2020 Austrian GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast
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- What an INCREDIBLE race we witnessed for the first round of the season in Austria. Did Hamilton deserve a 5 second penalty? Would Albon have won the race? Lots of things to discuss in this week's WTF1 podcast!
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now whenever Albon and Lewis gets close it's gonna be INTENSE
dpolww dw ...Walt and see how far Alex gets his elbows out.
Rosberg and Ham 2.0
Remember 2016 Barcelona
almost like ocon verstappen
indeed, i swear lewis is making a statement to albon
I remember when everyone was slamming Max for his comments about the Ferrari engine. And now everyone agrees.
Not everyone
@Sunder Kartik I still don't know why they kicked out Maurizio, he was on the right track.
It was not the engine, it was the battery. It used graphene to allow it to charge faster, hold a better charge, and run cooler. To be clear, the F1 regs effectively prevent having a battery which can hold the maximum permitted charge - that is current tech cannot reach the charge/recharge levels permitted in the rules. Adding graphene layers allows a lighter battery which can actually reach the charge permitted by the rules and deliver that power lap after lap - recharging in just one braking zone rather than a full lap or more. So did Ferrari cheat? Well they use the same batteries as everyone else now, but it does not appear they cheated. They innovated with a substance which is allowed in the construction of the chassis but not mentioned in the battery rules. So what rule did they break? Cost cap. They broke the cost cap on the battery and charger. You heard it hear first.
Jesus I forgot that this was even a thing and it's just made me so happy.
Big mood
Is the UK still under lockdown?
@@dragospahontu Well yes but people think otherwise.
@@nosebleedpuddle It's weird how some countries have not been in lockdown for a long time whilst others still are.
Räikkönen's top right tyre: *"Leave me alone I know what to do"*
Front right
The front left did know what it was doing
@@Chill-jm8db yeah you're right, lemme fix that
Tyre: You will not finish the race, Kimi
Ironically this was meant to go out earlier but I forgot to add in the ABCDEF1 jingle. Even in post production I mess up the jingle 😂
Thanks for the great insights bro ,,,
- the most knowledgeable commenter on F1 in any format IMHO.
Small detail: Gio (alfalfa romeo don't know how his name is written) was P9.
About the Albon incident, if he'd waited till the straights for Drs he would have been very disappointed. It was on the first lap after the safety car came in, and drs is disabled for 2 laps after the safety car comes in. The merc is decent enough on the straights and after the second lap their tyres would have warmed up so his advantage would have been equal with the pace advantage of merc... I think. Don't quote me on that but do about the drs thing.
And great podcast btw.
Last year in Suzuka, Charles understeered into verstappen similar way and got 5 sec penalty.
So I think the 5 sec penalty for Ham was fully deserved.
You can't compare to different tracks and penalties with each other. That's why you can see the same kinda incident but have a different outcome. When the stewards give out penalties, they take into account all different aspects! Like what kinda corner it is camber or off camber g force's wind direction could ever driver pulled out/slowdown to avoid the incident.
100% correct, also earlier in the race I think leclerc done sainz around the outside of that corner and sainz pulled out of it once he realised leclerc was ahead
Overtaking around the outside in that corner is so risky because the defensive line and the overtaking line converge as the corner swoops round 180°. That’s the main point everyone seems to have forgotten. Lewis going into that corner can only do what he did. The natural line the car takes, is that line. Lewis takes the maximum apex speed he can when defending his position. Going into the corner he is ahead which means he can dictate the racing lines both cars take. They are then side by side at the apex because Albon has superior grip and can take the corner entry faster, carrying a high maximum apex speed which brings him alongside Hamilton, Albon though is not entitled to a cars width because he was behind Lewis in the entry faze of the comer meaning he has to respect Hamiltons racing line. But because Albon’s wider line enables him to straighten the car sooner and his grippier tyres allows him to get the power down sooner, he thinks he can gain the position on Hamilton and complete the move before the two lines meet. Hence why the ex-drivers say “it’s a risky move”. Because Albon hadn’t completed the move, they touched which caused him to spin out. Now that is a racing incident because Albon new the risk or should’ve known the risk, but the stewards are applying a penalty because the incident cost Albon lots of places, so to even it up they are applying a penalty to Hamilton. Which in my opinion is wrong. It wasn’t Hamiltons fault but your penalising him just because the outcome wasn’t great for the other guy, where as in other races because the outcome wasn’t severe they let these incident go. For example Max v Kimi turn 6 in Austria 2018
Link to video of incident below if you can’t remember it.
czcams.com/video/9mvnc_vNf6A/video.html
That is so wrong and illogical in my opinion. That’s like me shooting Peter but because Peter survives I don’t get punished for trying to kill him.
