Math Caught $1 Million Dollar Fraud

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  • čas přidán 15. 12. 2021
  • “... for the root of all evils is the love of money,” states the First Epistle of Paul to Timothy -- and no woman in 19th century America exemplifies that more than Hetty Green. She was a remarkable, talented financier who built an empire and forged headways for women in business. But in 1865, Hetty revealed the true depths of her greed when she orchestrated a will forgery that would pave the way for the use of mathematical analysis in the courtroom.
    Hetty produced a copy of her Aunt Sylvia’s will leaving everything to her. It was suspicious, but no one could use math to prove it. Benjamin and Charles Peirce could, however, show that it was beyond statistically improbable that every feature of Sylvia Howland’s supposed signature was a perfect match to another sample. There’s a 1 in a million chance, and then there’s 1 in a sextillion -- and their analysis of graphonomic probability showed without a doubt that one of the most successful women in American history had engaged in forgery to satisfy her own personal greed.
    The meticulous analysis of downward handwriting strokes, the calculation and application of standard deviation, and explaining the utterly shocking scale of a coincidence proved that Hetty was a fake. And while math is often misapplied in the courtroom, exposing Hetty Green’s terrible attempt to defraud her own family marked an opportunity to use probability to get to the truth.
    ** SOURCES **
    Meier, P., & Zabell, S. (1980). Benjamin Peirce and the Howland Will. Journal of the American Statistical Association, 75(371), 497-506.
    "The Howland Will Case", American Law Review, vol. 4, p. 625 (1870)
    “Hetty: The Genius and Madness of America's First Female Tycoon.” Charles Slack (2005)
    “The Richest Woman in America: Hetty Green in the Gilded Age.” Janet Wallach (2013)
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Komentáře • 557

  • @Vsauce2
    @Vsauce2  Před 2 lety +587

    Remember I want your answer to the odds of a 7.989 standard deviation. And thanks to Morning Brew for giving me a news brief in less time than it takes to forge my Aunt Sylvia's will. Sign up for free here: bit.ly/mbvsauce2

    • @maffy542
      @maffy542 Před 2 lety +6

      Love your video

    • @disneydaniel233
      @disneydaniel233 Před 2 lety +4

      The number of the lady who is in there are you doing the same with the number one of the kids that you do with sentret

    • @kartavayajain_3108
      @kartavayajain_3108 Před 2 lety +3

      You are a genius bro and i like your videos as they are logical interesting and knowledgeable for me as i m in 12th standard... Love from India🇮🇳

    • @DTinkerer
      @DTinkerer Před 2 lety +3

      I am actually curious about the answer !so I am commenting to get notifications.

    • @fiqusonnick
      @fiqusonnick Před 2 lety +63

      6.8e-16 ≈ 1/1.47e15
      or one in one quadrillion, four hundred and seventy trillion

  • @shrimpbisque
    @shrimpbisque Před 2 lety +1164

    The ironic thing about all this is, if she had been sloppy in tracing her aunt's signature, she probably would have gotten away with it.

    • @acookie7548
      @acookie7548 Před 2 lety +32

      it’s possible she’s gotten away with it before, then.

    • @nguyenkhanhhailinh1721
      @nguyenkhanhhailinh1721 Před 2 lety +24

      But, if she was sloppy, she had to be consistent with her sloppyness

    • @varunjoshi7887
      @varunjoshi7887 Před 2 lety +51

      @Daniel Kavanagh exactly..... Her mistake was high accuracy. A little sloppiness would have favoured her substantially

    • @haroerhaktak2613
      @haroerhaktak2613 Před 2 lety +14

      @Daniel Kavanagh Yes that's the problem. Had she made a few mistakes, maybe angled the lines a bit, she would've gotten away with it.

    • @joshyoung1440
      @joshyoung1440 Před 2 lety +7

      We know, we watched the video.

  • @thegatorhator6822
    @thegatorhator6822 Před 2 lety +1616

    "How consistent is a signature?"
    Actually an interesting ask. I've been turned down multiple times from services because mine never even closely look the same.

