IMO I disagree. Black Noir's death made me feel more than Becca's. All of that soldier boy build up, not knowing who he was at all or anything about his character until those seasons. Seeing him act human as he ran away from Vought, showing some character. And all of that just to be killed by Homelander, that had more of an emotional impact. Old with actual character and not humor >>>
Hey man I agree with some of the stuff you’re saying if I wanted to enjoy the boys as a story focused show sure it was some good writing. But with that being said I saw others characters writing enough to keep me intrigued and interested in the whole story as a whole while also having the other aspects of comedy and tension
Same, it felt a punch in the gut when Noir died. I remember my jaw dropping, I was in pure shock. Then felt so much anger and sadness, as this guy we were just getting to know died in front of us. With Becca, I saw it coming. Despite a whole season with her, I didn't care half as much when she died. Nothing against her, but I liked Noir far more
him being isolated made it all the more sad. With becca, one everyone knew it would happen eventually, and two her memory and will lives on through other characters in the series. Black Noirs death was so sad because after 3 seasons of having no idea what this guys deal is, we learn about his tragic and brutal story and get to see the world through his eyes. His death is sudden and irrational, and no one knows what was going through his head except us.
I love new black noir, but as you said, he wouldnt be the same without the old one, so i dont think he is better, just different. Also i think he is probably a clone of the old noir. Not just a rando.
@@rhysjeffery3401 a clone? Nigga wut 💀how would that make any sense? So they got a clone walking around just ready to be called in to play noir? Why not any of the previous seven members? We haven’t even seen them do anything like cloning, that’s an assumption you’ve made
@@rhysjeffery3401but do you not know how long it would take to make a whole clone of a hero who didn’t even talk and show his face and had basic supe powers? I think his just a normal godolkin student
There weren’t “so many characters stronger than Black Noir”. The only two characters that were physically stronger than him were Homelander and Soldier boy. He has defeated Queen Maeve, Kimiko, Starlight (multiple times), and he even was essentially a one man army when he went into the Middle East to fight those super terrorists. I would even go as far as to say he was the second strongest in The Seven under Homelander, and second to Kimiko, he had the best regeneration. The only reason he was killed with one fist by Homelander was because this moment was used to further the plot and end off his story. Furthermore, since he would approximately be in his 60s when he was in the show, he most likely doesn’t age like Soldier Boy considering he was still in tip top shape in contrast to aging characters like Homelander noticing their deterioration.
Queen Maeve is stronger than nour she got him in a chokehold and he couldn’t escape. Then A train is the 4th strongest. Kimiko gave a good fight to noir while a train beat her in seconds. He pulls trains as a workout in season 1. Black noir is tougher but a train both faster and stronger. And black noir is still strong enough to casually throw people, I’m not saying he is weak
The new noir isn't better because they're two completely different characters that wear the same suit. Old Noir was complex, he didnt speak cause of his trauma, he was the oldest member of the seven and knew shit everyone else didnt, he feared Homelander cause of what his dad (soldier boy) did to him and he was just completely fucked up mentally
exposition doesn’t automatically mean i have to care more about the old noir. also them being 2 separate people doesn’t matter bc they share the same mantle dude
knowing why black noir was quiet doesn’t really mean you can’t like him bc he was quiet. i think him basically saying how he thinks this noir with a personality, more reactive, more human is a better noir is pretty sound. sure old noir was cool but this one’s cooler
The new Black Noir is cool but I liked the previous more and it's fucking awful how the show decided to get rid of him in season 3. He didn't even meet with Soldier Boy, that was so ass.
@@broggy52 funny thing is apparently the actor who played black noir is the same guy but is talking ☠️ so he's playing the same character but also being a different character at the same time
@@blueblazedemon yerp. Im 99.999% sure I'm wrong, but I just like to think it. Noir was kind of a sweetheart yet ruthless at the same time, i don't want him gone lol
I like that this one is more involved with everything instead of just behind the scenes can’t wait for the noir vs butcher fight. Hoping it comes out this week
What I love about this new Black Noir is that he is a character that’s representative of the audience, the viewer, reacting and commenting on everything that is out of place like we would after witnessing such atrocities. Great direction for the character. Like if we’re in the Universe of the Boys or even be working on the set of the boys most of us would behave exactly like new Noir.
This might be the greatest L take in the history of this show’s fans. Like, Noir was maybe the most universally loved and cherished character in the cast
I think the old one is better because The whole thing with him not talking was part part of his persona and backstory, which made sense and that’s why I like that character
Honestly ya when I first saw black noir didn’t talk I thought it was because he would of sounded like home lander and he was a clone like comics but when I saw he was a normal dude that didn’t talk didn’t really care for it
So if the new noir is the same actor that means homelander can see he's the same guy he killed technically right.. I'm wondering if maybe they cloned noir somehow. If not I guess they'd just never unmask him and never mention it and play like he's a completely different person. But I feel like they should've just casted a different actor if they were gonna go with the second route. It would make sense that he was a clone because noir was a clone in the comics.
