M90A Close Assault Weapons System Prototype
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Remington 870 still in production in the 2500's is the most realistic part of this
Why improve perfection?
I bet more weapons than that are still gonna be in production then
There will still be revolvers
I wouldn't be surprised if the 1911 was still in production in some form, and that someone continued the tradition of .45 caliber being the best handgun round for combat. 😉
It'd be hard to improve on the wingmasters design
There’s an implication here that 530 years into our future, Ian will still be making videos.
Well, he is Jesus for a reason after all
That is exactly where my mind went too!
Gun jesus 'nough said
Can we make Ian canon in Halo lore? Please?
Flash clones. Except they work.
Ian: Reviews fictional shotgun from a video game series
Also Ian: Plays it serious as a funeral and reviews the gun using lore from the series
Absolute lad.
😆I was drinking my coffee during the initial 5 seconds when it had a game-like HUD and camera-angle, so I was furiously googling to try and see where this gun is from. "No, stop showing me Halo wikis. This is a serious gun I'm trying to find!" Was this meant to go up on April 1st? 🤔
I got all the way until he was talking about explosive decompression in a bording action before I realized something was up. I heard energy armor and just thought it was some kind of class of body armor I didn't know about. 😂😂
My like for your comment was 343 lol
@@colealexander7690 Ayyyy lol
Someone get him a Ray Gun or Thundergun
So awesome to learn the history! - We tried asking chief - he knew nothing....just tried taking it from us.
Lmao
He say anything about a library trip?
He pressed x to trade weapons and gave me a plasma pistol :(
@@danielrodrick4318 Halo: CE variant or any of the variants from later games? Cause the H:CE version is really effective.
He probably needed a weapon
I absolutely not only appreciate Ian's dedication to staying in character, but some of the deep cuts of Halo universe lore he was dropping.
It took me embarrassingly too long to realize what weapon this was 😅
its not lore
its history
I hope it's not that non canon 343i lore
Nerdgasm right there.
@@paperclip6377oh don’t worry from my memory 343 didn’t really mess with any of the old bungie weapons lore
The M90 saved my life. I was stationed on Reach, and what was left of my platoon were some of the lucky ones who got evacced. We had a couple guys with M90s who held the chokepoints leading up to the evac bird. Turned anything that came down those tunnels into chum. Neither man made it out. Corporal Karl Josef and Staff Sergeant Sancho Kaggwa. Rest in peace, brothers. Not gone, just redeployed to heaven.
Remeber Reach
Or they are still fighting those covies in hell!
@@ThelVadam7777 marines don’t die they just regroup in hell
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus yup, thats what i was referencing
Hoorah
The idea of Ian McCollum, a famous firearm historian, with no ties to video games whatsoever, taking the time to cover, from tip to butt (I hope Garand Thumb gets involved in this as well), a shotgun designed around its fictional counterpart, not only in character, but also to the point of crediting its actual creator as the canonical designer of said fictional counterpart, is special in a way I can't express with words.
He's got fallout ones too
Garand Thumb a few years back did do the Ma5B assault rifle, in the same style as this video, I'd check it out.
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"A flood light, or, rather... A light for seeing the Flood with"
Not bursting a blood vessel trying not to laugh from that was Ians greatest challenge
A flood vessel
its a nice little wink to the game but i cant imagine it being that friggin hilarious, you must have woken up on the right side of the bed or something because jeez
*Library flashbacks*
*_"Shotgun,_*_ damn it!"_
600 years later and Ian still hasn't changed a bit. He truly is immortal
they dont call him Gun Jesus for a reason
He has been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.
He will be called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the world goes dim and cold. He is Gun Jesus.
Time Lord?
Immortal? If he starts to carry a sword....
Ian must be an AI. I wonder if he knows Cortana...
@@edwardmelvin9184hes the real Jesus making gun videos in his spare time
Between this and the Fallout 3 AK/Chinese Assault Rifle, we need more crazy yet talented gunsmiths to make fictional firearms into reality if only so that Ian can nerd out on them alongside us and recontextualizing reality into fiction and vice versa
So this is a video game gun?
I know someone is trying to make the SPNKR rocket launcher real
@@ElTejon47901 Yes, it's from the HALO video game franchise.
There's a video on the chinese Assault Rifle??
@@SixFootTurkey_ OK, heard of HALO. Thanks.
As a Halo lore fanboy it's absolutely impressive that Ian delivers these lines with his usual professional attitude, made me smirk the entire way through
Ah the memories this brings back. I was just out of bootcamp and stationed in east africa during mid 2552 when the Covenant hit. We had to scramble to evac the wounded from the outpost after rigging the facility to blow and I was pulling security with this bad boy. Right before I embarked on the outbound pelican I remember the Chief tapping my shoulder and without saying a word he handed me an MA5C before taking my shotgun.