@@minimead368 I disagree, Sainz pulled out when Leclerc overtook him the same way. That disproves your statement that it's the only thing Lewis could have done.
Wietse op de Weegh ok please tell me what could he have done?
That leclerc drive was something I would expect from alonso with dragging a bad car to positions it doesn't deserve.
Hamilton + Albon = McLaren podium
More like Hamilton x Albon
To everyone that says: "Albon should have waited for DRS on the next lap!"
The incident happend on the lap of the safetycar restart. DRS is not on for 2 laps after the restart.
Exactly!!
Haven’t fact-checked you yet, but are you really saying that 1 lap would make a difference?
Corrupt Central The Merc was so quick that Bottas would have likely gotten away at the very least. Plus Albon had the move effectively done by the time Hamilton spun him
Christoph5782 both mercs had old hard tires and gearbox issues that prevented them from attacking the curbs. Albon had ~10 laps to pass them both and would’ve absolutely won that race waiting for DRS. He would’ve walked by Hamilton on the start finish straight or into turn 3 without DRS based off nothing but traction and had a second a lap delta to Bottas. Even if Bottas magically creates a 5 second gap to Hamilton he still gets caught.
Kimi fan and "actually" man here. There is no way Kimi deserves a D if Gio gets a B. Yes, Gio outqualified Kimi and got a better start. However, Kimi caught up to him and even passed him. What ruined Kimi's race was that he pitted one lap before the first safety car and dropped to last. After that he again made his way right behind Gio when the second safety car came out and then Kimi lost his tyre. Meanwhile at that restart, Gio ran wide at turn 1 and dropped to last. I think both Kimi and Gio deserve a C.
I would also give Magnussen a B, he was miles ahead of Grosjean in the race and was fighting in the midfield when his brakes failed. The Haas is not a good car.
Otherwise I agree with the grades. Great content as always.
Oh I thought he was last cuz the team brought him back in for safety check on the wheels. But anyways he still had to overtake some cars, Latifi, Kvyat and also vettel. Tis still a Ferrari that was better than the A.R.
It's interesting that people seem to have forgotten that Kimi's tire came off, It brought out I think the third 3rd safety car so you'd think people would notice.
@@nielsleenknegt5839 Yes, he was brought in during the second safety car which dropped him second to last between Latifi and Vettel. That didn't matter much as he was able to race with the new tires for 1/2 corner.
I thought the same
The only way Magnusson passes someone is by threatening to violently run them off the track at every opportunity.
Haas are the 90's pistons and Magnusson is the Dennis Rodman of current day F1. Only unlike Rodman he doesn't have the skill to back up his bullshit.
I'll honestly be glad to see Haas pull out at the end of 2021 and take dead last this season because they consistently ruin other people's races and take places they don't deserve.
Imagine Carlos Sainz being sad cause he signed for Ferrari, only to find out that McLaren is better, im sorry for carlos
Yeah, was thinking the same thing during te race😬
That's what I was thinking. But I'm also Australian 😉 Danny?
Kai Colbert Yeah, Danny Ric on the other hand is probably pretty pleased with himself😂
IKR! For a guy who has done all the right things and finally ended up in what seemed like WC contending car. Such a shame
eefjuh66 “pleased with himself”? Danny had nothing to do with him not ending up in Ferrari.
Lewis last year in an interview: "I like to give these younger drivers more space when racing knowing that they are agressive and don't like to bide their time, just like I was at Mclaren"
Lewis twice in three races to Alex: *Yeet*
for all guys thinking albon should have waited i look back to Aryton Senna who said: "If you no longer go for a Gap that exists you"re no longer a racing driver".
And drs was not even enabeld cuz its 2 laps without drs after a safety car.
over used quote
Quotes are meaningless. You could use this quote to justify any torpedo late lunge move by a driver and that would be a bad faith argument. Every incident should be judged independently.
blah blah blah Albonocry is a sissy with no brain.
@@nielsleenknegt5839 quotes are meaningless for scenarios like this. Hamilton has also achieved more than Ayrton ever had.