Bro Homelander and Noir are the best part of The Boys… No wonder this only has 178 views in 8 hrs… Edit: You want him to be a comedy character??????? Why? Is your favorite Star Wars character Jar Jar?????!!!!!!!
But since he’s talking so much and doesn’t have a origin and it’s just a random guy who got picked up off the street with a random powers it’s just not the same
homelander couldve one shot maeve tbh if she left her guard down like noir he was always there go to supe before homelander he is arguably as strong as maeve since the last time they fought they both got the jump on each other they also showed in his lil cartoon flashback he was able to hurt solider boy even a bit is more than most but tbf its a dream sequence kinda
I have to disagree with you about this. Black noir was kind of a subversion from superheroes in general. The no powers, the no killing rule. A rogues gallery that was less based in super power villainy and more petty crime and mental illness. The seven deal with all these greater feats and nior was there to deal with the street crime. He felt a lot more grounded and held more compassion over his rogues than homelander or a train.
Man this video is horrible and your opinion of old Black Noir is wrong and way off. OG Black Noir is the best and his death was very sad given his backstory and everything he went through.
There was something sadly sweet about Black Noir. Going from a Supe with big dreams to being injured and ended up just being Vought's Muscle.
What’s even sadder is we never get to see Noir face his fears and fight Soldier Boy
Bro shouldn’t of disrespected the goat solider boy smh
@@Jadensdivine Was always gonna be an uphill battle.
@@hillwoop9101i-...never thought about that. Holy shit that would have been way better than queen meave defeating him.
@@Jadensdivine meat rider
Nah you’re bugging. We all fckn love noir, nobody is matching his aura. Bro was a mysterious ass ninja with a sad backstory. L take
Agreed
"his aura"
@@MoeJama420 am i wrong?
@@deadacc637yes
@@alatus_knight go ahead, explain how
Never let this man cook again
IMO I disagree. Black Noir's death made me feel more than Becca's. All of that soldier boy build up, not knowing who he was at all or anything about his character until those seasons. Seeing him act human as he ran away from Vought, showing some character. And all of that just to be killed by Homelander, that had more of an emotional impact. Old with actual character and not humor >>>
Hey man I agree with some of the stuff you’re saying if I wanted to enjoy the boys as a story focused show sure it was some good writing. But with that being said I saw others characters writing enough to keep me intrigued and interested in the whole story as a whole while also having the other aspects of comedy and tension
Obviously black noir would hurt more than Becca 💀
Same, it felt a punch in the gut when Noir died. I remember my jaw dropping, I was in pure shock. Then felt so much anger and sadness, as this guy we were just getting to know died in front of us. With Becca, I saw it coming. Despite a whole season with her, I didn't care half as much when she died. Nothing against her, but I liked Noir far more
him being isolated made it all the more sad. With becca, one everyone knew it would happen eventually, and two her memory and will lives on through other characters in the series. Black Noirs death was so sad because after 3 seasons of having no idea what this guys deal is, we learn about his tragic and brutal story and get to see the world through his eyes. His death is sudden and irrational, and no one knows what was going through his head except us.
I cant believe this guy said Beccas death was sadder than Black Noirs 😂 💀
New Black Noir is fucking hilarious.
He's kinda like deadpool
@@noahcrowl2302without the madness and fourth wall breaking jokes
@@nexrex3042 Thank fuck for that, I hate 4th wall humor.
@@notjimmy6486 my main complaint towards those is that they became far too common and most are straight up hollow
Black Noir 1 was like the most charming and one of the most tragic parts of the show
I love new black noir, but as you said, he wouldnt be the same without the old one, so i dont think he is better, just different. Also i think he is probably a clone of the old noir. Not just a rando.
In the show the new black noir says he’s an actor and can’t get into the character of noir because everyone tells him to stop talking
@StoogesTheTwo Yea he also clearly has powers similar to old noir. Clones don't always have the same experiences and lives.
@@rhysjeffery3401 a clone? Nigga wut 💀how would that make any sense? So they got a clone walking around just ready to be called in to play noir? Why not any of the previous seven members? We haven’t even seen them do anything like cloning, that’s an assumption you’ve made
@@rhysjeffery3401but do you not know how long it would take to make a whole clone of a hero who didn’t even talk and show his face and had basic supe powers? I think his just a normal godolkin student
@@tsuki4261 It would probably have taken since like right after he got fucked up by soldier boy.