I was sorta relieved because I was way more qualified on that weapon over the shotgun, little did I know the mag was almost empty and I got my ass chewed by PLTSG for losing the weapon I was issued. Good times
Why would he chew you out? He knows the S-Act bylaws. It's not a lost weapon if it's taken by a Spartan, you just got issued a new weapon by one of us. We out rank your sergeant so if he wants to take it up with a Spartan let one of us know.
@@sorrenblitz805well I wish one of you would’ve been there during my second deployment when I was chewed out.
19th Shock Troops Battalion, dropped behind enemy lines and while we’re making our way to the objective the Spartan that we had with us requested my BR55 Service Rifle, so of course I handed my weapon. After our mission that Spartan had disappeared and our whole squad was confused, except sergeant who forgot about the Spartan and proceeded to rip me a new one. He may of been an old Hungarian bastard, but he was a damn good sergeant.
On the bright side that Spartan is the reason I discovered my favorite weapon, the M396 DMR.
luckily marines carry spare ammo for every weapon in both human and covenant arsenals
I was pointman in my ODST platoon, so I was the designated Shotgun guy. Carried a BR55 SOCOM as my primary and would switch to this gun’s cousin, the M45 for close encounters. That gun saved my life on more than one occasion in New Mombasa.
Hey man, nice to see an ODST managed to get out of that SNAFU!
You're still with the Helljumpers, or jumped ship with the S-IV program?
You were in New Mombasa? I remember that conflict as of yesterday.. my debt is with this weapon.
New Mombasa? I thought that place got glassed by the split jaws! Glad you got out!
STOLEN VALOR! I was in Able Company 3rd Helljumper Battalion at New Mombasa and all our point men had suppressed M7 SMGs! Our breachers had shotguns!
Remember reach, brother
My dad was deployed to several theaters in the war, including Reach. He would say that the shotgun would turn a split chin into an open chin real quick. Never talked much about the war, but every once in a while he would suddenly share some crazy shit.
Don't say that around the Arbiters guys. They got a mean punch that knocked out our corporal
I was on Delta Halo fighting towards the Library against the flood. The only reason I’m here today is because my M90, tight environmental seals, and a hinge head.. Sangheilli whose name I still can’t pronounce.
Cool guy, he’s pretty sure he has two sons.
Holy fuck turn a split chin into an open chin that is gold.
Wow. He pulls it off with a straight face and in character. Could have been an April fool's joke, but no, he goes with it. Awesome.
It's comforting to know that even 500+ years from now Ian will still be making videos.
He can never die because his work is never done.
One of the things we really appreciated about these was the giant iron sights. The helmet link displays weren’t adequately hardened during my first deployments and sometimes the Covenant plasma weapons would resonate on a frequency that would break the connection. Those irons saved my life during my unit’s Irandi IV drop.
Feet first, brothers. You know the music.
Not a lot of people talk about it, but at one point on Madirgal someone in the Navy decided to eat his Wheaties set off a tac-nuke in low atmo; fried the Covenant shields but fried *everything* we had too. None of my guided shells would work, most of our birds were grounded, but by God, the two guys in my platoon who carried the M90 had a field day, smoking Elites left and right.
M90s are some of the best pieces of kit the UNSC ever issued, hands down. Dual-tube models were maintenance queens- friggin' little fiddly bits in the feed liked to break in any environment outside ship corridors, but the extra six shots of eight-gauge without a reload is a lifesaver when you got swarms of covenant boarding parties, or god forbid, Flood, trying to get through a chokepoint. The SMGs were next to useless for anything but soft targets, though- but I won't complain too much about the damn things when they're good for sweeping through the little bastards they usually send first.
I hope Ian gets around to covering that monster they called a pistol. The M6D was advertised as an officer's model, but those things were issued to everyone and their mother during the last years of the war, if they weren't issued the peashooter M6Cs instead. Also, lotta those post-war 'documentaries' aren't very authentic about how a SAP-HE round can blow someone's arm off at the shoulder.
@@cakeboss4194 Ah yes, the "officer's" model. I guess they couldn't advertise it for it really is: the Spartan model.
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600th like
Halo and a forgotten weapons crossover? A christmas miracle
a roachdoggjr comment on Christmas morning? Erm.... thats a miracle.
I couldve been your daddy
And on Gun Jesus’s birthday no less
@@Jdubsx erm dude, you’re scaring off the chicks dude
@@roachdoggjr1454 what lol
Definitely a workhorse weapon. Reminds me of a platoon sergeant I had once. After every confirmed kill he'd growl "You just got Sarged".
Was that the same guy who insisted on painting his armour red? I remember hearing stories about some crazy PLTSGT and I think I saw him once or twice after Reach fell
If it's the guy I'm thinking about, he was the one who REALLY hated the split-jaws with a passion right?
Probably because how hard their blood is to wash off. I heard him mutter something about "damn dirty blues" before.
Ditching the tried and true M90 system for the god-awful Bulldog was one of the worst armament decisions the UNSC has ever made. There was no need to fix what wasn't broke.
