HOW TO CLEAN AND LUBE MOTORCYCLE CHAIN WITH GEAR OIL
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2021
- HOW TO CLEAN AND LUBE MOTORCYCLE CHAIN WITH GEAR OIL
A little bit of elbow grease goes a long way. To prevent your motorcycle chain from living a shorter than desirable lifespan, keeping it fresh and clean is paramount. In this How To video I will show You how to clean and lubricate Your motorcycle chain and sprockets Using simple ingredients such as Kerosine to clean it and Gear Oil purchased at Your local automotive store. Gear Oil I am using in this video is Motormaster 85W140. This maintenance in performed on 2017 Honda Africa Twin CRF1000L I will explain tools that are required to perform this job I will show You a chain cleaning brush that I use. I have used in the past many lubricants but after giving a try to the gear oil I was just stocked how much better it works. By using the designed lubricants I always had some rust showing on the outside of the chain and by switching to the gear oil not so much anymore. It is also so much easier and way less messy to apply the lube to the chain. I really recommend to perform this simple maintenance at least as Your bike manual calls for it to keep your motorcycle chain in top shape to maximize the lifespan of your chain.
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brilliant video and lovely bike.fed up of horrible sticky lubes,ill be going chain oil now on my gsxr.thankyou buddy.
You will not go away from the mess as even oil sometimes spits on the rear rim, but yes it doesn't attract crap on the chain as much
Gear oil is like a miracle for chain... previously iam using motul lube my chain last for 20-25k km..after using gear oil as lube... Now may chain last 30-35k km..using since 2015❤️
nice!
Excellent video. I have to park my bike outside and even with a cover the chain rusts every time it rains, going to take your advice and try this routine out. You explained and showed everything very well.
Thank you glad it helps you can also clean your chain with the same oil even better than karosine
What an amazing demonstration! Thank you so much for teaching us!
I'm glad you found it useful 👌
Been using hear oil for years works really good no issues at all the best and I clean the chain with kerosene the best
I was talking to professional motorcycle mechanic he told me also to clean with gear oil small contain and firmer brush instead of chain brush it is gentler on origins
Thank you for that my brother. Ride safe always ✌️💪
Gear oil is great, but even better if you mix it with something thick like STP or Lucas oil treatment to keep it stuck to the chain. Another great chain lube is chainsaw bar oil. The stickier the lube the better
Thank you very much, Thomas! Good information here!
Awesome 👍
Great video - very helpful and love the detail
Thank you
Most excellent! I just switched to gear oil and have found your video very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Good to hear you found value in it
Great job. Thanks.
Very good video mate and well explained 👍
Excellent, Thank you very much!
Awesome nice that you found some value in it
mate thank you from outback Australia N.T
Motorcycle manufacturers no doubt invest in chain research. My Honda owners motorcycle manual recommends gear oil. A little smelly but works well in looking after the O, Z & X ring seals on modern chains.
Now since you mentioned I have to take a look at what my manual recommends
Nice video!!!! I'll start lubricating my chain with gear oil from today. Greetings from Argentina.
excellent you can use gear also to clean just wipe and reapply
Owner of Royal Enfield Standard Bullet and replaced the chain and sprocket three times in the first three years i have now shifted to using diesel cleaning and then generously applying gear oil on it. It seems to have worked better than the readymade spray available in the market.
I try to clean and apply after every tank filling generally after 400 or 500 kms
That's excellent, one thing I don't recommend diesel for cleaning the chain, it's a petroleum product that is also possibly affecting your chain o-rings. You can use the same gear oils to clean the chain and lube, I don't use kerosene ether even do it's better than diesel. Follow the comments below I have switched this quite some time ago
The easiest way I find to lube is to get a small 1-inch wide paint brush, gently pour the gear oil over the whole side of the brush (start at the top and work my way down), then wait a second or two for it to stabilise into the hairs, flip it over and do the same on the other side of the brush to completely soak it in gear oil... then press gently onto the chain with the bottom of the brush and roll the wheel, then progressively angle the brush or "push" it further into the chain as I continue rolling the wheel, oil should technically never get into the o/z/x rings, but it will help the rollers and all of the areas of the chain that make friction contact with other chain elements or the sprockets.
EDIT. Read before this next paragraph: just read your reply to a comment about using gear-oil to also clean the chain, interesting, I might try that.
As for kerosene use, I recommend everyone watch FortNine's video on this - it does look like kerosene is able to penetrate into the o/z/x rings. Now, maybe it's only the highly refined version of kerosene and also Paraffin that is able to do this, not the cheaply distilled kerosene that has other petrochemicals in it. I still do use kerosene myself, but after watching that video I'm definitely feeling less comfortable doing it, it seems like with the tests he did WD-40 doesn't penetrate into the chain, and WD-40 also has been tested against the rubber used for the rings so it doesn't look like it does any damage to it. WD-40 might actually be a good cheaper choice for chain cleaning in the long-term.
