatsWho Před 5 měsíci +118

    This was a very good video, and Landon's wise words of "just throw shit out" makes me feel better about starting tbh. May get this game this weekend and give it my best :)

    • @SilentMeDude
      @SilentMeDude Před 5 měsíci +5

      Do it dude! Just getting into fighting games myself this past year! Just got my pc fixed to try two fighting games out, but I’ve been playing street fighter 6(my favorite right now) mk1(dropped after the first week 😕), guilty gear, and now tekken 8! Tekken 8 feels so flipping good right now and very excited to explore my favorite characters , Steve, Kuma and Leo! This game reminds me of street fighter where every character feels unique that play. Sadly why I don’t like mk1 :/ loved mk11 tho

    • @newphonewhodis7152
      @newphonewhodis7152 Před 5 měsíci +15

      dont overthink it, sometimes u just need to hit your coolest move. Dont get fixated on wins alone and enjoy yourself, we are happy for every newcomer

    • @JayRacer
      @JayRacer Před 5 měsíci +1

      In my opinion, it’s the easiest fighter there is. The layouts are super ergonomic (top 2 are L & R punch, bottom 2 are L & R kick). The moves are the easiest in all fighting games (again, just my opinion).
      Just rotate a half hour in practice and a half hour in arcade. Or rotate a half hour in practice, then turn on the cpu in practice.

    • @SillyRobot
      @SillyRobot Před 4 měsíci

      SFV is easier, at least at a beginner level. Spend 5 minutes in practice, or just practice in between games and your set for bronze to silver.

  • @AndyNocturne
    @AndyNocturne Před 5 měsíci +4

    I loved this video so much. You guys are both wholesome af, this was just awesome

  • @wuulfay
    @wuulfay Před 5 měsíci +5

    Really amazing video and some insight per character, to have them fleshed out without having to play everything to know whats going for who. Thanks!

  • @tylermings9276
    @tylermings9276 Před 5 měsíci +31

    So glad I stuck around till the end, really needed that "atleast I have Nun chucks" line lol

  • @jon630
    @jon630 Před 5 měsíci +83

    I wasn't familiar with Landon before this, but now I'm an instant fan. Dude's energy is infectious, and he seems super knowledgeable. Ended up watching the whole thing. Already followed him on Twitch. Great vid, Dia!

  • @KrsJin
    @KrsJin Před 5 měsíci +20

    I planned to fast forward to see the list in the end but then found myself watching the whole thing.
    Thanks Diaphone and Landon for this!

    • @hm-jt3os
      @hm-jt3os Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah i didn’t even realize im 48 minutes in already

  • @halcyonflo0r952
    @halcyonflo0r952 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I love how you cover so many fighting games. Whenever a new fighting game comes out i always land on your videos completely on accident. Youve far passed earn my sub but hadn't until now 🤘

  • @bigchocolatemilk5859
    @bigchocolatemilk5859 Před 5 měsíci +386

    First Tekken game tryna learn Reina is a struggle XD

    • @lichtbach7693
      @lichtbach7693 Před 5 měsíci +133

      Mishimas can be challenging but they're cool af

    • @ExSoldier101
      @ExSoldier101 Před 5 měsíci +89

      Mishimas are difficult but so rewarding once it clicks

    • @qweqweqwadcsc
      @qweqweqwadcsc Před 5 měsíci +23

      Yeah keep lying to yourself
      A normal hit launcher df2 and hopkick makes the character a struggle to learn
      If you want true Mishima suffering, play Devil Jin or Kazuya

    • @gloominaati3105
      @gloominaati3105 Před 5 měsíci +17

      Im learning Yoshimitsu atm....so many stances. Fun as hell though

    • @Alvis44
      @Alvis44 Před 5 měsíci +72

      @@qweqweqwadcsc kaz and devil jin have tools that reina doenst have like actual lows lmao its a trade off

  • @maikelm20
    @maikelm20 Před 5 měsíci +1

    As a new Tekken player I appreciate you going through the inputs (and having the input display on).

  • @Fariorn
    @Fariorn Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very insightful Tier List! YOu did a great job with that!