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Joking aside, this video is absolutely hilarious and I'm so glad you made it. I would very much love to see more tongue-in-cheek breakdowns of replicated fictional weapons if you can get your hands on them.
It is so wild to see where the M90 comes from. Its wild to think that something so old is still in service today in the UNSC.
I had no idea they are 600 years old 😂. Leave it to the UNSC to field ancient earth junk.
It's mostly been phased out or upgraded well past what's seen here. It was never a standard service weapon so it's not surprising LEOs and special forces types would be the main users, and they like to hold on to what's familiar and effective. If it ain't broke...
I mean, 7.62 x 51 NATO is the standard rifle cartridge. That bullet has been working hard for six hundred and fifty years. Pretty sure there's some units that still use 7.62 x 54 R as well, so bump that up to 700 years. Plus there were Innies that were making effective use of AKMs.
Like Ian said, physics ain't changed one bit. Kinda makes you wonder why the Covvies even bothered wasting money on fancy-pants energy weapon nonsense.
@@nextcaesargaming5469 Heck, armourers have reported all matching Ma Deuce guns, with manufacture dates from 1943, still working. While I like plasma, laser, ultrasonic cavitation and gamma weapons as much as the next guy, there is no denying that you just won't get capacitor collapse when the whole thing is just a hunk of steel that decomposes primitive nitrates into furiously hot expanding gas.
Why improve on perfection?
My uncle served on UNSC Perugia. He talks about the shotguns often, apparently they were able to tear down an elite's shield in one or two hits, allowing the rifles to effectively dispatch them. Boarding parties loved them to bits.
Thanks to your uncle, not much people have balls to get into cqc with an Sangheili/Elite.
Get a life dude, it’s just a youtube vid
@@SnakeKiller1911 humor... you should try it
Why dont you just let people enjoy themselves instead of being a killjoy
@@SnakeKiller1911 "Get a life" as you read youtube comment threads lmao.
I love how Ian stays in character and makes the Halo lore so convincing. Great video Ian!
i usually watch it on a second screen and it took me 5 minutes before i had the holdup moment... proof that ian can be funny as hell (and somehow does these videos in a single take aswel)
My brother and I served in the ODSTs during the glassing of Skopje in '47. We were the last of our squad after a botched landing and it was a grueling few days just trying to stay alive. Two things kept us alive; the M45 and the M12 Warthog. I have a few of these I purchased from a surplus sale a while back.
... you mean the Puma?
My father was a Pelican pilot and was killed during the Skopje glassing. He was airborne when it started, but the radiation fried his electronics and he couldn't maneuver the bird away from flying debris with the backup manual controls. One of the marines who survivored the crash later brought me his M6D that had my mom's named etched into the slide. I enlisted once I turned 18 and carried my dad's pistol throughout the war
@@makvande576”well its low to the ground, has an ugly face, and look it even has tusks!” “that sounds like a warthog!” “I don’t know what the hell that is but I think I’ll call it a puma!”
@@qamzatmedvedov DIDN'T I JUST TELL YOU TO STOP MAKING UP ANIMALS
@@makvande576 “Well what the hell kinda name is Puma? It doesn’t even look like a puma!”
Next thing we know, Ian will be wearing the red cloak, mechadendrites and servoarms of a Tech Priest for a 40k gag. And analyzing a Brazilian homemade gun as an “Ork Shoota “.
Yes please, just yes
We need that
Oh that would be incredible
Oh dear God. I'm not even sure how to feel about that
Its a home made gun operated off the power of belief that most anyone else either cant use or wont use.
Sounds right
REMEMBER REACH
Thanks for covering the weapons that won us the war: it's awe-inspiring to see the tools used by heroes like the Chief up close.
Remember Reach.
This Land We'll Defend, U-N-S-C!
@@bourneco OO-RAH!!
Not sure if command would approve of me watching old-school screen media on patrol, but learning about how our service weapons came to fruition is fascinating. It’s almost like I’m looking back in time at some Forgotten Weapons
This is freaking amazing. How he keeps a straight face is beyond me. We're not worthy.
I love the way Ian makes a video about a fan-made, sci-fi shotgun as serious as his regular videos. He even includes stuff from the lore. I have serious respect for this man.
I am not a gamer but hearing Ian’s presentation on these is great.
Ian flexing some serious creative writing here
I was going this has to be from a video game or and then he mentioned the energy shields and I was sure
I’m pretty sure Garand Thumb inspired this style of content, and I’m so happy for it! The GunTubers have all done in-lord videos for Halo stuff ever since and it’s really special
i always enjoy his gag videos and their serious presentation, it's a treat
I carried an M90 when I was stationed in the crows nest during the battle of earth. Came in handy once the covenant assaulted the base, especially because of the tight corridors and closed in spaces of that old bunker complex. Unfortunately for me, I had to hand it over to the Arbiter in exchange for an M6. I wasn’t happy about it, especially considering what his kind had done to us for the past however many years… But I didn’t really have a choice. Desperate times and all that.
But since the entire arms room and base were blown up afterwards, I was never issued a statement of charges by my armorer. I guess I lucked out.