    • @sianmilne4879
      @sianmilne4879 Před 2 lety +58

      Perhaps simplify it? Use your initials or sm? 😂

    • @Sheridantank
      @Sheridantank Před 2 lety +88

      Basic cursive with a couple unique touches is a good way to sign. For example, I combine the first letter of my last and first name. The letters are B and P and I combine them similarly to how the E and B are combined in the Bugatti logo. This makes a clearly intentional way to sign that you would have to know and wouldn't be able to make up.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 2 lety +88

      That's why my signature is just a straight line. Looks the exact same, every time.

    • @raynemichelle2996
      @raynemichelle2996 Před 2 lety +68

      My signature is just an X because I'm illiterate

    • @cubing7276
      @cubing7276 Před 2 lety +62

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 and pretty easily forged

  • @jsCP94
    @jsCP94 Před 2 lety +1875

    I do like that Kevin distinguished between this case and the previous ones, saying that all the facts of this case makes it different from the other two cases, where very rare and low probabilities were involved. At first, I was thinking "Wait, what if the signature match was also a coincidence that actually occurred, and maybe the aunt did have a legitimate earlier will?" I'm glad I waited until the vid ended before commenting lol.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation Před 2 lety +97

      Dream: I like these odds

    • @theboss-by5gd
      @theboss-by5gd Před 2 lety +14

      @@RGC_animation lol

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 2 lety +17

      This is a series about criminal forensics as much as it's about math, and he came to a conclusion that applies really well.

    • @kendomyers
      @kendomyers Před 2 lety +12

      I like to comment before watching the video meself. Pass quick, uniformed judgement.
      Mostly, I share ignorant opinions and feel an emotional connection to them, so I hold on to my false opinions for dear life when challenged.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation Před 2 lety +2

      @@kendomyers Please tell me you have watched the video before commenting that.

  • @Draxis32
    @Draxis32 Před 2 lety +1068

    Dream: *fake speedrun*
    Me, today: "Such evanescent shadows of probability cannot belong to actual Minecraft"

    • @j.21
      @j.21 Před 2 lety +27

      There's a video made by Karl Jobst talking about Dream's cheat in more detail.
      Video title: Dream's Cheating Confession: Uncovering The Truth

    • @Kurszt
      @Kurszt Před 2 lety +35

      @@j.21 Not necessary but the gist of this is "Dream unintentionally used a mod that boosts the drop rate of items necessary to beat the game to his speedruns that he normally uses for his content."

    • @asdbanz316
      @asdbanz316 Před 2 lety +14

      @@Kurszt Still cheating tho. He's contentmaker, not an actual speedrunner.

    • @ttmfndng201
      @ttmfndng201 Před 2 lety +23

      @@asdbanz316 He was also a speedrunner though.

    • @_Moralle
      @_Moralle Před 2 lety +3

      @@j.21 Not gonna lie, Karl's videos on MC are his worst content imo, since he hasn't really properly delved into the matter and doesn't know everything that's possible. Generally he knows what he's talking about, just not for Minecraft

  • @hieronymusnervig8712
    @hieronymusnervig8712 Před 2 lety +203

    There's also a really big difference in convicting someone for prison or deciding who receives an inheritance. In one case, you're potentially ruining a live without gain, in the other case you simply decide who between two parties receives a benefit.

    • @fragileomniscience7647
      @fragileomniscience7647 Před 2 lety +8

      This could have been prevented if there was a written proof of her signing this thing and depositing it in a central bank to known persons with shared access.
      Then if anyone came up with such a testament out of nowhere, it would have to have a verifying letter in the central bank, else it'd be invalid.
      Such, it would never even have occurred, since the person who could testament never wrote a verifying letter with discrete shared access to the witnesses, nor is she alive to be accounted for it.
      Relevance?
      I'm delevoping a new justice paradigm based on mathematical logic. Previously unsecured transactions become self-verifying like a logical hamming code.

    • @jasonnelson9141
      @jasonnelson9141 Před rokem +1

      Dude, it was the early 20th century.