  • @abnormal_titan26
    @abnormal_titan26 Před 5 měsíci +3

    been waiting for this video

  • @nichtzisch-ps2dq
    @nichtzisch-ps2dq Před 5 měsíci +5

    finally a good video on this topic from someone.landon is crazy he knows everything LMAO hes like a lexicon

  • @willfarmer9873
    @willfarmer9873 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Such great info!! First Tekken game and LOVING it

  • @amikawi
    @amikawi Před 5 měsíci +1

    Cool video. Thanks Dia and Landon!

  • @nonsequiter100
    @nonsequiter100 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Old school Tekken head here. Shaheen’s charge isn’t the first charge move in Tekken. Law had a down/up charge flip in Tekken 1. Great vid!!

  • @VocalTK
    @VocalTK Před 5 měsíci +3

    Landon happy to be called a pro for the first time ever lol.
    I know I should've expected this video for tekken since you do it for all the games you try but I didn't think it'd happen this early, ngl.

  • @HWHY
    @HWHY Před 5 měsíci +2

    Been waiting on this video for days!
    Thank you for your efforts.

  • @larrisonsteel273
    @larrisonsteel273 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Im a completely new player but raven just speaks to me man been enjoying learning him fs

  • @uruk_bye1232
    @uruk_bye1232 Před 5 měsíci +43

    Landon is hilarious, and I love the Tekken enthusiasm. Fighting game players have been eating good lately.

    • @Jonkin715
      @Jonkin715 Před 5 měsíci +6

      I been gorging on this game since I got it Tuesday night. Already clocked over 40 hrs in this game.

  • @jarrickhillery8664
    @jarrickhillery8664 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I’ve always played King in arcades bc I thought he looked cool as a kid. Tekken 8 is the first Tekken game I’ve owned and I’m excited to learn all he has in his toolkit.

  • @shinobgaming528
    @shinobgaming528 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Didn’t know how I felt at first about Diaphone doing a Tekken ranking because “how would this guy know” but I enjoyed it and I like how he brought Landon in to give experienced insight great vid🙏🏽

  • @oOYourdadOo
    @oOYourdadOo Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. Yall both are awesome for this!

  • @160maverick
    @160maverick Před 5 měsíci +62

    Man, Yoshimitsu is so hard they don't even know you CAN combo out of flash and think most of his moves are "useless" and barely know what he can do

    • @jimmyrustles1988
      @jimmyrustles1988 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Only when you get it in No sword stance or heat. I think you can get a small follow up with Sword Flash, but nothing crazy. And most of his moves aren't useless. That's the fun of the character, you use everything to mix up your opponent.

    • @felipev4077
      @felipev4077 Před 5 měsíci +4

      the most useless move is 4,4,4, shits not even a CH anymore, but its a legacy move so i understand why they wont take it out

    • @blizzard2733
      @blizzard2733 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@jimmyrustles1988 you get guarenteed b22 on sword and that engages heat so still insanely strong, most of his moves arent "useless" simply for the fact no one uses them, you can throw out lots of moves that act as a knowledge check on often times they will land. Its really nice as a yoshi main because of lot of what I know others dont, and fighting other yoshis lets me see moves that I never use optimized and its really nice to see.

    • @irshman1845
      @irshman1845 Před 5 měsíci

      @@felipev4077 Pretty decent on the wall if your are parallel to the wall.

    • @brandonmalady4425
      @brandonmalady4425 Před 5 měsíci

      Me a new player who started with Yoshi and Devil Jin. Honestly it wasn’t bad at all

  • @HiImAiden
    @HiImAiden Před 5 měsíci +7

    This video made me a fan of Landon, explains things super well, this is my first TEKKEN and I really wanna play Hworang, gave me a good sense of what I needed

  • @agustinadrianuy7498
    @agustinadrianuy7498 Před 4 měsíci

    haha this is nice. Ive seen this type of reviews on watches and its nice to see it done on tekken :)

  • @soulvagabond9655
    @soulvagabond9655 Před 5 měsíci

    This vid actually taught me a little bit about my main Shaheen, I didn't know about the forward back, or that I could do my charge while side stepping

  • @TheDankMagician
    @TheDankMagician Před 5 měsíci +32

    Diaphone, you genuinely just make some the of most in-depth, but easily digestible fighting game content there is. Thank you for making this cause I'm slightly struggling with character identity crisis lol, I want to be a Kuma player, but I know I might not have a great time in the long run and I just need to learn the fundamentals and maybe starting off with a less niche character will probably help.

    • @jamalsiddique1362
      @jamalsiddique1362 Před 5 měsíci +2

      nah bro just play kuma, you'll have more fun playing the character you want to.