Ryan from Fort Nine is awesome love his videos, thanks for watching my content
i use WD40 to clean EVERYTHING metal i own! it's great stuff...but not a good chain lube as Fortnine demonstrated in their video 😊...i was thinking maybe i could use it to clean and lube my chain but I'm glad i caught that video first. it actually evaporates really fast
Save the chain you can use also same gear oil to clean it I did mention it in comments
What’s the obsession with kerosine. It is diesel with a fractionally low energy quotient.
Wonderful video sir thank you.❤
Super, I'm glad you found it helpful.
I’ve tried em all, gear oil is the best and by far the cheapest! Just wipe it with a rag after lubing 👍
Correct
I use a old toothbrush to put on the gear oil. That way it's easy to brush the oil into the chain like brushing your teeth. As far as kerosene, hear it ok then not ok.
Not to bust anyones bubble here but those who know will tell you that cleaning a chain with Kerosene (parrafin) and re-lubing with gearbox oil , 80w90 or similar has been going on for as long as there have been chain driven bikes.
Most chain manufactuers even recommend gear oil as the preferred lube for their chains.
Forget your sticky waxes and aerosol sprays that hold on to grit and road dirt to wear out your chain faster, Just use oil!
On 'O' ring chains you are just lubricating the 'O' rings themselves to keep them from drying out and perrishing so they retain the grease they are there to retain, this also goes for 'X' and 'Z' ring chains.
if the lube gets gets flung off, so will the dirt it contains. If your chain dries out, relube. If your rear wheel gets covered in oil, you're using too much. you only need to keep the chain lubed, not flooded.
Dont be lazy, use the recommended lube little and often for extended life.
Also you dont need to lube the outside of the chain as that does not come into contact with anything! so there's no point! besides the oil will naturally progress to the outside through the centripedal force acting on the chain naturally so don't waste your oil by putting it where you don't need to!
You have quite a few points here since I made this video I have stopped using karosine as you can read in the comments below also a very good point apply little just enough to keep orings lubbed as the extra will end up on the rear tire as it happened to me few times.
Exactly, oil applied on the inside of the chain will force it's way through to the outside
I really like the idea, great video, will try that on my bike
As we discussed earlier you can't go wrong there are many using this method
This is one of the most viewed videos on my channel for some reason lol
Superb sir 👌 it's very useful sir thks for u r job
Thank You for watching and positive comment also to add since I have made this video I use gear oil to clean the chain as well works really well with a regular paint brush. Wipe clean after re apply oil and chain looks as good as new
Exactly what I've come up with over the years . Cleaning and oiling both . I'm going to try a standard chain next on my klr just to compare. I'm not to happy with the longevity of 3 different brands of Oring chains so far .
hey I'm in Calgary too! just bought my first bike and have been watching all kinds of videos on maintenance and this is am excellent video on chains! i actually bought a can of that Motul chain lube but then i heard that it might not be so good, so I'm going to go with heavy gear oil!
Works like a charm but if you put too much you will get mess on the rear wheel
Thank you for a very instructive video. I have only tried Chain Lube spray but will be trying gear oil on my AT. Thinking of trying Diesel instead of Kerosene.
That's may be also good idea with diesel I'm not sure how safe it would be for orings as I don't know how diesel reacts to rubber longterm Kersosine has been tested and its quite safe to my knowledge not expensive as well. I have been using always Kersosine. Even Ryan from FortNine channel i think he mentioned it in one of his videos. Thank you for witchin. Let me know how diesel cleans the gunk of the chain I'm curious myself.
Why? Kerosene is proven and super cheap. It does not dry out o rings and is recommended by manufacturers.It also dries well. Whats the benefit with diesel?
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I have a few reasons. The mane one is that i don't want to carry Kerosene when i am travelling. I can always find a small amount of diesel to get me by. If i was only doing day trips i would probably buy some and put on the shelf. Truth is kerosene is also called #1 diesel fuel
@@glegend4379 Diesel tend to damage rubber hence will damage and degrade the O rings. Dont use it.
@@GrimYak I add my voice to yours, kerosene has no oil in it so it tends to dry seals, on the other hand diesel has quit some oil in it so it won’t dry them..
Thanks for the ace video. Do you think it has to be synthetic gear oil…? You can get 120 weight but it’s mineral, wonder if it would stay on the chain longer…?