Albon supposedly didn't have the aero upgrades, I think they said in TV only max got all of them
HI did at first, but when Max broke his shiny new front wing on Friday, they took Alex's new wing and put it on Max's car and put an old wing on Alex's car.
Let me ask you this, would you rather see an overtake with DRS or one around the outside like so many other drivers did with out collecting each other? I am not saying that Albon should not have waited but just that we have become so dependent on DRS.
You have a great point! All those people saying that Albon should've waited don't like exciting races i guess
Siebe Nijs they do but the only clean overtake you can do in F1 now is at a DRS zone.
It’s an exciting move. But very bad move as far as calculations go. Lewis didn’t expect it for that reason, and there is no run off to correct the outcome. Albons job isn’t to entertain us, he’s gotta me smarter for his own sake. I think he could have crossed over there and easily beat Lewis to next turn without ABS because of his soft tires and how you have to keep turning as you exit that turn.
And also cuz there was no DRS on the next lap: it was after a safetycar restart and DRS is not on in the first 2 laps afther the safety car restart.
Passing through turn 3 was fairly safe
It was amazing how lando’s fastest lap was as fast as verstappen’s fastest lap from last year
Just straight away: the penalty WAS fair!!! LH understeered into Albon and continued to push the throttle.
exactly! the stewards must have seen LH`s car telemetry pushing the throttle.
Pretty much this, Albon was so far ahead Hamilton should have backed off. It was just a mistake but the penalty was fair. Can't believe the people blaming Albon though, madness.
@Luka Cherriman off track? He was not even on the kerbs when they touched.
wait for Palmer analysis we are going to laught at you mate.
@@JayB-lz6yd i would rather trust Rosberg ( a guy who actually drove a mercedes on high level) than palmer lmao
Watching Albon go to the outside on Hamilton all I was thinking was “If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver.”
It's funny because when hamilton does it in brazil gp ppl say it his fault but when albon does it it's 'go for the gap'. My personal opinion is both is real racing, go for the gap
@@abiddanial9545 Difference being that Lewis had no chance of overtaking Albon in Brazil, and Albon had almost already completed the overtake in Austria.
Matty and Tommy arguing whether to give Bottas A or A*, while Jess is watching this fuming and screaming C
Personal I think the reason behind all the mechanic DNFs was to do with the Austrian Curbs and it being the first race of the year!
The thing with Rosberg was right. I can confirm that Matty
Greetings of Germany😉
Have you seen that mclaren reaction in the last lap, me as a big McLaren fan i was exactly like that, just bought a mclaren shirt a couple of weeks back.
But sort of double cause im dutch and a massive verstappen fan, but also a hug McLaren fan so yay i love McLaren
I’m the opposite 😂 massive Red Bull fan (especially Max) but I’ve definitely become very “passionate” (😂🙈) about McLaren🧡
Same thing for me
I'm also the same. Probably because they can bring the fight to the front runners(+racing point)
Hey guys, we want a crossover with the "Is It Just Me" podcast with Jess!! (Also, you guys considering adding Dan to these podcasts?)
I actually thought she was part of wtf1, didn't know she had her own podcast.
@@tutumaina3332 Jess left WTF1 a few months back
@@thecinderchannel Awwww... I had no idea. Is there a video or post explaining why she left?
Tutu Maina Jess got a new job at autosport magazine and presents the ‘is it just me’ segment with Luke Smith🧡
@@amysarahkelly4149 Thanks! Good for her, she was(and still is) a gem!
We went from saying WOULD Austria produce the same race two weeks in a row, to CAN Austria produce the same race two weeks in a row
Yes it was well deserved penalty and above that i feel so sad for Albon, getting into the same thing twice.
His impatience put him in that position
@@dondiddy7529 I wonder, if the positions had been revesed, if fans of Hamilton would also argue Hamilton was just impatient.....
One guy was at fault and penalised, the other one did nothing wrong and wouldn't normally be blamed for taking a risk.
@@dondiddy7529 So what your saying is.. it's Albons fault for overtaking Hamilton in that corner because Hamilton was always going to hit him in that corner?