  • @Basswaite_2
    @Basswaite_2 Před 2 lety +590

    Ok so seeing standard deviation used in a real life setting is something in wasn’t expecting to see today but now here we are. Thank you Kevin for another banger video

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 Před 2 lety +38

      Youre joking right it has applications in literally every field

    • @Basswaite_2
      @Basswaite_2 Před 2 lety +6

      @@melody3741 yes hahaha it was a joke

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Basswaite_2 okay sorry 😥 im not good at telling

    • @Basswaite_2
      @Basswaite_2 Před 2 lety +4

      @@melody3741 no worries at all!

    • @trspanda2157
      @trspanda2157 Před 2 lety

      Jesus loves us all that's why he died for our sins,.

  • @therealjammit
    @therealjammit Před 2 lety +33

    If she changed it from 50/50 but to 70/30 no one might have thought twice about it.

  • @ShortHax
    @ShortHax Před 2 lety +442

    Who else thought Kevin was gonna bust Elizabeth Holmes using math

    • @muskact4450
      @muskact4450 Před 2 lety +7

      what happened to your checkmark?

    • @ababababaababbba
      @ababababaababbba Před 2 lety +7

      I thought kevin was gonna bust too

    • @j.21
      @j.21 Před 2 lety +5

      your verified mark disappeared??

    • @Provitia
      @Provitia Před 2 lety +1

      @@muskact4450 i thought he was fake

    • @bearpoop720
      @bearpoop720 Před 2 lety +1

      What happened to ur checkmark ik its u but what happened

  • @MrLeeFTW
    @MrLeeFTW Před 2 lety +161

    You've really found your footing in these videos, Kevin. They're getting such a great reception. Kudos.

  • @BytebroUK
    @BytebroUK Před 2 lety +45

    When I left school, I had a job for a year or so in my local Unemployment Benefit Office aka Dole Office, as a clerk processing "Fresh Claims". Every document the claimant submitted had to be countersigned or initialled by me. I quickly found out that if I had missed a document, one of my colleagues in the back office would forge my initials on the form or whatever. In his head, he was doing both the claimant and myself a favour by making sure the claimant got what was due, and that I didn't get a bollocking for not signing off the forms correctly. My head still rings with "Yes, but.....!!"

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD Před 2 lety +14

      "...that's gotta be some form of illegal, somewhere"

    • @JusticeBurpees
      @JusticeBurpees Před 2 lety +15

      Indian law student here. We're taught, people must have a "guilty mind" while committing a crime. A criminal liability is different from a civil liability. The concept of 'mens rea' (guilty mind) is important in determining guilt or innocence of a said person.

  • @lafcursiax
    @lafcursiax Před 2 lety +90

    Brilliant follow-up to the previous videos about the misuse of forensic mathematics! And a fascinating story in its own right-- I'd read about Hetty Green as a child, but didn't know this part of her life.

  • @Revo5660
    @Revo5660 Před 2 lety +161

    Finally, a worthy opponent for Scrooge McDuck and Mr. Crabs.

  • @jaydenchundanga6318
    @jaydenchundanga6318 Před 2 lety +180

    I love that Kevin has become Sherlock Homey, I like maths and now solve crimes, and love this series. Keep it up!

  • @Rebelnightwolfe
    @Rebelnightwolfe Před 2 lety +26

    If Mr. Krabs and Mr. Burns had a daughter. It would be this woman.

  • @auroreo777
    @auroreo777 Před 2 lety +5

    she just had Dream luck

  • @victorquiroz3409
    @victorquiroz3409 Před 2 lety +16

    Awesome video! I hope you enjoy making these videos as you did the last set of quirky math proofs

  • @Trentkobe
    @Trentkobe Před 2 lety +19

    Matt Parker from Stand-Up Maths went over human odds in a series of videos. He came up with the "Ten Billion Human Second Century". He outlines the comparison in the first minute of his "How did the 'impossible' Perfect Bridge Deal happen?". I highly recommend watching that and the previous video to see him outline at what point insane odds become 'humanly impossible', as at a certain point all large numbers just kind of go over your head and you can't really fathom them.