It doesn't have to be synthetic oil I use just a regular oil as long as it's thick. You can also use same oil to clean the chain
Hey, love the video! Um, I was wondering...What type of kerosene? Clear or heating kerosene (for lamps, stoves) or it doesnt matter? I wanna start cleaning with kerosene and lube with gear oil but I dont rly know, so Im making sure...Another thing, I got Motul gear oil SAE 75w90 technosynthese, Is that ok to lube the motorcycle chain with ? If someone could help! Thanks.
If you follow the comments below video I have stopped using kerosene to clean the chain as actually same gear oi does great job to clean as well as lub. I was using clear kerosene. The ticker gear oil you find the better as it will make less mess, doesn't have to be motorcycle oil either any gear oil will do.
I emailed chain maker DID about using kerosene. I believe that those who manufacture the product have more engineering knowledge about the product than we do about their product so follow their advice. I assume most chain manufacturers are pretty similar in their technologies. Here is DID's reply :
"Once upon a time, using kerosene as a cleaning agent was promoted on our chain boxes. Over the last few years we have slowly upgraded the material composition of our sealed chains and no longer promote the use of kerosene as a cleaning agent as it could have a negative effect on the seals performance after prolonged or continued exposure.
Our seals are a nitrile rubber (NBR) that balances between being chemically resistant and flexible. The more flexible, the less resistant to harsh chemicals and vice versa.
As far as brands go, I like to recommend Bel-Ray and Maxima with Motul and Motorex second.""
If you follow the comments below I also went away from Karosine and I use same oil that I lube the chain to clean it
@@AdventureTravelandScuba That's a wise move. But, I think a better move is to simply remove the video because not everyone reads all of the comments on every video they watch and the less discerning among us might just use kerosene to clean their chains. After all, that is the message presented in the video.
Thanks. I'll start using kerosene and chainsaw oil moving forward. Seems to be cheaper than buying all these more expensive bike specific products.
You can use even gear oil to clean chain even better than kerosene. I started doing this recently and it works with soft small pait brush clean the chain dry with cloth and relube chain is shining
@@AdventureTravelandScuba you use gear oil to clean the chain?? Never heard of such a thing.
I wonder how many of You are lubricating your chain this way? Smash that like button if that's your preferred way. It is very effective You will be surprised how well it works.
I see in the comments that you can also use the gear oil 85w140 to clean the chain as well as lubed it?
That's correct since the video was posted I use now same oil or any other oil the thicker the better. Thicker is better as it will be less mess dripping. My friend is a motorcycle mechanic those are tips from him.
@@AdventureTravelandScuba thank you, awesome tips, will definitely try it out!
How do you clean the contaminated shop rags? I've seen some methods for the cleaning, but then I come to another question: how do you dispose of the wastewater from cleaning? If the rag is contaminated with kerosene or gear oil, then surely the water you use to clean the rag will contain those chemicals, plus more for the cleaning. You cannot simply pour it down the drain, right? But I'm guessing that is what people do. Maybe you can save the water in a container and then take it to a household hazardous waste facility? Seems like a lot of work, plus you would potentially have a lot of waste water to deal with over time. Is there an easier way?
Good Question, I don't clean them just as they get bad I replace them I buy them at dollar store I use for rags shirts they they go to garbage kerosine mostly evaporates anyways , Used oil goes to recycling shop my neighbour takes it as he is a mechanic at Toyota and he recycles it there for me
@@AdventureTravelandScuba can diesel work as well as kerosene?
No diesel is Petro based it will damage the o-rings I stopped even using karosine if you look down the comments gear oil and brush does also excellent cleaning job just wipe the excess on the chain afterwards really small amount of gear oil and you are riding again
Put gear oil using soft tooth brush. 😃👍
@notexpatjoe I use paint brush now
Can i use diesel instead of kerosene for cleaning the chain
I wouldn't recommend diesel but ever since I made the video I have been using same gear oil that I lube the chain with just regular small paint brush same brush that you would use to trimming before painting the walls it works great, wipe and reapply the new oil
@@AdventureTravelandScuba is it ok to use sae90 gear oil??
@@mkk94 any gear oil is good the thicker the better
I noticed after cleaning your chain with kerosene you did not ri se the chain with water. I've been cleaning my chain with kerosene but then rinsing my chain with water. Is it ok to rinse with water after cleaning or is it better to not rinse with water?
Absolutely stay away from watter clean with kerosene and wipe dry then lube water and steel does not like each other 😉
@@AdventureTravelandScuba thanks, bought me some gear oil today and will clean my chain and use zero water!