    • @chumchum9899
      @chumchum9899 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Kuma legitimately terrifying to fight rn, just don't be an idiot and spam 111

    • @justaotter2085
      @justaotter2085 Před 4 měsíci +2

      u can learn fundamentals with any characters
      tone down the gimmicks and see what strengths weakness they have play around that
      try to see what players do then adapt to that
      u can learn to catch whiffs by df1 2 , sneak jabs db1,2 u can frustrate turtles with b1 , chip damage moves
      what do you do against his bad moment play patients and when they least expect it go crazy
      stance mixups are great when players respect you
      and gimmicks are fun to do from time to time just don't be too involved into them overall
      but this is stuff to be acquired gradually , Have fun and learn with your pace ,
      in the end this is a game you turn to after a tired day of work , to escape from everyday stress , have a good time , please don't let this feeling die down

  • @elijahc5331
    @elijahc5331 Před 5 měsíci +51

    Diaphone the goat forreal 🙏🏼

  • @RezDK
    @RezDK Před 3 měsíci +1

    The moment i saw reina being "hard" on thumbnail i was face palming i'm glad u guys fixed that in the vid
    👏👏

  • @LyricPluto
    @LyricPluto Před 5 měsíci

    Really insightful video, thanks!

  • @TwoyBwoy
    @TwoyBwoy Před 5 měsíci +15

    Nina is so cool, but she's definitely hard to understand at first. However, once it's clicks it all becomes easier. I play her very mixup heavy and it works. The Hayashida step is a nice tool as well.

    • @justinmour6928
      @justinmour6928 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Im a Nina main as well and I just made it to Vanquisher. What is your go-to game plan with her?!

    • @TwoyBwoy
      @TwoyBwoy Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@justinmour6928 I don't know if my other reply saved, sorry if this is repetitive, but I suppose I don't do anything too crazy different. I use her grabs probably more often than other people. She has so many it makes it easy to vary it up. Also, it's almost not fair she can cancel so many things and make them super safe. Started actually learning combos and this video (czcams.com/video/p37RwzQ0xtY/video.htmlsi=OOi_UZb_rUWtmkFC&t=1) is really good. Their new video is also good as well.

    • @TwoyBwoy
      @TwoyBwoy Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@justinmour6928 I stopped playing Tekken 7 a few years ago, so I had to get used to her again. I think she is very good in general and I think my biggest tip would be to not always worry about going for optimal stuff or flashy stuff if it's too risky. Tournament combos! lol.

    • @justinmour6928
      @justinmour6928 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TwoyBwoy hahaha yeah you’re right about that!! I’ll stay focused on the fundamentals, her pressure game, frame traps, and using those moments to bait the big 80 damage combos I have lock and loaded!! Thank you!

    • @NiteVenom
      @NiteVenom Před 5 měsíci

      Perfect opportunity to fight his ghost and find out for yourself. Might pick up some new tech​@@justinmour6928

  • @zxcvcxzzxcvcxz2717
    @zxcvcxzzxcvcxz2717 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Xiaoyu is really hard to learn if you wanna be a master on her. I was tgp we always consider so many situations, setups,okizemes and possibilities during playing

  • @reedm7619
    @reedm7619 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice video, great list too!

  • @ombrevance
    @ombrevance Před 5 měsíci +2

    8 is the first Tekken I’ve played online and at launch. Decided to main Reina and having a blast with her. She also has some great costume customizations.

  • @nickg1828
    @nickg1828 Před 5 měsíci +5

    First tekken game since ps2. Went with Jun and I haven’t looked back

  • @QuimZangui
    @QuimZangui Před 5 měsíci +15

    51:25 Finally, someone who understands the character and doesn't put him as an intermediary just because he doesn't know the character. Thanks man 🙏🏾

    • @kato093
      @kato093 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Really? The dude that said that dragunov is super easy and op? Just to say that characters with wave dash and crouch dashes are more difficult and more rewarding with stronger tools cuz they are harder to use? While raven is a baby mode crouch dash character? One of the easiest slightly complicated characters to use, while he clones, auto parries, built in crushing properties, easy mode evasion,infinite range for some moves?
      Dragunov doesn't have most tools like a good df2, good strings, good mids (awful hotboxes for mids and super slow. The only good one is CD4 and a sideways fart will let you sidestep it. A characters stance moving around gets them off axis enough to make him whiff most of his moves).
      Dragunov is strong now but only because of easy wr moves (still nowhere near like what azucena has, where she tracks with the second hit that's a high, so to avoid her we move you have to sidestep and duck super fast or whiff the first hit and dick the 2nd. Drags wr2 gets stepped super easily by a single step). And also his damage thanks to a new string coupled with the weird hit grab at the wall. Remove that and he is back to being Tekken 7 dragunov.. where he was bottom 5.