@@dondiddy7529 I think Albon got the opportunity, opportunity didn't come twice
Overtaking around the outside in that corner is so risky because the defensive line and the overtaking line converge as the corner swoops round 180°. That’s the main point everyone seems to have forgotten. Lewis going into that corner can only do what he did. The natural line the car takes, is that line. Lewis takes the maximum apex speed he can when defending his position. Going into the corner he is ahead which means he can dictate the racing lines both cars take. They are then side by side at the apex because Albon has superior grip and can take the corner entry faster, carrying a high maximum apex speed which brings him alongside Hamilton, Albon though is not entitled to a cars width because he was behind Lewis in the entry faze of the comer meaning he has to respect Hamiltons racing line. But because Albon’s wider line enables him to straighten the car sooner and his grippier tyres allows him to get the power down sooner, he thinks he can gain the position on Hamilton and complete the move before the two lines meet. Hence why the ex-drivers say “it’s a risky move”. Because Albon hadn’t completed the move, they touched which caused him to spin out. Now that is a racing incident because Albon new the risk or should’ve known the risk, but the stewards are applying a penalty because the incident cost Albon lots of places, so to even it up they are applying a penalty to Hamilton. Which in my opinion is wrong. It wasn’t Hamiltons fault but your penalising him just because the outcome wasn’t great for the other guy, where as in other races because the outcome wasn’t severe they let these incident go. For example Max v Kimi turn 6 in Austria 2018
Link to video of incident below if you can’t remember it.
czcams.com/video/9mvnc_vNf6A/video.html
That is so wrong and illogical in my opinion. That’s like me shooting Tommy but because Tommy survives I don’t get punished for trying to kill him.
They speculated in Austrian TV before the end of the race why they won't swap positions:
Alex Wurz's argument was, if they swap, Hamilton then protests the penalty and it actually gets cancelled, he won the race because of the swap.
And that would be "awesome" for the morale in the first race 😅
SMH Wurz doesn't know that penalties served during races can't be cancelled
@@dedoha8 realy? I think they investigated the apparently new evidence that Ferrari gave the FIA after Canada last year...
I thought it was possible if obvious.
Not that it is but if they try there might be a chance.
Hmm.. from the short look I had in the F1 rules dedoha8's statement seems right 🤔
"Appeals may not be made against decision concerning the following:
a) Penalties imposed under Articles 38.3a), b), c), d), e), f) or g), including those imposed during the last three laps or after the end of a race"
Now I ask myself if you can still protest against such a penalty, if you don't protest the penalty itself, but provide new evidence that it isn't predominantly or wholly the drivers fault who got the penalty (so instead of protesting 38.3, protest 38.2 which is not excluded from appeals)...
No idea, I'm not a judge or a steward 😅 but with the Vettel incident in mind and all the talk back then that you can appeal when you provide new evidence, I guess there is a possibility somehow 🤷🏻♂️
@@dedoha8 wait and re-reading your comment, the penalty wasn't served during the race, it was added to the end result.
It would have been served during the race if he had to stop again and sit it out in the box, and of course you can't cancel those
Red Bulls are blue
Mercedes are black
Lando got a podium
F1 is back!!!
My version:
Red Bulls are blue
Mercedes are black
Ferrari are slow now
S🅱️innala is back
Put it this way, no matter who's at fault, we'd all say a lot worse in Albons position so calling him a sore loser shouldn't matter at all and if Albon calling lewis that offends you, then you need to grow tf up.
Great Analysis of the race guys. Love your work.
"Rosberg knows all about squeezing people". Hmmm, who did he learn that from?
Absolutely Honestly? His dad!
@@SirGingerOfKnight fair enough. Though I was recalling how people explained away / minimized Nico Rosberg's WDC with him getting his elbows out & also Hamilton having more mechanical problems that year (mostly by British commentators).
Ignoring that the previous 2 years my recollection is that Hamilton gave Rosberg the elbow more often and also Rosberg had more mechanical DNFs. So they were just evening the averages.
@@SirGingerOfKnight True. His dad was tough as nails and never backed off a scrap on track.
What I want to know is where Verstappen gets that icy, cold, cocky, ruthlessness...his dad sure didn't show it during his nine year career in F1, at least, but then again poor old Jos was stuck in unreliable shitboxes most of the time, apart from his stint with Benetton.
@@patrickcannady2066 His mum perhaps? Button said in his Beyond the Grid that he wouldn't dare mess with her on track!
Your discussions are great. Love this podcast!
I think Mark Webber and DC summed it up perfectly. It was the very definition of a racing incident yet for reasons we will never know the stewards came to a different decision.