Was it an M6D at least? I’d hate for you to have been given a dinky little M6C.
@@joeyuzwa891 M6D. I was honestly surprised that he could even use the damn thing, his fingers barely fit in the trigger guard. I don’t think he could even fire an M6C.
@@byro_ the elites have pretty nifty finger things. You'd be surprised what they might be able to do.
I prefer the bolter tbh
Thank you for your service!
Oh wow…how you wove the actual gunsmith’s life and the creation of this weapon into the narrative lore of Halo was just masterful. This is such a lovely video
absolutely love the lore covering why the receiver says Remington 870 😆
My Grandpa told me how he was there in that final battle. His squad had nearly all been killed. His commanding officer was firing a machine gun from an overturned warthog and he was defending their flank with his shotgun. He always said that the only reason he was able to keep fighting was because The Chief was still in the fight. He kept calling out, "Can you still see him!?" Every "yes" gave him the strength to keep fighting.
Bro wright a book, that shit was amazingly, book worthy inspirational text there my gentleman.
@@vladislavohremenco3472 it's from the halo 3 trailer Believe
love how you incorporated parts of the believe ad campaign!
Hes refrencing the halo 3 believe ad campaign shit went so hard @vladislavohremenco3472
I inherited my father's M45D Shotgun that he was issued as an ODST during his deployment on Reach. He absolutely loved it and never traded it for anything else. A beautiful weapon, and very fun to fire at the range. Shooting it for the first time is scary at first, but you get used to its insane recoil. Rest in Peace Dad, thank you for being an amazing father, and for your honorable service in the UNSC.
Lucky he made it off reach my entire extended family got glassed :(
@@Maimkillburn69 remember Reach
Glad your dad made it off Reach, my grandfather was stationed there, before the fall. I still have his Magnum
@@Maimkillburn69 I am sorry for your loss. We all lost loved ones in those summer months.
Remember reach, I often visit the old reach Memorial to recall all those we lost. I was born on Harvest so I understand the need for those memorials and Remembering all we lost.
I'd love it if there's any "surviving" examples of the BR-55 prototype (XBR-55) because I think an explanation of the pros and cons of its 9.5x40mm cartridge would be neat to hear Ian comment on. Or just talk about the Battle Rifle itself since it's such an iconic design with an interesting caliber choice. Love the in-universe framing device here and definitely was a fun one to watch!
Famas irl 😱😱😱😱
Not looking at the RFB kit from Keltec
The fact that he is literally treating it as he would any other non-fiction gun is what makes me love these videos
ForgottenWeapons crossing into video-game universes is like a guilty pleasure. What a great Christmas present. Thank you Ian!
It's so great, glad he did this video
He also did one on the Chinese assault rifle from fallout 3
Now I understand why I've seen so many modern weapons that I wouldn't consider forgotten on this show. This is a show from the future.
it always has been
Hey Ian! I actually work in the Archive for the Colorado School of Trades, and your video prompted me to go look if our former student left any of his notes behind! Lo and behold, one of his original concept drawings for what I assume eventually became the M90A. The original noted purpose for the placement of the magazine tube was in fact, to allow guys to reload the weapon more reliably in zero G environments, specifically for situations where the ship being guarded loses power.
I wonder how much of a difference that would make in zero G
My favorite fun fact about the sight systems on these military long guns is that often the "lit" sights you see in media - wether it be from recruiting drives or just typical footage from the fronts - are actually almost all completely black or un-lit white to the naked eye.
It depends on the particular weapon and even individual variants (especially swapped customized by the user), but generally those points don't appear reflective at all in the normal visual spectrum. Rather, integrated HUD systems can track them using their sensors and essentially overlay the colour on them. On some weapons, they are also used like landmarks to help integrated HUD systems that have zoom and aim reticle auto-overlay.
Naturally, many civilian versions just have regular lit or reflective coloured sights.
If you are ever looking at combat footage and you see one of these guns seemingly with super bright lights but notice the area around the light on the gun isn't reflecting any - that's why. It isn't *actually* a bright light there.
It doesn't help that media tends to add in the lights in post when they have footage where it isn't picked up by the recording cameras, to make it look "right" rather than keep it real.
Watching Ian struggle to remember the lore fluff for the script but still able to effortlessly recall real weapon details and history is heartwarming. Merry Christmas! :)
The commitment and lore is fantastic
I concur 😂
Same as garand thumb’s MA5C and MA37 videos, love to see it.
“One of the two standard shotguns used by the UNMC”
Wish 343 held the same values.
Love all the little explanations for balance changes between games, like the adjustable choke for the wildly varying spread rates.
Good to know that Ian the 6th is still honoring his ancestor by uploading videos
As a survivor of the Harvest campaign (you will forever be remembered, may your legacy live on!), this weapon saved my bacon several times... and made mincemeat of one of those Split-lipped bastards, point blank to the face.