    • @MrRogordo
      @MrRogordo Před 2 lety +3

      If anyone find this comment and has time, they should check out the whole video about the Minecraft speedrun controversy. Brilliant stuff

  • @snowballeffect7812
    @snowballeffect7812 Před 2 lety +88

    The signatures matching is still more likely than dream not cheating

    • @j.21
      @j.21 Před 2 lety +2

      There's a video made by Karl Jobst talking about Dream's cheat in more detail.
      Video title: Dream's Cheating Confession: Uncovering The Truth

    • @brandonbombplays9304
      @brandonbombplays9304 Před 2 lety +9

      He cheated but said it was accidentally.
      He also admitted he meant to cheat with the mod in his manhunts.

    • @reuben4721
      @reuben4721 Před 2 lety

      @@brandonbombplays9304 But was there proof he was cheating with this in the manhunts to show he meant to have used it for the manhunts and not the speedrun

    • @brandonbombplays9304
      @brandonbombplays9304 Před 2 lety +4

      @@reuben4721 that is irrelevant. I just said he admitted he cheated, but said it was accidentally because he left the mod in his folder by accident.

    • @reuben4721
      @reuben4721 Před 2 lety +5

      @@brandonbombplays9304 how do we know it was "by accident" though. And the cheating was noticed right after he said in discord that he was angry about the drops he was getting. I guess it would make him seem like a bit of pshycopath with all of the lying he did in the cheating scandal so i guess people are believing its an accident

  • @RedLeader327
    @RedLeader327 Před 2 lety +39

    Love this series. So glad you’re continuing on. Math can do so much, damb

  • @RGC_animation
    @RGC_animation Před 2 lety +48

    Sylvia left over 99% of the fortune to charity, respect 100.

  • @ThePeekaboo777
    @ThePeekaboo777 Před 2 lety

    Pleeeeaae keep these coming!!! My new fav series on CZcams :)))

  • @tygovaneerd3544
    @tygovaneerd3544 Před 2 lety +5

    Please keep doing these videos, I love them!

  • @Catalina27
    @Catalina27 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for posting ❗️

  • @haikdanielyan
    @haikdanielyan Před 2 lety +3

    And as always, thanks for the video.

  • @spicy7724
    @spicy7724 Před 2 lety +14

    Great series you got going on. Keep up the great work!

  • @pinkace
    @pinkace Před 2 lety +8

    I love this series :) more please!

  • @Readera
    @Readera Před 2 lety +3

    Enjoyed this video. Thanks !

  • @jakenaylor
    @jakenaylor Před 2 lety +2

    Love your videos, Kevin! Wishing you a great year ahead! :)

  • @Gamesaucer
    @Gamesaucer Před 2 lety +70

    Basically: use probability as the final nail in the coffin, not as the foundation for a case?
    Probability is circumstantial, and while (contrary to popular belief) it's possible to convict someone on circumstantial evidence alone, what you're looking for in that case are things that, coming together independently, fit into a pattern. This forms a strong foundation for a case, rather than your evidence being stacked haphazardly on top of each other like you're playing Jenga.
    When you _start_ with probability as the core of a case without compensating for how the result biases the investigation going forward, you're going to be building a Jenga tower that can come crashing down at any time, because whatever you find next will _rely_ on that first result being correct to make any sense. And while independently intersecting coincidences make you _more_ confident that you're correct, if those coincidences _depend_ on one another due to factors that cause bias, the probability of being _incorrect_ rises dramatically.
    A shoddy case like described above is essentially like a chain: if there's a weak link in it, that's where it snaps, and all the effort you put in after that point is not just wasted, but outright misleading, since you fit it to an incorrect assumption. The more links a chain like that has, the more likely that at least one will fail, even if they're all decently strong. Making sure your evidence arises independently does not lengthen an unreliable chain, but creates parallel connections that strengthen the core of your case.

  • @Cracks094
    @Cracks094 Před 2 lety

    Watching this on new year's eve
    guten rutsch, Kevin!