    • @killerkrok55
      @killerkrok55 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@kato093idk man bottom 5 in t7 is a stretch and besides that even if he was (and he clearly wasnt) hes still not hard to play at all. Sure there are characters that are easier to play than him but make no mistake drag is a scrub pick plain and simple. If you find it hard to win then thats on you G.

    • @kato093
      @kato093 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@killerkrok55 dragunov is a trash tier character in Tekken 7 my dude.
      The only way he had to make you duck was D2 and dealt no damage.
      His best move was wr2 and it's one of the easiest moves to sidestep.
      He had the worst wall damage in the game. His mids were atrocious and had the worst hotboxes in the whole game (high crushing moves would consistently duck under almost every single mid he had).
      He had zero tracking and the only tracking move that was consistent was D2 and df3+4 (one of the worst moves in the game).
      You can ask any pro player, they will tell you that dragunov was a joke at the end of Tekken 7.
      In Tekken 8 he is a lot stronger thanks to a strong low, better mix ups, qcf4 (A GOOD MID! FINALLY) and the damage at the wall being massively buffed.
      And no, he is not easy compared to most of the case. Be was and still is intermediate, even if a lot easier to use in Tekken 8 (I'm so sad his F3 sway cancel into 1 are not as useful anymore).
      Most scrubs hate dragunov because they suck. It's usually the same people that hate kazuya for his vortex. Usually it's victor players (let's not name names).
      But yeah, it's a surefire way to see who is a noob and who is not just asking how good dragunov is, right after asking the same question about kazuya. That one is to see if you are a complete scrub. After that, it's an Eddy question, which says if you are intermediate or lower. At least for Tekken 7.

    • @QuimZangui
      @QuimZangui Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@kato093 Bro, stay calm, I'm not talking about Dragunov but about Raven, and I don't care if he puts Raven in the easy, intermediate or difficult position, I'll continue to love the character and play with him, whatever I wanted to highlight, it's the explanation he gave about the character, because a lot of people don't understand the character, they don't give a convincing explanation and they just say "It's a character full of mixups, teleports and stuff" and puts him in the position intermediate, not because they exactly think the character is intermediate but because they don't understand the character, they don't understand the game plan behind the character.

    • @corbinmohr5977
      @corbinmohr5977 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Bro you think you know more than Landon lmao drag is easy as hell

  • @waymaker7757
    @waymaker7757 Před 5 měsíci

    yawl seem very cool, great video!

  • @gliderism
    @gliderism Před 5 měsíci

    awesome video! new to Tekken and this was helpful! subscribed :)

  • @skyboundzoo
    @skyboundzoo Před 5 měsíci +5

    Played law super casually in tekken 6 - but only played against CPUs
    Im learning steve and law this time around! i appreciate the commentary on all the characters!

  • @deleonfountain8220
    @deleonfountain8220 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I haven’t played since tekken 2. Had a tiny bit of experience with kaz in smash and hoped it would translate so I picked him up in this game and it’s a humbling experience

    • @neoinuyashafight
      @neoinuyashafight Před 5 měsíci

      I also haven't played since tekken 2. I picked up Asuka, and she is really fun. I hopped online for the first time yesterday, and I went 3 outta 7. Definitely have a LOT to work on.

    • @joesizzle10
      @joesizzle10 Před 5 měsíci

      He's not that hard, if you learn him learning other characters will be easier.

    • @codred84
      @codred84 Před 4 měsíci

      I gotten everything down except pewgf and wavedashing. I can do regular electrics and make it work. Keep pushing

  • @kyx5631
    @kyx5631 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Started with Jin to get into understanding the basics of Tekken.
    Then switched to Victor very quickly, because I loved his trailer. Not even pretending that I'm using a lot of brain power, I can spam 2 for a good portion of the match and get away with it.
    I thought about trying Leroy, but tohught he would be very hard. Thanks for the heads-up, I will look deeper into him, now.