Still a beautiful beast, one of my buddies gave me his, and we were some of the few surviving battalions of the once beautiful planet Harvest.
Ian, you legend. You never broke character right to the end. This absolutely sounds and feels like one of your regular videos.
He did a Fallout one for the Chinese Assault Rifle from FO3 that was really great, though IIRC it was just a prop and not a functioning gun.
His April Fools Day episode had me right up to the point he "shot a sheep".
@@Smurfman256wich one was that
you mean it's not?
@@Papamikkk the "Icelandic proto-gun."
So I actually watched the development of this gun over the course of a year on a gunsmithing group on FB. Nathan did some incredibly cool work here. Ending up on Forgotten weapons has to be every gunsmith nerd's wet dream
i had a conversation on reddit with a guy a few years ago discussing this exact concept of just taking an 870, flipping it upside down, and running some linkage in its new furniture to the trigger and pump. the guy claimed to be a gunsmithing student and said he would play around with the idea. i am sure it is entirely coincidental, but ever since i saw this project first start to make the rounds online, i always had a faint hope that it was the same guy i had that conversation with
@@mogetfog du u still have the chat? or his u/ ? If so hit him up and ask him.
@@AleXxTM123 I'm sure I do. It was on reddit. Just a matter of scouring my comment history
Nevermind how it got here, will it actually shoot and feed correctly? I think this would be even easier to build a semiautomatic! Quad loads without turning the gun would be awesome.
Imagine showing this to your 2007 self
My grandpa was stationed on reach when the covenant first arrived, he and his platoon retreated to an office of naval intelligence base and held off wave after wave for hours straight with nothing but the M90, covenant never got close. really a game changing weapon. Some gray spartan took it though and traded him an empty plasma pistol. He died 3 minutes later, RIP grandpa.
I have never been given such a Christmas gift and likely never will again. The accuracy to the lore and story I got to be added to is something I will carry with me for the rest of my life.
While my time at Misriah was short I still hoped the efforts made might do some good. I got called back to jumping feet first into hell, I guess it was where I belonged. I’ve thought about that prototype a lot since then. It was juvenile glee to begin, total obsession to finish, and agonizing revisions to the end. The CAWS program became a bigger foe than the covenant. Swimming in the deep end with stimmed engineers and bumping shoulders with efficiency AI… jumpin’s a lot easier… you wouldn’t see me smile till they fielded the production M90.
We always knew that napkin design was gonna go somewhere. Never forget your roots
Is this what you've been doing after your time in 2- 105? I'd half expected the innies to get ya.
You did Misriah proud, trooper!
Hey my old man works for misrah too ! And i was a helljumper. Huge chance i've seen you before when i was but a wee lil boy when he brought me on one of those "bring your kids to work day" (still wondering why an arm's manufacturer thinks bringing kids to a gun factory is a smart idea)
That flood light to see the flood line was simply brilliant.
that one got a lol from me
Made me laugh Immediately
I remember my classmate making this particular shotgun at school. Never expected a forgotten weapons video to be done in character with it a year later.
I remember when the Covenant first came to Harvest. I was part of the 446th ODST and we were deployed in a nearby system putting down an insurrectionist rebellion. Some of the first on the scene our shotguns were indispensable when we were just learning how to fight the new enemy. Ill never forgive the Sangheli for those horrible days. Thanks Ian this sent me right back to dropping from low orbit.
The rebellion was right, the true evil of the UNSC shown its true colors that day.
Yet to the colonists, it was Tuesday. The ODSTs were just purple and sometimes invisible.
What ONI doesn't allow Ian to say is that it also is in service due to its ability to rapidly and viscerally destroy the chest cavity and central nervous system of enemies after shields have been depleted. This is especially useful in outbreak areas which is why HAZMAT cores or S4 divisions on Forerunner installations are regularly given weapons such as these.
343 halos are bad fanfiction.
@@fulgrimventris8506Everything after Halo 3 is just Chief having a bad dream while in the cryopod. He's still adrift out there. We will find him.. one day.
Anti-Flood teams even have special versions of their weapons which have cheap, easily removable and disposable furniture, to be swapped and incinerated should there be a risk of contamination.
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ONI also doesn't want you to know is that they had planned to equip their child soldiers with this to massacre farmers and other regular people that didn't want to be governed by someone solar systems away. Good luck on ONI's part that the Covenant invaded when they did. But y'all will probably just call me some sort of conspiracy theorist and continue to worship the UNSC and ONI.
No way this is the best Christmas present ever, truly iconic
It even has a flood light or light for seeing the flood with!
The idea of the Remington 870 still being in production half a millennia in the future is hilarious.
I got very confused at first when Ian sad:
"500 years ago back on WWII"
I was like:
"Tf is he smoking? What you mean 500 years ago?"
But then I got it, absolute Legend, thank you very much for this video!