  • @djhollowpoint
    @djhollowpoint Před 2 lety +22

    Really loving these deep-dive forensic analysis videos, keep em coming!

  • @adamfelix6659
    @adamfelix6659 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome man. Base message is spot-on

  • @FriendlyTume
    @FriendlyTume Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you Kevin! This video made it way easier to fake your signature thanks to all those you showed and explaining

  • @justcarcrazy
    @justcarcrazy Před 2 lety

    Brilliant video! Thanks for this.

  • @rawblurry9871
    @rawblurry9871 Před 2 lety +1

    You should create more videos like that, i love ittt! I can't believe i listen to you more than to my prof 😁

  • @dylanlasher5930
    @dylanlasher5930 Před 2 lety +7

    I wonder how they reasoned out the assumptions needed for a specific probability distribution. I can't imagine their data would be that robust. 🤔

  • @HamedEmine
    @HamedEmine Před 2 lety +88

    In a world where "dark mode" is thriving, Vsauce2 decided that adding a camera flash visual effect was the right thing to do... My eyes.... MY EYES...

  • @BrickTsar
    @BrickTsar Před 2 lety +6

    Really enjoying these videos on math with real life consequences

  • @MrMikidude
    @MrMikidude Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, more like these please!

  • @Keijo_
    @Keijo_ Před 2 lety +4

    "VSauce, Kevin here, and I'm about to BUST"

  • @shaoran1026
    @shaoran1026 Před 2 lety +6

    The odds of the signature being an exact match was 100 time less likely than ten billion second human century, so yeah that was impossible.

  • @seriouslyWeird
    @seriouslyWeird Před 2 lety +1

    That was the silliest attempt of fraud i've ever seen

  • @NobleRanger
    @NobleRanger Před 2 lety

    The cinematography of this episode is really good.

  • @hdew12354
    @hdew12354 Před 2 lety +4

    me: (overcharges a customer by a penny)
    my brain: (realizes)
    also my brain: The Fraud Caught by Math

  • @notnowliberty
    @notnowliberty Před 2 lety +1

    Once again, an excellent video.

  • @metalxhead
    @metalxhead Před 2 lety +9

    One of my philosophy profs always pronounced C.S. Peirce's name as "purse" instead of "pierce" (probably because of its spelling?) and that is what I most remember from his class. I don't even know if it's the right pronunciation, but it's what I have taken from that class.

  • @jointscript
    @jointscript Před 2 lety +2

    I like this new style of stories

  • @narre71
    @narre71 Před 2 lety +5

    Anyone else who thought Hetty was gonna pull some underhanded shit by naming her daughter Sylvia, after her late aunt? I was just waiting for Kevin to say, "even in death, Hetty managed to squeeze more money out"

  • @adamsteeber
    @adamsteeber Před 2 lety +7

    7:13
    R programming:
    f

    • @jordanr.2120
      @jordanr.2120 Před 2 lety +2

      Legendary. Glad someone did the hard work I don't have the skillset nor attention span for

  • @lucretius8050
    @lucretius8050 Před 2 lety +6

    I won't be surprised if robots can eventually clone your signature up to the amount of pressure in your strokes.

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 Před 2 lety +1

      You just describe printer

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 Před 2 lety +3

      bro i can’t even clone my own signature

    • @GalvakzaMusic
      @GalvakzaMusic Před 2 lety

      Or better yet, copy is it but make it a little different, with the exact amount of believable variance. Now that's scary!

  • @MudakTheMultiplier
    @MudakTheMultiplier Před 2 lety +2

    Worth noting that forensic handwriting analysis is no longer considered legitimate.

  • @daviddurbin3249
    @daviddurbin3249 Před 2 lety

    One of the best videos you have made

  • @cggc9510
    @cggc9510 Před rokem +1

    US State voting committees need to watch this video. They might finally learn that any one signature is not going to be the same from one sample to the next. This might prompt them to finally remove it from voter registration cards.