Tbh I disagree.
No one cares.
Yet bro “cared” enough to reply.💀💀💀
@@darkclaw1462no one cares
@@darkclaw1462 no one cares
I mean he's funny , a comic relief
There weren’t “so many characters stronger than Black Noir”. The only two characters that were physically stronger than him were Homelander and Soldier boy. He has defeated Queen Maeve, Kimiko, Starlight (multiple times), and he even was essentially a one man army when he went into the Middle East to fight those super terrorists. I would even go as far as to say he was the second strongest in The Seven under Homelander, and second to Kimiko, he had the best regeneration. The only reason he was killed with one fist by Homelander was because this moment was used to further the plot and end off his story. Furthermore, since he would approximately be in his 60s when he was in the show, he most likely doesn’t age like Soldier Boy considering he was still in tip top shape in contrast to aging characters like Homelander noticing their deterioration.
Queen maeve as well is stronger and maybe temp v butcher.
When did he defeat queen Maeve? When did he fight starlight again he only fought her once.
Queen Maeve is stronger than nour she got him in a chokehold and he couldn’t escape. Then A train is the 4th strongest. Kimiko gave a good fight to noir while a train beat her in seconds. He pulls trains as a workout in season 1. Black noir is tougher but a train both faster and stronger. And black noir is still strong enough to casually throw people, I’m not saying he is weak
Queen maeve would one shot noir lmao
He didnt defeat Maeve. Also Maeve is considered to be stronger than Noir
The new noir isn't better because they're two completely different characters that wear the same suit.
Old Noir was complex, he didnt speak cause of his trauma, he was the oldest member of the seven and knew shit everyone else didnt, he feared Homelander cause of what his dad (soldier boy) did to him and he was just completely fucked up mentally
exposition doesn’t automatically mean i have to care more about the old noir. also them being 2 separate people doesn’t matter bc they share the same mantle dude
@@universatechus it quite literally does matter that they are two different people....
@@universatechusnerd
Nothing implies Black Noir was scared of Homelander. He was scared of Soldier Boy
@@Tribrid-zv3nq then you weren't paying attention
Dude did not understand noir at all damn
knowing why black noir was quiet doesn’t really mean you can’t like him bc he was quiet. i think him basically saying how he thinks this noir with a personality, more reactive, more human is a better noir is pretty sound. sure old noir was cool but this one’s cooler
@@universatechus valid to like new noir more but bro seems to have just missed the point entirely of the original
@@universatechusnerd
@@shabeopro tip; insults don’t add to your point. they just takeaway from how you as a person look
@@universatechusI don’t like the new one he’s not funny
Nah . Everytime noir is on screen now, he kinda sounds like the deep and I’m “ dude shut up , you don’t talk”.
XD
The new Black Noir is cool but I liked the previous more and it's fucking awful how the show decided to get rid of him in season 3. He didn't even meet with Soldier Boy, that was so ass.
It's so fresh seeing opinions like these regardless of like dislike ratio
My headcanon is that he's a clone of himself, now able to talk and doesn't have most memories
They already said in a tweet there not doing that clone thing
@@blueblazedemon ye, not of homelander. I meant a clone of the old black noir
@@broggy52 funny thing is apparently the actor who played black noir is the same guy but is talking ☠️ so he's playing the same character but also being a different character at the same time
@@blueblazedemon yerp. Im 99.999% sure I'm wrong, but I just like to think it. Noir was kind of a sweetheart yet ruthless at the same time, i don't want him gone lol
@@broggy52 I think it's a random actor with the same powers of black noir
Zenopixel: Why The New Black Noir Is BETTER Than The Old One?
Me: Let me guess, comedy relief?
I like that this one is more involved with everything instead of just behind the scenes can’t wait for the noir vs butcher fight. Hoping it comes out this week
“We’re making way for a new one, and he can fly”
What I love about this new Black Noir is that he is a character that’s representative of the audience, the viewer, reacting and commenting on everything that is out of place like we would after witnessing such atrocities. Great direction for the character. Like if we’re in the Universe of the Boys or even be working on the set of the boys most of us would behave exactly like new Noir.
Black noir was the last death I actually felt sad about besides stormfront.
Noir I might technically be a better character but Noir II is more enjoyable.
Agreed s4 black noir is hilarious and more entertaining 😂
I agree the other one was written better but this one is funnier.