  • @Arkoddctrl
    @Arkoddctrl Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great video, I'm maining Law and I thought he was easy! Thanks for the slide trick

  • @SoggyHotDoggy
    @SoggyHotDoggy Před 5 měsíci +29

    Speaking as someone who’s been playing some Tekken since the PS1 days, I can’t imagine picking up Reina day one as a brand new player. That’s one hell of an uphill battle.

    • @xgenkyokai
      @xgenkyokai Před 5 měsíci +2

      Ur telling me

    • @13mike11
      @13mike11 Před 5 měsíci +2

      As a new player and fighting game novice she just felt the best for me out of the characters I tried. It's a fun challenge learning her combos and about her stances.

  • @SonnyJim173
    @SonnyJim173 Před 5 měsíci +23

    Love being a character loyalist when a new game drops and they are top tier lol

    • @Edge9404
      @Edge9404 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Me with Nina.

    • @polakuu
      @polakuu Před 5 měsíci +7

      it's tierlist for how easy or hard they are to learn... not how strong they are

    • @SonnyJim173
      @SonnyJim173 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@polakuu I'm not talking about the list just speaking in general

  • @Rogue_Nave
    @Rogue_Nave Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the awesome info!

  • @mrk4510
    @mrk4510 Před 5 měsíci

    Ya Landon is Amazing. He really knows this Game so well. You were picking up the moves he said to try pretty fast. I'm Very new to Tekken and I've been using Bryan. I've figured out quite a bit playing him. I was a little let down by MK1 so this game has been filling the gap pretty well. Allot of fun. Great Video. I watched the whole thing. Thanks. 👊😎

  • @crazycubanjr
    @crazycubanjr Před 5 měsíci +17

    I’m so amazed Landon know like all the inputs for all the characters.

    • @HargunSV
      @HargunSV Před 5 měsíci +8

      hes been playing for 12 years

  • @Buhllake
    @Buhllake Před 5 měsíci +7

    this is my first Tekken game and I am trying SO hard to learn Azucena and its really rough LOL Seeing that she's easy kinda freaks me out, I feel kinda stupid. Having a lot of fun though.

  • @LiveIyCadaver
    @LiveIyCadaver Před 4 měsíci

    Landon had some verrrryyyy helpful tips good video. Also, you are adorable

  • @PaperTigerLive
    @PaperTigerLive Před 5 měsíci +1

    Fantastic vid beib

  • @arzos2603
    @arzos2603 Před 5 měsíci +89

    Well as a beginner to Tekken and being Peruvian i think Azucena seems to be a no brainer

    • @metalsadman
      @metalsadman Před 5 měsíci +18

      they need to nerf her brain dead running move, at least remove the tracking, that shit is too op I don't even play and jus spectate now but that's so infuriating to see whenever someone spams that.

    • @JadenDaJedi
      @JadenDaJedi Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@metalsadmanyeah, leave the mid plus homing running moves to Dragunov mains! We need it :)))))

    • @rejectscorner9939
      @rejectscorner9939 Před 5 měsíci +21

      @@metalsadman
      >someone who doesn’t play wants nerfs

    • @supernicral
      @supernicral Před 5 měsíci +9

      ​@@metalsadman "I don't even play" but you want a nerf I'm crying that's Twitter discourse summarized in a nutshell

    • @celzolsen8988
      @celzolsen8988 Před 5 měsíci

      so you have to subject yourself continually to a shitty game to have an opinion? idiot@@rejectscorner9939

  • @kosicamael4111
    @kosicamael4111 Před 5 měsíci +2

    if you ever feel like giving up just remember i play panda with the bumblebee outfit. Im a proud bumblebee panda main and currently vanquisher and its been 1 week or so. Have fun playing what you like.

    • @chrislabedzski9076
      @chrislabedzski9076 Před 5 měsíci

      Tbh most people rather care about the highest rank and high rank players fights and ranks in Tekken games is what is all about

  • @Claude24__
    @Claude24__ Před 5 měsíci

    Hey great vid thanks to you and landon

  • @VividlyViciousGaming
    @VividlyViciousGaming Před 5 měsíci

    Great insight!

  • @marqueeungovernable6170
    @marqueeungovernable6170 Před 5 měsíci +27

    Lee main since Tag 1 here, yeah not very beginner friendly but once muscle memory kicks in, it is smooth sailing.