Tommy he had every right to squeeze him, but as the driver behind he carried the responsibility to not collide via just under steering into him. Understeering is a driver error. Taking out another driver due to _driver error_ is *ALWAYS A PENALTY*
Understeering is not a driver error - every car WILL understeer at turn 4 due to it's nature. Technically Albon hit Lewis as he tried to drive past him as Lewis was holding position.
@@deandejaguar Alex was ahead through the middle and exit of the corner, so he legally had the right to the line at that point
DeJaguar understeer happens when u take too much speed into a corner. Its on hamilton to judge how much speed he can take so he doesnt understeer. Hamiltons fault
@@Mali-qw7hx not at all. Lewis had full right hand lock on when Alex come up along side then in front as that was happening Lewis car was sliding side way's also Lewis didn't know he was there till Alex was passing him. Alex or Lewis at that point could not change the outcome they hit. 5 second penalty is to much it was nothing but a racing incident.
@@chriscollins550 Alex was already alongside Lewis and in his field of vision at least from the apex, he knew he was there and was going to hold it around the outside. He was accelerating from the apex regardless cause he probably thought Alex woudn't get ahead so he could push him off but Alex had much better tyres and got ahead after the apex, Lewis crashed into him as a result. Front wheel on rear wheel. Lewis should've been smarter but he was stubborn and accelerated as if he had the right to the racing line, which he hadn't and then it was too late.
2017 Seb was in the hybrid era and he did very well, was leading the championship for most of the year and Ferrari let him down, Ferrari did him dirty in the hybrid era.
It would be great if you could incorporate pics and video. Your assessment is entertaining. Keep up the good work
Great, did not know how much I missed a Race Review podcast until now. F1 is BACK!
If you dont go for gap that exists, you are no longer racing driver
Ayrton Senna
So Vettel is proving over and over again he's still a racing driver ;-)
Gijsbert Peijs the gap has to exist
@@bighassan8912 it did and Lewis had left enough space on the left. But Albon didn't take it.
@@astroknight5 Brommer was talking about Seb's move on Carlos
@@niismo. Oops. I probably thought it was referring to the original comment because other replies usually use the default blue link.
Even now I don’t know who my one driver of the day is. Lando drove an amazing race to get his podium and fastest lap. Charles got 2nd with a car that’s probably the 4th or 5th fastest car on the grid. And finally Bottas nailed it from start to finish by fending off Lewis even with safety car restarts. To me all 3 of them are the drivers of the day.
congrats on 500K!!!!
Raikkonen a D wtf... He was fighting Magnussen and Ocon for P11 after starting 19th, and just got unlucky with safety car, and then retired through no fault of his own...
Could had been behind Gio at 10'th with soft tires.
@@jarigustafsson7620 maybe ahead, because gio only pitted in the third safety car (which was caused by kimi)
great podcast, like you never had a break
Great banter lads! Love hearing your thoughts.
Morning couldn't have been any better. Finally!!
Lando engineer after each corner: Push overtake!! Go go go!!
I was shouting at my screen when Bottas crossed the line and they took off the seconds between Hamilton and Norris.
And i cried when the other screen came up. I had tears of joy in my eyes.
I'm pretty sure Lewis once said he'll always try and leave space. Well that aged brilliantly
Well he did lock up , but he did also accelerate early
What a crazy race!!!! Totally fits our chaotic year 2020 for sure
The incidents in Brazil and Austria with Alex and Lewis hurts my heart i feel so bad when someone is talking about them or having flashbacks from them :(. They absolutely kill me
The thing I find strange on social media is that while everyone is proud for Lando's first podium and rightly so, when it comes to Leclerc, I've seen many people say that his P2 came due to luck and that his performance is overrated
Awesome chat guys ! Some spicy sauce in there too..
YES I’ve been craving one of these for months
Brazil, I feel most action was only at the last 20-30 laps. But this one OH MY GOD, from lap 12 itself we see something happening
And Lando broke the record of the youngest British podium sitter
I commented this on the season review for 2019:
"Podcast quote of the season
Jess: "erm....I liked his spunk"
Matt: "God that's the biggest D I've ever seen"
Can't decide
Anyway can't wait for Australia 2020 race review"
I may or may not have jinxed it........
Australia?
you added a couple extra letters is all... Austr(al)ia, so close lol
If the driver on the inside is behind at corner exit, they must leave space for the driver on the outside. That is why Hamilton got the penalty. 100% correct decision from the stewards!
He didn’t leave the space? Did you watch the race or not?
love these but kinda miss a third person…
I miss Jess as well!!