  • @Mermaider
    @Mermaider Před 2 lety

    Good video 👍
    Thanks

  • @crelos3549
    @crelos3549 Před 2 lety +2

    Good thing my teachers didn't know that in high school, cause I always made sure to make a perfect match

  • @Bustelicous
    @Bustelicous Před 2 lety +7

    I loved the comparison to the other cases at the end. I think this is also the reason why she was never convicted of fraud because the standard of proof is much higher than in civil court and they would have needed more concrete evidence that she made the forgery herself.

  • @riverw4721
    @riverw4721 Před 2 lety

    I've had to re-do my signature for stuff because it wasn't close enough to what is was being compared to

  • @panameadeplm
    @panameadeplm Před 2 lety +1

    This is an amazing series, Kevin!

  • @highvis_supply
    @highvis_supply Před 2 lety +1

    They could have just aligned both pages and shined a light through it

  • @jasonsong86
    @jasonsong86 Před 2 lety +4

    It's very interesting. I have signed my name 20-30 times when I need to and they don't match at all. It's almost impossible to sign your name the same over and over.

  • @GameTimeWhy
    @GameTimeWhy Před 2 lety +1

    This was a really interesting case.

  • @wayanjonathanschiwietz2486

    I thought she would have faked the signature too bad but I never thought about it beeing to good. So I was confused about the huge standard deviations in Kevins signature. I guess they are plenty of other ways to compare signatures? Like loops and other types of strokes

  • @MrTruehoustonian
    @MrTruehoustonian Před 2 lety +1

    Now this video and the other three videos like this one is why I re-subscribed to the Vsauce2 channel freaking great video Kevin, Bravo good show sir

  • @wmgthilgen
    @wmgthilgen Před 2 lety +2

    Any and all wills are subject to being probated. Though the courts and lawyers end up getting the bulk of a probated will, a significant amout such as it was during this event would have still been quite extensive.

  • @fpsmage
    @fpsmage Před 2 lety

    was the background music you used in the beginning of this video from the game Death's Door?

  • @Caslux00
    @Caslux00 Před 2 lety +2

    Nobody's going to point out why someone would void all future wills, and then make a future will?

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD Před 2 lety

      Was going to say that! Not just that but who would lock out their future decisions rather than just choosing not to make said decision?

    • @asdbanz316
      @asdbanz316 Před 2 lety +2

      If they suspect that someone will force them. Or due to paranoia or brain problems.

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD Před 2 lety +1

      @@asdbanz316: Reasonable point to be fair, though at the same time I can't help thinking that you're then shifting the question forward to be "is someone forcing you to make this will now?" Similarly for the sound mind part too!

  • @sepiasmith5065
    @sepiasmith5065 Před 2 lety

    My signature can vary pretty wildly. Some letters disappear and sometimes I draw some letters slightly differently. I sometimes get a bit nervous thinking about someone doubting it

  • @driedpotatoes
    @driedpotatoes Před 2 lety +22

    CZcams: This is controversial
    Kevin: No. Have some more.

  • @michaelwang1730
    @michaelwang1730 Před 2 lety +1

    Basically secretly teaching us statistics, 1 day after my AP Statistics final at school. Convenient.

  • @nataliedepriest9113
    @nataliedepriest9113 Před 2 lety +11

    This video makes me appreciate my high school statistics class so much. Thirty years later and here I am watching videos featuring standard deviation.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 Před 2 lety +1

      I love to recommend youtubers who commit to science and education.
      May I?

  • @Catalina27
    @Catalina27 Před 2 lety

    You really made this one count

  • @rzeka
    @rzeka Před 2 lety +5

    VSAUCE Kevin here and I'm about to bust

  • @laurendoe168
    @laurendoe168 Před 2 lety +3

    This video is almost in stark contrast to a VSauce video I just got done watching that explained using probability to prove something is not always as "cut and dry" as it seems. Whenever some "expert" claims that a probability is "one in a gazillion" (gazillion = some number over one million), my red flags start going up.