    • @BillyBlakeington
      @BillyBlakeington Před 5 měsíci +4

      Muscle memory implies you're not a beginner though so that doesn't apply for new people

    • @jacobtridef48
      @jacobtridef48 Před 5 měsíci +2

      i been a Lee main since T4(3 was my first but he wasnt in it) but tbh i always imagined he was near the middle on difficulty. but after playing him for years ig id be biased cuz i have the muscle memory nowadays.

    • @theanti-hypemonitor9079
      @theanti-hypemonitor9079 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@BillyBlakeington this is exactly what he wrote

    • @MrDxfusion
      @MrDxfusion Před 5 měsíci

      Lmao is it fuck. You need to get used to the feeling of dropping combos and pickups, regardless of how good you are you will constantly be messing up with Lee.

  • @Mephi_uwu
    @Mephi_uwu Před 5 měsíci +5

    Yoshi is my main and im having a ton of fun with the silly ninja man despite his complexity

  • @OTMFTG
    @OTMFTG Před 5 měsíci

    useful stuff thanks man

  • @AMEMORYSAY0
    @AMEMORYSAY0 Před 5 měsíci

    Been waiting for your Tekken video !! Glad to see you cooked !!

  • @b4ckwoodbilly
    @b4ckwoodbilly Před 5 měsíci +38

    Diaphone is great, and Landon D is a phenomenal tekken player, but if you’re looking at this video for the actual difficulty tier list, this one is NOT the move💀

    • @LethalAscend
      @LethalAscend Před 5 měsíci +1

      Where to go

    • @Yorkeh
      @Yorkeh Před 5 měsíci

      @@LethalAscend
      Fergus's character introductions are pretty useful imo. Just google "tekken 8 fergus characters overview reddit" and it should be the first result that shows up

    • @riki4404
      @riki4404 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ahahah mad cause your main is easy eh?

    • @b4ckwoodbilly
      @b4ckwoodbilly Před 5 měsíci

      @@riki4404 I actually play Bryan and Lee💀 but go off lil dude

    • @Itsallover57
      @Itsallover57 Před 5 měsíci +6

      ​@@riki4404proud cause yours is "hard"? 😂😂😂

  • @Tentacl
    @Tentacl Před 5 měsíci +3

    Man, you chose the right dude to invite, not only he knows his stuff but he's GREAT at explaining. Kudos.

  • @slowmotion8731
    @slowmotion8731 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Law has been my main since the beginning. This new tekken is fantastic

  • @TacDonut
    @TacDonut Před 5 měsíci +1

    First time Tekken player here and I used Reina for all of arcade quest and went through it no problem. It was very fun too! I didn’t even know she had the wave dash wind god stuff until after I was finished with it.

  • @Valaurentine
    @Valaurentine Před 5 měsíci +7

    Kazuya having PEWGF and his 31df, f cancels makes him the hardest mishima alone. He also relies heavily on execution with ewgf being one of his most used punishes. I'd say hes top 3 hardest.

    • @RR35031
      @RR35031 Před 2 měsíci

      Lol sure. kazuya is hurr durr 50/50 or ewgf

  • @wasabi_panda2364
    @wasabi_panda2364 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I wanted to play Nina but I heard she's "very complicated", I played and enjoyed I-no and people said the same thing. Tried her, looked at her move list. my head exploded and yeeeah I'm now playing Coffee lady. I'll go back to nina when I get more comfortable with the basics.

  • @Over9k420
    @Over9k420 Před 5 měsíci

    Highly debated picking up tekken 8 as all the homies played 7 (i have like 20 hours logged into 7 learning paul [friend said he was reminiscent of captain falcon in melee]). This video helped a ton! I just finally got a mayflash arcade stick and im ready for them to whoop my ass while i learn! Liked and subbed!

    • @omaisgee123
      @omaisgee123 Před 4 měsíci

      I've mained Paul for like 10 years, his inputs may be simple, but his linear game plan and lack of panic moves/strings make him extremely difficult at higher levels. You pretty much have to play flawlessly, defensively and punishment wise just to get a round. This also makes him satisfying to play.

  • @Evilj82
    @Evilj82 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Yoshi has some fun optimal combos. I’ve never had to micro backdash and sidestep during my combos until Yoshi.