I have always been fond of these, but you have to be careful to check the bore before you take one out on patrol. I've come across many examples where the choke was so worn that the shot spread was more than I'd thought could be physically possible. I seen this primarily on old early and pre-war examples that were being stockpiled on many worlds (including Earth and Reach) for refurbishment but got mixed up in the main supply chain in the chaos that prevailed just before (and certainly after) the Fall of Reach. I suspect worn out barrels also made it into the parts supply around this time as well since I've seen guns that looked to be in great shape externally shoot pellets in patterns that were barely useful outside bad breath distances.
Sometimes I wonder if this wasn't an accident at all, but yet another attempt by ONI at psychological conditioning, specifically to encourage troops to close distance with the enemy and
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I mean, we've all seen the slamfire mag mod that one of the TREBUCHETE units was running around with.
From what I heard there were a few cases of the Army recieving shotguns that were meant for Marine or Navy armories, and thus the choke was set wide for boarding action. The Army's armourers were either too busy restoring mothballed weapons or just didn't have the combat experience to know. Not blaming them, most were reservists or concripts well past their prime.
Facts. The ones on ships like the Autumn ran correctly. You could touch a grunt 30 meters out no problem. Navy kept them boys in tip top shape
@@bombomos All the best for Operation Red Flag
Jesus, just watched buddy get memory-holed in real time.
My uncle enlisted near the end of the war, so he got to use the M90 for a bit in theater. Once the UNSC switched to the M45D, he said it was a massive downgrade and almost every Marine hated it. The older veterans especially.
The M45 was an even bigger piece of shit than the M6GA1 they started issuing during the Second Battle of Earth, and that thing was also worthless. Cutting the tube size but not giving us more ammo was a massive mistake. Might as well just use it as a club.
@@AJadedLizardcareful, the M45 is different from the newer M45D.
the M45 was used on Reach up to and during its glassing, and was also aboard the PoA. the M45D meanwhile was used on Requiem.
they are not the same.
@@natayaway Oh yeah, the one that looks like a spaceship, right?
I’d take the M45D over the CQS48. You at least don’t lose stopping power with that.
Yeah, the M45D looks dumb, and the M45 worked fairly well.
I’ve wondered why the spread was different between the M90 shotguns on the Pillar of Autumn and the ones on Cairo Station, and the adjustable choke clarified it.
love that you're finally embracing game guns instead of being annoyed about the enthusiasm FPS games bring towards them.
My grandfather served with this weapon during the Harvest campaign. When I was a kid, the last thing I heard about him was he had been redeployed to Arcadia where he saw some action, only for the ship he was serving on to disappear with all hands after the battle concluded. Rest In Peace gramps.
Glad to see someone still remembering the Spirit of Fire. A colony ship turned warship, it's distinguished service on both Harvest and Arcadia should be praised yet it's often drowned out by other prominent ships in the war.
@@RetroRadianceLight
We'll always remember Cutter, Forge and the Spirit of Fire.
@@RetroRadianceLight Not to get all conspiracy theorist, but I think the silence around the Spirit of Fire is a bit intentional. I had a buddy in the Corps who got really into the history of the Human-Covenant war and at one point, thanks to a family member of his serving on it, the Spirit of Fire's service. Kept talking about how the Spirit of Fire was never lost and in fact is still out there, just missing in action due to a disabled slipspace drive. I never really believed it until some ONI agents showed up at his barracks at one point and he just stopped talking about the Spirit altogether after that. Whenever questioned on it he'd always get uncharacteristically moody and serious, telling us it was lost with all hands and to drop it. Really makes you think...
sounds rough i rather serve in a infinity class as a mac gunner
Love the Halo Wars deep cut
This is amazing im in a machinist group on facebook and the dude who built this often posted updates. I never would have expected it to make it to this channel that has to be some kind of life goal. Wish i remembered the guys name id go back and congratulate him.
Nathaniel Frisque, its in the description
Didn't he end up selling this?
Excellent and funny merge of real-world info and in-game lore. As a gun nerd and a halo nerd this video had me smiling throughout.
I've been watching FW and playing Halo for over a decade. To see two of my favourite things combined is making my inner child jump for joy.
Gun Jesus reviewing one of the most iconic shotguns in gaming history? Very nice Christmas present!
I hope he reviews the UAC Combat Shotgun sometime, the one from 1993-2149, not 2016-2149
530 years & Ian doesn't look a day older. That man must have good genes...or he's immortal.
Oh, no... this is "Ion" McCollum, a nearly perfect clone of the original.
redacted ONI project for sure@@kmech3rd
@@kmech3rd We only go for the best, not that Flash-cloning crap that I have no idea about anyway and is no way relevant to this conversation.
I mean... He's Jesus
Bloody clone.
“Chief why are you watching Forgotten Weapons”
“Learning tactical history sir”
I watched this right after waking up from a short nap, and I can't describe you how it unsettled my mind for a while..
you sure you didnt go into a cryo sleep for 500 years?