Charles Leclerc’s drive reminded me of Fernando Alonso in the Ferrari
Great ep
For my first ever f1 race it was FANTASTIC!
"If you know how racing cars go into corners" Surely a 6x world champ would know that old hard tires + accelerating before the apex of said downhill off-chamber right handed turn, will accidentally on purpose cause under-steer. Maybe only at 7x world champ status does one truly know the workings of a racing car. Regardless, FIA has telemetry and Im assuming that was also used to come to ruling so in that light everyone who suggests a racing incident is inherently wrong.
With that being said, Im SUPER glad you guys are back talking about racing!
How did "I'm on the inside, It's my position, I have the corner, I have the right to dictate the way." work for Hamilton in Austria 2020 when this quote is from Nico Rosberg 2016 Austria????
It clearly didn't work for him though, did it? 😊🤷🏾♂️
Because Britney didn't steer, at all in 2016 Austria
Ham's onboard shows he had lock on and mad understeer
@@SirGingerOfKnight full lock isn't an excuse. Germany 2016
@@Twin540i Full lock is valid when you're suffering mad understeer on an off-camber corner going downhill
95% of Hockenheimring is on flattened land.
@@Twin540i i'm not defending the penalty, 5sec was Fair. I'm disputing the invalid comparisons.
Driver of the Day is always annoying to choose, when there's a lot going on in the last few laps.
I'd go for Lando, because of the last lap.
Charles did a great job on damage control for Ferrari.
To bad for Russell, because he did a great job on keeping Seb behind him.
Anyway, great race, great podcast, guys.
It's such a shame that the Hamilton Albon crash is still being talked about. It's so obvious it's Hamilton's fault, and it's only young Hamilton fans who say it's Albono's fault.
Listen to the podcast mate they describe it the best way possible. It is a Racing incident, yes 60/40 for Hamilton but didn't necessarily mean a penalty. It could have gone either way.
It was a racing incident, hamilton was on the inside and was committed to the line, and while it wasn't albons fault its very brave to go round the outside but somewhat foolish, they were always going to collide, if you watch Hamiltons cam you can see he doesn't turn anywhere but right with the steering wheel.
@@aguyishappy3988 but Albon was side by side with Hamilton going into the corner, and ahead of him at the exit. Hamilton should have slowed down more, because he had so long to see albon was ahead, but he kept to his line and crashed albon out. I don't even know how it is possible to discuss this.
@@aguyishappy3988 His steering wheel angle shows that he plans to push Albon to curb even gravel trap as same as turn 1 of 2015 USA. But Albon was much quicker than Hamilton's prediction.
That cam didn't prove he give enough space for Albon who already ahead.
Jack Wilmot summed it up perfectly
Surely Hamilton understeering into Albon, due to Hamilton going in to the corner too fast ( his mistake ) is worth a 5 second penalty? Since when are we only punishing intentional crashes?
100% a car was next to him in the breaking zone and lewis took the corner too fast not adapting to someone being next to him on tires with more grip.
5 secs are ok considering it wasn't intentional but still cost albon a lot of points.
I like the outcome of the race. But I agree with what he said it was just a racing incident not worth a 5 second penalty.
@@MXknowsHow so why wasn't Alex penalised earlier in the race when Lewis was 100% alongside on corner entry? Too much ambiguity in the rules
@@Alex-md6bu not really .
1 they didn't touch at all in that first incident so no action required.
2 the rule is : the driver ahead at the apex gets to dictate the line as long as he leaves enough space . In both Incidents Alex was ahead at the apex.
People should really stop talking before understanding the rules ffs.
@@Alex-md6bu When the contact happened Albon was ahead, not alongside, so he has the corner. Hamilton is the only one that can avoid the contact unless Albon doesn't go for a bold but perfectly legitimate overtake, at which point we might aswell stop calling it racing.
And the Lights are out AND away we GOOOOOOOO!
For the first time since 2014, mclaren starts the season p2 in the constructors!
Also, maybe to avoid a heat related problem late into the race like verstappen, albon wanted to pass hamilton as quick as possible.
Let’s be realistic, he got heated, and went for it, also 1 or 2 more laps behind a hard tire could have been some “cool down” time especially when they knew the mercedes’ were on limp mode.
I don't know how you can give Kimi a D and Antonio a B. Kimi had way better race pace and passed him on the track, only to have his strategy ruined by the safety car and then lost his wheel. Kimi was definitely the better driver until that point.