  • @UgandalfTheBrown
    @UgandalfTheBrown Před 5 měsíci +3

    I like how Landon is the only one that still thinks Law is on a harder side to play, opposite to the whole "they made DSS easy so now the character is easy to play" sentiment. It really is all about timing
    His WS4 into DSS moves are still tricky to do perfectly and CH WS4 into DSS 3+4 4 is still really hard to do and even harder to time with the new input

  • @blob1406
    @blob1406 Před 5 měsíci +33

    You rated some characters on their skill ceiling, and some others on their skill floor. List feels weirdly inconsistent.

  • @JBurky15
    @JBurky15 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I'm happy to say that I've been playing Yoshi since T1 and still don't fully understand him, so he is well deserving of the title of hardest character in the game lol.

  • @feqol
    @feqol Před 5 měsíci

    man i was expecting a longer breakdown on lee, he's my fav

  • @BrokenNoah
    @BrokenNoah Před 5 měsíci +15

    1:07:46 "...two thirds of his move is useless..."
    I wouldn't call a lot of his moves as straight up useless but rather situational. If you rely only on a few of Yoshi's moves and you get predictable, you're dead more so than a lot of other characters. A lot of his moves are high risk/okay rewards but even above the noob ranks, throwing them randomly can catch people sleeping. A lot of his situational moves are used to setup his actual useful ones. He's a good knowledge check character.

    • @Jonkin715
      @Jonkin715 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Excellent description of the character.

  • @jacobkoberstein9793
    @jacobkoberstein9793 Před 5 měsíci +4

    You actually do get a full combo from flash in No Sword Stance or in heat mode. Nice video tough, quality work.

  • @stuckwchuck
    @stuckwchuck Před 14 hodinami

    Coming back to this video 5 months later and no one articulates the logic of a Feng player quick like Landon has here. I am not good, but the more I learn about the game and my main, the better I understand how everything works. It's a true mountain to learn Feng since you need to know almost ALL 100+ moves & movement to make him the monster that people say he is.

  • @soyhunter7600
    @soyhunter7600 Před 5 měsíci

    I picked up Hwoarang because I like how his combos are based around kicks. Looks sick. Gotta learn Paul though for my younger self playing tekken 3 in ‘99!

  • @TheCynicalJay
    @TheCynicalJay Před 5 měsíci +4

    Grew up on Soul Calibur, so sink or swim, I'm maining Yosh! It is my first Tekken however lol

    • @BrokenNoah
      @BrokenNoah Před 5 měsíci +1

      As a fellow Yoshi main, good luck and party hard.

    • @MCBwasabii
      @MCBwasabii Před 4 měsíci +1

      Never forget to party! Your opponent will be expecting you to fight seriously

  • @SageLykos
    @SageLykos Před 5 měsíci +4

    Maining Leo because I love the way they look and feel. As a new Tekken player it is definitely a challenge. I've been having more fun than any other fighting game I have played though.

  • @VariantNYC
    @VariantNYC Před 5 měsíci

    excellent video

  • @maximus0928
    @maximus0928 Před 5 měsíci

    Go fig my favorites will be hard but at least they’ll be less popular so there’s that. Really excited about this roster!

  • @shardulaswal2200
    @shardulaswal2200 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Yoshimitsu mentioned raaaaaaaaaahhh 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @azuuku
    @azuuku Před 5 měsíci +91

    under one minute crew rise up

    • @roboticgentlemen1970
      @roboticgentlemen1970 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Under 30 min gang like this

    • @Beans113
      @Beans113 Před 5 měsíci +7

      I’ll have my wife vouch for me but I promise I’m an under one minute man.

    • @mhead1117
      @mhead1117 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Bro is king of the never touching grass squad

    • @yhaerysthethird6088
      @yhaerysthethird6088 Před 5 měsíci

      Why is this a flex? Being the first in a video is the stupidest and most no life thing ever

    • @azuuku
      @azuuku Před 5 měsíci

      @@mhead1117 I just happened to refresh my youtube at the most opportune time.

  • @sofiaruthana5301
    @sofiaruthana5301 Před 4 měsíci +1

    when i study tekken more than i study at school, this game is so hard, but it is fun although I get insane from time to time.