My older brother, a Staff Sgt. in the 105th Shock Troops Division, was deployed as an ODST during the Battle of New Mombasa. He had a fondness for the M90, often joking that all it took was a pump or firing a shell into the air to send the Covenant running. He was brave, with a spirit that could light up any room. Sadly, he never returned home after the glassing. Every day, I miss his laughter, his courage, and his unwavering dedication. Feet first into hell, big bro. Salute o7
Your brother was a boomer in the ODST?
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Don’t forget , Standard manual of arms for this weapon when used in combat suggested one shot to the chest followed immediately by a solid smack with the butt stock
Followed by immediate ammo top up
Man they should have look back at those WW1 relics shotgun that has bayonet mount. Sometimes I gotta admit the blade on those brute weapons works okay.
One of my squadmates tried that. Didn't work so well for him, but I got his watch.
I remember when Forgotten Weapons used to make videos of weapons that existed in the past. Today we have a forgotten weapon that hasn't been made yet. I hope someday we will have extra-physics explanations like how the Needler works and how a cloud of smart-Gas can seek a target.
The Needler and similar weapons have to be something the damn covvie "gods" cooked up. It's completely disconnected from their normal design philosophies, and it certainly ain't brute tech. How the hell is it only the damn dirty brutes could appreciate the forcible application of kinetic energy focused into a point?
You know tech progress basically stalled in that damn empire for millenia cause the idiot prophets were super selective on what tech would actually filter down from "the gods" to the rank and file. The whole goddamn society had no idea how any of their tools functioned, cause _learning_ was heresy or some shit. Only the Jackals made any efforts at all, cause they were goddamn pirates, and they cared more about getting paid than what god's mouthpiece said.
I wouldn't be surprised if the needler descended from some sort of alt weapons project, made for solving problems that high power energy weapons, for some forsaken reason, couldn't solve. What those crazy old dead sumbitches needed biotracking self guiding exploding flesh rending gemstones for, well... Here's hoping and praying I never gotta fight it.
I absolutely love these videos you do!
The UNSC shotguns are all a huge favorite of mine in video gaming gun design.
Excellent video as always and Merry Christmas to you!
He looks so young at age 570!
Cryo does wonders for your skin, and also prevents aging which is the more important thing.
Ergonomically, top loading worked out a lot better in full kit imo. In prone, on the run, in the hog (yes you'd think people would use the rifle in that case but I've seen it!)
Also note that a lot of these ergonomic choices revolved around compatibility with more furnished armor systems like for ODST and Spartans. Hence, trigger guard, pump, and controls might seem needlessly enlarged, but it comes in handy for winter gear, power armor, and also if you're a 7ft tall science project. I didn't really mind, but some of our shorter guys straight up looked like children holding these haha.
Was a big trend among human covenant integrated units and Spartans to cut the trigger guards off entirely for ease of use, it was technically against regs and unit armors were not particularly happy about that but usually they looked the other way and write it off as “battle damage”
I actually heard that it was pretty preferred to literally 'ride shotgun' with these in most Warthogs. IIRC, the thought process was while the unarmed transport hogs usually would have usual infantry with rifles, any hog with a weapons system would be extremely able to take care of anything at range, but was vunerable to boarding and close-range opponents, hence the use of shotguns, especially to maximize hit probability since you're likely traveling pretty fast.
I know at least one dude who swore that 'riding shotgun' with these saved his life and the lives of his soldiers on multiple occasions, to the point where he took it as his weapon of choice almost always. Though to be honest, I'm not totally sure the accuracy of that since I heard rumors he had never actually served, and he tried to convince me that he was involved with Freelancers. Come to think of it, he never gave me his name, just kept giving his rank of Sargeant.
@@tylerp.5004 _Warthog music intensifies_
@@tylerp.5004 I think I know that guy!
He's the one who kept calling his Hogs the Walrus or Panther or some other big cat.
Anyway, last I heard, he was stationed as Section Commander of an outpost. A real hellhole, boxed canyon in the middle of nowhere, no way in or out.
@@utubrGaming Sounds like the kinda posting that'd leave you wondering, "Why are we here?"
this is so beautiful, i might cry
It’s real, I am so happy that it’s real
If any game devs read the comments here: a collab video like this where you get characters to talk about the history and implementation of the weapons in your lore/world would be way too hype. This was delightful
"Well, anyway, these chainsaws were actually sent to Mars in error... but, you know, needs must."
@@AshleyPomeroy you can't hide your doom reference from me!
I recommend looking up the halo believe campaign, they did exactly this!
Granddad always told me stories about turning splitjaws into ground beef with his M90 back on Reach. Crazy how such an ancient design still holds its own today.
How so? We still use Warthogs those things are 300 years old lol.
I love this series its feels so authentic, makes me question my sanity some times
Really appreciate all the attention to detail! Very fun to watch
This and the Fallout 3 assault rifle video shows that Ian can do a better job explaining the in-universe logic and reasoning behind weapon designs than the game devs.