One hell of a race for Lando.. Great to see some of the upcoming stars of the sport getting some time on the podium. Really cannot wait for the future of this sport. Albon, Leclerc, Lando, Russell.. Whew!
When Tommy is talking about "just like Interlagos" and Matt just shakes his head
why leclerc didnt got a penalty in monza last year. he screeced hamilton in to the grass 100% and did zick zack on the strait what is illigal. pls correct me if i am worng with f1 rules
Although it ended in tears for both drivers, we have to give credit to Albon for his aggressive instinct and Hamilton for defending his position.
What more can fans ask for. I think it was a racing incident. The only way it could have been avoided is if Hamilton gave up before Albon was ahead.
0:04 matty looking like he bout to drop a hot r&b hook!
Leclerc's car was oversteering all over the place on exit, he definitely set it up better for how bad it is
That clip that Tommy tweeted of Lando’s last lap with full uncut radio is really sensational
Kimi tire said "ight Imma head out"
The only reason people are saying Alex should be patient is because of what’s happened
my take on the "ambitious move" in that he should've waited i figured he didn't want to let the Mercedes tires heat up not necessarily his tires run out
Rosberg mentioned the early power on Austrian TV, RTL
First of all in the race the mercs were particularly very good in the straights, secondly Albon knew he had to get the overtakes done early because he would only have that advantage for like 4-5 laps while the mercs got their tyres warmed up. He saw an opportunity and he had the grip, multiple cars had done that same overtake with no incident that race. He made the move which was beautiful but Hamilton under-steered to him. The penalty is fully deserved. If Canada between lewis and seb was a penalty(seb literally couldnt do anythin to avoid how he rejoined), this sure as hell was one.
Seb also had the choice of not flooring the throttle pedal when hitting the tarmac. Both of these actions where not penalty worthy in my opinion.
Albons move around the outside was similar to the move in Belgium on Riccardo
I'll say this again, if you snag the back tire it's pretty much your fault
I woke up early to watch this, it’s worth it 🙂
Leclerc's car also had a lot of dodgy moments getting out of the corners and on the power where it seemed he could spin at any moment. It wss visible even from the broadcast.
When Sebastian spun, I was like Mika saying "Goddamit"
I love the fact McLaren are back! Both cars in the top 5 first time in alot of years amazing drive from Lando, i think him and Carlos will have some great battles & Lando may be taken as a serious fighter. I felt so much for Alex but as stated his podium will come! Charles drove amazingly despite the ferrari struggle amazing race all round
Me: Sees it’s over 1 hour. Also me: *Happy noises*
So the key to an exciting race are multiple safety cars which shakes up strategy to the max.
Good call Tommy!
I think what you have to understand about Albon "waiting" is that Austria has the lowest differential between soft and hard compounds (+0.8 seconds), and the advantage is to be found in the corners. There was a gap there, and he had every right to go for it, especially as he still needed to pass Bottas for the lead, and to get clear air in order to get softs to the end. Also, Hamilton would have had DRS off Bottas, thus negating the DRS advantage. I'm happy that he went for it
"I saw comments from people who obviously don't know a thing about F1, that why wouldn't he (Hamilton) just turn more." You know Marc Priestly said that Hamilton didn't seem to have full-lock on his steering wheel. And I think he knows a thing or two about F1.
i keep getting distracted by ESP EX-401 SW in the background lol, anyway, good podcast
When do you plan on returning to the studio to record?
We podcastin' podcastin' 😎
Marc Priestley said hamilton was not on full lock yet though?? and i believe he worked on the F1 cars :P
All you need to know about Ham/Alb overtake - just look at Lec/Nor. Both on the podium.
Woohoo its's back!
I think Albon got the same lesson Verstappen got in 2018 (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong). You can go for every gap/opportunity/weakness, but chances of being successful are slimmer than making a move the best (or at least better) conditions. I know it is easier said in hindsight, but I’m almost certain that there would’ve been better moments to try. Especially with 15 laps or so to go. I applaud Alex for trying and I agree that Red Bull probably appreciated it as well. Better luck next time!
Best race of the decade!!
Miss the Troika, particularly on the ABC segment when trying to reach a majority verdict.
The difference this weekend between Charles and Sebastian can easily be explained by looking at last year. Charles has time and time again proved that he can and will get more out of the car and is better at setting it up. Sebastian struggles and its obvious.