It doesn't have to be same gear oil as long as it's a thicker oil you you find even thicker it will work also very well
I get splashes on my rear tire whenever i put gear oil. Am i putting too much?
most likely and make sure you have a thickest gear oil you can find just put the gear oil on the link joint not center where the roller is
@@AdventureTravelandScuba ok will try to use the 140 again. I have been using 90 for quite some time
@@jowanyoung7613It also depends if you are going riding right after lubbing I usually don't I just let it soke 1-2 hours and then You can give it a gentle wipe as the oil will penetrate by then between the links gentlevqipe juat to pick upbthe excess oil that's dropping down
@@AdventureTravelandScuba i always do it after i wash motorcycle and let it be overnight.
I always get some on my center stand but not too much on the rear rim, maybe your chain is flapping too much too loose, I also don't pay as much attention to it anymore as I go off road to often 😂 and the bike looks like crap after it was cleaned after last ride. I ride it hard and I take care of it right after that or next day so it is usually clean whenbitbis parked in the garage or when I ride tarmac lol
I also experience rust from the lubricant brand.. that is why I shift also to gear oil and for me it is the best of all lubricant for chain.. the only problem is the excess oil after using my motorcycle..
Totally agree if you go riding right away after lub, I usually leave it overnight to drip, another thing since I made the video I now apply the lub with paint brush you get in between all crevisies of chain with less oil left on the chain dripping
been a while.
been a while? what do you mean?
@@AdventureTravelandScuba since I saw you post
@@RoadFreeLife I post every week regularly
I just use a lighter to burn off the kerosene
And orings in the chain 😁
Never never use kerosene it will damage the sealant of chain
Kersone will not damage your o-rings in the chain you are misinformed, but if you look down in the comments I have stopped using it and use same gear oil to clean the chain as lube it works really well 🙂
Myth.
Really….so ppl that do 30k-40k kms on a chain cleaned only with kerosene are doing it wrong?
Ive had 20 motorcycles in 45 years with plenty of mechanical experience in motorcycle and auto, and i can say with out any reservation, oil eventually damages any rubber parts in comes in contact with, even o rings on chains, although there is a few oil resistant rubbers. Oil on chains always escapes from a chain regardless of staying ability and for the sake of saving a few dollars, using cheap or especially, used carbon saturated oil, can cause additional damage to a bike over time. Sorry to go against everyone oily ideas, but because i love all my bikes, i never use any oils on a chain that are not compatible with rubber. Silicon spray does not damage rubber for example, and although less durable, probably impracticable & more expensive, the long term result is no rubber damage.
Fake Info Honda Say to use Gear oil
In the Owners Book
Weird... How my Oil does not damage my engine seals....but does the chain.... Which is the exact same material.... Yeah ...
lol what? Away and boil yer heed. That is utter pish.
Tell that to ppl that uses oil for years and do 25-30k kms on a chain. You probably had 20 motorcycles in your garage and admired them in the morning on your way to the bus station.
Lol 80w-90 gear oil is what recommended by all manufacturer for chain lubrication for decades and has been tested many times to be the best choice for lubing up chain due to its anti wear protection besides its tendency to splash after application if you put a bit too much. If seal destruction is the case then all of my motorcycle o ring and tires would be all destroyed by now but yet it’s still there, you’re talking like you never read owner manual before and your claims to be a 40 years owner is questionable
Lol, but you've heard of x-rings, right?
Yes it's x Ring chain, gear oil will not harm it
Not a single chain manufacturer recommends kerosene and most specifically advise against using it. Kerosene will damage the o or x-rings.
From the RK website...
"RK Chain recommends cleaning a sealed chain with only a mineral-based O ring safe chain cleaner. Do not use kerosene, mineral spirits, diesel fuel, brake cleaner, motor oil, or any caustic chemicals because that can damage the seals."
From the DID website...
"D.I.D does not recommend maintaining any drive chain with kerosene.
Cleaning a sealed chain with kerosene would cause deformation of the seal ring and can oftentimes lead to rusting of a chain due to the removal of grease on the chain’s surface, which increases the risk of chain corruption and chain failure. It is highly likely that use of kerosene on a sealed drive chain will drastically decrease the chain's performance."
I was using Karosine for many years with no issues but if you follow my comments below I have stopped it anyway and now I use the same gear oil that I lube the chain
Its just a business problem, not an Oring problem. The costs of dedicated cleaners and lubes is outrageous and if everyone would use kerosene and gear oil, there would be a lot of money to be lost.
@@AlexPtc89 or it could be they realize their product works better than kerosene, and greatly improves the life of the chain, and therefore they can charge a high price.
Wrong!
Mix axle grease with gas.
Put chain in gas mix.
Remove and let gas evaporate.
Job done
Sorry You are wrong gas is not good for the o'rings in Your chain it will damage them quite fast go to any chain manufacture web site and most of them will confirm that.
great job