I remember during the battle of New Mombasa, due to the close fighting of Urban setting, our battle rifles were fairly usseles... Many brothers were picked up by invisible elites... Thankfully we found a New Mombasa PD weapons depo, and by that point until our evecuation pretty much every squad in the company was half shotguns, half other weapons, very much to the convenant's displeasure
Floodlight joke was great lol. Merry Christmas and happy new year, this video is amazing and a gift i didn't know i needed
“We’ve got a floodlight here… a light to see The Flood”.
I’ve never died a little and been elated at the same time before
Love how he is talking factually. This ticked me and I found it interesting
He's sticking to the bit! ❤️😃🎄
This and Garand Thumb's assault rifle feature are treats for fans of the franchise and the creators.
Ian always delivers for Christmas, and this year is no exception. Merry Christmas Ian! What a unique weapon to have on the channel.
What other fictional guns has he done?
@@zvolchen117 Fallout 3's Chinese Assault Rifle
@@zvolchen117 The first firearm being invented by the Vikings. Which would have become canon if not for being released on 1st April.
The M90 was my best friend back in '52, I'd still take her over anything newer any day too.
MORE PLEASE GOD MORE
i had a shit day at work and i needed something like this, thank you so much. i appreciate very much the effort you put into making videos for us to watch.
600 years later and Ian still has the classic pesky mic and flat black table. Absolute class.
I remember using one of these in the invasion of new Mombasa. I found it on a dead marine and killed my first brute with it. Thanks to the m90 I survived with my family
Semper fi brother, thank you for Finishing the fight.
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
You didn't kill a Brute, no way. Must have been a Grunt or something.
Thank you for your service, but I think plasma must’ve damaged your eyes in the war, cause this is the 12 guage prototype not the standard issue 8 gauge.
@@joeyuzwa891 well excuse me for misremembering the model of the gun I used IN LIFE OR DEATH COMBAT with NO TRAINING.
This is the best Christmas video we could have asked for, and it's educational. I love learning about the war with the Covenant.
I love this, video game and movie armaments are just as iconic to some of us as any. And respect to whoever goes out of their way to faithfully recreate and represent them as well.
Back in ‘48, the local meridian colonial reserve unit and my army company raided a police departments armoury for weapons. We were near a coastal town named brume-sur-Mer, and at the time our supply line was effectively destroyed. Best we could get was MREs and water, maybe some ammo, like a box or two of 7.62. Very dire situation. Anyway, we found within the armoury some M7s, a couple M392s, 3 MA5Cs (we were issued MA37s, so at best we gained more mags and ammo but the barrels weren’t interchangeable on the account of the 5c having a thicker and heavier barrel.) and like 10 M90s. These we LE variants so they were 12gauge. Now, if we were hunting deer, I’d have been a happy man, but deer don’t have 4 chins and energy shielding. Normally with an 8 gauge, it’d take like 2-3 shells to down a hinge head. 1st shell to burst the shielding, second and/or third to put the sorry bastard down. But with the 12g, it took at least an extra shell, and as we quickly found out, that additional second to rack that extra shell was normally when the sangheili got its bearing back and returned fire. Now don’t get me wrong, anything that wasn’t a brute or split lip, 12g did just fine. But just fine doesn’t cut it when the entity in-which you’re engaging is 8ft tall and very angry that you just shot him.
The 8g did wonders for us 2 years later though. When the covvies came back my unit was tasked at one point to clear out a sewer system in one of the major cities. The M90 was wonderful in that operation. 8g alongside a flamethrower and an autorifleman was beautiful to watch in action. We’d find a nesting area and burn it down whilst plugging any ingress and egress points for buggers to swarm us. Didn’t do too bad topside either in the alleyways and crosswalks. With short sight lines and shorter engagement distances, the ability to put up a wall of hot tungsten pellets was unmatched.
I was at the School of Trades when this was being made and Nathan has, to the best of my knowledge, neglected to give credit to the instructors that helped him make this and gave him ideas on what to do to make this work. I’d like to give credit particularly to Josh Roy for coming up with the trigger linkage system and the staff at the Colorado School of Trades for being a big part in the creation of this firearm.
Always hear about the hero’s but if it wasn’t for the collective efforts we would have been wiped out by the rings hundreds of years ago.
No way, Josh worked on this? That’s awesome! Is he a green shirt now? He was orange when I was there, and helped me out with a shit ton of stuff.
He did give the school credit but no one person specifically. Watch his video.
I am very seriously looking at choosing this program when i get out of the military soon here. How did you like it? How was job hunting after?
@@FEDsShotMOM Don’t do it. Great people but my word wait until some of the program is fixed. It could be ran so much better.
One hell of a Christmas gift, Ian. I salute you, sir!
The commitment to the bit here is absolutely top notch.
Only a matter of time before we see an episode on the BFG-9000.
And a functional one at that
The guy who made this works at a gun shop around me. Really great guy and very talented. From my understanding, the "blueprints" for this started on an MRE napkin during basic training.
Badass
The fact that Ian said the Remington 870 was still being built in 2500 makes me laugh so hard
I love how much fun he's having with this video. Big fan of both this channel, and Halo