  • @majones117
    @majones117 Před 5 měsíci +2

    "if you like rhythm games, try Lee." That is actually very accurate. I love his just frames

  • @natyinc9611
    @natyinc9611 Před 5 měsíci +7

    As a former Tekken 7 Feng main, the character is easy as fuck. Yes, you should know how to apply every move of his - but that goes for every other character. Want a free, easy gameplan? Here you go: DF1, B4, B1, DB3, SS4, UF2, DF3, and use his jab a lot.
    Would you like to be plus? B3 is a new i22 mid that's +6 on block. Want to prevent opponents from pressing? When minus, simply choose one of the following: kenpo (B3+4), BF1, B1, 1+2 (sabaki), or do some high crush move like DB3. Speaking of broken lows - is DB3 not enough for you? Go with QCF1: a i22, -14 on block, +2 on hit, launch on counter-hit low that's immune to low parry and has high-crush, or just go for SS4 (i21, clean-hit launching low).
    Feng has ZERO mechanical skill involved (the hardest thing you can do in combos is dashing jabs, delaying F,(F)4,3, or doing side-steps for realignment), most of his moves are either cracked or average at worst, and he has counters for almost every conceivable situation. Feng is easy af, don't be gaslit into believing that he takes much effort to play.

    • @keaton3258
      @keaton3258 Před 5 měsíci

      This almost reads as a salt post lmao, all characters take a ton of effort to play at higher levels

    • @Edicted.
      @Edicted. Před 5 měsíci

      DF1 0 on block D4 0 on hit, imminent CH B1 trade go brrrr
      FR though Feng insanely simple to play since T7

  • @Wingnut202
    @Wingnut202 Před 5 měsíci +22

    I think its very hard to justify putting Reina, a full mishima with perfect electrics, more just frames than all the other Mishimas, mandatory stance transitions that you must learn as a beginner because they come from your bread and butter punishes, with options that will get you killed if you don't know what you're doing, and 3 seperate (technically 5, but its really 3) stances, in average, because she has a ff2 with some fake pressure if your opponent doesn't know how to duck it...
    Especially with Nina, a NOTORIOUS scrub killer with easy strings that will demolish an opponent who doesn't know them, in the harder tier. Seems like its a bit inconsistent.

    • @reinventing5633
      @reinventing5633 Před 5 měsíci

      nina's strings have been nerfed i belive, she no longer has plus on block strings but i do agree with you on Reina

    • @nofuccerino6025
      @nofuccerino6025 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I mean, wanna talk about Jin and Reina in the tier below Kazuya? When kazuya is hands down the easiest mishima, people still act like doing electrics is hard.

    • @unverifiedverified4418
      @unverifiedverified4418 Před 5 měsíci

      yea, putting king on easy, wtf... all the females are toxic super sonic speed, that B.A. lars too.

    • @mag51284
      @mag51284 Před 5 měsíci

      Almost every tekken character I've played has ewgf input in their kit somewhere, its not a crazy move like you said@@nofuccerino6025 I play king and ewgf before the RDC grabs. EWGF is just a shoryuken with a neutral in the middle practically

    • @Eanakba
      @Eanakba Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah, i think she's like heihachi but more complicated, at least as hard as dvj with how ass her lows are

  • @arzog6446
    @arzog6446 Před 4 měsíci

    don´t even know why i like those tier list videos, i never care about how hard or top tier a character is... all that matters to me is the style and fun factor xD

  • @uzla
    @uzla Před 5 měsíci

    This video is is gonna hit 500k quick

  • @memelord8325
    @memelord8325 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Tell me you don’t play Lili without telling you don’t play Lili💀

    • @alan133
      @alan133 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Take 30 minute to an hour learning her matchup/mixup and you shut down 90% of her stuff and Lili is forced to play defensive. She does have an easier time in T8 because she no longer feels all in-ish with those additional safe moves now where before she's pretty all in.

    • @memelord8325
      @memelord8325 Před 5 měsíci

      @@FrozenFacade 100% agree with u

  • @blitzcomet3607
    @blitzcomet3607 Před 5 měsíci +10

    How was Diaphone the first to make this

    • @FrozenJohn12
      @FrozenJohn12 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Mainman didn't do a tier list but he did something similar day 1

  • @parksss2068
    @parksss2068 Před 4 měsíci

    i picked up tekken for the first time last week and started playing raven off rip. glad to now know my struggling is for good purpose!

  • @Fluffabutt
    @Fluffabutt Před 5 měsíci

    God I’ve been waiting for Jun since Tekken 2 and then finally tag 2. I just wanna play her again