  • @Maria-hk7bj
    @Maria-hk7bj Před 2 lety

    That courtroom was a clash of titans Jesus Christ

  • @ilexdiapason
    @ilexdiapason Před 2 lety

    im literally learning about charles peirce at university rn thats crazy

  • @Edwiyin
    @Edwiyin Před 2 lety

    The most criminal thing i have done is that i didn’t realize that Kevin is left handed

  • @tigeroyer7789
    @tigeroyer7789 Před 2 lety

    The auto generated chapters had me flabbergasted.

  • @centerpoint2844
    @centerpoint2844 Před 2 lety

    Now that's a title worth clicking

  • @mahmeh2598
    @mahmeh2598 Před 2 lety

    On my break of studying for statistic exam and this comes up haha

  • @screenwriterjohn
    @screenwriterjohn Před měsícem

    Green was actually a Quaker, so she didn't believe in fancy dress.
    She was a civil war nurse and antibiotics weren't invented yet, so she thought she could fix the son's leg herself. The leg was going to go anyway.

  • @dogvetusa
    @dogvetusa Před 2 lety

    The beginning of the in vid ad has a flaw, doom scrolling doesn't end.

  • @sidleyparkhermit6391
    @sidleyparkhermit6391 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for this wild story. One so rarely hears of women in the field of "weird, mean super-genius who wears the same thing every day"

  • @goldhover409
    @goldhover409 Před 2 lety +5

    Yay another video

  • @stapuft
    @stapuft Před 2 lety

    i dont even try when i sign, i just randomly scribble

  • @60NXNP09
    @60NXNP09 Před 2 lety

    Sylvia is pure Vanity!

  • @thomashughes_teh
    @thomashughes_teh Před 2 lety

    After a major life event in my mid 20's I intentionally started forming the first letter of my signature differently. I also write slower and remarkably more legibly. My signatures from age 13-24 are very different from those of my late 30's. The younger me had jobs where I certified with signature countless times a day. p.s. My hand is not maimed.

  • @sarahuchoa4018
    @sarahuchoa4018 Před 2 lety

    My signature is so different each time that I live in constant fear of being charged or something 😅

  • @TheRealGavyLedfo
    @TheRealGavyLedfo Před rokem +1

    “V suace Kevin here and I’m about to bust” ah yes

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard Před 5 měsíci

    Hmm so the takeaway is when forging a signature to get some samples from the person to know how consciencious or sloppy they are at consistency and then sign in ways that doesn't fall outside a standard deviation from that

  • @cryptoooooooo
    @cryptoooooooo Před 7 měsíci

    Basically, if you don't recognize the number dealing with the odds, then guilty.

  • @addicted2caffeine
    @addicted2caffeine Před 2 lety

    Well I know who I want to testify for me if ever I'm accused .

  • @eugenesis8188
    @eugenesis8188 Před 2 lety

    I'm always reminded of how sh*t my signature is.
    I have horrible handwriting in general, and I write slow even though it's sloppy.
    So my signature was literally just my initials with random squiggles where other letters should be. There is no reason to take more time because nobody can read it anyway.
    Over the years, it has devolved to just my initials and a wavy line.
    It always makes me wonder if I could just draw a smiley face on official documents and nobody would say anything, ever.

  • @hymlocke
    @hymlocke Před 2 lety +1

    Imagine losing a case because your forgery was too perfect

  • @ashishpatel350
    @ashishpatel350 Před 2 lety +5

    Elizabeth Holmes 🤣

  • @GaryFerrao
    @GaryFerrao Před 2 lety

    i'm gonna trace my own signature from now on

  • @anewkindofangel
    @anewkindofangel Před 2 lety

    Was an awesome quote...

  • @lukeborgers2639
    @lukeborgers2639 Před 2 lety

    At first I thought the lady on the thumbnail was going to bust dream

  • @isntimportant
    @isntimportant Před 2 lety +2

    Damn, here I was proud that my signatures are all perfectly identical to each other and in reality some nerd could claim it was faked? So I've been undoing myself by being consistent and using something I can perfectly repeat rather than just generally repeat? I better change my signature!

  • @Zeno376
    @Zeno376 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video as usual. More true crime please. Very poggers.