0:55 well it not that he chose not to talk solider boy did lobotomies him with a car bonnet and his shield
I miss Black Noir so much, he’ll always be my favourite character even if he is dead
hes said no words but was the most expressive we knew when he was sad and when he was angry we loved him
He was a horrible person
This might be the greatest L take in the history of this show’s fans. Like, Noir was maybe the most universally loved and cherished character in the cast
I think the old one is better because The whole thing with him not talking was part part of his persona and backstory, which made sense and that’s why I like that character
Homelander doesn’t let randoms into the 7
Homelander:Is Noir Sleeping?🤨
Firecracker:Mhmmm😐
New Black Noir:Oh shit sorry I'm Narcoleptic 😃💀
I love how with the new Noir, all they did is take the same actor and finally give him lines after 3 seasons of silence.
I find it funny how vought got lucky and just found a supe who coincidentally has the same powers and presumably the same strength as the old noir.
The old one had depth, the new one is just hilarious.
New one reminds me of vigelante from that john cena tv series
Honestly ya when I first saw black noir didn’t talk I thought it was because he would of sounded like home lander and he was a clone like comics but when I saw he was a normal dude that didn’t talk didn’t really care for it
I think the quietness gives him character and he one of my fav
I wonder if there gonna reveal this season who the new noir actually is
new black noir is The DEEP 2.0
another clown in the seven
So if the new noir is the same actor that means homelander can see he's the same guy he killed technically right.. I'm wondering if maybe they cloned noir somehow. If not I guess they'd just never unmask him and never mention it and play like he's a completely different person. But I feel like they should've just casted a different actor if they were gonna go with the second route. It would make sense that he was a clone because noir was a clone in the comics.
To say he Carried the first 3 episodes is crazy. MM was carrying along with Hughie
I prefer the old Noir, new Noir sucks! Old Noir was a master assassin and master tactician!
bro old black noir didn’t have to speak to be funny 😂 the new one is still good but we will see
Nerd detected opinion rejected
facts what the fuck was dude on about 😂😂😂
Bro Homelander and Noir are the best part of The Boys… No wonder this only has 178 views in 8 hrs…
Edit: You want him to be a comedy character??????? Why? Is your favorite Star Wars character Jar Jar?????!!!!!!!
Hate to break it to you, but Black Noir was always destined to mostly for comic relief. You're an idiot mate lol.
I disagree
bro is so funny for NO reason LMFAO
"I did things."
Both are amazing
Holy shit zenopixel post?????
i wish the old black noir survived
S4 Noir is okay so far. The real Black Noir stole the show everytime we saw him
But since he’s talking so much and doesn’t have a origin and it’s just a random guy who got picked up off the street with a random powers it’s just not the same
The "New Black Noir" isnt black noir, thats a whole different character. so its stupid to try to compare them
now he is more like Deadpool 😂😂
Black Noir is Sam fr, the voices aresimilar, and so are their powers.
no bro, new noir is in one room with Sam facepalm S4x5
homelander couldve one shot maeve tbh if she left her guard down like noir he was always there go to supe before homelander he is arguably as strong as maeve since the last time they fought they both got the jump on each other they also showed in his lil cartoon flashback he was able to hurt solider boy even a bit is more than most but tbf its a dream sequence kinda
I like both versions i just hope they don't turn him into a Deadpool clown
Well I disagree.
And he's not a random ped off the street. He said he's a God U graduate that's why he's so goofy.
Do my ears deseav me
I agree I started laughing when dude started talking
I have to disagree with you about this. Black noir was kind of a subversion from superheroes in general. The no powers, the no killing rule. A rogues gallery that was less based in super power villainy and more petty crime and mental illness. The seven deal with all these greater feats and nior was there to deal with the street crime. He felt a lot more grounded and held more compassion over his rogues than homelander or a train.
Old Black Noir > New Black Noir
2:02 💀💀💀
No he not just some dude off the street he is a clone!
This criticism is very shallow. Kudos to you for putting out your opinion though.
Horrible take
Man this video is horrible and your opinion of old Black Noir is wrong and way off. OG Black Noir is the best and his death was very sad given his backstory and everything he went through.
I disagree.
I agree
i hope he takes the mask off and its just a clone of black noir with fake memories
The new Black Noir's now my favorite The Boys character. He's so fucking funny, man. Kind of like a tamer Deadpool.
140 comments and not even one was positive
Not even gonna watch the vid I just know your wrong bye
Miss
L take
the new noir is good bc the old one excist
Comics black noir is way better
Disagreed.
IMO completly L take
4sure
your why the viewers opinon is disreguarded lol. but in all seriouseness i get what your saying. but honestly i miss the old
Terrible opinion. New Noir is nothing but a joke.
Bruh your just wrong😐
i agree old black noir was boring defo the most overrated character in the boys
Terrible take
Nerd
I’d be offended by this comment if your profile picture was anything but a stale corny dead meme that fell off 3 years ago 💀
@@Zenopixel7"🤓"
The old one was WAYYY BETTER!